Guess The Elo CHEATER BANNED?! (#42)
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Guess The Elo Cheater BANNED
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0:42 Game 1
8:40 Game 2
18:48 Game 3
24:50 Game 4
31:17 Final Game
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The cheater guy explained his move like when the teacher calls on you and you haven’t read the book
He literally would’ve been fine if he just said “I hung it”
My exact thoughts!
Had he said I hallucinated that a6 wins a piece for black, I panicked and played Qb3 while completely forgetting that my Bishop is hanging I would have believed him. Especially because he played a bunch of moves in that game that weren't top stock fish moves. But his answer as to why he played Qb3 just dig him even deeper.
It's not like this stream is why he was banned, but he's a 1000 rated player, he definitely could've gotten away with a "got tunnel vision".
@@Kaanfight But then he wouldn't be able to take credit for the move, which is, i guess, what cheaters are after
@@smrtfasizmu6161 exactly. If he said "oh forgot I have a bishop" I would be like "same bro". But he defending the move is an instant tell
So glad b6 sponsored this! You're a very lucky man, Levy.
idk man a6 is much better than whatever b6 is
Yeah I'm really proud.
@@articuno_3168 nice job
@UCHOIgx-4gpcRelyjJJKQlxg welcome.
He wanted c6 tho
Gotham sub: does literally anything
Levy: "This is how you know you are below the four digits"
Playing like a stupid international master
Im all for this type of joke, Levy can go crazy flagrant out of nowhere, so I’m on this train to make his random brutality a meme
@@HnTr_VDH he's just being dramatic for humors sake. I think he's quite funny 🤷
Don’t forget when you made a bad move:
Took long time: you took THAT LONG to think and you STILL HANGED A PIECE?!?!
Took short time: THIS is why you should think before you move, THINK, *THINK*
@@Firefly256 Exactly! In fact, Ithink I commented something similar in another GTE video
I need a super cut of Gotham saying “this is the worst game I’ve ever seen.”
It’s funny how each GTE episode contains one of the worst games Levy has ever seen in his life
@@nickjohnson8495 It keeps getting worse every episode
👍
Every game is worse than the last.
I want a supercut of him calling something a "gangster move".
If this guy just said he miscklicked no one would've thought they cheated lmao
Or if he said tunnel vision I would have believed it
He should have said I hallucinated that a6 wins a piece for black, I panicked and played Qb3 while completely forgetting that my Bishop is hanging. I would believe that explanation especially because he played a bunch of moves in that game that weren't top stock fish moves. But his answer as to why he played Qb3 just dig him even deeper.
I played many sacrifices in my life, but rarely did I play such a quiet move as a sacrifice, where I am not even sacrificing by smashing my piece into the opponents territory into the pawns in front of the king, I am not even leaving my piece hanging by moving forward. This sac wasn't like that, this is a backwards queen move which leaves a piece en prise, and it is a backwards move because you want to transfer your queen on another side of the board, I mean it is just ridiculous and it is not even like he had a lot of piece into the attack, the attack simply worked even without putting bunch of your pieces in the position to attack the enemy King. I played over 10k games, so I don't remember them all but I would not be surprised if I have never played a sacrifice like this.
Yeah but the kind of people that cheat like this do so because they are ridiculously narcissistic and want people to think they are just an incredible player. He submitted a game he cheated in because he wanted praise. These are the worst kinds of people. Then the next guy just made 2 accounts to play himself. And the next one was definitely just smurfing and botez gambiting like he thinks he's hikaru or something lol bunch of cornballs in the gte
@@DeadSezSo Praise means nothing if you know you didn't play the game legitimately. Praise only matters if it is for something that you have done. Even if he tricks others, he knows he didn't play the game legitimately. I don't buy your explanation. Maybe that's me projecting how I think on others but I don't see how others praising you would make you feel good if you know that they are praising you for something that you haven't actually done. If he wanted praise he would have sent some of the games that he played legitimately and that he played well (assuming he plays some games legitimately in the first place, if he doesn't then I don't know how he is rated only 1000).
Gotham:"NEVER take the white bishop here!"
Leela: "It's the best move though"
Sometimes engines think that if you don't take it, after the "best line" the opponent would have a 0.1 advantage, as oppossed to forcing a draw on move 15 where it's an even zero. But why even play chess at that point?
@@pairot01 lmao if u could play at this level, u would play for money lol to be chess millionaire doing paid simuls against like 1000 ppl etc while being WC and all around champion and the only human who can compete with engines, you would be playing to be a millionaire dude. And don't even say u won't 🦝
@@gaming2top759 This is what my dreams look like.
No, its the second best move
@@SWhit294. "um actually, it's the second best move ☝🤓"
As a 1000 player I knew he was underestimating the crap out of that first game. 1300 players blunder full pieces all the time in 5 min games.
As a 1352 rapid, I can confirm 1300s blunder tactics.
Dawg I'm a 1700 I'm still blundering mates and bishops
Dude I played a 2000 in a rapid tournament the other day who had me on the ropes for 30 moves (I'm 1500) and then just hung a rook in 1 move. I still lost because I was in huge time trouble but it just shows that even properly high rated players blunder badly from time to time.
As a 1000 rated player, I agree with you. It's honesty pretty aggravating, watching him demean decently rated players. Not everyone is an IM.
@@ethangonzales5944 He demeans himself just as much as he does anyone else. That's just his style of humour.
My favorite part: when that guy said "felt right because activity, space"
If I was him I would say it felt right but I didnt see the bishop hanging and that would be a good reason since that's a move I would play ngl
@@MIDO44444 i would say that i was trying to make a cannon on the diagonal and thought i hung a bishop
@@MIDO44444 No 1000 would understand or grasp the concept of sacrificing the bishop to preserve a strong attack. I doubt they’re even sure that the bishop sac is good and calculate all those lines so intuitively for a lower rated player it’s best to play safe and retreat the bishop of course.
@@faznaz7455 yeah but trying to make a strong attack and *overlooking* the bishop is a thing 1000s do
he should have said, time, pace and harmony then I would have believed him
Its nice to see Gotham get sponsored by moves that arent e4 or d4 once in a while
h4
The recap at 17:06 shows Qb3 took almost 3 minutes. While the rest took significantly less.
My man ran stockfish on 50 depth to find a 1 brilliant move in the game for content.
this is the proof i was looking for, if played quickly then even if he tries to say he did it intentionally it was a mistake for sure
Winner takes 6-8 seconds on every move.
Levy and commenters: Cheater!
Winner takes almost 3 minutes and makes a good move.
Levy and commenters: Cheater!
@@rosiefay7283 Lmao the every in the first one is rather important don't you think. Even when there is one legal move or one move that doesn't immediately hang your queen if you spend a couple seconds on it, the same as you spend on every move, you are cheating. Either you really are braindead or just intentionally are arguing in bad faith, couple seconds every move is cheating as fuck.
@@rosiefay7283 both of the scenarios are sus.
@@MrQinchen I mean I have gone to the bathroom during a match
2:20 "The bishop pinned the queen to the king with no protection what so ever."
Of course the bishop is against protection when the queen is pinned to the king. What would you expect?
Hahahahaha underrated comment
@@joelovedaymusic8385 severely lmao
Brilliant xD
!! Stock fish gives this comment a +65 advantage
@@GolfClash2718 +69 actually
Levy- "I've never gone full screen in a Guess the Elo"
Also Levy- Goes full lscreen in just about every Guess The Elo
Could you imagine cheating in low ELO and losing
It like losing in cod with aimbot
It’s like losing in a racing game even though you messed with the stats of the car and have an unfair advantage
It’s like losing a bedwars game with auto clicker
It’s like losing a boxing match with brass knuckles
it's like fishing on the ice for several hours just to not eat it
What do you think Lucy thinks levy is up to at 5:11… do you think she hears that and thinks “oh, he must be filming another guess the Elo!”
Yeah if there was a black screen here Id think he was watching something else
Qb3 in that position is the biggest engine move I've ever seen. "It felt right."
Yeah. Okay. LOL
There are other suspicions, but idk if it DOES feel like the biggest engine move - there are worse ones. As a 1600 rapid Qb3 feels risky at first glance with potentially interesting chances, because the black king already can't move back to f2, and exf5 opens up the g-file for the Queen, with potential gxf5 f4 Rg1 Qg3 threats. I might've spent time calculating it during a rapid game trying to see if I could make it work. That being said, I don't think I'd have gone through with it.
The weird thing here is a 1000 seeing that, and if they actually did see it, they wouldn't be giving such a vague "activity/space" as an answer lol. And the juxtaposition of being able to play moves like Qb3 (and Ne5 in the opening), but then playing Bg5 instead of d6 potentially followed by f4 which was far more obvious and would have completely shut down the kingside and kept the King in the open.
@@Kernel15I'm a 1500, and I won't play Qb3. (Unless I accidentally hung my bishop)
If I were to sacrifice my bishop, probably Rg1 instead of Qb3. Looks more interesting after exf4 gxf4, opening up the g file for the rook.
(That is just from glancing the board.)
@@Abedchess That's definitely fair, but that being said, you're not doing anything with just a rook on the open g file. You'd still need another attacker over, and the Queen is the fastest
@@Kernel15 Yes, had he actually seen anything, he would have said I want to put my queen on the g file after my opponent accepts my Bishop sac. But even if he said that Levy would be like wtf an 1000s didn't just do that.
@@smrtfasizmu6161 Yeah, a suspicious game overall. Felt either assisted or sandbagged
"How good are you at endgame? Come on, rook all the way down you know it"
White : makes the ideal move
Gotham : *starts making aggressive primal satisfaction noises*
Brother?
3:15 This is actually theory. It's the mid game bongcloud.
Hikaru must be proud
the disrespect tho
"You're used to finishing in 3 minutes" got me rolling lmao
"maybe both sets of parents shouldve used protection"
I love how that guy just straight up outed himself by trying to defend Qb3 lol
No 1000 rated player would play that move unless they had a deep understanding of the consequences that followed and there are a lot of interesting lines that had to be calculated. The actual reasoning itself is complicated so it’s funny when a cheater tries to articulate the reasoning behind their moves.
He's a cheater, so the main thing he wants is attention and merit. He would have never said it was "luck".
@@faznaz7455 Many 1000 rated players would play that move, not because it's a really strong move but because they would've forgotten that the bishop was under attack and tunnel visioned on attacking. His reasoning was what was sus as f
but it seemed right! :^)
@@TromboneMaster95 exactly. Had he said “I forgor 💀” like a normal person, it wouldn’t have been Sus at all. It’s interesting that cheaters never try to make themselves look dumb, only trying to say “oh yeah I’m very smart” which puts them. Interesting stuff.
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why and how
@@meenasamaan481 hi mena
@@ColtBTD6 hi colt how are you? i got top 100% last race thanks to your guide!
Well except for the cheater
I can never escape Colt BTD6. They gets here before I do because of their race technique.
I’m so happy that B6 finally sponsored you man, congrats on being popular enough for them to reach out to you
i hope he starts a b6 giveaway!
Ahh yes b6 is the best sponsor for this vid and it also is a solid opening from one of our gotham fams !
That feeling when u wait 25 games, submit a game with what u think is a “legendary karpovian king walk”, and u basically get sh** on. Lol!
rip
They were drunk for sure, the person knew the game was terrible
Cheater game at 8:42 and explanation at 17:45
found your comment finally ty
Thanks
“Never want to do this again”.. 40 episodes later😂
Parents: Are you still watching Netflix
Someone's daughter: 4:59, 5:11
OMG .. that player who submitted his first game ever .. classic!
His answer to why he improved shoulda been something like "I watched John Bartholomew's chess fundamentals series " lol
I bought the anish giri course
it sucks that everyone still thought the game was fake. it's probably the first time someone submitted their first game to guess the elo and no one believed him
"I guess you're used to finishing in less than 3 minutes but come on." Ouch.
4:58 when he said that i felt it
You should've seen my friend literally learning how pieces move against me, losing 10 games in a row and then play 3 games flawless all of the sudden 👀
Same thing with me. I was much better than this one person, but then they suddenly pulled out multiple flawless games in a row where I stood no chance. Im a 1600 lol. I am still suspicious
was it online or onboard?
@@xooox_1777 online. Cheating in an offline game without me noticing would be pretty impressive
@@yannick2075 oh then pretty sus, does he have like a mild delay? because bots sometimes take time to make a move
@@xooox_1777 i guess so, but he was definitely cheating. Played again some time ago and he'd start blundering pieces for nothing again :P
5:17 pretty sure Levy just came a little from that rook move, I mean, that noise from his reaction was a little too sus
I like how Twitch chat just constantly "taunts" youtube over not having music, when I can literally pull up any song recorded in human history and listen to it at any moment, because thankfully there is no music included in the video.
my favorite quote:
"This move is sponsored by, b6"
Levy Rosman 2022
"Maybe both kings should use protection"
just played a game where my opponent resigned on turn 6 because he lost the center
LMAO
My opponent resigned early because he was premoving the opening and ended up hanging his bishop because of that
33:34 Carlsen vs Nakamura in Round 3 of the Zurich 2014. Nakamura had a winning position against Carlsen, blundered on move 37 with a pawn push that looked very powerful but gave away all the advantage, simplified to an endgame where Nakamura was up a Knight but down five Pawns, 6 to 1. It was too many Pawns and Nakamura lost, from a position where he was more than +8.
13:40 Gotham: Hates the move because it hangs a bishop Stockfish: Its literally best move
👍
Levy is the Gordon Ramsey of the chess world in these videos.
Every time Levy says "It's your favorite show on UA-cam," I for a half-second think, "Sweet, I love How to Lose at Chess," and then I remember I clicked on a Guess the Elo video.
Same
I was just watching an older GTE in which you said no one has ever gotten banned because if GTE. Guess the streak is over 🤣
I once played my grandpa as a 600 and realised in the end that I capture no pawns despite being equal pieces. The amount of embarrassment I felt was immeasurable, later that day I won having one Pawn while he had 7 (never won again until I reached 1450)
33:52 computer understands that BMimg your opponent by underpromoting is technically a better move than just making a queen, due to the psychological effects
Congrats for being a GM officially Levy, you deserved it. Thanks for your vids as well, i just had my longest winning streak which was 14.
April fool's day is over man XD
Levy from previous vid: I'm a GM now
Levy in this vid: I'm an IM
Oof, tragic.
Stream recorded before he was granted the title lmao
@@kingkrispy5289 he's not a gm lmfao
@@tito9107 exactly :trollge:
@@kingkrispy5289 r/sharksaresmooth
@@tito9107 don’t you reddit me
"I guess you're used to finishing in 3 minutes" how did he know 😔
qb3 is so amazing. investing in those 3 pawns, primarily the e pawn, investing in the f5 square, its a wonderful sacrifice for only the best of play-- oh he's a 1000.
That last game broke my heart. Checking with the wrong rook because there is no mate, you just have to sinplify to a winning endgame. Chess is brutal.
20:45 Can't. Stop. Laughing. Gotham Chess in real time, killing it/me
I love b6! Its the first move in the e6 b6 course which is very helpful.
5:25 chess when your parents walk into the room
Man, the giraffes are wobbling SO HARD this episode.
8:35 The camera isn't tilted, it's Levy that's tilted... Haha
these cheaters are everywhere. if only we had some kind of dark knight who could bring them to justice...
*cue Hanz Zimmer*
Such as that guy from Gotham City?
Batmen
To defend gotham city chess boards
you have b8 and g8 for that lul
Imagine submitting your cheated game to someone who knows how to spot cheaters and acting like they’re not gonna notice.
I love the guy at 16:31 who happens to have the username Waterphall
"you called?" lmfao i'm glad someone noticed that
Ratings really change between playing time limits. I hate when my opponents resign in a 5 minute game when they loose their Queen early. Hay there is lots of time for me to screw up and loose mine as well! I'm also used to loosing my queen so playing without one is normal for me. I will almost always trade Queens.
That final game reminds me of myself so much xD
I win super hard but then blunder something major and barely draw
Whenever I lose a game, I watch one of these to remember that my game was not this bad. Thank you, gotham!
Love the content mate! Please can you do more rating climbs using the same opening each time.
I think the queen hang was a premove error. I know in bullet I often try to premove pawn recapture but instead end up premoving pawn forward one square lol
Good point. 👍
I was so convinced it's Hikaru during the Botez Gambit speedrun. 😁
Round of applause for b6 for sponsoring this vid. They killed it
I am glad to sponsor you ❤️
Nice one dude 😂
12:12 i laughed more than i should
I'm starting to think being shown on Levy's stream is a deathwish.
212th day of translating Levy's titles into Neapolitan: "Nu 'mbruglion e indovin l'elo bannat"
oh wow
Very brave of that cheater to submit their cheating game to Gotham, who is known for hunting cheaters down and beating them with his bare fists.
You have bear fists?
Dude really had Levy convinced it wasn't cheating and then he kept talking and outted himself
I love how this video is sponsored by a move
I’m stuck on a 12 hour weekend shift at work. Thank you for content!
👍
going through a rough breakup today, and these videos help. thank you for the content
Most newer players will say "it felt right" on moves that are weird af, a new player might really like a random battery
But I wouldn't have caught him cheating, the response is alot like most of the people I teach chess despite the insaneness of the move
Lol! The whole “it seemed right”, “activity”, “space”, when u basically blunder into a brilliancy, really had me laughing.
He didn't blunder into brillancy, he checked Stockfish..
3:40 im 1600 and would move the queen without a 2nd thought
Im 1900 and would do the same
@@BlackPandaz420 so appearantly under 1000 would not see the queen attack while above 2000 would be the one who block with a pawn
“Waterfall, grapefruit” - Levy, 2022
The troll right there before the edit. He did that ONLY bc Twitch has been going nuts to try and find out😂😂😂😂
0:36 😮Todays video is brought to you by the square B-6 and the letter W.
I Can't wait till Snuffleupagus and big bird tell us how the horsey moves.
Tomorrow we go to the factory to learn how Crayons are made! 😮
Aaaand this video is sponsored by B6
You will never know how this got 4k likes💀
chess course?
I’ll have your entire stock.
B3 is better
Thank you.
Kings Indian or just fianchetto opening?
the last game actually broke my heart
"Rook all the way down, you know this" - *cue excited Levy noises*
"You're just gonna have to watch and see." - Levy Rozman, 2022
I need to submit one of my funniest games against my friend, we played against each other 6 times and he accidentally blundered the queen every time
This had me laughing so hard I started crying
19:23 This move actually isnt bad in this instance. White could've gone to b6 forking the rook and bishop, forcing black to move the rook to a7 because a6 is covered by the bishop. Then white plays d8 forking the queen and the rook and when the queen moves white takes the rook. So this could've been a brilliant move, although being 600 that probably wasn't going to be played.
Actually after Knight b6 black could’ve just take the bishop and after white take the rook it would be trapped in the corner. If white take c8 instead of rook then black play Qc7, again, trapping the Knight.
I saw all that
i love your vids levy you're what got me back into chess keep up the great content!
There was this one game i once played and i feel like it traumatized me because thinking about it makes me want to cry. I was up a rook, bishop, and like 5 pawns and i still managed to lose
25:31 absolutely live how he took a few seconds to process it and then said what
"I thought Qb3 was a nice move" I want to slap that guy he didn't even understand that is was to open the g file hahaahaha
I'm a 1500, and if I wanted to sacrifice my bishop, Rg1 looks more reasonable than Qb3 at a glance.
I probably would never play Qb3 even if I wanted to sacrifice my bishop
@@Abedchess Qb3 is reasonable because you want your queen to get on g3
@@kbk239 Yea I understand why Qb3 is reasonable.
I'm just saying that purely looking at the position, the first move ( to sac the bishop) which comes to my mind is Rg1.
I would probably have missed Qb3.
@@kbk239 i.e Rg1 is more intuitive than Qb3.
Even though Qb3 is objectively better, Qb3 is harder to see than Rg1.
Game 3 I laughed soo much at hanging rooks the other way.
top engine lines
22:05 why would you resign here? Looks like a forced draw to me. Attack the knight with the king, then attack the bishop with the king when the knight moves. If the opponent's pawn gets too close, take it. If the opponent's king gets close enough to stop you from taking the knight, play c4, c5, cxb6+, win the bishop, Kb8, a8=Q just as your opponent promotes, and queen vs. queen is always a draw as long as you don't hang something. If the opponent takes your c-pawn it's stalemate.
Edit: Never mind, apparently Nd7 just wins. I tried the position against stockfish, and Nd7 prevents the king from returning to b8, then the Black king and the knight can force you even farther from the bishop through zugzwang, and it's actually like -57. Still, I think it takes a lower rating to see the defense strategy I suggested than to see how to stop it, and in any case as long as you have a plan to try to swindle the game, you should still force your opponent to earn the win. Even when I'm dead lost, I usually only resign in two situations: 1) I'm pressed for time (as in I need to go do something else soon), don't see a way my opponent can blunder the win away and don't see a way that my opponent can end the game quickly, or 2) I don't have a plan, not even a "shuffle my king and hope to get stalemated" and continuing to play is no fun anymore.
I really wish more people found checkmating people actually satisfying instead of getting insulted when the opponent doesn't resign. Like, I get it if you resign when you're down twenty pieces, but at the same time I find checkmating extremely satisfying, it's good endgame practice, and I figure if you didn't resign when you were dead lost and it was mate in two, why resign when it's mate in one?
lining up the queen and bishop to cut the king off would be the only reasonable answer. They damned themselves by saying "it just seemed right". they spent almost 3 minutes on that move and the reasoning is "it just seemed right".
they literally could've said they forgot about the hanging bishop
I know Levy says some outrageous things but 2:20 was on another level 😂
35:56 was crazy too 😂
Levys disappointment in the submissions never fails
looking at the position when both the knight and bishop were attack there was a way to get out with equal material on the 3rd game knight to b6 threatening the rook, if rook move out of the way take the black bishop threaten the queen and then pull your bishop away. horse may be stuck after that but you traded knight for one of the black bishop.
I know I saw it
Watching Levy slap that guy around for saying take out the staged game was hilarious. I need a compilation of all the times he’s just verbally assaulted someone in chat 😂
The third game made me laugh a lot!! Even if it was fake I laughed!!
Finally another Guess The Elo to keep my sanity intact!
Levy’s first GTE as GM
Levy moaning about chess moves is one of the funniest things ever
The 4th game felt like Hikaru doing a Botez Gambit and proceeding to utterly humiliate the random noob
I am convinced that it was a smurf who was giving odds, a3 is way too ridiculous, a3 gives up the Queen 2 different ways because it undefends the Queen as well and it is a move near the Queen, maiking sure that opponents focus will remain on that part of the board so that it is guaranteed the opponent would take the Queen.
I also thought it's from the Botez Gambit speedrun.
In another comment someone said it might have been a mouseslip while premoving a pawn recapture after offering a queen trade.