In this video, I am comparing two vintage Yamaha keyboards. The 2 operator PSS560 to the 4 operator DSR2000. Which one sounds better?? FREE SAMPLE PACK: freesound.org/people/Crabflag...
I would personally highly recommend one of the newer PSS-580/480/680/780 models instead of the 560 or any of the other yamaha models with a similar sound engine to the 560. The 580 and other models on that range have much better control over the parameters of the engine for a much more varied set of sound creation and editing. Not to mention that these models also include MIDI! Had a 580 for a couple years now and it's been lot's of fun.
On the PSS 560 the digital synth sliders are best, initially, all set to the 3 mark. This gives you the original tone as programmed. This gives you a known point from which to start, much better than randomly sliding things, this allows you to actually program it with intent! ....... & then stick it through some guitar pedals I read about this in the comments section on another UA-cam video, and it makes programming quite a joy, not often said about Yamaha's FM synths from this time. 😁 Also the DSR 2000 is going to cost you around £200 whereas a Yamaha with the 6x 5 position slider digital synth you can get for under £50! If you want a slightly deeper 'paddle' into 'FM synths' then try the Yamaha PSS 480 Music Station range (The same 2 operator FM synthesizer was also used for the 580, 680 and 780). These synths from the end of the 1980s give you much more, and finer, control of 9 parameters rather than the 5 in the PSS 560.
I picked up a 2000 today. Nice condition! I like the fact it has a midi thru. I've also got so many PSS keyboards now I'm going to devote a wall stand to them. The simple solution is just to have both and a bunch of p22 keyboards.
Actually, the "Digital synthetizer" from the PSS 560 is really good. You have a powerful and funny synthesizer under the ADSR I have this synth at home, and you can connect the chord automation and the synthesizer, and change the sound in a real-time. I consider the PSS 560 still interessant because it has still really raw sounds, if you want something special, indie, low-fi
Great work man, love it when the smaller cheaper keyboards get the love they deserve! I have several of the Yamaha PSS series keyboards, the 480 and 380 being my favorite.
Ebay is your friend here, at least in the UK, though prices vary a lot so don't be in too much of a hurry to buy, research the market first or you might end up paying through the nose.
Any idea the value of a DSR 2000 in 2023? I'm also impressed with it's opponent here. That little board has some attributes. That brassy string sound on it is pretty nice. Perhaps the chorus effect is in play but regardless, very cool.
Plugged in a sustain pedal with wrong polarity, things keep sustaining when its not plugged in, got a new pedal with reversible polarity but don't know what to do, help my family is starving
The PSS 480 has midi, along with most of its siblings! I have now got two of the 480s, the second has a broken key on it but I got it to slave it to my good 480, program them with slightly different sounds and run them as a true stereo rig going through a rake of guitar pedals and VCFs to give them so much more 'life'.
while it is interesting to see how 4op does a slightly better job of sounding like real instruments, obviously this is not where FM is very strong, and it's a not a very useful head to head. In my much lower production value video (ua-cam.com/video/L0VRUqf6jAs/v-deo.html) I went thru every built-in sound on a pss570 and they are all very far from anything real, but as I argue the only true value to these older "toys" is the otherworldly sounds they make that have no real world approximation. It would have been far more interesting to compare fairly similar synth "patches" on these two keyboards. Can the DSR2000 do a better "cosmic", the actual front-panel name of the default instrument on the PSS570?
These Yamaha FM "toys" are hidden treasures.
I wasn't waiting for such a high quality review. Amazing job!
Thanks! These are some surprisingly good keyboards!
Great Video! Came to hear the dsr-2000, stayed for the great sounds! Excited to see more demos showcasing this and some of your other fun synths.
Thanks! glad you enjoyed it.
I would personally highly recommend one of the newer PSS-580/480/680/780 models instead of the 560 or any of the other yamaha models with a similar sound engine to the 560. The 580 and other models on that range have much better control over the parameters of the engine for a much more varied set of sound creation and editing.
Not to mention that these models also include MIDI!
Had a 580 for a couple years now and it's been lot's of fun.
On the PSS 560 the digital synth sliders are best, initially, all set to the 3 mark. This gives you the original tone as programmed. This gives you a known point from which to start, much better than randomly sliding things, this allows you to actually program it with intent! ....... & then stick it through some guitar pedals
I read about this in the comments section on another UA-cam video, and it makes programming quite a joy, not often said about Yamaha's FM synths from this time. 😁
Also the DSR 2000 is going to cost you around £200 whereas a Yamaha with the 6x 5 position slider digital synth you can get for under £50!
If you want a slightly deeper 'paddle' into 'FM synths' then try the Yamaha PSS 480 Music Station range (The same 2 operator FM synthesizer was also used for the 580, 680 and 780). These synths from the end of the 1980s give you much more, and finer, control of 9 parameters rather than the 5 in the PSS 560.
I picked up a 2000 today. Nice condition! I like the fact it has a midi thru. I've also got so many PSS keyboards now I'm going to devote a wall stand to them. The simple solution is just to have both and a bunch of p22 keyboards.
Actually, the "Digital synthetizer" from the PSS 560 is really good. You have a powerful and funny synthesizer under the ADSR
I have this synth at home, and you can connect the chord automation and the synthesizer, and change the sound in a real-time.
I consider the PSS 560 still interessant because it has still really raw sounds, if you want something special, indie, low-fi
Great work man, love it when the smaller cheaper keyboards get the love they deserve! I have several of the Yamaha PSS series keyboards, the 480 and 380 being my favorite.
yeah I have heard lots of good things about the 480!
I just got a PSS480 and it is VERY NICE
I had a DSR 2000 before moving it on. I recall the other synth bass sound being pretty impressive.
I love that part with the bird sound. So good. Got me gigglin ova here. This is what it’s all about
Decent audio quality, difficult to find for these older Yamaha's, most UA-camrs don't seem to care about the audio fidelity. Great showmanship.
Ebay is your friend here, at least in the UK, though prices vary a lot so don't be in too much of a hurry to buy, research the market first or you might end up paying through the nose.
You've convinced me to buy both.....
Any idea the value of a DSR 2000 in 2023? I'm also impressed with it's opponent here. That little board has some attributes. That brassy string sound on it is pretty nice. Perhaps the chorus effect is in play but regardless, very cool.
love this! more DSR2000 content pleasssssssse!!!
I actually have a video with it READY to UPLOAD! 😱
@@crabflag yessssss mate 🙏
Plugged in a sustain pedal with wrong polarity, things keep sustaining when its not plugged in, got a new pedal with reversible polarity but don't know what to do, help my family is starving
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UPDATE: NEW DSR2000 VIDEO ⚠
What are the settings for the flute? It sounds great.
For the PSS560 I used the digital synthesizer with the settings: 3 2 1 2 2 5 and on the DSR-2000 I used Preset 53 and did not change any settings.
I only wish the smaller PSS keyboards had MIDI implementation. I LOVE the PSS390, but the lack of midi is seriously holding it back.
The PSS 480 has midi, along with most of its siblings!
I have now got two of the 480s, the second has a broken key on it but I got it to slave it to my good 480, program them with slightly different sounds and run them as a true stereo rig going through a rake of guitar pedals and VCFs to give them so much more 'life'.
Would love to see the dsr2000 vs the Casio ht6000
all I have is a CASIO CZ500. Where would I get a HT6000?
What are the settings for the horn on the pss 560?
Looks like 4-1-3-3-2-5 (or not far off!) from where I'm sitting. I'll have a mess about tomorrow and see!
I found! It's 524435
Is it windy in your studio, guy? You don't need the dead cat on inside.
Qe precio esta
stavo per comprare una dsr2000...questo video mi ha convinto a comprarla...ahahahah...
while it is interesting to see how 4op does a slightly better job of sounding like real instruments, obviously this is not where FM is very strong, and it's a not a very useful head to head. In my much lower production value video (ua-cam.com/video/L0VRUqf6jAs/v-deo.html) I went thru every built-in sound on a pss570 and they are all very far from anything real, but as I argue the only true value to these older "toys" is the otherworldly sounds they make that have no real world approximation. It would have been far more interesting to compare fairly similar synth "patches" on these two keyboards. Can the DSR2000 do a better "cosmic", the actual front-panel name of the default instrument on the PSS570?
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