@@jorgelenny47 your not allowed to spend gold on items only stat anvils for the prismatic shardholder once you have the prismatic shardholder obtained you can buy as you please
It's weird that he got AD right off the bat though, because riot does code the adaptive to make it champion-specific in case you don't have any stats from items. I remember reading abt it in some patch notes. Maybe they didn't bother for brand because there's no way you don't build any AP on him lol
@@Warriorfall its actully not champ specific thats a lie its based on there base stats and which value is higher and because you cant havemore ap than ad at the start your adaptive will always be ad till you buy an ap item to offset it which is why you need an ap item to force adaptive to ap instead of ad
@@wolfdeathnogames5314Nope that’s simply not true. Had the same debate on twitter, it’s very clearly hard coded for some champs to have AP adaptive. It’s worked like this for years on summoners rift, they just fucked it in arena for some reason.
Riot really needs to update adaptive force so that it is on a per-champ basis, and THEN it gets overridden by items. This is something I haven't understood for a long time, I don't know why it's like this. This way if you build AD items on an AP champ, it will switch over, but if not it defaults to AP
It's weird that this setting (that is present on Summoner's Rift) doesn't get transferred to Arena automatically. Unless it does, but it's specifically Brand that is not adjusted on the Rift too :D
i havent finished all the video yet but brand passive counts as a skill too, thats why it procs nami's E and stacks phenomenal evil, in case you don't know
The op thing about phenomenal evil on champs like brand is that it has an internal cooldown "per ability" but Brand passive and certain other dots(Lillia Passive) have no cooldown and count as 1 ability, so they just permanently give stacks every time they tick.
Whoa, so they nerfed it because it was abused by dot champs, yet the biggest abusera of it still abuse it, while it became weaker than silver ap augments for almost every other champion. Hope next patch will change something about that.
It's like that 5 second cooldown per ability part was added exclusively to target Singed or something. Phenomenal Evil is slightly less good on Swain now, except he has three other abilities to hit people with.
You're getting the Phenominal stacks from the Brand passive, applying it counts as a seperate spell and then it gives you ap every 5 seconds (aslong as it is active)
as someone that plays brand in arena a lot, this is exactly how it is. mediocre shards, weird off-type augments and ad/tank prismatic item. getting good augs and item is rare
phenom gives 2 ap per spell hit on brand? i would guess its from applying his passive but there's no cooldown on it; maybe each passive application counts as a unique spell hit? absolute spaghetti
i think the phenom stacks once with each ability and ur passive stacks individually aswell but with no cd between each different ability so in one combo instead of 3 ap your getting 6 and the explosion does 7 and another burn aking it 8. Idk tho lol
Theres an Interesting bug when you get AD-APt and lich bane btw. For some reason Lich Bane removes AP from you and when you sell and undo you can go negative AP. No Negative AP does not give you infinite damage like I thought it would in some kind of wrap around spaghetti. But an interesting bug that lost me an AP ezreal game lmao
Can you test sylas with marksmage? I think it is bugged somehow and the passive is using the 130% ad scaling from the augment. So we get the 30%, if I'm not mistaken, from ap and 130% of that ap too bcs of marksmage. I'm saying this bcs I picked it yesterday and did 10k damage with 200 ap only on the first round with just the augment. It's sussy but hilarious
Thankfully, they nerfed Phenomenal Evil to no longer give 2 stacks per second for champs with damage over time effects. Unfortunately, Brand still has his trait DoT counted as a unique ability cast, on top of the explosion also being considered a unique ability cast. They seriously need to fix that.
1. Passive burn 2. Passive detonation 3. Another passive burn proc from the burn being refreshed by the detonation (5 sec has passed) 4. Q 5. W 6. E 7. R This is why phenomenal evil stacks so fast on brand and why gambler's blade is the funniest shit ever on brand, I got like 22000 gold in one game I'm also pretty sure that stack 1, 2 and 3 of his blaze counts as separate abilities, so he essentially procs shit 10+ times in one combo
im pretty sure adaptive force has a default choice per champ and then looks at items to choose what to boost, idk why brand's default is AD but if you had even the AP starter item it would go to AP. you could have 10000 AP from anvils and it would still give AD
dematerialize (and potentially other sources of adaptive force, I'm not sure) in arena seems to always default to physical, I had the same issue on nautilus where I was getting a bunch of AD because I was going tank items, even though his adaptive type is magic.
Hello bro I watch your content but I dont play league since a while ago I remember that in the old 2v2v2v2 I win a match with Singed 1v2 (4 rounds in 1v2) since I had vengeance, the one that heals you when you move and the other one that gives you ap for tick of poison (now pretty nerf) I think that a really really REALLy peak content would be a game where you win 1v2 (literally, like, after round 5 your teammate just dc or die un purpose) Is it so imposible to make? you are the only master of arena content, perhaps there's a chance but ofc it would be a lot of time trying to acomplish such thing Greetings from Argentina
Hello you need to try play on Singed, gambler blade is so broken on him cause his first skill literally caunt everytime you do damage, if you will roll augment with first skill of singed on singed it is even worse I have done about 23000 gold from gambler in one game
imagine anti heal augment or anti anti heal augment(so anti heal dosnt work on u unless its a zone anti heal) that would be so funny XD and lets say anti anti heal augment would be countred only by anti heal augment
I think that pehnomenal evil stacking from every Brand's passive tick has something to do with the fact that passive itself has up to two stacks and explodes at 3 and is coded as ability, therefore 'poison' part is propably also treated as ability.
Ornn specific change for Arena: Instead of upgrading items, now grants a permanent discount on Anvils for the team: -100 Gold for Stat Bonus Anvil, -200 Gold for Legendary Item Anvils, and -250 Gold for Prismatic Item Anvil. You can see the prismatic costing 3750 at the same time frame.
I find it a shame that there are so little augments for dashes other than earthwake or resistances/ms. I'd love to see something like increased dash range, maybe an augment called "flash dash" which would make every dash work like flashes or maybe repulsor dashes, so using a dash would push people away. Idk how tough the balancing would be, but it would make for a more fun experience imo.
They actually just announced today that one of the new augments coming is "trailblazer", and augment that lights a nearby enemy on fire when you use a dash or blink. Perfect timing for the comment lol
There're also "Dashing"; "Now you see me"; silver augment that give bonus MS after a dash; "Restart" to let you burst 2 rotation instantly in a short time; Mirage blade to refund your dash skills; Voltalic legendary. And then you can play with other synergies that take advantage of MS and slows, energize, zooming when you haven't taken dmg. Those are plenty of options in how I'm seeing. The real losers of this arena mode are adcs, all their synergies are literally nothing but "huh duh more exponential dmg and ever increasing dmg per round only", with the only fun things being "Draw your sword", Scoped weapon, moonflair blade, . In comparison to AP carries: Big brain getting shield from AP; Demonic embrace with MS boost active; Minds to matters getting HP from mana; plenty of overlap with Heal and shield and become "drain fighting enchant mage"
yes you can buy an item after shardholder and it doesnt remove the stats, no i didnt want to do that until i had to
Can you not get shard holder if you have any item? So you actually are forced to sell the round 3 prizzy item if you go anvils?
@@jorgelenny47 you can keep the round 3 prismatic and still get the shard
@@chromar1241was ab to say that
@@jorgelenny47 your not allowed to spend gold on items only stat anvils for the prismatic shardholder once you have the prismatic shardholder obtained you can buy as you please
14:00 Adaptive doesn't work with stat anvils. Riot coding only counts item stats prob
Yeah its pretty funny
It's weird that he got AD right off the bat though, because riot does code the adaptive to make it champion-specific in case you don't have any stats from items. I remember reading abt it in some patch notes.
Maybe they didn't bother for brand because there's no way you don't build any AP on him lol
@@Warriorfall its actully not champ specific thats a lie its based on there base stats and which value is higher and because you cant havemore ap than ad at the start your adaptive will always be ad till you buy an ap item to offset it which is why you need an ap item to force adaptive to ap instead of ad
@@wolfdeathnogames5314 no they have champ specific adaptive force for summoners rift, it was not implemented for arena
@@wolfdeathnogames5314Nope that’s simply not true.
Had the same debate on twitter, it’s very clearly hard coded for some champs to have AP adaptive.
It’s worked like this for years on summoners rift, they just fucked it in arena for some reason.
The instant cut-offs when you lose will never not be funny, keep it up nidgoatt❤
dude actually doubled his ap casually in the last round with a single item purchase
Riot usually doesn't make special adaptive cases for a ton of champs. So it just defaults to ad and then goes off items
the dog message make them dc XD riot
Riot really needs to update adaptive force so that it is on a per-champ basis, and THEN it gets overridden by items. This is something I haven't understood for a long time, I don't know why it's like this. This way if you build AD items on an AP champ, it will switch over, but if not it defaults to AP
It IS hard-coded like that, but apparently not for Arena
It's weird that this setting (that is present on Summoner's Rift) doesn't get transferred to Arena automatically. Unless it does, but it's specifically Brand that is not adjusted on the Rift too :D
Been loving the videos recently hope this one is also a banger
i havent finished all the video yet but brand passive counts as a skill too, thats why it procs nami's E and stacks phenomenal evil, in case you don't know
Wohoooo, KingNidhogg arena video dropped
The op thing about phenomenal evil on champs like brand is that it has an internal cooldown "per ability" but Brand passive and certain other dots(Lillia Passive) have no cooldown and count as 1 ability, so they just permanently give stacks every time they tick.
Didn't they fix the dot for it? I read that in a previous patch, has 2.5 second on dots presumably?
Whoa, so they nerfed it because it was abused by dot champs, yet the biggest abusera of it still abuse it, while it became weaker than silver ap augments for almost every other champion. Hope next patch will change something about that.
Each brand tick counts as a different ability for phenomenal evil
someone doesnt read patch notes
It's like that 5 second cooldown per ability part was added exclusively to target Singed or something. Phenomenal Evil is slightly less good on Swain now, except he has three other abilities to hit people with.
just in time for my lunch break :D what a blessing
Phenomenal Evil works with Brand pasive so every tick of the pasive counts as a +1 for PE. Didn't try it with Lillia but probably works with her too
You're getting the Phenominal stacks from the Brand passive, applying it counts as a seperate spell and then it gives you ap every 5 seconds (aslong as it is active)
I think reapplying your passive once you cast a new ability also counts. So you actually get 2 ap per spell cast.
Adc till last round. Liked it.
Brand passive burning and passive explosion is 2 separate abilities, meaning you have 6 different abilities to get AP from...
imagine u got the augment that converts u ad into ap
you can hotkey 1 2 3 or q w e the augments and the stat shards? is that what you ment?
WHAT WAS THAT AP JUMP HOLY MOLY
Wow...8sec ago; love the Videos my man; Keep up ur great work, we appreciate it
as someone that plays brand in arena a lot, this is exactly how it is.
mediocre shards, weird off-type augments and ad/tank prismatic item.
getting good augs and item is rare
how does one make the w hitobx highlited like that
You should’ve gone phenomenal marks evil mage!!!!
i wish i had seen the 1000 ad adc brand build
i like how phenominal gives stacks for every brand passive tick lol
I couldve sworn adaptive force was based off the damage youve dealt that game. I guess I was thinking of camille's passive lol
11:56 I think Riot should add where you can get mana from stat anvils
12:35 i think he should have kept it, it went from 497 ap to 762
yeah, how does that work anyway? didn't get how he got 265 AP out of an item that gives 55
@@LuizH. it flipped his adaptive force from AD to AP
Seems that brand proc phenomenal off the passive burn ? But still 5 sec per target.
Stat shards not counting towards adaptive seems really odd :L Hopefully that's something they fix.
Do you think this strat would work without ornn. My friend and I suck ass at the champ but want to try the stat shard path once at least XD
Ornn makes stat shards much cheaper, so you can get more of those. Besides Ornn maybe you can play TF or Pyke to farm more money for the stat shards.
@@azelynhirano7737 sounds good
@@azelynhirano7737 Draven could also farm some money, but he's a bad stats user bc he has no utility and cdr is useless
old tooltip jumpscare I CANNOT believe they thought it was reasonable to have demat give 30 adaptive
Gotten 2.4k AP with Chogath, ad to ap w/ manamune, mage items, anf bloodlords mail. You shoild try it
phenom gives 2 ap per spell hit on brand? i would guess its from applying his passive but there's no cooldown on it; maybe each passive application counts as a unique spell hit? absolute spaghetti
U should try on hit singed. I just have to get the augment that applies on hit with ability
Just when i wake up
i think the phenom stacks once with each ability and ur passive stacks individually aswell but with no cd between each different ability so in one combo instead of 3 ap your getting 6 and the explosion does 7 and another burn aking it 8. Idk tho lol
YO SAMIRA MIRAGE BLADE TRY IT ITS CRAZY IF YOU ALSO GET SPIN TO WIN + THE ONE THAT MAKES U CC IMMUNE ON ULT ITS ACTUALLY CRAZY
Theres an Interesting bug when you get AD-APt and lich bane btw. For some reason Lich Bane removes AP from you and when you sell and undo you can go negative AP. No Negative AP does not give you infinite damage like I thought it would in some kind of wrap around spaghetti. But an interesting bug that lost me an AP ezreal game lmao
recognise the music so much but can't place it, is it like fucking ni no kuni or smth
Can you test sylas with marksmage? I think it is bugged somehow and the passive is using the 130% ad scaling from the augment. So we get the 30%, if I'm not mistaken, from ap and 130% of that ap too bcs of marksmage. I'm saying this bcs I picked it yesterday and did 10k damage with 200 ap only on the first round with just the augment.
It's sussy but hilarious
NidHogg pls try ap master yi + yummi, healing and burning
0:30 why is brand default adaptive AD instead of ap????
Thankfully, they nerfed Phenomenal Evil to no longer give 2 stacks per second for champs with damage over time effects.
Unfortunately, Brand still has his trait DoT counted as a unique ability cast, on top of the explosion also being considered a unique ability cast. They seriously need to fix that.
1. Passive burn
2. Passive detonation
3. Another passive burn proc from the burn being refreshed by the detonation (5 sec has passed)
4. Q
5. W
6. E
7. R
This is why phenomenal evil stacks so fast on brand and why gambler's blade is the funniest shit ever on brand, I got like 22000 gold in one game
I'm also pretty sure that stack 1, 2 and 3 of his blaze counts as separate abilities, so he essentially procs shit 10+ times in one combo
im pretty sure adaptive force has a default choice per champ and then looks at items to choose what to boost, idk why brand's default is AD but if you had even the AP starter item it would go to AP. you could have 10000 AP from anvils and it would still give AD
commented this literally 5 seconds before you said the exact same thing LOL
dematerialize (and potentially other sources of adaptive force, I'm not sure) in arena seems to always default to physical, I had the same issue on nautilus where I was getting a bunch of AD because I was going tank items, even though his adaptive type is magic.
@@antibehroz7304Bro did you just reply to yourself thinking it was someone else's comment? That just so happened to phrase it in the exact same way?
should have picked phenomenal marksmage >:(
niiice!
I always wanted to ask whos the Ornn? Im in love with his voice >
Hello bro I watch your content but I dont play league since a while ago
I remember that in the old 2v2v2v2 I win a match with Singed 1v2 (4 rounds in 1v2) since I had vengeance, the one that heals you when you move and the other one that gives you ap for tick of poison (now pretty nerf)
I think that a really really REALLy peak content would be a game where you win 1v2 (literally, like, after round 5 your teammate just dc or die un purpose)
Is it so imposible to make? you are the only master of arena content, perhaps there's a chance but ofc it would be a lot of time trying to acomplish such thing
Greetings from Argentina
Veigar with Phenomenal Evil 2x, Dematerializer, Stackasaurus Rex, and Thread the Needle with Void Staff: 🫸🔵🔴🫷🤌🫴🟣
are quest items like wooglet or spatula banned in this challenge?
@@madobricktw8533 yeah he once got spatula quest and said he'll sell it for gold
Wooglet, yes. Since you need to buy 2 items to complete the quest. Spatula is fine, though.
that leo optimization was holy shit bad
ornn's voice is kinda cute ngl
Hybrid brand is op.
Hello you need to try play on Singed, gambler blade is so broken on him cause his first skill literally caunt everytime you do damage, if you will roll augment with first skill of singed on singed it is even worse I have done about 23000 gold from gambler in one game
And of course augment on item heist will help a lot to stuck faster money from gambler
are these still viewer games or is it normal server games? i swear so many people are dcing in your vids but not in my games
this is a regular game. this kinda shit is so disingenuous it feels like such disrespect lmao
imagine anti heal augment or anti anti heal augment(so anti heal dosnt work on u unless its a zone anti heal) that would be so funny XD
and lets say anti anti heal augment would be countred only by anti heal augment
I think that pehnomenal evil stacking from every Brand's passive tick has something to do with the fact that passive itself has up to two stacks and explodes at 3 and is coded as ability, therefore 'poison' part is propably also treated as ability.
how come the anvil cost 650 at 12:36?
Ornn specific change for Arena:
Instead of upgrading items, now grants a permanent discount on Anvils for the team: -100 Gold for Stat Bonus Anvil, -200 Gold for Legendary Item Anvils, and -250 Gold for Prismatic Item Anvil.
You can see the prismatic costing 3750 at the same time frame.
how u buy anvil with 650 and not 750
Ornn
why is his stat shard cost 650 instead of 750?
Ornn makes him and his teammate anvils cost less
should've picked killing time
Why do his stat anvils only cost 650?
Ornn passive in arena
If you play with ornn, you get a 100 gold discount from every anvil purchase.
why do u cut all of your deaths out lol
google "humor"
Can y play teemo arena? Im following you for 10 years, never seen you play teemo. One time for your 10 year subscriber??? Pls
What's up with these people and being upset with you and having options?
clothes line with phenomenal evil is kinda diabolical
@@xril5721 theoretically it only triggers once every 5s so it shouldn't be OP unless it's broken
I find it a shame that there are so little augments for dashes other than earthwake or resistances/ms. I'd love to see something like increased dash range, maybe an augment called "flash dash" which would make every dash work like flashes or maybe repulsor dashes, so using a dash would push people away. Idk how tough the balancing would be, but it would make for a more fun experience imo.
They actually just announced today that one of the new augments coming is "trailblazer", and augment that lights a nearby enemy on fire when you use a dash or blink. Perfect timing for the comment lol
"increased dash range"
Lol, the amount of bugs would be insane.
@@firesong7825 yeah ahahah my first thought was "no way riot could make that work"
There're also "Dashing"; "Now you see me"; silver augment that give bonus MS after a dash; "Restart" to let you burst 2 rotation instantly in a short time; Mirage blade to refund your dash skills; Voltalic legendary. And then you can play with other synergies that take advantage of MS and slows, energize, zooming when you haven't taken dmg. Those are plenty of options in how I'm seeing.
The real losers of this arena mode are adcs, all their synergies are literally nothing but "huh duh more exponential dmg and ever increasing dmg per round only", with the only fun things being "Draw your sword", Scoped weapon, moonflair blade, . In comparison to AP carries: Big brain getting shield from AP; Demonic embrace with MS boost active; Minds to matters getting HP from mana; plenty of overlap with Heal and shield and become "drain fighting enchant mage"
Ornn
you seriously didn't go marksmage? I'm starting to think you're not a real gamer and only a non-real gamer.
jk good gamin'
you skip so many high or max hp rolls...................
oh shit im in control of the game? crazy
5:48 Should've went Killing Time :/
one of the most dreaded champs in general. god damn hes everywhere. sick vid erick, made this boring ass character look fun