Drones are ILLEGAL over the Elizabeth Line Depot 😒🚁⚠️❌️🤬
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- I visit Alstom train depot - The Elizabeth Line train depot to be precise in Old Oak Common area in West London. We are told NO drones and that it is ILLEGAL.
So we send the drone up.
Amazing how many people mistake "policy" for "law."
Why does it always become an argument when they tell you lies and you challenge them? These liars expect you to accept that red is green just because they say it is.
I am wearing Hi-Viz therefore I can tell you, with certainty, that it's against the law! Even on film they still spout nonsense.
"Its written in the law what a bell end" 😅😅😅
He knew it was stupid to say but the bell end, did it's magic and won ha😊
They are overlooked by apartments or offices and they are paranoid about aerial photos 🤣
9:30 I still dumbfounded how they think their policies extend beyond their borders. You don't regulate the public. You regulate your site.
"it's in the law I just made up"
It is not Network Rail law it’s just their rules and they only apply whilst you are on their site.
Isn’t it strange that whenever you ask for permission to film a business, it’s against the law! Do these people all just breed lies or what
It is to protect themselves in case they are breaking any Laws.
its the law what a load of bull sh.t
lol, "its written in the law but I don't know where" Yeah, sheeple always say things like that when they wish there was a law available to enforce what they don't want.
Says he's not going to argue with you, while simultaneously arguing with you.
The dumbing down of Britain....lol
Well, whatever the legalities of drone flying etc etc, as a train buff, I really enjoyed this, thanks!
What I found very interesting, which I didn't comment on, was those apartments to the left. I thought that I could see a greenhouse on the top floor??? I could definitely see sunbeds. I was desperate for you to pan into those lolol. Brilliant footage 😊😊😊😊👍👍👍
Oh, poor Wally Bib. "I don't know where it is specifically in the law, but I'm absolutely certain of it." Imagine if we lived in the world that he wanted, where policies become laws due to the power of your imagination and hurted fee-fees.
Luv the vid DJE, shame about the wind. Nice to see DJ Audits in chat.
He's probably asking , 'why the similar format'...lol
Well you say shame about the wind but actually I thought there was lots of good footage in that video regardless of the wind
@@razwanakhan25 No problem with the footage but drone may have gone further as the pilot didn't want to loose his drone due to the wind.
If it's HS2 then I suppose it's in the public interest to highlight yet another example of burning taxpayers money.
Overground trains are the Network Rail operators, underground trains are London Underground operations. It describes the bulk/origin of the network rather than the train travel itself.
There are some small areas of overlap.
Just because HS2 is also around that.
HS1 is CTRL
So you say DJE the BTP came later. I’m surprised cos when you need them they never show up. What did they have to say to you?
Im confused, Drone Assist has massive red section over central London which in my opinion is just over kill but then yellow over the actual depot and classed as railway infrastructure
The red section over central London does not restrict drone flying. Read the summary.
That area is perfectly legal to fly over with a drone. Following drone code.
This isn't central London either.
The restricted area is inside the London Control Terminal Area which restricts Helicopters from flying. The CTA has heli lanes designated to transit the CTA unless authorised by the London air traffic control to transit off the designated heli lanes usually only twin engine helicopters.The restricted area however does not apply to drones.Hope that answers your question.
Drones can fly in a red zone along as its a CTR inside of that red zone would be a FRZ you cannot fly in the FRZ part as that's the flight restriction zone just take care in a CTR zone
The amount of roof mounted equipment can be many reasons, having to increase the roof strength required, maintaining on roofs is an increased risk. They only need so many to run thier own building.
The high rises/ hs2 buildings will (or possibly) interfere with light in future.
Mickey Mouse in house policies do not trump the law. These clowns really are clueless.
See this is what I don’t understand with this country like why can’t they just say yeah go on fire over the site with your drone don’t mind.
You’re actually doing them a favour by promoting the company anyway and showing just how good those trains look so if anything they will earn more money by the coverage
I'm early in the video but I'm really glad you're not talking over each other.
Very interesting transporting DJ 🤣🤣👍👍
British Transport Police can’t deal with this issue, that are assigned responsibilities to the railways not the street.
What about the airspace?
This is funny, it's British transports property lol and who pays for that who's paid for HS2, everyone's got cameras but it's against the law to use them drones are not in our policy haha, but the law and CAA says you can. What a fucking mess hahahaha
Wearing a hi viz needs so badly to control everything even lies to get his way
what drone are you using please?
London expensive compare to Manchester where I live? London is the biggest railway network and underground tuba
Read the manual it explains "AUTO" mode!
Great video DJE thanks 👍👍👍
When you challenged him on what LAW he thinks you are breaking, - Like all these repeaters they get defensive: why make yourself look stupid ? Lean your LAWS and then speak with authority.
It's in the law lol
All those flats with a clear view of the trains and site, there's nothing secret.
I never expected that to be fair so big too,
Don't say the underground is grotty went on my Birthday other day great to see the old travel like back in the 70s ❤
Once again another man with a Law Degree who is working in a reflective jacket quoting laws that he cannot quote!!!!!! Anyone can just claim there is a law against something but cannot quote the law.
Where have all the steam engines gone, long time passed.?
Transport police obviously told him that he was legally allowed to do it so he heard nothing
Why not print out the drone law/sia laws etc and hand it to them when questioned?
Do you really think they'd change their minds one iota?
@@rogerborg Probably not but they might learn something if they can read.
you don't own the air space
2. Potentially dangerous items
except with written permission from an operator or an authorised person, no person shall bring with him or allow to remain on the railway any item which, in the opinion of an authorised person, may threaten, annoy, soil or damage any person or any property
if any person in charge of an item contrary to Byelaw 2(1) is asked by an authorised person to remove it and fails to do so immediately, it may be removed by or under the direction of an authorised person.
And?
This has NOTHING to do with items that are not on the property... Until or unless the drone falls out of the sky it cannot possibly be on the land - or can I claim all the clouds in the sky above my garden?
@@SBro-uo9he you could argue that drones annoy people, unwanted filming. If the drone falls onto railway property it could damage infrastructure or a person. Railways are safety critical places, you don't want distractions in the environment. If the drone lands on railway property how you going to get it back?
I have a phrase I use with clowns like this - "Show me the law that says that" or "Show me the law that says (what person claims)". Makes them go quiet.
How often do you find yourself saying that?
@@rogerborg Too often, to be honest.
Couldn't audit a tin of beans just out to cause trouble and generate more views. Time to stop these so called auditors!
I don't think police will come out to you mate he's not a crime to fly a drum over public buildings place
Police always come
If you have any issue with your drom ask DJ audits he might know what it is because as DJ min 4
He told to reset it on live chat and its fixed it !
There are special approvals needed to fly in London. This is due to busy approaches to Heathrow and London City last I looked there were only two authorised companies. HT lines and large metal buildings can also cause control issues.
you are incorrect, i have flown drones in london dozens of times and with police looking over.I have also had police ask me how much i payed for my drone as he wanted one for his son. - You can fly a drone in London with the appropriate CAA license or ID and obey all local flight rules. Individual boroughs have their own rules about drone usage, and the city has a variety of off-limits places.....and use common sense...
Are they _secret_ "special approvals"? From who would I get "approval", if not the CAA?
None of that applies to small drones/toys
Only authorised Network Rail pilots and specialist approved contractors are permitted to fly drones on or near the railway this includes critical rail infrastructure. Directly from Network Rail. :)
and?
Actually their detailed advice say comply with CAA which has different rules for sub250g.
They are describing the rules for larger drones. NR is doing a disservice to their staff and the public with the lack of clarity.
FFS TELL THEM THE CAA CONTROLS THE AIRWAYS...it will save a lot of pointless, boring arguments...its getting old man!!!
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But he's DJE and can fly anywhere!
So did Mark Thomas on channel 4 in the 90s. He took a hot air balloon over Menwith Hill and they sent a helicopter after him.
Very funny show.
He did plan to fly hundreds overhead, but people got upset.
Railway byelaws
Do they apply to:
1) Public places outside the railway
2) The airspace over the railway
1) no obviously, 2) yes because it may cause damage to railway property if it falls on OLE or hits a person @@rogerborg
which don't apply