Mononoke Hime - Journey to the West - with Score (Analyzed) - Joe Hisaishi - Full Score
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Hi everyone,
I'm Tommi. Some info and PDF link here.
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Link to this analysis PDF:
/ jourey-to-west-51701344
Link to "The Legend of Ashitaka" video analysis:
/ legend-of-hime-46234340
More videos that youtube deletes are on Patreon, plus more score analysis coming soon!
/ tommasoannoni
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Pease enjoy this transcription and analysis of the film scoring cue "Journey to the West" (from the movie "Mononoke Hime"; composer: Joe Hisaishi).
BTW, it's a beautiful movie with an outstandingly real and honest story: you should watch it.
This is a little teaser, the beautiful cue "The Legend of Ashitaka" has been removed from youtube so it's on my Patreon account.
It is my first time adding notes / little analysis to a score for other people,
and I would really like to do more and better for who is interested in orchestral and film music:
please let me know if you would prefer something done differently in the future (example: reduced score in fewer staves, just piano reduction, transposed score, more/less written notes, bigger text, bigger music, etc).
I was writing this for a potential concert, canceled because of the virus, so I then decided to analyze it and upload it for everyone's benefit.
[Some differences from the original cue are due to the specificity of the orchestra. For example, often Violin 2 is doubling the Viola, because our viola section was rather small)]
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Original composition: Joe Hisaishi
Transcription and notes: Tommaso Annoni
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I do not own the right to the music, nor to the images from the movie.
I did the music transcription and analysis, explanations, etc.
The copyrighted content is here used for educational purposes, as by Section 107 of the Copyright Act.
("Transformative uses are those that add something new, with a further purpose or different character, and do not substitute for the original use of the work").
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Original recording I've used:
Journey To The West (Princess Mononoke) · Eminence Symphony Orchestra
A Night in Fantasia 2004: Studio Ghibli Edition
℗ 2014 Eminence Symphony Orchestra
Released on: 2010-05-11
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I think it’s really interesting how Hisaishi uses the brass instruments in the latter part of the song. Brass instruments have always been used as an instrument to either present royalty (i.e. the presentation of kings & queens) or doing salutes (ex. The military throughout world history).
When I hear this it makes me think of military funerals and how horns are played there. This makes me think Hisaishi put this there story-wise to remind people of death of a part of the character of Ashitaka. He separates from his family and can never come back; he is dead to them and vice versa; it’s the last time we see them in the film. Might be reaching, but I love the potential storytelling that Hisaishi is doing in his music, all with just a couple of notes & a solo.
Keep up the great videos man, this was great!
That's true, brass were born for calling (war/hunt horns) and celebrations often related to royalties etc (and even nowadays there are brass bands etc), so it does connect with Ashitaka being a prince.
I think musically it was also to have a "cool-down" section after the full orchestra that was still "warm" (sometimes he uses Woodwinds alone, this time brass makes sense).
And thank you for your kind words! More content is coming, also tomorrow I am giving a talk about 'Interactive Music in Games' at Game Sound Conference.
@@tommasoannoni481 That’s awesome! You should definitely share the link if people are able to tune in live. Also would love some content like this on some of your favorite game scores! 🔥(Jesper Kyd’s Assassin’s Creed is highly overlooked...just sayin lol)
bar 34: Here come the chills. One of most beautiful pieces of music out there. Thanks for your analysis!
Dude you need to do more of this! Very educational.
I am doing more!
Will upload much more, with also more resources on Patreon, as soon as I get my working visa.
Amazing, please just make more of this. The format is very good already.
Superb analysis - I like the balance between your own subjective opinions with the harmony and technical stuff.. really visual as well which is great for creative people / kinaesthetic learners.. I think the full score is always better as you can see how the themes are passed around and developed within the texture and better to understand orchestration in terms of the role of each instrument family - great work!! ✨🙏🏻✨
Thank you for your articulate comment, it gives me the energy to do more!
This is so great! Thank you for uploading this!
Thanks for this! Can you show percussion too? Or did you and I just missed it? Thanks so much for your insight and intellect!
If you are not already a professor, please, do become one! Consider it for the world! I found your way of explaining subjective concepts very easy to understand, precise and helpful!
Thank you so much for doing that!
Cheers from Brazil!
Aww, thank you so much for your kind words!
I love teaching. I did a lot of tutoring etc in the past. To have a full-time teaching job, I guess some things have to align just the right way, but who knows..
Tommaso. GRAZIE DI CUORE...CHE MERAVIGLIA....GRAZIE GRAZIE GRAZIE...è MERAVIGLIOSA QUESTA ANALISI...TI PREGO...ANCORA COSì!
Grazie a te!
Si, quando ho un po' di tempo finisco le nuove trascrizioni, se ti iscrivi con la campanella youtube ti avviserà.
Amazing! This gave me some real orchestration inspiration
Thanks for doing this Tommaso. This format is great, better than a reduction. Looking forward to the next cues !
Thank you!
Feel free to subscribe to be notified when the new one comes out.. pretty soon..
I am just discovering this genre so this is all new and wonderful to me. If you made your red insight comments larger that would be amazing. Other than that, keep going!
Thank you man! very useful to understand how classical music works
This is great!! Thanks
thx for the analysis i love this song :,)
I love it! Great work, and you transcribed by ear?! That is really impressive given some of the denser textures.
Yes this I did just by ear, actually it’s been easier than other pieces (like “The Legend of Ashitaka”). But yeah it takes some time to investigate some doublings etc
Wow, wow, wow and wow. I'm really blown away by the fact this is all transcribed by ear. Excellent job, and awesome analysis - keep it up, can't wait to see more!
I did more, also including the movie video, but they "took it down". I think in the future I may have to do a mock-up of the music. I don't know how other channels like "Film Scoring Analysis" manage to keep everything original in their public videos.
What would you like to see analyzed?
Oh btw this has a bunch of woodwinds that are not there. Like a lot of piccolo etc (this was meant to be performed live so it's a little different from the original and I didn't fix it, anyway).
@@tommasoannoni481 I was so sad to see Legend of Ashitaka taken down! I had used your transcription to make a staffpad mockup and analyze the score but I hadn't fully completed it when it was taken down. You're doing amazing work and it's very educational for me personally. I hope you can find a way to put the second part back up! Thanks for your hard work Tommaso and take care!
@@Dklampanis Thank you again, and just to let you know I managed to have The Legend of Ashitaka video now up on my Patreon!
www.patreon.com/posts/legend-of-hime-46234340
hey. Nice content. Im a self-taught musician so content like this are really helpful for me. Hope to see another one from you :)
I should be resuming to upload content soon!
love how you explain emotion through theory. Make more please!
Thank you!
Yes, I've been planning and preparing a few things, soon I'll have more time and will restart doing more.
I've been saying it for a while, but it should really be happening in the next month finally - new content, maybe new format as well.
Anyway, thank you for your kind words and support!
Great, I Prefer full score, because you show the details of all instruments!
Congratulations for this work!!!
Amazing analysis, thank you. Only demand from me would be that I'd like more haha. Great job, I'm grateful for this.
Thank you! Yeah, I have been away from this for a while now, I think in maybe a month I'll be back doing more!
Thank you for this!!!
You're welcome! Hopefully, new things are coming soon..
great analysis!
You are so great👍🏻 It’s very hard to transcribe orchestral music by ear and you can write all notes down. Amazing!
I’m looking forward to hearing the coming music with your analysis which is really good for amateurs to read and appreciate. Thank you very much! Well done 👍🏻
Thank you for your warm words!
More is coming and I am so excited yayyy
Love it, absolutely love it! I love the this format too so easy to follow the score on screen and understand. Please do more!!
Absolutly wonderful, thank you so much !!!
my good sir, this is some fantastic work ! Would you sell this in pdf ? Or maybe you have a patreon of some sort where i could download this ?
Either way, it's great, i'll leave a like !
Thank you!
My Patreon is:
www.patreon.com/TommasoAnnoni
And I just uploaded this cue, just for you!
I can't sell the scores directly, since they are not mine (copyrights), but I can give lessons where I use the music as examples, hence why all the analysis. I'll leave it up on the Patreon for now, but may have to reconfigure things later.
I will also soon upload full scores analysis of other cues, maybe midi too, and on Patreon I also have more videos, that UA-cam removes.
More is coming soon to UA-cam as well, so feel free to subscribe to be updated! New video coming tomorrow, or in the next days!
@@tommasoannoni481 That's awesome man, I'll make sure to subscribe to your patreon in a couple of days !
Amazing work! Thank you so much for sharing.
Joe Hisaishi is one of my all-time favorite composers.
Yes, he writes beautiful music
Thank you very much! Really great video and very helpful..
This is awesome! Good job!
This is lovely man, just beautiful. Really love the commentary, makes you appreciate the piece much more and the choices that are involved in composing it.
Such a great vid, man! Thanks for making it!
My pleasure, thank you
This is great!
Nice work and very informative. I like having the full score. Please keep it up!
Awesome work ! Thanks a lot
I just have to say, thank you! Awesome!!
Thank you!
Feel free to subscribe as more is coming!!
Beautiful work Tommaso. So helpful!
Thank you!
Feel free to subscribe, for more to come.
@@tommasoannoni481 That has been done right away!
@@nRGmusicproduction Oh grat! Thanks!
Sorry, youtube didn't notify me.
I'm spamming everyone looool
MOREEEE!! I LOVE THESE VIDEOS!
thank you!
Hello! I have a question, its really important for me: what is this instrument that plays high solo in the original score on the 1:56? I know that in many orchestrations it's flute or flute piccolo, but in original score this sound is so orientaI or ancient (more like high duduk). I am looking for this answer for 15 years, maybe you will know something about it. Love your content, you have such a talent ❤
It's definitely a double reed, probably a Hichiriki? But I am not 100% sure.
And, I think it's played *very* well (the legato and the soft/delicate moments, even such a short phrase is not easy to be played that clean!).
In the original, the previous line of flute is not played on European flutes (likely some Japanese wooden flutes?).
Then, the melody you refer to, it's definitely a double reed instrument, over the pizzicato strings.
I am not an expert of Japanese instruments, but my best guess is that it's the Hichiriki.
It's "similar" to the oboe (in that is a high range double reed), and it may look like a duduk (or a piccolo flute body, which has a straight "embrochure" and a double reed), but it's different.
The sound of the duduk is definitely different, more "dark" if you want, and there are less higher resonances (although it varies with range, and also it depends on the hardness of the reed, but for that melody I don't think it's a duduk, which also is a middle easter instrument. But that's a good guess! We could say that the Hichiriki is the Duduk's Japanese cousin - and vice-versa).
Hichiriki can have quite a different color when it plays lower, but when it gets high, that "Journey to the West" sound comes alive.
For example, if you listen for this piece here (link below, Hichiriki is the player on the left of the screen),
already from the first note you can tell that the tone-color is very similar to that Hisaishi solo (just a 2nd or 3rd below it, but the color gets very close):
ua-cam.com/video/yXPGIMm-xEI/v-deo.html&ab_channel=whatdafunk6
I hope that helps!
The only way to know for sure would be:
1) contacting someone that worked on the score, or the recording;
2) finding a released album which "book" contains the name of all the orchestral players ("ethnic" solos may be mentioned even if the whole orchestra is not mentioned);
3) contact anyone that plays the Hichiriki (like from a facebook group dedicated to the instrument, or from reddit), sending them a link to the original track (like from spotify for example) and asking them if they think that's a Hichiriki or not.
And, thank you for your kind words!
PS:
maybe this example of the Hichiriki here is better:
(embedded timestamp from 2:42):
ua-cam.com/video/QRZ1eNlzhoA/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=162
video davvero utilissimo
complimenti
Grazie mille!
非常に興味深い動画をありがとうございます！
Beltà, grazie Tommaso.
Prego e grazie a te!
Love this piece so much. Thank you for the interpretation!
Very nice and informative!
Thank you!
Feel free to subscribe if you'd like to see more !
Fantastic
beautiful!
Feel free to subscribe if you'd like to see more, much more is coming!
Nice job! I particularly enjoyed the 7th resolving up comment! :)
Gracias por tanto
Love this. Keep it this way!
need more Joe Hisaishi please!!
I did “The Legend of Ashitaka” too, but youtube removed it :’(
So, the next ones maybe I’ll have to do an orchestral mockup of the audio.
Go on.. go on... ooops... We need more!
More is coming! Sooon!
Also some videos deleted by youtube are now on the Patreon
very nice! keep up the good work :)
It's really usefull!
I am glad! Thank you
oh dear! don't change a thing!
Hey good vid. I prefer these to reductions personally! Easier to follow and see what is actually going on IMO. Keep it up!
Is full score fine even tho the staves are then very small?
I agree with tom. A reduction means that instruments are never in the same place. A full score even though smaller means theyre consistent. And its also nice to see what is not playing.
I like both reductions and full like yours. For reductions we already have FilmScoreAnalysis, so I think it's better you go on doing full score analysis. I would've enjoyed a more harmonic description (more chords in the analysis) but I guess it would make the score harder to read. Nevertheless, I really enjoyed your video. Thank you.
Thank you. Since the harmonic progression in this piece repeats a lot (bVI, bVII, I, then tonicize the relative major), I didn't kept repeating the same, but in the future I will definitively put more attention to that.
Feel free to check out the new video that I just uploaded, I wrote more harmonic considerations there.
Where is the 2nd part? It a really well done work and I want to see more ot it
It was blowing up and youtube kept removing it, so here you can find it:
www.patreon.com/posts/legend-of-hime-46234340
Which is on my Patreon page,
www.patreon.com/TommasoAnnoni
More analysis are coming soon! The next one is epic, I believe
Great video and subscribed! I too prefer this over reductions. Can I ask you for the pdf file to study?
Hi Chiz, thank you!
I'll be honest: since I could not find the score for this movie, and I transcribed all by ear, it took a lot of time.
So I am thinking of creating some more material and then opening maybe a Patreon (so I can offer the clean and analyzed score for a low tier, and then maybe more materials for a higher tier). Or maybe a paid enhanced youtube channel with resources, like Film Scoring Analysis. I'm not sure yet.
Would that interest you?
It would be very affordable for you, but at least it would make more sense to me to invest the time.
Tommaso Annoni Yes! I would be very interested as long as they are full orchestral transcriptions. I prefer those scores as I can study the orchestration on top of the other usual elements (harmony, etc.). I follow Film Scoring Analysis too, it’s a great channel. I’m also interested in videogames’ and anime’s music transcriptions.
@@ChizFreak Great!
I am also very much into videogames, so I think I will definitively add that kind of material.
What is a music piece or a game of which you would like to see an analysis?
@@tommasoannoni481 First few that come to mind:
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Mor Adain / Roaming the Wastes (Day) ua-cam.com/video/Tx3AbguQZHU/v-deo.html
Starcraft 2 Wings of Liberty - Main Theme ua-cam.com/video/d5An5z5Gk60/v-deo.html
Monster Hunter - Proof of a Hero ua-cam.com/video/O3Ha8GCv788/v-deo.html
@@ChizFreak Wow, those tracks are very good!
I want to do the Xenoblade one so bad, but I already know it's gonna take a while! uwu it's very full, dense
I'll probably upload some other musics that I am already working on, but it will come their time:
I'll keep you updated thru the channel!
can i ask you the app you are use to write this? thank you so much
Sorry that I never saw your comment until now:
- I used Finale to write the music (I also use Sibelius, but recently I switched to Dorico) (aided with a piano to check the notes).
- Then I used the "Preview" app in Mac to make the colors, highlights, arrows, added notes, etc (adding notes on PDF, lated converted in JPEG, if I remember correctly).
- Then I used Final Cut Pro to make the video (with fades between each appearance of new highlights etc).
Just do this.... but more. MOAH! :D
How do you avoid copy-strike with a video like this?
The music is instantly recognized, therefore I cannot monetize the video (you can see the info about the track used just below the video description).
This happens because the music is already on youtube (the publisher gave permission to use it on youtube and it is already uploaded in some other video by them).
I am not sure why similar content is instead banned.
I wish some real person could review my banned videos, to understand that my work is analysis, I used material already on youtube, and I am also using content under the educational purpose law.
I honestly do not know how to avoid the “copyright-strike” when it happens.
@@tommasoannoni481 Thank you, I just uploaded my analysis :)
is there a way to get this as a pdf? thank you!
I will open a Patreon soon, with various resources.
Lol, it seems that you don't had a lot of fun with your harmony teacher. xD I didn't either, when I compose I don't usually care about resolutions and weird duplications as long as it sounds good to me.
:D One of my most favorite music for a animated film...Unfortunately this is not original...it is more orchestrated but in my opinion something should not be there...for ex. bar 21 even it is in released soundtrack there are wrong notes in clarinet and oboe (this shouldn't be there at all). :) In the case you want to use chord progression I would gladly suggest using a proper ones (C5, D5, E5 - Am, Bm, C, Bm, Cadd2, Dadd2 D, Gadd2, G ). But nicely analyzed...
Dominik Svoboda
Thank you for your suggestions.
I used the reference track that is in the video description (the ost cue is on youtube, but not available in USA, so I also wanted to avoid the video being taken down). I agree that bar 21 is weird.
Also in the start of page 2 the original has no strings, for example.
I will be more precise with the harmonic analysis in the future, if that’s important to people, but honestly if there is a 9th that resolve in half bar, I don’t really want to analyze as “Dadd2 D”: the score is there and everyone can se what happens counterpoint-wise (it’s even colored), so I think I prefer to have the harmonic analysis highlight the bigger context, so that at first glance everything is clear (direction wise and key center wise). I’ll think about it.
But thank you for your notes!
Own music
tears, why?1?