she is still better, the stun is better and her movement is still better than before,but yes this was a significant nerf but she is probably still better than before
@@luigipipefitter7375that took ages to stun. She only has one now but it’s much stronger. Like Viper molly got buffed but reduced to 1. Dont forget her strafe buff and fuel regen speed as well as her more accuracy during slide. She is way better agent than prenerf
@dipalibaul9120 Yep he sure does. But what about after the 12 seconds go away and all the other spells are gone. Does he recharge or get an extra one after 2 kills. Nope. Bro has a gun and a dream at that point. Also Brimstone is the same. I forgot he doesn't have rechargeable abilities too.
@@justsoup847that’s too broken and it was the literal reason he got nerfed mate, a second wall would probably make him better or making the wall see-through for your team
Trick I found is you can still ping normally with cypher cam, say for example you have planted for c long on haven if you have the cam somewhere on site and ping spike you can see it through the smoke. Still doesn’t work if they smoke spike directly though. Hope this helps 😄 Also love your channel keep up the hard work !!
Personally I think that not being able to ping spike anymore is stupid. Like it makes sense that the attackers should be able to see where the spike is 😢
Real issue of no ping for me is that you have to learn crossair placement for every angle now (and i dont have that time). Before i used to ping the angle I was peaking pre round, now ill have to play 10hours of freeplay every week to learn this. Not fun for the players that dont havr time but still want to enjoy the game
i think if they give neon 2 dashes but take away kill reset it should make her slightly more viable, because people aren't using the 1 dash they get now enough to make kill reset matter
in my opinion the neon nerf was not that bad, the movement with e ability is still really broken, and you dont really need 2 slides if you play your cards right, you can get 2 kills and have another slide anyways
One thing i love doing when playing as vyse is try to put my wall somewhere where i can single out somebody behind the wall and they cant help the teammate (such as reyna clearing an area). Example pearl's a site to the left where the wall is long enough to trap someone in there. 🤣🤣 Just imagine a reyna pushed onto site and then got caught behind that wall and just screams to their teammate "I'M STUCK I'M STUCK" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
im gonna be brutally honest i want neon to just be gutted into oblivion, idk why they thought a highly mobile agent was a good addition to a game like this, and its not a case of mobile like jett, this is full on cod levels of movement
as a neon main i want sentinals that can cover a flank afk with one button to be gone cause its full on cod levels of zero thought play. but thats valorant. everyone gets to play against abilities they dont like.
I really don't understand the razor vine nerf. vyse is already really weak, and it's not like her buffs are going to make her amazing either. why just remove possible setups from a sentinel player? I mean that's kind of the whole reason people like sentinel is because they can nerd out over setups, it really seems like they just nerfed her because they can
I think they need to make neon's ult last 15 seconds and give her those 2 slides. The counter of being less accurate AND getting slowed by vyse thorns is already a nerf enough.
call it cope but valorant is an rng check with the constant bullet inaccuracy in play and the fact that run and gun is still usable. I genuinely think neon got nerfed way too hard, but neon can't be buffed too much either otherwise it's senseless and braindead. Neon is a broken agent either way
Lmao it could've easily been solved by just adding bullet inaccuracy decrease the time to like min 15 seconds and increased an ult point What they chose to do put neon into the ground where u have almost 0 utility to enter coz if u grt stuck u only have a single slide so she cannot do shitshe doesnt have updraft or satchels which could put her into the air to avoid trips or some shit so 2 slides is perfectly calid she aint a skill agent anymore or a movement duelist she is useless now lmao
One thing i love doing when playing as vyse is try to put my wall somewhere where i can single out somebody behind the wall and they cant help the teammate (such as reyna clearing an area). Example pearl's a site to the left where the wall is long enough to trap someone in there. 🤣🤣 Just imagine a reyna pushed onto site and then got caught behind that wall and just screams to their teammate "I'M STUCK I'M STUCK" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Insider info: Riot dev got yelled at for not pinging the bomb when teammate had to spray through smoke to prevent defuse.
all you have to do is look at the person who announced the change and it speaks for itself lol
@@CxllumX bc shes a woman?
@@CxllumX bruh
@@meowtumnluzzi don't think that was a woman 💀
@ryx021 well ur wrong
Agents with mollies are gonna be a must have now
so glad i stayed up till 4:38 am for this
LMAO SAME
I'm glad I stayed up till 11am for this
Riot buffed neon and took away her having 2 stuns only to make her worse than she originally was a couple months ago
she is still better, the stun is better and her movement is still better than before,but yes this was a significant nerf but she is probably still better than before
@Strikexz faster speed means nothing when u have 1 slide to entry. Worse than yoru at this point maybe even iso
@@Quangminh0810who told you yoru was bad lmao
@@ethara21 i never said yoru was bad. But yoru isnt that efficient to entry in pro scene compared to a running neon with slides and stunts.
@@Quangminh0810 thats fair. I like playing him so I do see how hes less of an entry and more of an initiator with his clone and his flashes
they just nerfed her back to where she was, literally pointless
It’s even worse then pre buff. She used to have 2 concusses
It's some bullshit bruh
Yall forgetting about her overall speed increased back then. So she is still stronger than pre-buff neon.
They should just delete the agent lol as she is either useless or broken no balance at all but still a bit better than pre buff neon
@@luigipipefitter7375that took ages to stun. She only has one now but it’s much stronger. Like Viper molly got buffed but reduced to 1. Dont forget her strafe buff and fuel regen speed as well as her more accuracy during slide. She is way better agent than prenerf
Iso is the only agent that doesn't have a recharge mechanic anywhere. So we could have two slides back and no recharge. That would be great.
Why. Iso literally recharges shield with every kill/assist
@dipalibaul9120 Yep he sure does. But what about after the 12 seconds go away and all the other spells are gone. Does he recharge or get an extra one after 2 kills. Nope. Bro has a gun and a dream at that point. Also Brimstone is the same. I forgot he doesn't have rechargeable abilities too.
Deadlock?
@@justsoup847that’s too broken and it was the literal reason he got nerfed mate, a second wall would probably make him better or making the wall see-through for your team
Looking away from the flash IRL at 12:50 is SO relatable.
Trick I found is you can still ping normally with cypher cam, say for example you have planted for c long on haven if you have the cam somewhere on site and ping spike you can see it through the smoke. Still doesn’t work if they smoke spike directly though.
Hope this helps 😄
Also love your channel keep up the hard work !!
In order to celebrate the end of the reign of neon, we should all buy things
never thought I'd see the day keeoh is playing vyse after that speedrun
It's definitely a good day when my favorite Korean automobile manufacturer Keeoh drops a video 🤍
i wish she got her second stun back and maybe have her ult last 15 seconds instead of 10
Used to pray for times like this 🙏🙏
Personally I think that not being able to ping spike anymore is stupid. Like it makes sense that the attackers should be able to see where the spike is 😢
no youre just too stupid to get what they want to do
Real issue of no ping for me is that you have to learn crossair placement for every angle now (and i dont have that time). Before i used to ping the angle I was peaking pre round, now ill have to play 10hours of freeplay every week to learn this. Not fun for the players that dont havr time but still want to enjoy the game
Get good
@@bolts3848 get respectful
this will just make plays feel more satisfying with neon
Im glad she still has that long ass fire smoke ngl
27:16 He talks about how others aren’t tuned in with the game but wasn’t he the one playing RuneScape during his Cypher speed run?
i think if they give neon 2 dashes but take away kill reset it should make her slightly more viable, because people aren't using the 1 dash they get now enough to make kill reset matter
just get 2 kills keeoh boom you have another slide
We beating Chamber with this one
imo they should either give neon 1 full accuracy slide or 2 inaccurate ones
1:45 it sounds so wrong when I tried to entry as Vise .
lessgo keoh grinding
just like the raze nerf some of the neon nerfs not needed, but raze nerf there was no need
22:10 how about if you get a KILL and you did not use your slide, you already get the first stack
Keeoh has something against perry man... this guy just keeps shooting at him even tho he's on his team
A lot more people than you expect are going to quit this game over the smoke ping thing.
This is harder for me as a Sova player who could dart anywhere across the map (I was learning) just with a ping
in my opinion the neon nerf was not that bad, the movement with e ability is still really broken, and you dont really need 2 slides if you play your cards right, you can get 2 kills and have another slide anyways
Correct me if I'm wrong but neon it's the only agent to have only one charge on all abilitys
Ye
They should change it to 0 across the board
Well her run is infinite, technically
@@dipalibaul9120 i count that as a passive
gekko
One thing i love doing when playing as vyse is try to put my wall somewhere where i can single out somebody behind the wall and they cant help the teammate (such as reyna clearing an area). Example pearl's a site to the left where the wall is long enough to trap someone in there. 🤣🤣
Just imagine a reyna pushed onto site and then got caught behind that wall and just screams to their teammate "I'M STUCK I'M STUCK" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
you’ve played with 69420 so many times😭
It's 3 16 in the afternoon for me lol
is it me or there's always the same cham,ber in your games lmao like he appeared 2 or 3 times
bro its 4am almost 5
He lives in a different time zone I think it was like 1 or 2 for him
Riot buffed RoyalG
they should have just never buffed neon and left her as a niche agent that only a few people played
buy things
im gonna be brutally honest i want neon to just be gutted into oblivion, idk why they thought a highly mobile agent was a good addition to a game like this, and its not a case of mobile like jett, this is full on cod levels of movement
You're just noob
as a neon main i want sentinals that can cover a flank afk with one button to be gone cause its full on cod levels of zero thought play. but thats valorant. everyone gets to play against abilities they dont like.
They changed Neon from broken to broken.
Also ping nerf sucks
neon got nerfed and i still aced with it ur not safe yet :)
Bro I just realized that I have the same discord profile picture that amr
I really don't understand the razor vine nerf. vyse is already really weak, and it's not like her buffs are going to make her amazing either. why just remove possible setups from a sentinel player? I mean that's kind of the whole reason people like sentinel is because they can nerd out over setups, it really seems like they just nerfed her because they can
keeoh you should play fortnite ballistic with your friends, see how its like compared to valorant
i do like buying stuff but i'm poor
i just realized how much vp u have goddam
i hate the ping change honestly
I think they need to make neon's ult last 15 seconds and give her those 2 slides. The counter of being less accurate AND getting slowed by vyse thorns is already a nerf enough.
Sunset in general is just a really bad map for vyse the map her kit really shines on is something like bind or abyss
call it cope but valorant is an rng check with the constant bullet inaccuracy in play and the fact that run and gun is still usable. I genuinely think neon got nerfed way too hard, but neon can't be buffed too much either otherwise it's senseless and braindead. Neon is a broken agent either way
yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lmao it could've easily been solved by just adding bullet inaccuracy decrease the time to like min 15 seconds and increased an ult point
What they chose to do put neon into the ground where u have almost 0 utility to enter coz if u grt stuck u only have a single slide so she cannot do shitshe doesnt have updraft or satchels which could put her into the air to avoid trips or some shit so 2 slides is perfectly calid she aint a skill agent anymore or a movement duelist she is useless now lmao
Nice
keeoh, PLEASE play fortnite ballistic
W video
do you do acting? i swear to god ive seen your face before in some movie
nvm...i just remembered the name: josh hutchersonv whistle
Love from india
Hope to see your fornite vid
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L ping update
Nooooooooooooooooo I main neon boooooooooooooo
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is the thumbnail supposed to be click bait? cuz you got me
before nerf : STRAIGHT LASERS
after nerf : STAR WARS STORMTROPPERS
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One thing i love doing when playing as vyse is try to put my wall somewhere where i can single out somebody behind the wall and they cant help the teammate (such as reyna clearing an area). Example pearl's a site to the left where the wall is long enough to trap someone in there. 🤣🤣
Just imagine a reyna pushed onto site and then got caught behind that wall and just screams to their teammate "I'M STUCK I'M STUCK" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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