First completed sections of HS2’s Curzon Street Station viaduct

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  • HS2 have completed the first sections of the iconic viaduct that will bring high speed trains into Birmingham’s new Curzon Street Station.
    It marks the next step on the programme to build a series of viaducts to carry the railway through Birmingham’s industrial heartland and into the city centre.
    The completed six metre-high section of viaducts is where the structure widen from a single deck to four separate decks, spanning 65 metres at the widest point, to carry the tracks to the Curzon Street Station platforms.
    Listen to Stefan as he explains how these structures were built.
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:11 What is the purpose of the viaduct?
    0:29 Our last update
    0:40 Ramping up construction on site
    1:03 Designing the viaduct
    1:47 Preparing the site
    2:53 Working with Mace Dragados
    3:18 How much concrete has been poured?
    3:35 Adding the parapets
    3:56 Moving to the top of the deck
    4:10 Constructing the deck section
    5:31 What happens next?
    6:05 Closing comments
    6:21 Let us know your thoughts!
    6:28 Outro
    #HS2 #Construction #birmingham #update
    If you have a question about HS2 or our works, please contact our HS2 Helpdesk team on 08081 434 434 or email hs2enquiries@hs2.org.uk.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 132

  • @TheRailwayDrone
    @TheRailwayDrone 13 днів тому +113

    You can love or hate HS2, but there is no denying how fascinating the construction process has been. Excellent works.

  • @Samuel_J1
    @Samuel_J1 13 днів тому +56

    The permanent structure looks fantastic. I can't wait to see the station come out of the ground - that'll be a really significant moment to see!

  • @WD9999
    @WD9999 13 днів тому +62

    A great achievement by everyone involved, having trained all these young people it’s a shame to think after HS2 is complete most will have to take their experience to other countries to continue their careers, I wish the UK could be more forward thinking and find them work here where they learned their trade

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 13 днів тому +8

      If Labour get into power hopefully some of them will be able to work on Bakerloo line or some of the Northern Rail improvement works or even Crossrail 2.

    • @WD9999
      @WD9999 13 днів тому +6

      @@DavidKnowles0shame it requires us having a labour government

    • @WD9999
      @WD9999 13 днів тому +7

      I’m not convinced they have the ability to organise anything successfully

    • @WD9999
      @WD9999 13 днів тому

      Guess labour could squeeze the taxpayer, I think they might lose the election with the news of re nationalisation

    • @janeknight3597
      @janeknight3597 13 днів тому +24

      Crossrail 2 is needed, but the priority should be the bits of HS2 the short sighted muppets cancelled.

  • @m.e.345
    @m.e.345 13 днів тому +17

    High-speed rail is definitely the future of public transportation and it is good to see UK citizens working together.

    • @jakehowie442
      @jakehowie442 7 днів тому +3

      It’s definitely not! HS2 line is pretty useless and doesn’t serve even 1/10th of the population. Very few people want to travel to Birmingham especially from London…
      More people want to go to Manchester and Liverpool, even Leeds, as well as North to South from these cities

    • @1346crecy
      @1346crecy 7 годин тому

      @@jakehowie442 So where do we start then? Your opinion on where from and to?

  • @52robbo
    @52robbo 11 днів тому +13

    So incredibly short sighted by Sunak and his ‘government’; but I’m quite sure a high speed route will eventually get completed right through to Glasgow and Edinburgh and including all the great northern cities of Britain. Just a pity it will end up costing more. But all great infrastructure projects always run over cost projections, it’s in the nature of such works. Well done on the job so far.

    • @1346crecy
      @1346crecy 7 годин тому

      I agree I think another government regardless of it's political hue will pick this up and push it right the way up the country. It has to start somewhere right. With regard cost, I work in construction and material costs have pretty much sky rocketed since COVID. Also, unfortunately, The Treasury is staffed mostly with incompetents who are unsackable....In my opinion

  • @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
    @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive 13 днів тому +24

    Thank you to all involved. God bless 🙏🏾

  • @proskar3146
    @proskar3146 14 днів тому +19

    Good work!

  • @chrise2329
    @chrise2329 4 дні тому

    Fascinated to see the changes whenever I go past.

  • @1346crecy
    @1346crecy 7 годин тому

    Love it! Well done to all!

  • @davidelsemeader6587
    @davidelsemeader6587 13 днів тому +16

    Brillaint! Makes me feel proud to be British! Well done HS".

  • @shaunwest3612
    @shaunwest3612 13 днів тому +12

    Amazing achievement, well done 👍

  • @garethelias6006
    @garethelias6006 13 днів тому

    Good progress! Keep the updates coming!

  • @msteele4009
    @msteele4009 13 днів тому +8

    Absolutely fabulous work......

  • @user-ps2zr7jp6p
    @user-ps2zr7jp6p 13 днів тому +1

    Great work, well done!

  • @TheFrogfather1
    @TheFrogfather1 10 днів тому

    The sheer scale of the project, even in its truncated form, is very impressive. I hope I'm still alive when it opens.

  • @oscarsands1237
    @oscarsands1237 13 днів тому +17

    can't wait to see what the grafted artists will do when it's done

  • @Kodakcompactdisc
    @Kodakcompactdisc 8 днів тому

    I just realized I’m watching this parked up next to an old brick built bridge from the 1860’s with just the piers left standing. Fascinating.

  • @timmarsh4029
    @timmarsh4029 13 днів тому +1

    Amazing!

  • @thunderdemonlover
    @thunderdemonlover 13 днів тому +7

    Thank You.

  • @user-gj7ew2sm5u
    @user-gj7ew2sm5u 13 днів тому +5

    Ive anyone is wondering about the grave yard and the bodies dug up to make way for this, apparently they will be reburied at Witton cemetery.

  • @brandywell44
    @brandywell44 13 днів тому +4

    Have animation videos been made showing the completed rail network for all sections. I would Particularly like to see how the junction at Water Orton and the Attleborough Lane tunnels will look with trains running.

  • @thisisbob1001
    @thisisbob1001 13 днів тому +1

    Blends in lovely

  • @tomlynch6176
    @tomlynch6176 13 днів тому +4

    Looks amazing

  • @peteregan3862
    @peteregan3862 11 днів тому +1

    Happy to comment. Terminating railway stations in city centres are very inefficient, thus a huge waste of money. Like in the EU, the island of Great Britain needs a rail GRID which includes a loop around the coast. 'Grid' being a literal term. The grid will respond to population density, thus more grid lines in cities.
    With current rail automation systems in use in the world, the entire UK rail network can be automated (no drivers), trains sized to demand, and services operated when demanded with minimum service frequencies. There should be a price signal to peak demand.

  • @LILC63
    @LILC63 5 днів тому

    I really like the HS2 project, it’s annoying that basically half of it has been cancelled.

  • @jamesmcdonnell5617
    @jamesmcdonnell5617 9 днів тому +3

    This chap Stefan Skrakowski (sp?; Ap.) should be made the 'permanent' official spokesman for HS2 in future videos on updating the general public on completed, future or in-process construction works underway currently. He is articulate, knowledgeable and easy to listen to.

    • @ianjoyce5120
      @ianjoyce5120 8 днів тому

      You should check out Jack from Bam Nuttall on the Coast Cams (UA-cam) documentation of the Dawlish Sea Wall Upgrade project. Jack (and Network Rail et al.) show how community engagement should be done. Give a vidographer access to an expert who can explain in laymans terms what is happening and everyone is happy.

  • @nicholashortonjustice4rebe378
    @nicholashortonjustice4rebe378 7 днів тому

    The Great Central Railway is Gonna use Pre-Fabricated Concrete Decks for their Bridging the Gap Project

  • @RitaFarrow
    @RitaFarrow 13 днів тому +1

    could i ask as to what you have now in length and what will be the over all length,of the platforms thanking you,great content

  • @johnson_street_IEMD
    @johnson_street_IEMD 10 днів тому

    I saw the piers on the way to Making Tracks Four... on the WCML .. Great work guys ... is there provision for future northbound hs2 in these pathways .. ?

  • @cwmbc
    @cwmbc 13 днів тому +4

    It great to see the station being built. Just a pity it could not of been a through station instead of a dead end. Would of made train movement far easier....and lost less time.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 13 днів тому

      Train movements will be easy due to the Delta Junction at Water Orton which will allow trains from Birmingham Curzon Street to go south to London and North to Manchester and the North but will also allow trains from London to Manchester to by pass Birmingham. A through station would of been too time consuming, costly and problomatic with in the City Centre and Birmingham New Street has not the capacity for HS2 services plus other services hence the reason to build a new station for HS2 services

    • @johnevans2044
      @johnevans2044 12 днів тому +4

      Unlike many UK cities that are centred on river valleys, Birmingham city centre, where New Street station is located, is on a hill. Curzon Street is actually the original terminus of the London and Birmingham railway, and the railway stopped there because the cost of actually putting the terminus in the city centre was considered at the time (1838) to be too great for the company to bear. Only later was the railway extended to the city centre through a costly tunnel, and the station had to be built in a deep, restricted width cutting.
      When other railway lines reached Birmingham, they too had to approach New Street station via expensive tunnels. The constricted approaches to New Street station and the restrictions on the size of the station have caused problems ever since. It's just not economically or environmentally viable to expand New Street station to accommodate HS2. Also the existing line northwest from there, via Wolverhampton to Stafford (where it joins the Trent Valley diversionary line) goes through 20 miles of urban area, and once again, the environmental disruption of widening that route to accommodate HS2, and the cost of doing so, would be far more than that of the route now being built to the east of Birmingham.
      The new Curzon Street station and approaches to it are sited on old railway marshalling yards and abandoned former industrial areas, so the build cost is relatively much lower, and the environmental impact is much less.
      I hope that adequately explains the decision to built a terminal station at Curzon Street.

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls 13 днів тому +21

    Please will the government see sense at at least extend it to Crewe.

    • @gorgu08
      @gorgu08 13 днів тому +5

      There is zero chance that Crewe will not see this extended to there, irrespective of the political winds there is no other options it just will not be called hs2, watch out for a Crewe high speed bypass coming your way soon ;-)

    • @gorgu08
      @gorgu08 13 днів тому +5

      The funniest bit of all is the Tories will be powerless to avoid it

  • @SirKenchalot
    @SirKenchalot 8 днів тому

    When will you lay down the first piece of track? Will all 7 approach roads be laid down initially as it doesn't seem likely you'll need all 7 now that the rest of HS2 has been scaled back?

  • @gingertom2355
    @gingertom2355 9 днів тому

    The current rate of progress is fantastic to see. Just imagine how far along the station construction would have been if Government had quit the numerous bouts of prevarication and loss of nerve and just allowed the constructors to get on with it.
    Guess we'll need a different Government to get Euston built.

  • @richardwills-woodward5340
    @richardwills-woodward5340 9 днів тому

    Will this be built to European gauge and future-proofed (I know the trains will be UK gauge for the foreseeable future) because if we do manage an option of some services on a closed network in future (distant future of course and I'll probably be dead by then) it would be good to have the option of wider and taller (double-decker?) trains.

  • @user-gj7ew2sm5u
    @user-gj7ew2sm5u 13 днів тому +1

    Looks like its going to have alot of platforms, i wonder if they will all be built and finished now the railway stops there.

    • @mbrough2799
      @mbrough2799 13 днів тому +4

      It won't stop there. The project will be reviewed and then continued because the capacity is required for the future. It is only Sunak and his government that cannot understand this, for some unknown reason.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 днів тому

      This is only the terminus of HS2 in Birmingham, but the HS2 line also has another line that bypasses Birmingham to Handsacre in Staffordshire which will allow HS2 trains from Birmingham and London to go to Manchester and the North

    • @mbrough2799
      @mbrough2799 10 днів тому

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 At the moment the project north of Birmingham is is disarray, mainly of this government's making. Presumably it will be sorted out when people who know anything about transport take over. The French must be laughing at us, really. They have had high speed rail for decades. In the meantime, the British, or at least the Conservative government and its adherents keep pretending that they can stay behind the wheel on an ever expanding road network indefinitely, which of course will be impossible.

  • @ElmerCat
    @ElmerCat 9 днів тому

    After Curzon, I expect the next will be Jadzia, followed by Ezri.

  • @kennydeary957
    @kennydeary957 9 днів тому

    Who done the drawings for this project

  • @u1zha
    @u1zha 13 днів тому +1

    0:36 no link, but otherwise great video

  • @neilcurson4505
    @neilcurson4505 13 днів тому +3

    The railway from nowhere to nowhere now the northern line was cancelled, should have been London to Edinburgh

    • @nigelgarrett7970
      @nigelgarrett7970 12 днів тому +1

      Second largest city in Britain = nowhere, really?

    • @neilcurson4505
      @neilcurson4505 12 днів тому

      @@nigelgarrett7970 I meant the main line.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 днів тому

      @@neilcurson4505 It is the main line from Birmingham and Handsacre to London Euston what else would it be

    • @richardwills-woodward5340
      @richardwills-woodward5340 9 днів тому

      @@nigelgarrett7970 3rd in urban economic reality. It is also far poorer than Manchester now unfortunately.

    • @mrglide7078
      @mrglide7078 8 днів тому

      @@richardwills-woodward5340 Nice try 😂Citation please

  • @lg5819
    @lg5819 10 днів тому +1

    The sad part is so many people, here and abroad believe the misinformation being put out there about HS2 and our inability to build a world class high speed rail project. Well, HS2 Ltd have proven that’s untrue with video updates about its actual progress. High Speed Rail is the future. I just hope we have high speed rail connecting all of Great Britain, one day, when we can cut down on all the excessive bureaucracy that holds it back.

  • @thomasfy4
    @thomasfy4 12 днів тому +1

    Il be surprised if this opens any time before 2040

    • @chrisoddy8744
      @chrisoddy8744 9 днів тому

      Currently scheduled to be open before 2030

  • @daranphilipson1025
    @daranphilipson1025 13 днів тому +9

    Unfortunately the piers will be decorated with graffiti before too long.

    • @beecee2205
      @beecee2205 12 днів тому +2

      good, it should read this is an expensive pile of shit

    • @davidgraham6872
      @davidgraham6872 10 днів тому

      It's the M11 allover again 😮

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 днів тому

      @@beecee2205 So what would you spend this on, it is not for you but the fiture generations who will want to travel at high speed by rail

    • @beecee2205
      @beecee2205 10 днів тому

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 local links. Unlike all the fools on this thread I live in Warwickshire. I live 1.5 miles from Nuneaton. Its on thw west coast mainline. I do not need HS2, which will be over priced. And lets not forget the parking eh ? High speed ? Train from Aston to Acton is high speed ? Please. Do we need a high speed link ? Ever hear of the internet. Its a lot quicker.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 днів тому

      @@beecee2205 Definetly shows you know nothing about HS2 or Birmingham, for a start HS2 goes no where near Aston, Birmingham Curzon Street Station is in the heart of Birmingham City Center then it runs through the Vauxhall and Duddeston area of Birimingham, then Saltley, Washwood Heath and finaly under Bromford to Water Orton but no where near Aston I am afraid to say and then terminating in London Euston again definaetly not Acton. We in Birmningham, the West Midlands Manchester, Liverpool and Scotland definately need this HS2 high speed link and Nuneaton and the existing WCML will get a slower train service as most of Avanti West Coast services will trnsfer to the HS2 route when it opens and where do you get the over priced bit from, maybe where you got the idea of HS2 terminating in Aston. I suggest you get an AtoZ map of Birmingham a trace the HS2 route on it before making silly comments, and yes I live in Birmingham near where HS2 runs

  • @gordonholding5621
    @gordonholding5621 13 днів тому +2

    Beneath the decks would’ve been an ideal car parking spot for rail customers with a mini tram to get from car park to station. Too late now to build it into the design.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 13 днів тому +2

      A tram service from Curzon Street to Digbeth and the City Centre is being provided by the Midland Metro

  • @Back2TheBike
    @Back2TheBike 12 днів тому +2

    From nowhere to nowhere, £120Bn. Looks like that money funds the positive reviewers in these comments too.

    • @nigelgarrett7970
      @nigelgarrett7970 12 днів тому +1

      So the second largest city in Britain is nowhere then? Given how often I see the same comment I wonder who is funding them?

  • @johnhodges7891
    @johnhodges7891 13 днів тому +2

    Look lovely when all the graffiti artists are allowed in .. trust me they will

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 13 днів тому +1

      They will need a dedicated team to clean it off.

  • @paulhendry13ph
    @paulhendry13ph 12 днів тому

    Why a viaduct? Why not ground level?

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 днів тому

      Because the station main entrance is higher than the ground level near the original station and for the line to enter Curzon Street Station it has to cross at high level the Birmingham to Derby Railway Line and the Cross City Line before entering Curzon Street Station

  • @zizapeg18
    @zizapeg18 10 днів тому +1

    I go to different sites on H2s and the amount of destruction on the country side is enormous.The scale you can not comprehend,from warickshire through country side and the split from the M42 running up to lichfield main line and what for ? So you can get to and from london 30 mins earlier and it will cost you more.Biggest white elephant in our history.

    • @richardwills-woodward5340
      @richardwills-woodward5340 9 днів тому

      Incorrect. It has nothing to do with time. If you understood railways you'd know the network is full. There is no other solution that is viable. Beyond that, if you support mass migration we'll need to repeat it.

  • @user-gj7ew2sm5u
    @user-gj7ew2sm5u 12 днів тому +2

    Somewhere for the homeless to keep out of the rain, i guess. Shame some money wasn't spent on building them proper shelter instead

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 днів тому

      This area will be full of transport sites such as taxi ranks, Bus stops and a tram stop

    • @user-gj7ew2sm5u
      @user-gj7ew2sm5u 10 днів тому

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 yes your probably right, if had gone to New Street station instead of terminating in Digbeth, there would be no need for taxis or buses

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 днів тому

      @@user-gj7ew2sm5u Again sorry to correct you HS2 doesn't terminate in Digbeth, you are thinking of the National Express Coach Station, HS2 runs into Curzon Street Station from the Vauxhall area of Birmingham with the Birmingham Curzon Street Station Main Entrance being on Moor Street Queensway in the City Centre next door to Birmingham Moor Street Station, even if you went into New Street Station in most cases you require to get the Tram, Bus or Taxi to your final destination

  • @ldcclan220
    @ldcclan220 11 днів тому

    Love or hate humanity those pillars will stand for hundreds of years “my great great great grandad built HS2” 😂😂😂

  • @Joe90V
    @Joe90V 13 днів тому +5

    Underneath; a concrete wasteland. You'd have thought Birmingham would have learnt by now.

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 13 днів тому

      It central government that decided to put tunnels in empty country side rather than a tunnel and underground station here.

    • @Joe90V
      @Joe90V 13 днів тому

      @@DavidKnowles0 and you don't think Birmingham Council had any say in it? You have no clue.

    • @1chish
      @1chish 13 днів тому +1

      Its not a wasteland. Its where people can walk and ride bikes and get about in an open and well lit area.
      It has a use so not wasted.

    • @1chish
      @1chish 13 днів тому +3

      @@DavidKnowles0 Well not true but have you any idea of the subterranean structures under Birmingham from the last 200 years that would have had to be either shifted or negotiated around? Curzon Street station will sit above ground rather than in a huge hole underground. More daylight and easier access and less costly.

    • @ZDtue
      @ZDtue 13 днів тому

      Huh? 1:40

  • @Leon-lt5gv
    @Leon-lt5gv 12 днів тому +1

    Its run out of money ' tories over budgeting 'ie overpricing to rip the tax payer off ' now it will be sold to a billionair tory friend ' so now its gonna cost you more money to use ' thats privatisation in action ' paid for by the people ' owned by billionairs 🤷🤑🤔

    • @mrglide7078
      @mrglide7078 8 днів тому +1

      You lost me in your word salad. Please, again in English..?

    • @Leon-lt5gv
      @Leon-lt5gv 8 днів тому

      @@mrglide7078 go back to school 😂

  • @Leonard_Smith
    @Leonard_Smith 13 днів тому +3

    Since when did a human need to say "Number" after a number in everyday speech? 🤣

    • @TomGB-81
      @TomGB-81 13 днів тому +6

      That's how construction management tend to speak, been like that for at least a couple of decades that I've been an electrician.

    • @Nick-ye5kk
      @Nick-ye5kk 13 днів тому

      I didn't even notice but now I notice every time.

  • @jasonking6892
    @jasonking6892 8 днів тому +1

    50 Billion over Budget on a who Knows 100 Billion project or More Shocking from London to Birmingham Big Deal
    Complete Waste of Money 😅😅😅👎🇬🇧

  • @ncooper8438
    @ncooper8438 13 днів тому +2

    Impressive civil engineering, but maybe using tunnels would have been aesthetically more pleasing.

    • @johnevans2044
      @johnevans2044 12 днів тому +1

      I'm sure the engineers who planned the HS2 route and the construction works have considered the possibilty, but it's likely that the height contours of the approach from the east mean a tunnel would not be a sensible design. It's not a good idea to make trains (even modern ones) have to go up a rising gradient out of a station from a standing start. The line into Euston was built in a cutting going downhill into the station, and this proved to be a problem from day one when trains leaving the station had to immediatley negotiate a rising gradient. Much better to construct railway lines to be as level as possible, particularly at stations.

    • @mrglide7078
      @mrglide7078 8 днів тому

      and very expensive

  • @thoughtsonnarrowboatingwit3882
    @thoughtsonnarrowboatingwit3882 9 днів тому +1

    Just another horrible lifeless precast unit waiting to be tagged!

  • @beecee2205
    @beecee2205 12 днів тому +1

    white elephant

  • @samplechannel2fiyd5idjfufjfud
    @samplechannel2fiyd5idjfufjfud 9 днів тому

    slow af

  • @petercrossley1069
    @petercrossley1069 5 днів тому

    You're not "stood" you are "standing". Learn English.

  • @garykillington4915
    @garykillington4915 10 днів тому

    Waste of money

    • @mrglide7078
      @mrglide7078 8 днів тому

      what is? Your device for posting inane comments with?

  • @Krasimir_Mitev8686
    @Krasimir_Mitev8686 13 днів тому

    That method is too slow

  • @TheWarforged
    @TheWarforged 13 днів тому +3

    It’s a shame no one will be able to afford the tickets. Such a pointless project.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 13 днів тому +5

      What utter rubbish, it appears you do not live in the vacinity of HS2 and Birmingham because if you did you would know what is happening with train services once HS2 opens, once this new line opens 98% of high speed train services run by Avanti West Coast who will be the operators of all HS2 services from Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool and Scotland will transfer from operating on the southern section of the WCML to London Euston on to the HS2 route, so every one who uses Avanti West Coast Train Services into London Euston will when it opens will have to use the HS2 services so yes people will be able to afford to use HS2 services like the Europeans use the TGV lines in Europe

    • @TheWarforged
      @TheWarforged 12 днів тому

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 I live in Middlesex smack in the middle of the end of the HS2, and given current rail prices I can't see how anyone is going to afford to use it given its massive over budget spending and the private investors who will want to reap their money back and more. But by all means call my rational points "utter rubbish". But I remind you that the lockdown disproved the need to move large numbers of people into offices to get the job done, many big companies have down scaled their offices if their egos allowed them too and many office workers are still working from home entirely or the at least the majority of their time. So the fantasy of thousands of workers living "up north" and getting on HS2 for the commute to their London grind is just that a fantasy as none of them are going to benefit from 6-7-8k or more a year in rail fares, and I am being generously optimisic they will be that low.
      Yeah perhaps try to use reason and logic and facts instead of ad hominem mate.

    • @mrglide7078
      @mrglide7078 8 днів тому

      Indeed. Let's all pack it up and go home lads. TheWarforged says it's a pointless project

  • @leo1314ok
    @leo1314ok 3 дні тому

    Oh yippee. How much did we waste on this then?