Larios. Let me answer this this way. It is a pro horn but the sound with stock resos is not as bright as many non classical players would like It also takes getting used to when going from the lower to upper octave. Many players leave the right hand down when going to and from the d2. on a regular sax the note is a c sharp. On the rationale it is a c. This is the same body as the Leblanc version except thier are screw adjustments to regulate on the Leblanc.
Neat horn, I wish we could see the cool engraving better. My buddy plays a Vito, the older ones are nice little horns. Some have fantastic etchwork on the bell. Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks a lot for your help and all the info about this saxophone, I was just thinking about buying it cause well I like Johny Hodges style and it's a nice Sax and different but also I have a Conn New Wonder Series I so I'm thinking about it hahaha still not taken a decision... Also my granfather gave me an Alto Grassi from Italy is like a Selmer I don't know if you know this brand, but it needs an overhaul. what would you recommend me as a musician and technician? the Conn or the Vito?
Thanks for shining some light of this fine and overlooked horn! Apparently someone is working on getting another Boehm system saxophone in production. I think the company is called Voyager, based out of Renton, Washington. It's posted on neosax(dot)com. A G# articulation bar on a NWI seems like it would put a load on the C#, which doesn't have a lot of leverage on that particular model. Strong fingers required.
I think that the reason that the horn ended were the following 1) It was difficult for techs to learn to repair 2) While it allows many more fingerings some things that many players would do do not transfer 3) Too expensive to make a student horn so beginners could learn 4) It was marketed to a classical audience. I used to change the resos to a dome style and oversize the resos. It gives the horn more balls. Good luck to you, Ted.
If you like Johnny Hodges sound you will like either sax that you mention.Hodges played a vito as you say. As a retired tech I can tell you that when it needs adjustment it is different than any other sax and takes time to get right. They do keep regulation well though. Let me give a better example with fingering. Let's say I am going from a to d repeatedly. On all other saxes I can leave f,e, and d key down on the a. If you do this on the vito it will play g sharp to d.
Larios. If you overhaul the wonder series one have a tech solder a bar behind the g sharp key to modernize the table . I did this all the time when I repaired. The Grassi horn is a student horn. Getzen imported them for sale in the us. The sound is very good for an inexpensive horn. It sounds to me like It sounds like you are on a buget and overhauling the vito will be expensive.Good luck to you.
Thanks a lot for your time and very helpful informtation I really got it and well the Vito I've got is serial number #2253A so I think is on the 3000 Vitos that you told me they made right? Some people think they are not professional cause some are assemble in nogales but I've found there are couple model 35 Vitos with the other Vito logo that is just Horizontal on top of the bell I think that are the Student Vito one's made in Nogales not this one with Vertical Vito logo in all the Bell.
:o Ohh I see so I can take this as my main and professional horn? :D well I was just searching some info and pictures I think the prices I payed is good for it, and well I like the kind of different system the "Leblanc System" because I can play normal or with the extra notes right? the only thing I found on websites is that this saxophones are difficult to adjust is that true? or that's for the Leblanc Rationale models? and this ones are not so difficult, also I found a model 35 of Johny Hodges
The Vito version was marketed as a student horn by Leblanc. They invested a lot in the horn and it was even used with fingering examples in the original international sax method book. The idea did not catch on though and 1464 of the lebanc version and less than 3000 of the vito version were made. I am sure Leblanc lost on every vito horn. I think the marketing idea was to start students on this system. Eugene Rousseau endorsed the sax.
Is this a Vito model 35? Do you think this is a Professional Saxophone? cause I've got one on ebay but I want to know if I can take it as my main horn. Thanks a lot
Oh I see, well the Conn is already in overhaul process almost finished, the Vito is ok no need overhaul the person who is selling it on ebay send it to a technician so it doesn't need anything and well about the Grassi yeah they told me that these are not Professional level saxophones but that have great sound and ergonomics for a low price, maybe I will sell the Grassi and not buy the Vito and stay with my Conn New Wonder.
Larios. Let me answer this this way. It is a pro horn but the sound with stock resos is not as bright as many non classical players would like It also takes getting used to when going from the lower to upper octave. Many players leave the right hand down when going to and from the d2. on a regular sax the note is a c sharp. On the rationale it is a c. This is the same body as the Leblanc version except thier are screw adjustments to regulate on the Leblanc.
Neat horn, I wish we could see the cool engraving better. My buddy plays a Vito, the older ones are nice little horns. Some have fantastic etchwork on the bell. Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks a lot for your help and all the info about this saxophone, I was just thinking about buying it cause well I like Johny Hodges style and it's a nice Sax and different but also I have a Conn New Wonder Series I so I'm thinking about it hahaha still not taken a decision... Also my granfather gave me an Alto Grassi from Italy is like a Selmer I don't know if you know this brand, but it needs an overhaul. what would you recommend me as a musician and technician? the Conn or the Vito?
Thanks for shining some light of this fine and overlooked horn! Apparently someone is working on getting another Boehm system saxophone in production. I think the company is called Voyager, based out of Renton, Washington. It's posted on neosax(dot)com.
A G# articulation bar on a NWI seems like it would put a load on the C#, which doesn't have a lot of leverage on that particular model. Strong fingers required.
I think that the reason that the horn ended were the following 1) It was difficult for techs to learn to repair 2) While it allows many more fingerings some things that many players would do do not transfer 3) Too expensive to make a student horn so beginners could learn 4) It was marketed to a classical audience. I used to change the resos to a dome style and oversize the resos. It gives the horn more balls. Good luck to you, Ted.
If you like Johnny Hodges sound you will like either sax that you mention.Hodges played a vito as you say. As a retired tech I can tell you that when it needs adjustment it is different than any other sax and takes time to get right. They do keep regulation well though. Let me give a better example with fingering. Let's say I am going from a to d repeatedly. On all other saxes I can leave f,e, and d key down on the a. If you do this on the vito it will play g sharp to d.
Larios. If you overhaul the wonder series one have a tech solder a bar behind the g sharp key to modernize the table . I did this all the time when I repaired. The Grassi horn is a student horn. Getzen imported them for sale in the us. The sound is very good for an inexpensive horn. It sounds to me like It sounds like you are on a buget and overhauling the vito will be expensive.Good luck to you.
Thanks a lot for your time and very helpful informtation I really got it and well the Vito I've got is serial number #2253A so I think is on the 3000 Vitos that you told me they made right? Some people think they are not professional cause some are assemble in nogales but I've found there are couple model 35 Vitos with the other Vito logo that is just Horizontal on top of the bell I think that are the Student Vito one's made in Nogales not this one with Vertical Vito logo in all the Bell.
Thats awesome. Wow. I wish my buffet crampon could do something cool like that.. But Its only a S1. Great horn tho.
:o Ohh I see so I can take this as my main and professional horn? :D well I was just searching some info and pictures I think the prices I payed is good for it, and well I like the kind of different system the "Leblanc System" because I can play normal or with the extra notes right? the only thing I found on websites is that this saxophones are difficult to adjust is that true? or that's for the Leblanc Rationale models? and this ones are not so difficult, also I found a model 35 of Johny Hodges
The Vito version was marketed as a student horn by Leblanc. They invested a lot in the horn and it was even used with fingering examples in the original international sax method book. The idea did not catch on though and 1464 of the lebanc version and less than 3000 of the vito version were made. I am sure Leblanc lost on every vito horn. I think the marketing idea was to start students on this system. Eugene Rousseau endorsed the sax.
Is this a Vito model 35? Do you think this is a Professional Saxophone? cause I've got one on ebay but I want to know if I can take it as my main horn. Thanks a lot
What mouthpieces used?
Thank you and I'll look at the sax.
Oh I see, well the Conn is already in overhaul process almost finished, the Vito is ok no need overhaul the person who is selling it on ebay send it to a technician so it doesn't need anything and well about the Grassi yeah they told me that these are not Professional level saxophones but that have great sound and ergonomics for a low price, maybe I will sell the Grassi and not buy the Vito and stay with my Conn New Wonder.