Is Ancient Box Really Better With Walking Wake?

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Trying out Ancient Box with the latest upgrade from Twilight Masquerade in Walking Wake and the Secret Box ACE SPEC
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 47

  • @gorillaterrence
    @gorillaterrence 3 місяці тому +32

    I was one of the 5 people that day 2'd NAIC with Ancient Box, walking wake is definitely better, I just wish I had tested with secret box

    • @OscarHowe-dm9mx
      @OscarHowe-dm9mx Місяць тому

      You didn't day two naic where's your evidence

  • @Muffy_tcg
    @Muffy_tcg 3 місяці тому +13

    One underrated card in Ancient Box is Hisuian Heavy Ball to get any prized moons, ninja ect, and even getting the fodder pokemon like mane and wake could be pretty important

    • @AzulGG
      @AzulGG  3 місяці тому +3

      I do like the heavy ball but it's hard to find the space for it

    • @Muffy_tcg
      @Muffy_tcg 3 місяці тому

      @@AzulGG True, I just cut 1 nest and compensate with 2 artazon or 1 artazon 4 nest

  • @bernieswim
    @bernieswim 3 місяці тому +16

    The crazy thing about the walking wake debate is that I was expecting to see water energy. Then I realized it's just about retreat cost and HP.

  • @qtAlexx_YT
    @qtAlexx_YT 3 місяці тому +9

    Still only a fan of koraidon atm due to the popularity of regidrago on the ladder so shred is useful still imo

    • @lordkieta
      @lordkieta 3 місяці тому +3

      I just can't justify playing the fire energy, personally

    • @牙龙凌tcg
      @牙龙凌tcg 3 місяці тому

      it feels so Clunky to play fighting + fire energy in this deck, and being a two cost retreat is such a pain especially u start with it

    • @astudilloadrian4957
      @astudilloadrian4957 3 місяці тому

      I finish 6th in a league challengue with the help of koraidon, i could finish higher but i match a pidegot control with noiver the fire would save there

  • @hiddenmosaic
    @hiddenmosaic 3 місяці тому +5

    Every player I play against thats on Ancients apparently always hits every card they need. But when I try the deck at my Locals I brick half my rounds. Sometimes this deck doesnt operate.

  • @emilands3635
    @emilands3635 3 місяці тому +15

    I love how nobody believed in this deck when it first came up but now everyone has to say least consider it after it won tournaments and makes consistent day 2.

    • @ProjectLuark
      @ProjectLuark 3 місяці тому

      I’ve always respected the Ancient Box so much. To this day with my deck, it’s my worst matchup it feels like.

    • @EricNorris-j5n
      @EricNorris-j5n 3 місяці тому

      It's funny because ever since I have played lost box agianst my ancient box deck it's like I don't even sweat it. And Lost Box is top 3 for BDIF

  • @DITT000
    @DITT000 3 місяці тому +4

    With no penny? This way this list is weak againts control,no? Once we dont have how atack with greninja and suicune. Just asking guys, chill

    • @DITT000
      @DITT000 3 місяці тому

      Another thing. The fact that ironhands is in alot of decks of the meta, he can Get 2 prizes easily on suicune, and he have 10 hp less than koraidon 🤨

    • @muegeedo4354
      @muegeedo4354 3 місяці тому +4

      Bro fighting ghosts in the comments 💀

    • @DITT000
      @DITT000 3 місяці тому

      @@muegeedo4354I forgot” to ask all these things together 😂

  • @atHandleName
    @atHandleName 3 місяці тому

    Secret box seems good, maybe a bit better than drum, but scary to draw into after lategame iono. Ive always liked roxanne in this deck and have been thinking about unfair stamp, is there a reason no one plays it? I get that pretty often you get a big hand but still seems decent

  • @jonathantavernier8032
    @jonathantavernier8032 3 місяці тому

    Hello guys, i saw kieran in the game but no in the list, you cut great tusk for him or an other card ?

  • @MaftyTCG
    @MaftyTCG 3 місяці тому +1

    i just cant justify walking wake just for the fact that hes weak to amp you very much in a one prizer deck

  • @hilmifirdaus5124
    @hilmifirdaus5124 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm still a fan of koraidon

  • @Aaron0000014
    @Aaron0000014 3 місяці тому

    I still think koraidon is better, ive had games where ive actually benched 5 ancients to threaten 2hkos on big things like zard while preserving the roaring moons for another turn so they would be more potent. I think playing 1 penny really helps avoid the main problem koraidon has.

  • @hiddenmosaic
    @hiddenmosaic 3 місяці тому +2

    I would put water energy in this deck just so you can use it to take revenge KOs on Garde Drifloons and scream tail without having to use a Moon. Sometimes that can be the difference.

    • @somewhathandsome5288
      @somewhathandsome5288 Місяць тому

      The issue is that it's one matchup and most of the time that could be an 8th darkness energy that makes the difference in more matchups or a good tech for a bad matchup

    • @hiddenmosaic
      @hiddenmosaic Місяць тому

      @@somewhathandsome5288 I guess. It can be used as a retreat cost too, which comes up a lot as well. its not like its a fully dead card that aside. Garde at the time of posting was the most popular deck by far everywhere, so really not a crazy thing to tech for when its one water energy that hits the discard anyways most times

  • @mikematsuyama9623
    @mikematsuyama9623 3 місяці тому

    I've been testing Scream Tail ex a little bit and I like the idea of shutting off supporters on my opponents turn 2 even though it's a 2 prize liability. It's also a 1 retreat cost and has greater hp than Walking Wake.

  • @llGeeko
    @llGeeko 3 місяці тому +1

    Should you go first or second with this deck?

    • @fabioyukiowatanabe8014
      @fabioyukiowatanabe8014 3 місяці тому +2

      first

    • @benbrauns8135
      @benbrauns8135 3 місяці тому

      This is wrong, go second. You really need to get supporters off immediately with this deck.

  • @Random-oy5tg
    @Random-oy5tg 3 місяці тому

    theres no kieran in your original list but we can see it in gameplay did you cut something for it?

  • @egerramirez3444
    @egerramirez3444 3 місяці тому

    mah friend calls it the zinger box

  • @kuekqilejayden6646
    @kuekqilejayden6646 3 місяці тому +2

    I’m Ngl I feel the walking wake is a little weird I rather have an alternative beater in the form of koraidon 🥰

  • @BMCATCHEM
    @BMCATCHEM 3 місяці тому

    I think that’s my local store

  • @bakemono7991
    @bakemono7991 3 місяці тому

    Hi azul! Could you or maybe someone explain how i could join online tournaments to practice?

    • @stuckrath887
      @stuckrath887 3 місяці тому

      Search online for "play limitless", go to the first page, register an account, go to the ptcg section and it's as easy as clicking on the register button

  • @GoldenEmpoleon
    @GoldenEmpoleon 3 місяці тому +1

    Secret Box is only useful when you have a big hand; drums are good at any point in the game AND they unbrick you after a lategame Iono

    • @AzulGG
      @AzulGG  3 місяці тому +17

      Nah

    • @djgaydos9870
      @djgaydos9870 3 місяці тому +1

      So you go, secret box search awakening drum

    • @hiddenmosaic
      @hiddenmosaic 3 місяці тому +2

      You usually do have a big hand when playing Ancients unless you get hand disrupted. Even then, the odds of hitting your one-of Awakening drum are so small, that the Iono point you made here doesnt offset what Secret Box does for your earlygame. Instant Vessel/ultra/nest ball, Sada, Ancient capsule and Pokestop. Kind of insane.

  • @aimanz202
    @aimanz202 3 місяці тому

    Would you consider tuning the deck adding a few water energy as well so walking wake could attack too?

    • @UncalibratedAimbot
      @UncalibratedAimbot 3 місяці тому +3

      180 damage is solid but requiring 3 energy is a lot to ask in this deck, especially when two are water. Running just a few fighting energy could mess with your attachments for turn, and WW requires even more water than Koraidon did Fighting

  • @AllanMejia-bw1qq
    @AllanMejia-bw1qq 3 місяці тому

    how does walking wake attack with no water energy?

    • @AliciaChate
      @AliciaChate 3 місяці тому +3

      only because of the 1 retreat cost

    • @ryanl2734
      @ryanl2734 3 місяці тому +8

      It’s only in the deck to be discarded

    • @wingsof5stack390
      @wingsof5stack390 3 місяці тому +1

      Its easier to switch out than koraidon and koraidon is a trash attacker

    • @anorthon7744
      @anorthon7744 3 місяці тому +2

      Its not to attck with it, just to discard or if it stuck on active it have 1 retreat cost which koraidon have 2 thats why its better