Thanks for sharing this. I've never heard of the shay before. but the big boy is amazingly beautiful in my opinion. wish steam was in use again on the main line.
This two-truck Shay is roughly the same condition as was Mt. Tamalpais & Muir Woods Ry. #7 (Lima Machine Works Class B4 Shay, SerNo 1945) when pulled off the mountain 3 July 1929, along with the frame and trucks of an otherwise burned vertical-tank car she was towing. Both were caught deep in a brush conflagration on the east flank of Mt. Tamalpais when the tracks failed the previous day, the crossties turned to charcoal and the rails softened to the point of buckling.
These are way way cool, I live in a very small railroad town in Midwest called Pacific, named for this railroad, AWESOME vid & photos, thank you for sharing ! Have a very Merry Happy Holidays Steve... I always get sad when my exploration friends say thanks for watching because I know it's ending .... :) Be blessed my friend ...
To those who are bemoaning the condition of the shay (and trust me, there's a reason to), it's not Steamtown's fault. It was a freak-of-nature accident that caused the primary damage. The roof of the building storing the shay collapsed onto it when too much snow piled onto it, causing a structural failure. This seemingly was before its transfer to Steamtown.
Aw man that Union Pacific Big Boy is a BEAST! And I bet it looks like a monster when you're actually seeing it with your own eyes and not through TV or computer screen.
DisasterOnline That will be a cool loco to see when they are finished it. Some many people will be out there when it is rolling down the tracks for it first voyage.
The location is Steamtown Park in Scranton, Pennsylvania part of the national park system and the park system still hasn't funded it so restorations can commence on locomotive's so the can be stored inside. But anything can be brought back from the dead. There is a Cincinnati Curve Side streetcar at Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, Maine that during a museum wide cleanup campaign in 1966, it was just a flat frame with only 30 inches or so of one end of the double ended car remaining, no seats no controllers, 98% of the car was gone. But one member from the west coast was there on his vacation and said hold it your not scrapping it I will restore it and I will pay for it. It took over 30 plus years for him to finish it but if you looked at it today you'd never think it was as bad as it was. No trucks no traction motors no nothing when he started the restoration. The car today looks like it came out of the factory yesterday. True they need restoration but they are in a museum and eventually will get there due in the shop, they may not run again but they will get restored to just short of operating condition. Tis better than sitting in a junkyard waiting to be cut up.
Awesome video and pictures Steve.... That 4012 Loco looks about 1 1/2 times longer than our old Preserved Steam Loco's here in the UK. Well done...well worth seeing this...Best wishes...Steve.
***** yea they gave it them name big boy for a reason. Problem with that thing is forget it running on a lot of tourist railroad here today due to the degrees needed for curves and maintenance cost.
We used to have some trains like that here in Petaluma, but I think they got rid of them because they're putting in a smart train through here, to SF.They cleaned up all of the really old stuff. I will say, since I'm here, I really like this subject, all urban decay is interesting, not just old houses. Thanks again!
Whether you added captions because your audio was low or not, I applaud any UA-cam video with ACCURATE closed captions. Don't even look at the automatic caption option, those are crap. There are so many people with hearing difficulties that need the captions. So high five! I agree that the wooden train was scary looking.
Kat Willhite i did the captions myself. It is something i am doing on all my newer videos now. I can agree that youtube butchers the captions when it system tries to figure it out.
I recently started watching an awesome gal ***** and she is HOH and she has pointed out how exhausting it is to try and read lips and/or turn up the volume so loud she might get noise complaints from her neighbors when she watches videos without CC. I am catching up on your videos, I am way behind!
+Sam King Yes. They had upright cylinders, driving the wheels via reduction gears, instead of driving rods. They were used mostly in mountainous areas, a lot of logging companies used them. Anywhere a high torque, low speed application was preferable. They were also largely narrow gauge.
***** Thanks for the reply! I went and looked at some better pictures and it also looked like they sent power back to the tender car, turning all the wheels in to drivers. Imagine the torque these things would produce!
+Sam King Yup, the tender was powered as well. A lot of logging, and, mining routes they were used on had grades that would have been completely impossible for any other locomotive.
The Big Boy is at Steam Town in Scranton PA and When I was there a few years ago they had steam cleaned it and were doing a cosmetic restoration on it, I also believe it now has a shed over it, but can not swear to it. I remember that engine when it was in Steam Town when it was in Bellows Falls VT some time back in the late 60's or early 70's.
A shame that some rail museum wont takes these historical locos and cars to restore and put on display. If nothing else put them some where that will protect them from the weather and possible vandals. These pre WW II steam locos are almost rare to very rare, especially those that could be restored to running condition. Hope you have more railroad oriented videos. Starting to enjoy these.* * * * * Thanks for the tour, need a little more details about the loco's and car's that you show. Like road name and the type of car or loco it is and maybe when it was used and where it was used.* * * * * //es// A Proud Honorable Disabled American Veteran, 1967-1994 - Combat Medicine.
DRGW168 My comment I believe was meant to cover all the old historic power units that are left to deteriorating on sidings or in wrecking yards around the country. And, if this loco is in a museum, it sure does not look like it has a very good conservation department and the background does not lend to the idea that it is in a museum. Besides I live on the west coast and have little knowledge of the parks and such on the east coast. Another point, what is it with the need of calling people names because they make a mistake or did not have enough information to know the whole truth of the situation? Can't you children of today be polite to others without all the name calling and insults. //es// A Proud Honorable Disabled American Veteran, 1967-1994.
Everything thing in the video should had a cover over it. I hate to see such historical items go to rust. Cannot believe that's how these relics are treated. Wish I was a very wealthy man. I would buy and preserve them.
these are all at a railroad museum in Scranton pa, the big-boy right now is going through a cosmetic restoration and the rest are on static display, and better to be in bad shape now and be seen now rather then having been scrapped back in the 60s or 70s, just nice that old steam engines are still in existence even in bad shape
The steam locomotive is the perfect target for preservation and restoration. It is a beautiful machine that is not just some cold, lifeless piece of metal, it is a living breathing organism. If you are looking for some smiles on little kids' faces, look no further than your local heritage railroad with a steam locomotive. Operating or not, steam locomotives bring smiles to everyone! If you want to continue to see smiles, make a small donation to your local heritage museum, ANY amount is helpful! Donate and volunteer today! Your donations and volunteer work will be put towards preserving and making new living history! Any donations or volunteer work is welcome! Help preserve living history today and donate and volunteer at your local railroad museum! Many events go on through out the year of a steam heritage museum. One of these events is Tomas days were a Tomas train is pushed by trains at the museum. Little children love this! It is also very, very profitable! Volunteering is easy! No need to unscrew bolts and lift heavy pieces, all you have to do is make sure everyone is having a good time. ANYONE can do it. All the profits will be put towards preserving and restoring living history! Very, very easy, easy to preserve the past! Little effort needed! Here is a long list of steam locomotives which can be restored and preserved: 2, 3, 13, 17, 29, 63, 93, 112, 175, 197, 202, 261, 385, 464, 470, 482, 484, 486, 488, 489, 502, 506, 576, 592, 611, 630, 643, 700, 759, 765, 844, 1218, 1223, 1225, 1258, 1309, 1361, 1504, 1518, 1604, 1630, 1795, 2100, 2101, 2124, 2156, 2467, 2500, 2542, 2716, 2749, 2933, 3001, 3003, 3007, 3424, 3977, 3985, 4003, 4004, 4005, 4006, 4008, 4012, 4014, 4017, 4018, 4023, 4100, 4294, 4449, 4460, 4500, 4501, 4516, 4524, 4978, 5017, 5629, 6755, 7002, 8300, 8305, 8327 and 9000 are out there waiting for a visit to the shops and overhauled. Then fire up the boilers and enjoy the wonders of steam. Everyone will thank you. Pull excursion trains with them and watch the public stare in awe at the locomotive and wonder, "Why wasn't this restored earlier?" Happy, happy days!
Loved looking at the unrestored train at the start, awsome!!! That bigboy doesn't fall short of the name. wonder how much horsepower that produces. I think i have seen a snowplow being used fairly recently like the one in your vid. Urbex dosen't describle the quality of these vids, but Urban archeologist videographer doesn't have that ring to it. Keeping my eyes and ears open for the restored bigboy just because of this video!!! thanks steve!!!
Abandoned Steve I would hate to wait for that train at a railcrossing in the level prarie pulling a full boxcar load...just outside of town slowing down. That is alot of hauling power!!!
Thank you for this video!! I have only seen the Big Boy in photos before. l had forgotten they were articulated. They weighed @1.2 million pounds. Really really big. As big as 4 "heavy" jetliners.
We use to have the 4014 BIG BOY here in Pomona Ca. until UP came and took it. It's going to be restored, check out my channel for the moving BIG BOY back on the mainline, and on it's way to get restored
In order to comply with FRA regulations a second sight glass would need to be added, a form four calculation completed on the boiler, and most likely reflued, as well as complying with the CFR part 230 regulations. After that it would be legal. If on an insular railroad, the locomotive would need to pass a hydro test and be inspected by a PA state boiler inspector. After that it would be legal to run...although it may not run correctly being out of time or such. And lubrication added on everything moving. The air compressor would probably not start or work correctly, as neither would the air brakes without being thoroughly cleaned.
Actually steam locomotives are not used in other countries anymore except in museums or the occasional engine in use on a very low budget railroad in a third world country. Cuba still has some in regular use though. Nice video
You might contact the Cass scenic railway state park in WV they may not know about that shay they always are looking for them for there outstanding collection of running ones there may be parts useful to them on this one .
John Siders Agreed Cass railway has experience with shays and c perhaps this one could be of interest to them if only for parts Thor their operating fleeth
you should definitely try to do an abandoned car lot or yard and/or plane and/or boat graveyard. ive always loved cars and trucks ( uti student and currently going there) and my dad navy man of 33 yrs and always have been interested in boats and planes and there engines. i would love to see those in the future
Yeah, seeing that poor Shay at Steamtown in Scranton Pennsylvania always made me sad. Just seeing it sit there, all broken down and rusting in the elements :(
I visited the Ford Transportation Museum near Detroit many years ago where I saw a huge locomotive there that was said to be the biggest in the world. (Of course, we all know "the world" ends at the US Borders). I believe it was named after some eastern US mountain range but I could be wrong about that. As well, we were told by the museum guide that it was built to haul military equipment and huge operational guns across the country in the event of an invasion ... (by Canadians??? Oh dear no, even with tongue in cheek, I should never have suggested that).
That shay should go to the Durbin Rocket because she'd be perfect there, and the railroad would have all 3 geared engines too since they have a working Climax, are restoring a Heisler, and would have a shay, and that's the geared engine they are missing, and it's number 1's home state of West Virginia so better yet.
That big boy looks like it was parked there like that as some sort of display piece . There's a town not far from me that has a old steam train parked as one
That Big Boy looks as though it ran on a Flux Capacitor at some time or other, maybe you spotted one amongst all that Steel has i am in need of one for my Deloren, I gotta get back too the 20's.
+Randomthing1222 The holes you saw were in the outer sheet metal jacket that covers the insulation that surrounds that actual boiler. the boiler is 1 5/8" thick plate and wouldn't have any holes in it except those purposely put there by ALCO. :)
I'v never seen an engine like this where the pistons are external and connect to the crank slash drive shaft , and the wooden plow I would have never thought something like that would hold up
bumped onto your site, always saddened to see a peice like the shay in that condition, nothing that a big shop coudnt fix, same for the plow lets all get OCD
That Shay may look like a pile of scrap metal, but there are a lot of good usable parts left on it that could be used in the restoration of another one in better condition. Unfortunately the money and man power needed to restore old locomotives is just not there for all of them.
Thanks for sharing this. I've never heard of the shay before. but the big boy is amazingly beautiful in my opinion. wish steam was in use again on the main line.
That is some serious history! Love your videos! Great location!
shane8109 Thanks so much :)
incrrrredible work, Steve. Thanks for putting all the time and effort into this.
smilinachya Thank You. Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for this interesting and educational video. I really love seeing these old train and especially when they are fixed up.
G RJ Your welcome. Glad you enjoyed the video
This two-truck Shay is roughly the same condition as was Mt. Tamalpais & Muir Woods Ry. #7 (Lima Machine Works Class B4 Shay, SerNo 1945) when pulled off the mountain 3 July 1929, along with the frame and trucks of an otherwise burned vertical-tank car she was towing. Both were caught deep in a brush conflagration on the east flank of Mt. Tamalpais when the tracks failed the previous day, the crossties turned to charcoal and the rails softened to the point of buckling.
There is no train to compare in awesomeness as the 4-8-8-4!
as always....friggin AMAZING! thanks for the clip and be safe my friend.
Thanks so much and you be safe on your explores as well!
None of that equipment is abandoned. That's what storage looks like.
These are way way cool, I live in a very small railroad town in Midwest called Pacific, named for this railroad, AWESOME vid & photos, thank you for sharing ! Have a very Merry Happy Holidays Steve... I always get sad when my exploration friends say thanks for watching because I know it's ending .... :) Be blessed my friend ...
Gina Diefenbach Thank Gina and have a happy Holidays and wonderful new year yourself
To those who are bemoaning the condition of the shay (and trust me, there's a reason to), it's not Steamtown's fault. It was a freak-of-nature accident that caused the primary damage. The roof of the building storing the shay collapsed onto it when too much snow piled onto it, causing a structural failure. This seemingly was before its transfer to Steamtown.
The footage while it was raining was very nice. Thank you.
1ballerina thanks, it wasnt fun filming in it though haha
Thanks Steve, Good Job! That 4012 is beautiful.
tarzanzardoz007 Thank You! Yes it is one awesome piece of machinery
Aw man that Union Pacific Big Boy is a BEAST! And I bet it looks like a monster when you're actually seeing it with your own eyes and not through TV or computer screen.
DisasterOnline That will be a cool loco to see when they are finished it. Some many people will be out there when it is rolling down the tracks for it first voyage.
The location is Steamtown Park in Scranton, Pennsylvania part of the national park system and the park system still hasn't funded it so restorations can commence on locomotive's so the can be stored inside. But anything can be brought back from the dead. There is a Cincinnati Curve Side streetcar at Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, Maine that during a museum wide cleanup campaign in 1966, it was just a flat frame with only 30 inches or so of one end of the double ended car remaining, no seats no controllers, 98% of the car was gone. But one member from the west coast was there on his vacation and said hold it your not scrapping it I will restore it and I will pay for it. It took over 30 plus years for him to finish it but if you looked at it today you'd never think it was as bad as it was. No trucks no traction motors no nothing when he started the restoration. The car today looks like it came out of the factory yesterday.
True they need restoration but they are in a museum and eventually will get there due in the shop, they may not run again but they will get restored to just short of operating condition.
Tis better than sitting in a junkyard waiting to be cut up.
what a shame that these locomotives are abandoned they should at least restore some for a future generation to enjoy
Awesome video and pictures Steve.... That 4012 Loco looks about 1 1/2 times longer than our old Preserved Steam Loco's here in the UK. Well done...well worth seeing this...Best wishes...Steve.
***** yea they gave it them name big boy for a reason. Problem with that thing is forget it running on a lot of tourist railroad here today due to the degrees needed for curves and maintenance cost.
There's a Big Boy here in St. Louis at The Museum of Transportation.
This was pretty cool, especially the wooden plow. Thanks for showing us! I had no idea that they used to plow the tracks off.
ladycomet72 oh yea and wait to you see the snow blower version. Pretty amazing
Steve AWESOME video...The BIG BOY is awesome...I am an advid train buff keep them coming.
patrick Gaughan i got a lot more from this place
Thanks for posting. I especially liked the photo at 4:05.
Awesome. Love the Photos!
HIPPIE1255 Thank You!
Love it.-- the photos were great!
Thanks Leisa
We used to have some trains like that here in Petaluma, but I think they got rid of them because they're putting in a smart train through here, to SF.They cleaned up all of the really old stuff. I will say, since I'm here, I really like this subject, all urban decay is interesting, not just old houses. Thanks again!
i try to get everything on film, even if it is not a house or building.
Whether you added captions because your audio was low or not, I applaud any UA-cam video with ACCURATE closed captions. Don't even look at the automatic caption option, those are crap. There are so many people with hearing difficulties that need the captions. So high five!
I agree that the wooden train was scary looking.
Kat Willhite i did the captions myself. It is something i am doing on all my newer videos now. I can agree that youtube butchers the captions when it system tries to figure it out.
I recently started watching an awesome gal ***** and she is HOH and she has pointed out how exhausting it is to try and read lips and/or turn up the volume so loud she might get noise complaints from her neighbors when she watches videos without CC.
I am catching up on your videos, I am way behind!
The NJ Museum of Transportation/Pine Creek RR at Allaire State Park in NJ has an operational Shay.
+Anon Nymous Is the Shay the one with upright cylinders? Never seen one like that.
+Sam King Yes. They had upright cylinders, driving the wheels via reduction gears, instead of driving rods. They were used mostly in mountainous areas, a lot of logging companies used them. Anywhere a high torque, low speed application was preferable. They were also largely narrow gauge.
***** Thanks for the reply! I went and looked at some better pictures and it also looked like they sent power back to the tender car, turning all the wheels in to drivers. Imagine the torque these things would produce!
+Sam King Yup, the tender was powered as well. A lot of logging, and, mining routes they were used on had grades that would have been completely impossible for any other locomotive.
+Anon Nymous No they don't,
The Big Boy is at Steam Town in Scranton PA and When I was there a few years ago they had steam cleaned it and were doing a cosmetic restoration on it, I also believe it now has a shed over it, but can not swear to it. I remember that engine when it was in Steam Town when it was in Bellows Falls VT some time back in the late 60's or early 70's.
+emdman1959 I was there just recently and the big boy is outside.
A shame that some rail museum wont takes these historical locos and cars to restore and put on display. If nothing else put them some where that will protect them from the weather and possible vandals. These pre WW II steam locos are almost rare to very rare, especially those that could be restored to running condition. Hope you have more railroad oriented videos. Starting to enjoy these.* * * * * Thanks for the tour, need a little more details about the loco's and car's that you show. Like road name and the type of car or loco it is and maybe when it was used and where it was used.* * * * * //es// A Proud Honorable Disabled American Veteran, 1967-1994 - Combat Medicine.
+ShellyAnn1a I plan to have more. Thanks for watching
+LOVEIsDasani - You are very welcome. It was my pleasure to serve this nation and her people.
+ShellyAnn1a I appreciate your service!
+ShellyAnn1a This is in a rail museum you dingus. Actually a railroad museum that is a national park. Steamtown National Park in Scranton PA.
DRGW168 My comment I believe was meant to cover all the old historic power units that are left to deteriorating on sidings or in wrecking yards around the country. And, if this loco is in a museum, it sure does not look like it has a very good conservation department and the background does not lend to the idea that it is in a museum. Besides I live on the west coast and have little knowledge of the parks and such on the east coast. Another point, what is it with the need of calling people names because they make a mistake or did not have enough information to know the whole truth of the situation? Can't you children of today be polite to others without all the name calling and insults.
//es// A Proud Honorable Disabled American Veteran, 1967-1994.
Everything thing in the video should had a cover over it. I hate to see such historical items go to rust. Cannot believe that's how these relics are treated. Wish I was a very wealthy man. I would buy and preserve them.
I bet that Shay could help get the el Dorado Shay going again. It’s about 95% complete
when i saw this video i cried a bit.anny1 else feel sad?
these are all at a railroad museum in Scranton pa, the big-boy right now is going through a cosmetic restoration and the rest are on static display, and better to be in bad shape now and be seen now rather then having been scrapped back in the 60s or 70s, just nice that old steam engines are still in existence even in bad shape
Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
Michelle Ware your welcome. thanks for watching
Its amazing how at Steamtown, they just let you wander through out the yard, only to say, "Watch out, there could be moving trains."
Mr. Yo Video Productions i know, it was great hearing that!
The only thing is last Friday when I went it was so cold that it was snowing, but I still had a great time.
Just beautiful !
It's a lot of work to restore an old locomotive but it worth the effort
+Thomas Wheat yes it is
I'm gonna build a railroad
The steam locomotive is the perfect target for preservation and restoration. It is a beautiful machine that is not just some cold, lifeless piece of metal, it is a living breathing organism. If you are looking for some smiles on little kids' faces, look no further than your local heritage railroad with a steam locomotive. Operating or not, steam locomotives bring smiles to everyone! If you want to continue to see smiles, make a small donation to your local heritage museum, ANY amount is helpful!
Donate and volunteer today! Your donations and volunteer work will be put towards preserving and making new living history! Any donations or volunteer work is welcome! Help preserve living history today and donate and volunteer at your local railroad museum!
Many events go on through out the year of a steam heritage museum. One of these events is Tomas days were a Tomas train is pushed by trains at the museum. Little children love this! It is also very, very profitable! Volunteering is easy! No need to unscrew bolts and lift heavy pieces, all you have to do is make sure everyone is having a good time. ANYONE can do it. All the profits will be put towards preserving and restoring living history!
Very, very easy, easy to preserve the past! Little effort needed!
Here is a long list of steam locomotives which can be restored and preserved: 2, 3, 13, 17, 29, 63, 93, 112, 175, 197, 202, 261, 385, 464, 470, 482, 484, 486, 488, 489, 502, 506, 576, 592, 611, 630, 643, 700, 759, 765, 844, 1218, 1223, 1225, 1258, 1309, 1361, 1504, 1518, 1604, 1630, 1795, 2100, 2101, 2124, 2156, 2467, 2500, 2542, 2716, 2749, 2933, 3001, 3003, 3007, 3424, 3977, 3985, 4003, 4004, 4005, 4006, 4008, 4012, 4014, 4017, 4018, 4023, 4100, 4294, 4449, 4460, 4500, 4501, 4516, 4524, 4978, 5017, 5629, 6755, 7002, 8300, 8305, 8327 and 9000 are out there waiting for a visit to the shops and overhauled. Then fire up the boilers and enjoy the wonders of steam. Everyone will thank you. Pull excursion trains with them and watch the public stare in awe at the locomotive and wonder, "Why wasn't this restored earlier?" Happy, happy days!
Short but still sweet ! Thanks
jim ogle Yea sometime things have to be short but still can show off some cool stuff
Great job. I especially like the pictures at the end of the video that were in black and white; then color.
Cary Huff Thank You. Glad you enjoyed the pictures
Beautiful images.
+AKA NGL Thank You
Loved looking at the unrestored train at the start, awsome!!! That bigboy doesn't fall short of the name. wonder how much horsepower that produces. I think i have seen a snowplow being used fairly recently like the one in your vid. Urbex dosen't describle the quality of these vids, but Urban archeologist videographer doesn't have that ring to it. Keeping my eyes and ears open for the restored bigboy just because of this video!!! thanks steve!!!
alibabafurball looking up some stats, it says it had over 6000 horsepower and weighted over 760,000 Lbs.
Abandoned Steve I would hate to wait for that train at a railcrossing in the level prarie pulling a full boxcar load...just outside of town slowing down. That is alot of hauling power!!!
alibabafurball haha same here!
Thank you for this video!! I have only seen the Big Boy in photos before. l had forgotten they were articulated. They weighed @1.2 million pounds. Really really big. As big as 4 "heavy" jetliners.
When you're right next to the Big Boy, you really get a sense of how freaking huge it really is.
Giordan Diodato yep exactly what i said when i saw it myself
Nice video keep up the work
Thanks for watching :)
Those trains are awesome!
We use to have the 4014 BIG BOY here in Pomona Ca. until UP came and took it. It's going to be restored, check out my channel for the moving BIG BOY back on the mainline, and on it's way to get restored
My home town in Ontario Canada has one of these on display, the unusual drive-train is ideal for logging purposes
ONE OF THESE SHAY ENGINES IN CADILLAC MICHIGAN WAS A LOGGING ENGINE..............
they look abit scary. great video steve
***** Thank You
I really hope to see the shay back on the rails as a historical attraction.
RichyRich9120 i hope so too!
A sad sight to see the biggest steam locomotive all worn out.
+James Simrell i agree
+James Simrell Wait a few years, a Big Boy will run again, can't wait!
+James Simrell What makes you think it's worn out?
+DRGW168 You have a point, I'm sure it could be fired up and ran the way it sits, it may not be safe but it probably could.
In order to comply with FRA regulations a second sight glass would need to be added, a form four calculation completed on the boiler, and most likely reflued, as well as complying with the CFR part 230 regulations. After that it would be legal. If on an insular railroad, the locomotive would need to pass a hydro test and be inspected by a PA state boiler inspector. After that it would be legal to run...although it may not run correctly being out of time or such. And lubrication added on everything moving. The air compressor would probably not start or work correctly, as neither would the air brakes without being thoroughly cleaned.
I went to Scranton recently and I didn't see the shay locomotive unless it was in the parts that I didn't check
Poor engines, the shay is done for...
But on the bright side Engine 4014 is being restored (4014 is the same loco as 4012 in the video).
***** Yea i been following the progress on 4014.
Not the Shay! It breaks my heart to see a geared locomotive in that bad of a condition :'(
Actually steam locomotives are not used in other countries anymore except in museums or the occasional engine in use on a very low budget railroad in a third world country. Cuba still has some in regular use though. Nice video
Northwest Railfan are you sure b/c I been to Germany and Switzerland a year ago and rode on there daily transportation which was steam locos
Abandoned Steve they are used only for excursion trains.
You might contact the Cass scenic railway state park in WV they may not know about that shay they always are looking for them for there outstanding collection of running ones there may be parts useful to them on this one .
John Siders Agreed Cass railway has experience with shays and c perhaps this one could be of interest to them if only for parts Thor their operating fleeth
It's way too small for their purposes, That's why they traded one of the smaller shays to the B&O Museum to get the WM 6.
These ones are owned by steam town not abandoned though
where Is that Shay locomotive? It would make a good parts locomotive for the shay here in Ottawa, Ont, Canada
you should definitely try to do an abandoned car lot or yard and/or plane and/or boat graveyard. ive always loved cars and trucks ( uti student and currently going there) and my dad navy man of 33 yrs and always have been interested in boats and planes and there engines. i would love to see those in the future
circarem sure can, just need to find one in my area.
So sad to see them in such a state of decay
sfbfriend i agree
The shay has officially entered the shop at steamtown scranton for full restoration 2 weeks ago and is being worked on. 🎉
Good to hear!
Yeah, seeing that poor Shay at Steamtown in Scranton Pennsylvania always made me sad. Just seeing it sit there, all broken down and rusting in the elements :(
I agree, my sun's a train enthusiast and his favorite freight train is a 2 truck shay.
What street that old locomoutieve
I visited the Ford Transportation Museum near Detroit many years ago where I saw a huge locomotive there that was said to be the biggest in the world. (Of course, we all know "the world" ends at the US Borders). I believe it was named after some eastern US mountain range but I could be wrong about that. As well, we were told by the museum guide that it was built to haul military equipment and huge operational guns across the country in the event of an invasion ... (by Canadians??? Oh dear no, even with tongue in cheek, I should never have suggested that).
Those Shays are interesting to me. I live about 30mi from Lima, where they were made.
Sad they have been left to rot.
That shay should go to the Durbin Rocket because she'd be perfect there, and the railroad would have all 3 geared engines too since they have a working Climax, are restoring a Heisler, and would have a shay, and that's the geared engine they are missing, and it's number 1's home state of West Virginia so better yet.
that Shay engine is far too gone a shame
ugh the abandoned trains big boy 4884 was in trainz 2009
Wow that ancient old Shay had electricity. Its turbine generator is right behind the smokestack.
this is the steamtown national historic site in Scranton PA for those who don't know
That big boy looks like it was parked there like that as some sort of display piece . There's a town not far from me that has a old steam train parked as one
classicxl There are quite a bit of them parked at this place for display
Make a great focal point in a Steam Punk bar.
Could I use this video as mine for views please?
Wow you went to Steamtown NHS! Not abandoned!
Shame to see these in disrepair😕🙁
the 4-8-8-4 was the epic find
Bill Salvey def a big boy!
what state was that in?
it is in scranton pa
FYI, the UP is in the process of a complete refurb on a Big Boy, which will then go touring much like the Challenger.
that is epic...i wonder if it will come through PA..
What a shame to let them fade and waste away.
+WILLIE JONES i agree
The big boy locomotive 4012 is in good condition and it's on static display
this steam town right?
yes
where is steam town?
Scranton Pa.
steve
That Big Boy looks as though it ran on a Flux Capacitor at some time or other, maybe you spotted one amongst all that Steel has i am in need of one for my Deloren, I gotta get back too the 20's.
I have a abandon old school in Lowell IN it is creapy
4012 (Big boy) isn't abandoned its getting restored
RRIA AMERICA so is 4014
I'm from Harbor Springs, Michigan the home of the inventor, of Shay locomotives.
That big boy is in good condition maybe it still works?
it does not work sadly
Lookin at the big boy and was like it's not bad? Then saw holes In boiler
+Randomthing1222 The holes you saw were in the outer sheet metal jacket that covers the insulation that surrounds that actual boiler. the boiler is 1 5/8" thick plate and wouldn't have any holes in it except those purposely put there by ALCO. :)
+Randomthing1222 Going off of what Bryan said, it is also a main exhibit of the museum and is kept up pretty well.
+ExcessMean did they remove the asbestos from under the jacket?
Probably not
Imagine that power that Union Pacific puts out
I'v never seen an engine like this where the pistons are external and connect to the crank slash drive shaft , and the wooden plow I would have never thought something like that would hold up
Earl V Yea that what was cool about a Shay locomotive.
The big boy is in excursion service and some are not
BB4012 needs to be under a roof. From the looks of the rust and corrosion on it, The museum's preservation efforts need some refocus!
What a shame to let a piece of Americana just rot like that,beautiful old train.
jardinmare yea i know. It sucks
bumped onto your site, always saddened to see a peice like the shay in that condition, nothing that a big shop coudnt fix, same for the plow lets all get OCD
Bill Porter p
the UP4018 big boy is being completely remanufactured , it was chosen as the easiest to do
Its a shame,but it still impressive just they way they are.. Im surprised the smaller one has even made it this long without getting the torch.
Jason1Pa Steamtown tends to try and keep them but there is a lot of them including this one which are beyond repair
wow 5 stars on crazy trains and rusty railtrack
i have been there,it is awsome and there are a lot of abandoned track and trains that they do not use
jared daniel yes jared, they have so much stuff to see!
How time has passed...
***** i wish i could go back in time to see these used everyday
Shays are hard to come by. It's a shame they are letting it rot away
Those were REAL trains
The big boy isn't abandoned, it's on display at Scranton.
That Shay may look like a pile of scrap metal, but there are a lot of good usable parts left on it that could be used in the restoration of another one in better condition. Unfortunately the money and man power needed to restore old locomotives is just not there for all of them.
Really sad that they have let Meadow River Lumber Company - 1fall into such bad shape.
I'm gunna go over there and take that loose coupler.
It's a shame the geared Loco. can't be saved, the Big Boy however appears to be in great condition. I wonder if UP would like to restore 2 Big Boys?…
Trevor Bazis that would be nice. Probably do not have the money to do another one.