Great stuff. I kinda leaned the adapter to make room for the screws and all....made it work but nice to see how the owner does it. Really cool product.
When I installed mine I separated the top and bottom plates of both the front adapter and the rail adapter, mounted the top to the deck and the bottom to the trucks then put them back together after. A lot easier than fiddling around with your fingers between the plates trying to thread the bolts with minimal clearance.
My tip for set-up: reverse the rear trucks around. It adds a ton of stability and grip through corners or while carving, and especially at very high speeds, while losing little if any in maneuverability. Waterborne adapters are amazing and I feel this takes best advantage of them for an even better ride. On the front of my boards I also use a Major Arc truck to get even more steering agility and control, and usually a RKP in rear with the rail adapter, but the truck flipped to turn with the front; with stiff bushings the truck only leans about 20 degrees full swing while the rails allow the front adapter to do its job, still allowing you to make very tight turns easily.
This hack has been floating around the surfskate subreddit: You can install the screws and nut which connects the truck and the rail adapter (roadside) the opposite way in order to achieve the same wheelbase as the deck holes, without hitting the hardware on the boardside.
If you have a short board and don't want to shorten the wheelbase like me and are using TKP trucks, flip the rail adapter top plate and while it's apart mount the truck with the supplied bolts the opposite way to the instructions. As long as your bolts mounting the rail adapter to the board don't protrude too much you'll get all the clearance you need especially as the Phillips head bolts on the top plate have a very low profile. Bingo now go enjoy this awesome product 🤙
I wouldn't recommend sending slightly longer screws for the back side that comes with the spacers because there's no squish mine barely fit only a little over halfway through the nut
Got it, pivot cup out! (camera pans right as the protagonist puts on a wrestler's helmet. He runs to his opponent who is also dressed to wrestle, kicks him in the nuts saying "pivot cup out!" The groin protector, shot into space like some sort of anime over exaggerated motion, you can hear in the distance. "Team rocket blasting off again".
With TKP and the rail adaptor - On a traditional street deck *popsicle - my wB is already short @ 14 inch, the rail adaptor shortens it by an inch..so that's too short already--By flipping the adaptor reverse I am able to achieve a 15inch wheel base, an extension by 1 inch...this wasn't discussed - Any issues with this?
My Penny pintail longboard RKP truck holes don’t line up with the front adapter, I can see through the holes but they are not central enough to get a bolt through. Would you recommend drilling the trucks or the adapter ?
I tried with Waterborne. At first, I thought it was more turny and a great idea. After a solid year on long distance cruises, it was found to be too heavy, and as my skills grew and I was able to turn tighter on a RPK or TKP truck,the setup became obsolete and many months after dismantling the setup, I would never consider it again.
@@brunoleao8879 I really like both. I have RPK Paris V3 165mm and 9 inch Ace Af-1 for TKP. I switch back and forth. The RPK may pump a little fater over long distance by a slight margin. Asides from trucks, I found custom bushings in the rail adapter and Orangutang Nipples in the Paris trucks a good upgrade. Finally, I find the perfect wheelbase and deck a huge factor for feet, locking in, etc. In fact, I believe the right deck is more important than the right truck(that is, as long as the width of truck is adequate). Long answer to a short question. Hope it helps!
@@kelchuk2 not a long answer man, but the BEST and mos complete answer people around YT gave me here. Thanks A LOT. Last question, what kind of deck do u use and which duro do u use on the otangs?
My favorite deck is Black Label Jason Adam's with an extra set of holes towards the front of the deck for the front truck. It barely has enough room but works.. I change wheels from time to time. My favorite is Carver Roundhouse 78a Concave because they grip excellent and have a nice slip. I have Otang Stimulus 86a that work good on decent roads and slide easy, but less grip for practicing tight turns like roundhouse cutbacks.
I'm 60 yrs old and went from Ripsurfing to Surfskating, putting the Waterborne adaptor on one of my son's skateboards. Now I'm wondering if anybody has tried 2 adaptors on the same board - ie - front and back??
Wouldn't work. The principle of a surfskate is a stable rear combined with a swiveling front. Doesn't work without a stable rear. See trucks like Revenge, Hamboards, Gullwing Sidewinders.
@@SurfskateLove OK, you're the expert and I researched those other trucks you mentioned - especially your review of the Gullwing Sidewinders. But, a Ripsurfer works without a stable back end, and I'm wondering if 2 Waterborne adapters would be the same?? Yes it would be "tippy" but so is a Ripsurfer. I actually prefer Ripsurfing, but the back wheel wears out too fast, and if you hit a decent sized pebble you go flying. But the motion of a Ripsurfer is much closer to surfing a small 3 fin thruster than a Surfskate. A surfskate is more like surfing and old single fin!!
Bro this is the first stated after that I got and every single adapter I got afterwards was better than this one and I was watching this video just now trying to maybe gain some insight into what I did wrong & realized it was him!
@@SurfskateLove not on this one, but I have on another setup, they were from a weird Indiana boards setup (Swiss skateboard from the early 00's) - a kind of hybrid slalom board. It's worth trying!
Great stuff. I kinda leaned the adapter to make room for the screws and all....made it work but nice to see how the owner does it. Really cool product.
When I installed mine I separated the top and bottom plates of both the front adapter and the rail adapter, mounted the top to the deck and the bottom to the trucks then put them back together after. A lot easier than fiddling around with your fingers between the plates trying to thread the bolts with minimal clearance.
Agree with rail adapter. 100%
Cool! Good to meet the owner! Epic invention! Thoroughly enjoying mine
Thank you! Stoked that you're loving your Surf Adapter!
@@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 🤙😊
It's amazing to see both Patrick and Steve in the same video! I've somehow missed this one! 👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙
Got this surf adaptador front and rear, for my 42" double deck, and im lovin it.
This is great! Nice to find this vid. I’m waiting to have my adapters delivered by Amazon to Costa Rica 🇨🇷
i just ordered my wtrbrne set ...great guys
My tip for set-up: reverse the rear trucks around. It adds a ton of stability and grip through corners or while carving, and especially at very high speeds, while losing little if any in maneuverability. Waterborne adapters are amazing and I feel this takes best advantage of them for an even better ride. On the front of my boards I also use a Major Arc truck to get even more steering agility and control, and usually a RKP in rear with the rail adapter, but the truck flipped to turn with the front; with stiff bushings the truck only leans about 20 degrees full swing while the rails allow the front adapter to do its job, still allowing you to make very tight turns easily.
This hack has been floating around the surfskate subreddit:
You can install the screws and nut which connects the truck and the rail adapter (roadside) the opposite way in order to achieve the same wheelbase as the deck holes, without hitting the hardware on the boardside.
If you have a short board and don't want to shorten the wheelbase like me and are using TKP trucks, flip the rail adapter top plate and while it's apart mount the truck with the supplied bolts the opposite way to the instructions. As long as your bolts mounting the rail adapter to the board don't protrude too much you'll get all the clearance you need especially as the Phillips head bolts on the top plate have a very low profile. Bingo now go enjoy this awesome product 🤙
when in doubt, pivots out!
I wouldn't recommend sending slightly longer screws for the back side that comes with the spacers because there's no squish mine barely fit only a little over halfway through the nut
As a general rule the pivot cup always goes out.
very sketch if not out... I learned the hard way the first time I used tkps lol😅
Pivot cup... That the one you don't screw in right. The one without the bolt?
Got it, pivot cup out! (camera pans right as the protagonist puts on a wrestler's helmet. He runs to his opponent who is also dressed to wrestle, kicks him in the nuts saying "pivot cup out!" The groin protector, shot into space like some sort of anime over exaggerated motion, you can hear in the distance. "Team rocket blasting off again".
@@ReallyNo.01 the hanger is inserted into the pivot cup that's inserted into the base plate of the truck assembly.
@@ReallyNo.01 you got a laugh out of me
Awesome & Thanks :)
With TKP and the rail adaptor - On a traditional street deck *popsicle - my wB is already short @ 14 inch, the rail adaptor shortens it by an inch..so that's too short already--By flipping the adaptor reverse I am able to achieve a 15inch wheel base, an extension by 1 inch...this wasn't discussed - Any issues with this?
We do discuss this. Skip to 8:16
My Penny pintail longboard RKP truck holes don’t line up with the front adapter, I can see through the holes but they are not central enough to get a bolt through. Would you recommend drilling the trucks or the adapter ?
I'm not sure. I would reach out to Waterborne.
I got an adapter for my electric longboard and it doesn't fit any of my reverse kingpin trucks, even the non stock spare trucks i have
The back rail adaptor makes my trucks noisy. I tried it on many board and it is the same.
And how would it feel with a pair of gullwing sidewinder 2?
Which bushings they use in the rail adapter?
I tried with Waterborne. At first, I thought it was more turny and a great idea. After a solid year on long distance cruises, it was found to be too heavy, and as my skills grew and I was able to turn tighter on a RPK or TKP truck,the setup became obsolete and many months after dismantling the setup, I would never consider it again.
@@kelchuk2 ooow…I see. Thanks s lot, man. Btw, which do you prefer with waterborne system, rkp or tkp, both rear and front or do you mix them up?
@@brunoleao8879 I really like both. I have RPK Paris V3 165mm and 9 inch Ace Af-1 for TKP. I switch back and forth. The RPK may pump a little fater over long distance by a slight margin. Asides from trucks, I found custom bushings in the rail adapter and Orangutang Nipples in the Paris trucks a good upgrade. Finally, I find the perfect wheelbase and deck a huge factor for feet, locking in, etc. In fact, I believe the right deck is more important than the right truck(that is, as long as the width of truck is adequate). Long answer to a short question. Hope it helps!
@@kelchuk2 not a long answer man, but the BEST and mos complete answer people around YT gave me here. Thanks A LOT. Last question, what kind of deck do u use and which duro do u use on the otangs?
My favorite deck is Black Label Jason Adam's with an extra set of holes towards the front of the deck for the front truck. It barely has enough room but works.. I change wheels from time to time. My favorite is Carver Roundhouse 78a Concave because they grip excellent and have a nice slip. I have Otang Stimulus 86a that work good on decent roads and slide easy, but less grip for practicing tight turns like roundhouse cutbacks.
I'm 60 yrs old and went from Ripsurfing to Surfskating, putting the Waterborne adaptor on one of my son's skateboards.
Now I'm wondering if anybody has tried 2 adaptors on the same board - ie - front and back??
Wouldn't work. The principle of a surfskate is a stable rear combined with a swiveling front. Doesn't work without a stable rear. See trucks like Revenge, Hamboards, Gullwing Sidewinders.
@@SurfskateLove OK, you're the expert and I researched those other trucks you mentioned - especially your review of the Gullwing Sidewinders.
But, a Ripsurfer works without a stable back end, and I'm wondering if 2 Waterborne adapters would be the same??
Yes it would be "tippy" but so is a Ripsurfer.
I actually prefer Ripsurfing, but the back wheel wears out too fast, and if you hit a decent sized pebble you go flying. But the motion of a Ripsurfer is much closer to surfing a small 3 fin thruster than a Surfskate. A surfskate is more like surfing and old single fin!!
Soooooo....what if I put my CX trucks on these?
It would be way too much motion and lean, and would therefore be very unstable. The Waterborne already has a deep dive lean.
Bro this is the first stated after that I got and every single adapter I got afterwards was better than this one and I was watching this video just now trying to maybe gain some insight into what I did wrong & realized it was him!
thx
Anyone could tell me if the front adapter is adjustable as some spring bases surf adapters? Thnx
No, the Waterborne is not adjustable.
@@SurfskateLove thanxxx
how would this fit on a Meepo V4S ER E skateboard?
No idea.
Any experience of using a wedge riser for a tkp rear truck with this setup?
Nope. You?
@@SurfskateLove not on this one, but I have on another setup, they were from a weird Indiana boards setup (Swiss skateboard from the early 00's) - a kind of hybrid slalom board. It's worth trying!
Work with drop thru deck?
Yep! www.reddit.com/r/surfskate/comments/s61rd7/waterborne_adapter_on_drop_through_board_or_small/