Still a bad memory, that interview. The question had to be asked, yes. But the circumstances were all wrong for it to be that night. I won’t ever forget it. None of us like to be asked if we are sinners in front of the watching world...and all of us want to ask the sinner to talk about their sin. We all could cut some slack, I think.
Bill will always be my favourite news anchor. He is just so old-school. Plus he stands by what he believes in. Other anchors will lurch to the Left or Right if they get the sense their viewers want that. But Bill always just give a his opinion
Man.. i'll never forget watching that interview as a kid. I'm sure like everyone else watching on tv, i just remember thinking "dude!! what the hell are you doing??!! Let the man have his moment!" It's funny that he expresses no regret whatsoever about asking those questions. And it's not even the question necessarily. It's just the way he was basically saying, "I'm Jim Gray, and I've decided that now is the time and place for you, Pete Rose, to admit that you bet on baseball." smh... just thinking about that interview still sends shivers down my spine.
Pete Rose will ALWAYS be in my Hall of Fame, Mr "Charlie Hustle" and the Cincinnati Reds during the 70's were unforgettable, can't even begin to describe how influential their efforts were to young kids learning the game back then. I've never visited the actual Baseball "Hall of Fame" because Pete Rose ain't in it.
I have been in the lobby, but refused to go in. I won't either, until Rose is in, if ever. I was never a great big Rose fan either. I loved him on the diamond and thought he was a jerk otherwise.
It wasn’t that he asked the question, it was how he asked, his smirk on his face, how he kept going back to the question and how he ended the interview. Jim knew what he was doing and got what he wanted.
Yes, I watched this live and Jim just wouldn't let it go. He could have asked and moved on when Pete obviously wasn't going to answer the way he wanted. Was very off putting. He probably could have gotten what he wanted by offering a separate interview out of the lime light of the event. Just went down all wrong.
It was a typical gotcha question....reporters like to ask people if they want to apologize for some transgression....Pete and the fans were having none of this guys bull crap
J. Gray showed balls by not letting Pete of the hook. Pete would sit there and look these interviewers in the eye and tell bald-face lies for years and years. Gray wasn't having it and called him out.
I remember that interview and how innapropriate the questioning was at that particular time. Gray came across as a weasel and I have never forgiven him.
i think rose got everything he deserved.. but it was very inappropriate to ask him that at that event.. so gray got taken to the woodshed.. he deserved what he got too.. he was obviously very nervous talking about it ,,even now
ENOUGH of this petty bullcrap on Pete Rose betting on baseball. We know the facts now. And they are less egregious than a few current scandals. We all know those too. PUT PETE ROSE IN THE HOF or the HOF isn't relevant. PERIOD!
There are few "pre/in/post game" interviews that are memorable, but that one was because it was just awkward and not appropriate at that moment IMHO. And, I'm not even a Rose fan.
If Rose would have admitted to the gambling in the beginning, and repented, he would have been forgiven, and even admired, I believe. It was his adamant denial that doomed him.
You can think that Jim Gray was being self-aggrandizing in that moment, but I see it a different way. He was the only sportscaster out there that refused to handle Pete with kid gloves, and I respect that about him. Pete Rose was a pathological liar; in fact, maybe one of the worst of all time. How he could sit there for years and years and deny something for which there was overwhelming evidence is beyond me. A few years later, he eventually admitted to gambling on the Reds and this interview may have had something to do with that.
All of that vitriol could not happen to anyone more deserving. During the 1993 ALCS, between Toronto and the Chicago White Sox, he wanted to talk to Jerry Reinsdorf about Michael Jordan. This came as no surprise. He is a yellow journalist
This is not how I remember it, Jim. I remember more as an ambush by you. And, I have no sympathy for the vitriol you experienced. But that said, I think you have had a great career and have done much good. But on the Pete Rose interview, I remember it much different than you have portrayed.
MLB wanted Peter Edward Rose to be subservient to the league and do what they asked. What this really meant was that Major League Baseball wanted Rose to admit that he best AGAINST the Cincinnati Reds when he was the manager and Pete stated he never did and never would. That wasn't good enough for Major League Baseball as they think they are above reproach and the Arbiter of all truth. For example when MLB w/ Bud Selig & Rob Manfred in charge Major League Baseball promoted, endorsed, marketed Steroids in baseball as a positive thing. Because that arrogance wasn't confronted, now MLB promotes, endorses, and markets GAMBLING on Major League Games. The hypocrisy is enough for any real fan to throw up w/ the contradictions. Pete Rose was, is, and always will be the " BEST AMBASSADOR of Major League Baseball over the past 140 years. Rob Manfred needs to get his head out of his Asshole and reinstate ROSE immediately.
They didn't need him to admit that he bet against the Reds. Rule 21 doesn't distinguish between betting for, or against, a team for which you have an obligation to perform. Beside, anyone who thinks that Pete didn't bet against the Reds, being the degenerate gambler that he was, is being naive.
INTERVIEW 2002 (Tyson vs Etienne) Jim Gray: You seemed troubled this week Mike, what was up ? Mike Tyson: I broke my back !! Jim Gray: an vertebrae Mike ? Mike Tyson: Spinal !! Jim Gray: ??? Ya what ?
Rose being on the all time great team is downright laughable. He is the single most overrated player in baseball history. And before everyone flames me with simple-minded substanceless responses, go look up Pete's numbers. They really are NOT that great.
@@gregmatyas4272 , a name call. Wow. What a typical intelligent response. You probably think "free' health care is actually FREE too, don't you? Here is evidence for you. Rose had 1,700 more at bats more than anyone else in baseball history. That is a very sizable gap between him and the SECOND place guy. With an at-bats lead that large, he should lead several all-time categories by a mile and a half. But the simple truth is, he doesn't, and in most categories, he's very far down the list. Below are Rose's all-time rankings in several categories.
Runs-6 . Total bases-9. Walks 14. XBH-30 (the all-time hits leader ranks only 30th in extra base hits). WAR-40. RBI-103. BA-170. OBP-218. Stolen bases-360. HR-486. OPS-594. Slugging-933 (that's not a misprint).
In fact, the only other category Rose leads is the number of career outs made. It’s not even close.
Again, keep in mind that he had 1,700 more chances to create offensive numbers than the SECOND place guy. Keeping it in this proper context, his all-time rankings are very inadequate. Rose was a ONE tool player. Of the five tools-hitting, power, arm, glove, speed- Rose possessed exactly one of them-hitting. In the other four categories, he was not only not stellar, but was actually subpar. His power numbers were dismal. He did not steal bases. His defense was, at best, mediocre. Not to mention, he was a selfish and disrespectful teammate who was disliked by most everyone else in the clubhouse. The numbers clearly show that all he accomplished was get a bunch of singles, and only because he played forever. If you look at the actual numbers and put them in the proper context, you will quickly realize that Rose was more famous than he was great. To say that Pete Rose is one of the greatest hitters of all-time is, at its nicest, highly questionable. To say that he is one of the greatest PLAYERS of all-time is downright laughable. Ok, genius. There are some FACTS. EVIDENCE! What do you have besides name calls?
I have the same “facts” that you/Google have. The original comments were whether his STATS are HOF worthy, not about if he belonged on some dumb all time great team (which of course he does not). Yeah he played forever but that in itself should tell you he must have been much better than just an average player....the fact that he doesn’t lead MLB in a ton of stats historically may mean that he was probably a pretty damn good ball player. He also has his fair share of awards ROY, MVP, 2 GGs, 17 ASG, 7 seasons led MLB in hits. So to say he is the single most overrated player is quite extreme. Would you want an all around player LIKE him on your team or a one dimensional HR hitter who has career BA of .240 but hit 500 HRs (probably a bunch useless just like many of Rose’s singles, as you would say). You want most overrated I’d go with someone like Nolan Ryan, averaged a little more than 1 win per year over .500 but struck out a ridiculous amount of batters. Now that is the true definition of a one dimensional player. We can go on and on but I think you get my point, and btw my wife is from Canada so I am all too familiar with the dumb ass concept of “free” (wait 5 years for anything) health care!!
@@gregmatyas4272 , several things. First, my original comments were NOT about his hall of fame worthiness. They were that he is the most over rated player ever. I never said Rose was a bad player, just an over rated one. The definition of over rated is someone with a huge gap between the hype and the actual on field accomplishments. Nowhere is that gap bigger than with Pete Rose. You're right-Nolan Ryan was over rated, Rose MORE so. ASGs are meaningless. That's just a popularity contest. His ONE MVP award he won he didn't deserve. Look at Rose's numbers for about the last 5 years he played. They are embarrassingly bad. Again, a ONE tool player. Every other tool was below average. I'm relieved to hear you believe Rose doesn't belong on any all time great team. Clearly he does not.
Pete Rose and Ty Cobb probably helped their teams win more games than any other player in MLB hIstory . Base hits win ballgames . Pete was also great in the post season , much better than the cheater Barry Bonds .
I've stopped watching O'Reilly. He's in the tank for Biden. I don't need to hear that BS. I only stopped by to leave this comment and hope he reads it. I subscribed to him for a long time, but not any more.
Still a bad memory, that interview. The question had to be asked, yes. But the circumstances were all wrong for it to be that night. I won’t ever forget it.
None of us like to be asked if we are sinners in front of the watching world...and all of us want to ask the sinner to talk about their sin. We all could cut some slack, I think.
Bill will always be my favourite news anchor.
He is just so old-school.
Plus he stands by what he believes in. Other anchors will lurch to the Left or Right if they get the sense their viewers want that. But Bill always just give a his opinion
Jim gray always asked the slimey questions .
Pete rose ìs forgiven in my eyes. What about the juicing . That shit got swept under the rug
Yup
Jim Gray a real tool moment!
Man.. i'll never forget watching that interview as a kid. I'm sure like everyone else watching on tv, i just remember thinking "dude!! what the hell are you doing??!! Let the man have his moment!" It's funny that he expresses no regret whatsoever about asking those questions. And it's not even the question necessarily. It's just the way he was basically saying, "I'm Jim Gray, and I've decided that now is the time and place for you, Pete Rose, to admit that you bet on baseball." smh... just thinking about that interview still sends shivers down my spine.
Pete Rose will ALWAYS be in my Hall of Fame, Mr "Charlie Hustle" and the Cincinnati Reds during the 70's were unforgettable, can't even begin to describe how influential their efforts were to young kids learning the game back then. I've never visited the actual Baseball "Hall of Fame" because Pete Rose ain't in it.
I have been in the lobby, but refused to go in. I won't either, until Rose is in, if ever. I was never a great big Rose fan either. I loved him on the diamond and thought he was a jerk otherwise.
Bill O'Reilly.👍
It wasn’t that he asked the question, it was how he asked, his smirk on his face, how he kept going back to the question and how he ended the interview. Jim knew what he was doing and got what he wanted.
Yes, I watched this live and Jim just wouldn't let it go. He could have asked and moved on when Pete obviously wasn't going to answer the way he wanted. Was very off putting. He probably could have gotten what he wanted by offering a separate interview out of the lime light of the event. Just went down all wrong.
btw.. rose finally admitted it when he was selling a book!
It was a typical gotcha question....reporters like to ask people if they want to apologize for some transgression....Pete and the fans were having none of this guys bull crap
J. Gray showed balls by not letting Pete of the hook. Pete would sit there and look these interviewers in the eye and tell bald-face lies for years and years. Gray wasn't having it and called him out.
I remember the following night after the game,the players wouldn’t answer questions in protest too how Pete rose was treated.
Jim Gray ambushed Pete Rose. Jim Gray is lucky for no social media at the time . Gray show no class with this question.
I remember that interview and how innapropriate the questioning was at that particular time. Gray came across as a weasel and I have never forgiven him.
Unforgivable that should have been one of the best days of Pete’s life
i think rose got everything he deserved.. but it was very inappropriate to ask him that at that event..
so gray got taken to the woodshed.. he deserved what he got too..
he was obviously very nervous talking about it ,,even now
ENOUGH of this petty bullcrap on Pete Rose betting on baseball. We know the facts now. And they are less egregious than a few current scandals. We all know those too. PUT PETE ROSE IN THE HOF or the HOF isn't relevant. PERIOD!
There are few "pre/in/post game" interviews that are memorable, but that one was because it was just awkward and not appropriate at that moment IMHO. And, I'm not even a Rose fan.
Watch the interview...Jim Gray used every minute he was given for badgering Pete Rose.
And Chad Curtis dogged him 😂😂😂
If Rose would have admitted to the gambling in the beginning, and repented, he would have been forgiven, and even admired, I believe. It was his adamant denial that doomed him.
So the roof users who denied they used them should be banned too
The questions had to be asked
It was the white Elephant in the room..
You can think that Jim Gray was being self-aggrandizing in that moment, but I see it a different way. He was the only sportscaster out there that refused to handle Pete with kid gloves, and I respect that about him. Pete Rose was a pathological liar; in fact, maybe one of the worst of all time. How he could sit there for years and years and deny something for which there was overwhelming evidence is beyond me. A few years later, he eventually admitted to gambling on the Reds and this interview may have had something to do with that.
Hard to believe this clueless Jim gray stuck around so long
Give him credit for persistence
He kind of reminds me of Mr McGee, from the Incredible Hulk, a slimy news/sports reporter, lol
Pete rose should be in the hall of the fame who cares if he bet on baseball
Weasel
What did he ask Shula? I'm curious.
All of that vitriol could not happen to anyone more deserving. During the 1993 ALCS, between Toronto and the Chicago White Sox, he wanted to talk to Jerry Reinsdorf about Michael Jordan. This came as no surprise. He is a yellow journalist
Jim Gray still petty
This is not how I remember it, Jim. I remember more as an ambush by you. And, I have no sympathy for the vitriol you experienced. But that said, I think you have had a great career and have done much good. But on the Pete Rose interview, I remember it much different than you have portrayed.
MLB wanted Peter Edward Rose to be subservient to the league and do what they asked. What this really meant was that Major League Baseball wanted Rose to admit that he best AGAINST the Cincinnati Reds when he was the manager and Pete stated he never did and never would. That wasn't good enough for Major League Baseball as they think they are above reproach and the Arbiter of all truth. For example when MLB w/ Bud Selig & Rob Manfred in charge Major League Baseball promoted, endorsed, marketed Steroids in baseball as a positive thing. Because that arrogance wasn't confronted, now MLB promotes, endorses, and markets GAMBLING on Major League Games. The hypocrisy is enough for any real fan to throw up w/ the contradictions. Pete Rose was, is, and always will be the " BEST AMBASSADOR of Major League Baseball over the past 140 years. Rob Manfred needs to get his head out of his Asshole and reinstate ROSE immediately.
They didn't need him to admit that he bet against the Reds. Rule 21 doesn't distinguish between betting for, or against, a team for which you have an obligation to perform. Beside, anyone who thinks that Pete didn't bet against the Reds, being the degenerate gambler that he was, is being naive.
If Don Shula yelled at you then you asked for it.
Pete Rose is just a pure hitter. The best, until a man named Ichiro came to Seattle.
🙄 huh
INTERVIEW 2002 (Tyson vs Etienne) Jim Gray: You seemed troubled this week Mike, what was up ?
Mike Tyson: I broke my back !!
Jim Gray: an vertebrae Mike ?
Mike Tyson: Spinal !!
Jim Gray: ??? Ya what ?
Gray still a piece of crap for doing that.
He was the only interviewer that wasn't afraid of Pete. Everyone else was so intimidated by him that they did nothing but kowtow to him.
Rose being on the all time great team is downright laughable. He is the single most overrated player in baseball history. And before everyone flames me with simple-minded substanceless responses, go look up Pete's numbers. They really are NOT that great.
You, sir, are the pure definition of the word “idiot”.
@@gregmatyas4272 , a name call. Wow. What a typical intelligent response. You probably think "free' health care is actually FREE too, don't you? Here is evidence for you. Rose had 1,700 more at bats more than anyone else in baseball history. That is a very sizable gap between him and the SECOND place guy. With an at-bats lead that large, he should lead several all-time categories by a mile and a half. But the simple truth is, he doesn't, and in most categories, he's very far down the list. Below are Rose's all-time rankings in several categories.
Runs-6
. Total bases-9. Walks 14. XBH-30 (the all-time hits leader ranks only 30th in extra base hits). WAR-40. RBI-103. BA-170. OBP-218. Stolen bases-360. HR-486. OPS-594. Slugging-933 (that's not a misprint).
In fact, the only other category Rose leads is the number of career outs made. It’s not even close.
Again, keep in mind that he had 1,700 more chances to create offensive numbers than the SECOND place guy. Keeping it in this proper context, his all-time rankings are very inadequate. Rose was a ONE tool player. Of the five tools-hitting, power, arm, glove, speed- Rose possessed exactly one of them-hitting. In the other four categories, he was not only not stellar, but was actually subpar. His power numbers were dismal. He did not steal bases. His defense was, at best, mediocre. Not to mention, he was a selfish and disrespectful teammate who was disliked by most everyone else in the clubhouse. The numbers clearly show that all he accomplished was get a bunch of singles, and only because he played forever. If you look at the actual numbers and put them in the proper context, you will quickly realize that Rose was more famous than he was great. To say that Pete Rose is one of the greatest hitters of all-time is, at its nicest, highly questionable. To say that he is one of the greatest PLAYERS of all-time is downright laughable.
Ok, genius. There are some FACTS. EVIDENCE! What do you have besides name calls?
I have the same “facts” that
you/Google have. The original comments were whether his STATS are HOF worthy, not about if he belonged on some dumb all time great team (which of course he does not). Yeah he played forever but that in itself should tell you he must have been much better than just an average player....the fact that he doesn’t lead MLB in a ton of stats historically may mean that he was probably a pretty damn good ball player. He also has his fair share of awards ROY, MVP, 2 GGs, 17 ASG, 7 seasons led MLB in hits. So to say he is the single most overrated player is quite extreme.
Would you want an all around player LIKE him on your team or a one dimensional HR hitter who has career BA of .240 but hit 500 HRs (probably a bunch useless just like many of Rose’s singles, as you would say).
You want most overrated I’d go with someone like Nolan Ryan, averaged a little more than 1 win per year over .500 but struck out a ridiculous amount of batters. Now that is the true definition of a one dimensional player.
We can go on and on but I think you get my point, and btw my wife is from Canada so I am all too familiar with the dumb ass concept of “free” (wait 5 years for anything) health care!!
@@gregmatyas4272 , several things. First, my original comments were NOT about his hall of fame worthiness. They were that he is the most over rated player ever. I never said Rose was a bad player, just an over rated one. The definition of over rated is someone with a huge gap between the hype and the actual on field accomplishments. Nowhere is that gap bigger than with Pete Rose. You're right-Nolan Ryan was over rated, Rose MORE so. ASGs are meaningless. That's just a popularity contest. His ONE MVP award he won he didn't deserve. Look at Rose's numbers for about the last 5 years he played. They are embarrassingly bad. Again, a ONE tool player. Every other tool was below average. I'm relieved to hear you believe Rose doesn't belong on any all time great team. Clearly he does not.
Pete Rose and Ty Cobb probably helped their teams win more games than any other player in MLB hIstory .
Base hits win ballgames .
Pete was also great in the post season , much better than the cheater Barry Bonds .
I've stopped watching O'Reilly. He's in the tank for Biden. I don't need to hear that BS. I only stopped by to leave this comment and hope he reads it. I subscribed to him for a long time, but not any more.
He is?
That’s ridiculous. He’s as straight a shooter of information as there is. So who’s NOT in the tank.... Hannity ???
@@tuxiekins I don't need O'Reilly stating emphatically Joe Biden will be sworn in on January 20. Sorry. I find it offensive.