Can you do a video comparing Forged Carbon to Weaved Carbon? Would be interesting to know about the differences e.g costs, properties, production etc. As always great video, keep it up!
I think it makes perfect sense that the electric-only range is so short; Lamborghini knows their customer base mostly want the car for it's V12, and you get to crawl around tight and quiet spaces without disturbing the peace too badly. Off-topic; What do you make of Marcos Marques's comments about Audi once considering a RWD, 6-speed manual RS3-engine version of the 2nd gen R8?
"customers want to be able to pull away silently in some situations" showing the german police troubling a golden Lambo owner. Thats exactly the situation where I would pull away with the full anger of a V12! but i get your point XD
Just recently found your channel and have been digging through all the videos - love your technical analysis of the little and big details that is understandable to the layperson. I don't know if it's in your personal interest to make such videos, but I think it would be neat to see a similar analysis of aerodynamic details on more everyday vehicles (VW Golf, etc) and their implications. Either way, thanks for great videos!
Outstanding video which highlighted the important points. The change away from push rod suspension raises a few questions and I am curious about Laptimes and compared to the SVJ. Especially in sectors were power is not the main factor and suspension and weight will be. On the other hand a new car with a V12 without direct injection in 2030 is somewhat nice.
yeah man I know its packaging reasons but damn it will be a different car, thats the only thing keep in me away from buying it aahahahaha, just kidding but I feels it kinda lost a bit of it's identtity and it might be the only downgrade compared to the aventador,( and the added whight for sure, but theres nothing you can do there ) overall very interesting approach, should be an interesting car to drive
This rear wheel haunch thing, the way it's pushed forward (best seen at 8:55), reminds me of the LMP/Hypercar design trends. I wonder if Lamborghini/Ligier are going to adapt this styling element to the LMDh car.
I guess that would mean you need some battery charge for smooth gear changes. It would add complexity and this is still a (simple) V12 car with some electric support.
@@BSport320 you could make a single clutch that is relatively slow and smooth, and let the customers know that if they want fast, smooth changes their battery needs to have a certain degree of charge. Or you could even introduce a button that the customer can press five minutes before he’s at his destination, which will tell the system to charge the lithium battery using regen.. I don’t think this would be a problem for the customers.
But of course, it would add a lot more complexity, at least as far as development is concerned. I personally hate gearboxes except for what Ferrari did for the front wheel drive units on their 12 cylinder cars, that was extremely elegant and clever. Of course, the question is whether your electric motor is on the gearbox output shaft or on the engine side. If you want to starter function, you will need it on the engine side. Hmmmmmm. I guess engineering can be complicated, can’t it?😝😝
So that means the Aventador is a better track car, weaved carbon is lighter and a push rod suspension is more superior than a conventional suspension. minus the electric motor n dct. I think the Aventador should be a better cornering car. Am i correct?
@@BSport320 i mean there are tuners out there that can change the diff on the Aventador. Like when I used to have a Ford mustang I changed my differential to a t2r torsen diff from an open diff. Huge cornering speed n stability difference. in terms of mechanical handling capabilities. Which is superior?
@@AR_434 Well, park your Lambo anywhere and the first thing you'll be asked will be: "How much horsepower does it have?" Nobody will ever ask you how much it weighs, or how well it drives. This way the Lambo owner can say "over 1000" and the onlooker will be awed. Instant success!
@@cashbonanza963 Lamborghini's "dry weight" is bullshit, though. The Aventador's stated dry weight was 1575kg, but the cars weighed 1800kg in reality (without driver). So add the same amount of weight gain to the Revuelto and you are at 2000kg. It's also possible that it could gain less weight than that, but it probably won't.
I'm not sure you can say it's just an update... they changed the whole position of the gearbox after all, not a small change. It's arguably bigger of a shift than when Lambo updated the Diablo to make it the Murcielago, and no one will call the Murcielago just a Diablo as far as I know. Plus you've got all the electric stuff, and with a full carbon tub and more than 1k hp, I'm not sure the Lambo is behind the curve
an update?! the engine has been redesigned from scrath, gearbox totally different... they moved from a pre-preg (top and perimetral parts) and rtm (tub) to a pre-preg (top), rtm (rocker ring and front sub-frame) and forged carbon (tub and front firewall) monocoque; different suspension
So, basically, electric motor is for emissions. I wonder how little/light electric motor can manufacturers put in their "hybrid" car before some emissions agency take notice? Will be funny to see manufacturers say that starter/generator is the whole electric drivetrain
My aunt's kia has a 10hp electric motor coupled to the engine, it is considered a mild hybrid. Enought to make a diference in the city but not to much to much extra weight
It must be getting on for 1950kg wet weight, or maybe 2 ton with passenger. I think Lamborghini is hiding something big with the rear wing, and it's engine note. I'm not sure how it will hide it's weight. Tyres you will need.
I am not terribly impressed. We've been repeatedly told that the Urus is good because the money it makes can be used for the development of the supercars, and they made 10 different special versions of the Aventador - which make the manufacturer look bad but at least it should be bringing them big money - but for their new flagship they still re-use both the monocoque and the engine. The Aventador had a waiting list for almost its entire production run. So where has all the money gone? Not into the chassis, not into the engine, not into any lightweighting efforts judging from how the car is 200kg heavier than the Alu chassis SF90 with a bigger battery... I do love me a big V12 Lamborghini, but on the technical side it's pretty hard to take them seriously. The Aventador was already a big car, but instead of doing a better packaging job with the Revuelto, they instead just make it even bigger (which, inevitably, will make it even heavier)! 79mm longer wheelbase, 24mm taller, 3mm wider, 167mm longer. The scuttle is still high limiting visibility (and hence why they probably had to increase the height instead of making the seat sit lower), the luggage and interior stowage space is still nothing to write home about. The car is reportedly sold out for the next 2-3 years, so that's all good and well, but that's pretty much just them taking advantage of the fact that their clientele has low standards. Does the car look aggressive? Does it sound good? Is it somewhat fast? Yes? Then that's job done!
the rear looks like a McLaren and Centenario. The front like a knock-off Sian and Lykan Hypersport and the buttress area like a Huracan. The spoiler aera has some Corvette vibes as well. I guess this is the reason they call it Revuleto (Spanish for mix; also a Spanish bull).
"forged" is an incorrect term for that technology... it is just to sound "cool"... it is "compressed molding"... In steel, "forged" means "increased properties"... in this case... "forged" means "decreased properties"... Since Murcielago... nothing new in Lambos... it is almost a simple copy-paste...
I feel that supercars should not be made to go electric, they don't do big mileage and often become display pieces. The people that buy them new should be made to donate to environmental projects instead.
This is the best review of the car I've seen so far. Love how you go into so many details. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
@@BSport320 like all you put out. 💪
the first one for me.
I didn't wanned to have missleading first encounter.
"Lamborghini owners want to pull away silently." Lamborghini owners? Silently? :D
Cheating on their spouse LoL
Silent but deadly?
_"In some situations"_
@@lewis7515 Thanks for this valuable input.
@@dr80008 The gamey odor lingers on your top lip.
Can you do a video comparing Forged Carbon to Weaved Carbon? Would be interesting to know about the differences e.g costs, properties, production etc. As always great video, keep it up!
the monocoque is actually made with unidirectional fibers for the structural parts and probably just covered with forged carbon for the looks
Thank you so much for videos you make. The amount of information and knowledge is great, I love your content.
Glad you like them!
Nobody else on UA-cam doing this kind of content at a consistently high quality.
Thanks a lot!
Thanks B Sport for a quick upload on this one. I really like the format! :)
Glad you enjoy it!
Love the technical overview! Keep it up
I think it makes perfect sense that the electric-only range is so short; Lamborghini knows their customer base mostly want the car for it's V12, and you get to crawl around tight and quiet spaces without disturbing the peace too badly.
Off-topic; What do you make of Marcos Marques's comments about Audi once considering a RWD, 6-speed manual RS3-engine version of the 2nd gen R8?
"customers want to be able to pull away silently in some situations"
showing the german police troubling a golden Lambo owner. Thats exactly the situation where I would pull away with the full anger of a V12! but i get your point XD
Just recently found your channel and have been digging through all the videos - love your technical analysis of the little and big details that is understandable to the layperson.
I don't know if it's in your personal interest to make such videos, but I think it would be neat to see a similar analysis of aerodynamic details on more everyday vehicles (VW Golf, etc) and their implications. Either way, thanks for great videos!
Thanks a lot and yes, the aerodynamic features of standard cars were and will be good stuff for videos.
Gorgeous. Can't believe they made the V12 work!
This beautiful beast has become my secound favorite car of all time!!! i love revuelto more than any lambo except murcielago
Excelent video! Do more videos about street cars/ supercars please
Thanks! Will do!
Outstanding video which highlighted the important points. The change away from push rod suspension raises a few questions and I am curious about Laptimes and compared to the SVJ. Especially in sectors were power is not the main factor and suspension and weight will be. On the other hand a new car with a V12 without direct injection in 2030 is somewhat nice.
yeah man I know its packaging reasons but damn it will be a different car, thats the only thing keep in me away from buying it aahahahaha, just kidding but I feels it kinda lost a bit of it's identtity and it might be the only downgrade compared to the aventador,( and the added whight for sure, but theres nothing you can do there ) overall very interesting approach, should be an interesting car to drive
Great as always
Thank you! Cheers!
This rear wheel haunch thing, the way it's pushed forward (best seen at 8:55), reminds me of the LMP/Hypercar design trends. I wonder if Lamborghini/Ligier are going to adapt this styling element to the LMDh car.
Ok so if you have a powerful E motor in your gearbox, why do you need a big, heavy DSG? Why can’t you use the E motor to smooth out the gear changes?
I guess that would mean you need some battery charge for smooth gear changes. It would add complexity and this is still a (simple) V12 car with some electric support.
@@BSport320 you could make a single clutch that is relatively slow and smooth, and let the customers know that if they want fast, smooth changes their battery needs to have a certain degree of charge. Or you could even introduce a button that the customer can press five minutes before he’s at his destination, which will tell the system to charge the lithium battery using regen.. I don’t think this would be a problem for the customers.
But of course, it would add a lot more complexity, at least as far as development is concerned. I personally hate gearboxes except for what Ferrari did for the front wheel drive units on their 12 cylinder cars, that was extremely elegant and clever. Of course, the question is whether your electric motor is on the gearbox output shaft or on the engine side. If you want to starter function, you will need it on the engine side. Hmmmmmm. I guess engineering can be complicated, can’t it?😝😝
@@cashbonanza963 super capacitor = smaller capacity, faster charge and discharge.
So that means the Aventador is a better track car, weaved carbon is lighter and a push rod suspension is more superior than a conventional suspension. minus the electric motor n dct. I think the Aventador should be a better cornering car. Am i correct?
200kg is a lot and it‘s hard to compensate that although the revuelto has torque vectoring and instant torque.
@@BSport320 i mean there are tuners out there that can change the diff on the Aventador. Like when I used to have a Ford mustang I changed my differential to a t2r torsen diff from an open diff. Huge cornering speed n stability difference. in terms of mechanical handling capabilities. Which is superior?
YES,,,,,,,,,,, THIS IS A TRUE LAMBORGHINI NOW ALL WE NEED NOW IS ANOTHER CANNON BALL RUN
lovely video. we are still waiting for the review of the mp4-23 you promised us please B-sport
It's on my long list of future videos, so it will come at some point.
I'm hoping we get a similar hybrid setup r8
I'm curious but what does he mean when he said "conventional suspension" @6:46?
Conventional as in without pushrods, the coilovers act directly on the A arms
@@mullayho1759 Ah right, I just noticed it too after a while. Thank you for clarifying the information for me!
Forged carbon has fibers lined up with the forces applied during manufacture. Similar to forging of metals. #materialscienceftw
The thing is an absolutely spectacular technical package - the looks, could probably have been a little more mature.....
The only thing I'd complain about is it should be geared for a higher top speed than Aventador, other than that it's perfect.
So it weighs 2 tons with fuel and driver?
No, just with fuel. 😅
@@test987665 Come on, that‘s too heavy even if it was a four seater GT…
@@AR_434 Well, park your Lambo anywhere and the first thing you'll be asked will be: "How much horsepower does it have?" Nobody will ever ask you how much it weighs, or how well it drives. This way the Lambo owner can say "over 1000" and the onlooker will be awed. Instant success!
On Lambos website it states that it weights 1772kg "dry". With 50kg of fuel, accessories and an adult I guess it'll be close to 2000kg
@@cashbonanza963 Lamborghini's "dry weight" is bullshit, though. The Aventador's stated dry weight was 1575kg, but the cars weighed 1800kg in reality (without driver). So add the same amount of weight gain to the Revuelto and you are at 2000kg. It's also possible that it could gain less weight than that, but it probably won't.
i would be much better if they removed that battery and electric fwd to make it 300kg lighter
Lovely car. Even though its just an update, I wonder whats the real world performance.
I'm not sure you can say it's just an update... they changed the whole position of the gearbox after all, not a small change. It's arguably bigger of a shift than when Lambo updated the Diablo to make it the Murcielago, and no one will call the Murcielago just a Diablo as far as I know. Plus you've got all the electric stuff, and with a full carbon tub and more than 1k hp, I'm not sure the Lambo is behind the curve
an update?! the engine has been redesigned from scrath, gearbox totally different... they moved from a pre-preg (top and perimetral parts) and rtm (tub) to a pre-preg (top), rtm (rocker ring and front sub-frame) and forged carbon (tub and front firewall) monocoque; different suspension
Impressive feat of engineering fitting all that in there, but; fully e-Lambo when?
So, basically, electric motor is for emissions. I wonder how little/light electric motor can manufacturers put in their "hybrid" car before some emissions agency take notice? Will be funny to see manufacturers say that starter/generator is the whole electric drivetrain
My aunt's kia has a 10hp electric motor coupled to the engine, it is considered a mild hybrid. Enought to make a diference in the city but not to much to much extra weight
@@juanordonezgalban2278 Cool, that means that beefy starter/generator should be enough. What EURO certificate does it have?
Lykan hyper sport?
👍💪✌
I'll wait for the Performante SVJ with battery delete, rwd and a MT ..... in black
200kg heavier is a lot
It must be getting on for 1950kg wet weight, or maybe 2 ton with passenger. I think Lamborghini is hiding something big with the rear wing, and it's engine note. I'm not sure how it will hide it's weight. Tyres you will need.
I am not terribly impressed. We've been repeatedly told that the Urus is good because the money it makes can be used for the development of the supercars, and they made 10 different special versions of the Aventador - which make the manufacturer look bad but at least it should be bringing them big money - but for their new flagship they still re-use both the monocoque and the engine. The Aventador had a waiting list for almost its entire production run. So where has all the money gone? Not into the chassis, not into the engine, not into any lightweighting efforts judging from how the car is 200kg heavier than the Alu chassis SF90 with a bigger battery...
I do love me a big V12 Lamborghini, but on the technical side it's pretty hard to take them seriously. The Aventador was already a big car, but instead of doing a better packaging job with the Revuelto, they instead just make it even bigger (which, inevitably, will make it even heavier)! 79mm longer wheelbase, 24mm taller, 3mm wider, 167mm longer. The scuttle is still high limiting visibility (and hence why they probably had to increase the height instead of making the seat sit lower), the luggage and interior stowage space is still nothing to write home about. The car is reportedly sold out for the next 2-3 years, so that's all good and well, but that's pretty much just them taking advantage of the fact that their clientele has low standards. Does the car look aggressive? Does it sound good? Is it somewhat fast? Yes? Then that's job done!
the monocoque of the aventador and revuelto are not the same... at al
Looks like a Grand Theft Auto car
One of my favorite channels, but please make the intro of the car revving less loud or change it. Hurts my ears every time.
to me, it looks like the lovechild of an Aventador and a McLaren 12C
the rear looks like a McLaren and Centenario. The front like a knock-off Sian and Lykan Hypersport and the buttress area like a Huracan. The spoiler aera has some Corvette vibes as well. I guess this is the reason they call it Revuleto (Spanish for mix; also a Spanish bull).
Porsche money
"forged" is an incorrect term for that technology... it is just to sound "cool"... it is "compressed molding"...
In steel, "forged" means "increased properties"... in this case... "forged" means "decreased properties"...
Since Murcielago... nothing new in Lambos... it is almost a simple copy-paste...
Yes, "forged" is Lamborghini's term for advertisment. As you rightly say it's misleading here.
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a V12 is probably not worth 200Kg but it is not like I will ever be in the market for a Lambo so it is not like my opinions matter haha
I really don't like the look, great video though!
so where is the analysis? you just pointed out it's features ..
hybrid meh, too much weight , too costly , too complex for no benefits at all. if i had money i would go for aventedor still.
Aventador looked so much better. This design is a mistake
If I didn't know the name, I would say it is a McL 😆
I feel that supercars should not be made to go electric, they don't do big mileage and often become display pieces. The people that buy them new should be made to donate to environmental projects instead.
Taxing extra for more poluting cars is already a thing more or less
Cars are getting ever more porky (heavier).