I would also suggest wearing a dust mask, particularly when grinding and mixing the wash. I've had some good luck with an angle grinder and diamond wheel. Not something to take on if you're unfamiliar with angle grinders though.
Thanks for the video. You can prevent taking chunks out of your kiln shelves by flipping your chisel over, so the bevelled edge is flat against the kiln shelf. This way it will lift the glaze up, instead of the chisel digging down into the shelf.
Thank you for that informative video! The first kiln wash I did ... my consistency was way too thick and it cracked and now I see why! By the way your water jug is GORGEOUS!!! I LOVE it!!!! I love the shape, the way you cut the opening and the gorgeous glaze!!! You are super talented thank you for sharing so much!
Good that you show all the steps of ceramics. People don't realize all of the behind the scenes stuff (especially when they think your price is high). When chiseling, consider flipping it over. Bevel down chiseling will keep you from digging into the shelf as much. Keep up the good work. Cheers
Hi, I love your videos they help me out a lot and I would like to ask. Can I fire the shelfs with kiln wash along with my bisque/glaze pottery firing? With my pieces sitting atop of the shelfs. Will they not stick?
I have a brand new kiln and brand new kiln shelves. I am confused about kiln shelves. I was told by a guy at the pottery store that I should flip my shelves using one side this firing and the opposite side next time to prevent shelf warping. But the kiln wash is kind of flaky. When I flip them won’t it land on my pots below and mess up my pots? I can’t find anybody else who says kiln shelves warp. What is the truth? Warp or not warp? Alternate sides or not?
The potters I spoke with today said they only have kiln wash on the top side where the pottery goes. (& none on the sides). They don’t flip their shelves either.
Great video! This is definitely one of those things you do not want to overlook! Especially if you know you have runny glazes! (Speaking from experience!)
Thank you. I have learned a lot from you. I am looking for a kiln to buy. I usually pay to get my pottery fired at a ceramic class. I like the automatic digital type instead of the manual. Do you have any brand to recommend. .
Thanks for making these videos! I've be procrastinating using my kiln because I've felt so in the dark on so many things and I didn't want burn my garage down because I didn't know what I was doing😬 Do you have a suggestion on how long should I wait after I apply kiln wash before I fire the shelves again?
I only do this about once every 5 months or as needed. I would say if you never got glaze on your killing shelves and they are perfectly fine you wouldn't even need to do this
Donte, Great video. I was just curious if you have ever used kiln wash as just powder and what your thoughts would be on using just powder? One of my teachers used to just put a layer of powder down on the shelves and after a firing just picked out the pieces of glaze that dripped and was soaked up by the powder.
Earth Nation Ceramics Thanks for the reply. Her reasoning was she never had to really chip anything off and she could still reuse the powder just by stacking the shelves with the powder still on them
It was explained to me that you don’t want to use the kiln wash as powder. It is essentially a fine dust. With an extraction fan running it creates air currents that can pick up the dust and deposit it on the outside of your glazed pots. Not good!
Do you ever have any of the kiln wash on your shelves flake off after the first firing? I essentially do all of the steps you explain, however after the first fire, I usually notice many of my shelves have the kiln wash flaking off (almost as if it didn’t stick to the shelf once it dried). Some even flake before firing. I’ve tried changing the consistency, layering, and even cleaning/drying of my shelves. Not sure of the brand off the top of my head. Could it just be a substandard brand of kiln wash? Any info is appreciated.
I have a question. Aren’t you supposed to clean off the shelves from the dust by wiping down with a big sponge and water? I’ve been doing this but if I don’t have to it would save a ton of time.
I already have kiln wash on my selves and they are in need of some TLC. Should the old kiln wash be removed or just layer new on top? It seems like it may make the shelves get uneven to keep adding layers...
Should come with shelves, if not I would google the company and go from there. Got a new school kiln after 40 years and the old shelves don't fit the new kiln
Alright, alright. I've seen a ton of this chisel stuff.. Although, I am obviously a relatively new potter (researching varieties of styles of basic functions of some new equipment and even types/varieties of my materials) .. I however, have found a great career and am very well-versed in many other traits and skills, primarily Carpentry and Masonry. The chisel here just seems obnoxiously bullish for something of more passive-ness and caressing. My only 'personal input' I wish I could suggest here, if I may please allow..is that these kiln shelfs are extremely fragile as-is.. the tensile strength and lack of moisture in them make them extremely brittle. Introducing any sort of cuts, breaks, or "impact" to that of the shelf (especially with sharp objects) is that you only result more "fracking" within the materials of the shelf itself. Having the tear outs and divets created as well, is to only become the "weakest spot" on the entire shelf. And in my ways of thinking, I would want to re-fill with kiln cement (giving time to cure) and sand smooth again, then cleaning, and re-applying the wash lastly.. Long story short.. even though you are extremely easy with the chisel in hand.. try to veer yourself from any sort of hard impacts, jolts, drops, scrapes, or cutouts in the structural integrity of the shelf and will yield you a much, much longer life span in your materials .. using more a passive approach, such as a 80 -> 120 -> 180 -> 220 grit sandpaper will be more of my personal approach after several readings and viewings) I really, really appreciate everything thing else you are doing, explaining, and teaching for everyone else here. You have exactly the right personality for teaching. Including, helping me. Thank you. New Subscriber, follower. 🤙 Pot On 🤘
You are using the chisel wrong, the bevel should be down, use it to control the amount of "dig" you are getting and adjust as you go. good video tho, TY
I would also suggest wearing a dust mask, particularly when grinding and mixing the wash.
I've had some good luck with an angle grinder and diamond wheel. Not something to take on if you're unfamiliar with angle grinders though.
Thanks for the video.
You can prevent taking chunks out of your kiln shelves by flipping your chisel over, so the bevelled edge is flat against the kiln shelf. This way it will lift the glaze up, instead of the chisel digging down into the shelf.
Thank you for that informative video! The first kiln wash I did ... my consistency was way too thick and it cracked and now I see why! By the way your water jug is GORGEOUS!!! I LOVE it!!!! I love the shape, the way you cut the opening and the gorgeous glaze!!! You are super talented thank you for sharing so much!
Good that you show all the steps of ceramics. People don't realize all of the behind the scenes stuff (especially when they think your price is high). When chiseling, consider flipping it over. Bevel down chiseling will keep you from digging into the shelf as much. Keep up the good work. Cheers
As I am a beginner potter, you and your videos have been so helpful to me. You are so informative and fun to listen to .. thank you!! 😊
should I apply kiln wash to the floor of my new kiln?
Thank you for all the info! I do have a question, how often should we do this?
I’m going to kiln wash my shelves right now. Thanks for the video. This will be my first firing in my kiln I got off of Offerup
Thanks for this video! I have trouble with my wash flaking... any thoughts on what I am doing wrong?
This material can be used to restore the bottom of the kiln?
I swear every time I go "Just how do I try this" there is a video to help! Thank you!
Have you tried using a chisel bevel down? That way it's positioned more to chip over the surface rather than chip into.
Do you use a respirator doing this?
I mixed up too much wash, can I set the extra aside and use the remaining wash next time or do I need to make a fresh batch every time? Thanks!
Hi, I love your videos they help me out a lot and I would like to ask.
Can I fire the shelfs with kiln wash along with my bisque/glaze pottery firing? With my pieces sitting atop of the shelfs. Will they not stick?
Ahh, have the same question, too bad there is still no answer, I would really appreciate it 🙏
@@inna3687 In the mean time I have tested this out and its safe. You can load the bisque with fresh coat of kiln wash applied to your shelves.
I have a brand new kiln and brand new kiln shelves. I am confused about kiln shelves. I was told by a guy at the pottery store that I should flip my shelves using one side this firing and the opposite side next time to prevent shelf warping. But the kiln wash is kind of flaky. When I flip them won’t it land on my pots below and mess up my pots? I can’t find anybody else who says kiln shelves warp. What is the truth? Warp or not warp? Alternate sides or not?
I have never fliped
The potters I spoke with today said they only have kiln wash on the top side where the pottery goes. (& none on the sides). They don’t flip their shelves either.
What about an atomizer? Is that necessary?
I have perforated kiln shelves. Should I apply the kiln wash in the holes or try to keep them clean?!
Is there a right side up for kiln shelves?
Really enjoy your VDO. Fun and helpful. Love it. Thank you 😊
Great video! This is definitely one of those things you do not want to overlook! Especially if you know you have runny glazes! (Speaking from experience!)
Luke Platte tell me about it 😂
Thanks a lot for the info. I covered them with kiln wash but it doesn't dry after 30 min. Did I do sth wrong?
Thank you. I have learned a lot from you. I am looking for a kiln to buy. I usually pay to get my pottery fired at a ceramic class. I like the automatic digital type instead of the manual. Do you have any brand to recommend.
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Have you every tried using a Dremel to remove glaze from your shelves? It seems like it might work faster but does it damage the shelf?
Thanks for making these videos! I've be procrastinating using my kiln because I've felt so in the dark on so many things and I didn't want burn my garage down because I didn't know what I was doing😬 Do you have a suggestion on how long should I wait after I apply kiln wash before I fire the shelves again?
It should dry within the day. Just leave it out normal style
@@EarthNationCeramics thanks so much!
Do you have to fire them without the pottery or can you put your work in directly after it dried?
Donte - if there were no drips on the shelf, how often would you add wash to your shelves?
I only do this about once every 5 months or as needed. I would say if you never got glaze on your killing shelves and they are perfectly fine you wouldn't even need to do this
As needed, I work in a school that has 300 students and I only redo when there are too many drips. 5 years+ if you keep it nice
Thank you so much for talking about safety precautions! :))) Watching this again, now that I have a kiln....
After we kiln wash our shelves do we have to do a firing without goodies in the kiln?
Nope :)
hi my cone sometimes sticks can you tell me what to do.
Donte,
Great video. I was just curious if you have ever used kiln wash as just powder and what your thoughts would be on using just powder? One of my teachers used to just put a layer of powder down on the shelves and after a firing just picked out the pieces of glaze that dripped and was soaked up by the powder.
Because of substances meant to be mixed with water and brushed on I have never used it in a powder form only. I see no reason to.
Earth Nation Ceramics Thanks for the reply. Her reasoning was she never had to really chip anything off and she could still reuse the powder just by stacking the shelves with the powder still on them
It was explained to me that you don’t want to use the kiln wash as powder. It is essentially a fine dust. With an extraction fan running it creates air currents that can pick up the dust and deposit it on the outside of your glazed pots. Not good!
@@mavisdavisify Isn't it also super bad to breathe in powder form?
Hi, am I suppose to put kiln wash in the kiln itself as well? On the floor and walls of it? Thank you if you reply.
noooooooo! it says it on the kiln wash box, only for the shelves.
@@marilynnpester1049 thank you. Lol I went and took a class, before I messed up anything. I'm loving it.
Do you ever have any of the kiln wash on your shelves flake off after the first firing? I essentially do all of the steps you explain, however after the first fire, I usually notice many of my shelves have the kiln wash flaking off (almost as if it didn’t stick to the shelf once it dried). Some even flake before firing. I’ve tried changing the consistency, layering, and even cleaning/drying of my shelves. Not sure of the brand off the top of my head. Could it just be a substandard brand of kiln wash? Any info is appreciated.
Why is it important to chip off the glaze if its low or flush with the shelf? Can you not put kiln wash over it and be ok? Thanks!
it wont stick to the old kiln wash.
I have a question. Aren’t you supposed to clean off the shelves from the dust by wiping down with a big sponge and water? I’ve been doing this but if I don’t have to it would save a ton of time.
Yes! This also keeps it from cracking as it allows for the water to absorb slower and more evenly
........ how do I know...... Didn't wet the shelves the first time.....TOTALLY cracked. Second time wetted it, took longer to dry but zero issues.
I already have kiln wash on my selves and they are in need of some TLC. Should the old kiln wash be removed or just layer new on top? It seems like it may make the shelves get uneven to keep adding layers...
I've never seen anything that says you have to but I usually do
Hi there do you have to do a kiln wash after every time you glaze?
Curious also! How often does it need to be redone?
Should I put kiln wash on brand new shelves?
if you don't want glaze to drip on them ....totally
Yay, thank you and perfect timing too, I had a glaze go all run away bride on the club shelves 😭😭
I just got a kiln. How do you know what size to buy
Shelf that is
Should come with shelves, if not I would google the company and go from there. Got a new school kiln after 40 years and the old shelves don't fit the new kiln
How long should you wait prior to being able to fire them?
Ugh I'm wondering this too
Wait till they're totally dry
I love your videos!
I appreciate your tips!
Funny entertaining and informative thanks for the info
Hey Donte! Love the videos Bro! but the chisel is used the other way with the bevel against your work..... Carpenters tip! .....hahahaha!
Thanks for making this less scary!
I live in St Francis Bay. Can you send me by post one container with Kiln Wash. I have a Post Net close?
Naw. You're going to have to buy your own.
I love info about kilns
Should or can this be done to the bottom floor of the Kiln as well?
Why does my kiln wash go powder when it dries
you wash it and then you have to fire it to set it
Thank you
Chipping glaze off of kiln shelves is so oddly satisfying in person
Alright, alright. I've seen a ton of this chisel stuff.. Although, I am obviously a relatively new potter (researching varieties of styles of basic functions of some new equipment and even types/varieties of my materials) .. I however, have found a great career and am very well-versed in many other traits and skills, primarily Carpentry and Masonry. The chisel here just seems obnoxiously bullish for something of more passive-ness and caressing.
My only 'personal input' I wish I could suggest here, if I may please allow..is that these kiln shelfs are extremely fragile as-is.. the tensile strength and lack of moisture in them make them extremely brittle. Introducing any sort of cuts, breaks, or "impact" to that of the shelf (especially with sharp objects) is that you only result more "fracking" within the materials of the shelf itself. Having the tear outs and divets created as well, is to only become the "weakest spot" on the entire shelf. And in my ways of thinking, I would want to re-fill with kiln cement (giving time to cure) and sand smooth again, then cleaning, and re-applying the wash lastly..
Long story short.. even though you are extremely easy with the chisel in hand.. try to veer yourself from any sort of hard impacts, jolts, drops, scrapes, or cutouts in the structural integrity of the shelf and will yield you a much, much longer life span in your materials .. using more a passive approach, such as a 80 -> 120 -> 180 -> 220 grit sandpaper will be more of my personal approach after several readings and viewings)
I really, really appreciate everything thing else you are doing, explaining, and teaching for everyone else here. You have exactly the right personality for teaching. Including, helping me.
Thank you. New Subscriber, follower.
🤙 Pot On 🤘
sun 11 sep 22
You are using the chisel wrong, the bevel should be down, use it to control the amount of "dig" you are getting and adjust as you go. good video tho, TY
Dammit Jim Im a Potter not a chiseler
by opposite direction I guess he means 90 turn
A mask is necessary and sanding outside is best........
I didn't even know this existed