Pretty wild how many announcers will say “Well it’s not helmet to helmet” while watching two dudes hit helmet to helmet in slow motion high definition.
U mean, people getting ejected for playing football, ive been hit so hard ive done a backflip in the air and guess what no penalty. Its football your supposed to get drilled, it builds character
@@Kings0424 buddy obviously its not just me complaining. No one wants to see the conference that has only won the natty like 3 times in the past 25 years😂
@17:30 #17 of Louisville did kick the guy. I don’t blame him at all! The guy he kicked was holding his leg and twisting his ankle, trying to injure him! Well deserved kick! Ref should have flagged them both!
My problem is the judgment calls needed to determine a personal foul vs a targeting call and the inevitable impact on the game. Given the role of judgment in making these calls, two officiating crews could have significant different views of what constitutes targeting, making it difficult for players to know the rules too. For example, a defensive player lowering their head before a hit could be seen as targeting while an offensive player doing the same is fine. Couple that with the player being ejected and you could have a call that massively affects the game that is solely based on the view of the officiating crew with rules that are very difficult to understand given the differences in enforcement. I am all for increasing the safety of the game, but I think they went a bit far with targeting.
On some of these I just don't know. . . . Is the defender just supposed to let the guy catch the ball? ? It's the the defense job to knock the ball loose
Yes, but if you hit a "defenseless reciever" anywhere above the shoelaces the stripey-shirt team will call targeting. You have to let the offensive player make a "football move", which is very poorly defined. But, the refs also have trouble figuring out when a pass is actually caught versus incomplete. Ciach: "He tucked the ball under his arm, ran 27 yards, broke two tackles, then dropped the ball, and that's an incomplete pass to you?" Ref: "Yes. He didn't use his turn signal when changing lanes." Coach: "Wha???"
Can someone answer, is it still targeting if the runner leads with HIS helmet into a defender? Or is it always up to the defender to get lower than the runner is?
Gotta hand it to White, #23 of the Sooners. All the rest of them acted like babies when they were ejected, but White was calm and collected. One of the staff/coaches said something to him, he nodded, then when it was confirmed, he nodded again, and started for the lockers, shaking hands and fist bumping team mates for luck. Very well done, Mr. White. Class act.
Only time I've ever seen or heard anything about targeting not having to be direct helmet to helmet. Literally the description they give of the foul every other time.
Glad you approved. You know, these guys spend most of their lives in the gym, practice and in classrooms while playing at this level. I, for one, can forgive them for being passionate about what they do and expressing frustration when they feel the opportunity was taken from them unfairly. Don't mix up stoic with classy.
@@DuckDodgers69You clearly have low IQ. “Clickbait thumbnails”. The thumbnail is of Andre Johnson and Finnegan, that fight did not happen in a college game. 💀🤡
Editing suggestion: We don't really need 2 minutes of announcers opining about the situation while the refs discuss. Show the play, then the replay then cut to the ref's ejection ruling.
1:48 I love the ref's p*ssed off face as he's on the ground. #80 comes over like he's the ref's kid like "Hey dad! Let me help you up! Okay, never mind. Oh hey! Dad you forgot your hat! Dad! Your hat! Dad?"
What irritates me is the "defenseless player". I mean, now as a defense you have to wait for the player to catch the ball, hold it both hands, allow them to make a football move and then two steps before you can initiate contact.
You spent 7 minutes on the last 2 ejections?!? Did you just decide to include 6+ minutes of the commentators talking about it as a way to stretch out the run time?
The second one is wild. Player in white was twisting his ankle. More than deserved the kick. Also at 8:40, how do you get ejected for targeting and you didnt even tackle the player. Thats embarrassing.
I have CTE so I fully understand being careful about head injuries. However at the same time, 70% of this video is just big hits where 15 years ago no flag was thrown. I’ll be nice as say some flags for defenceless receiver, but common bruh.
I think the CTE has affected your thinking a bit too much. Saying something wouldn't be a penalty 15 years ago is not even an argument. That makes no damn sense at all
@@fizzmoe9846 it’s my argument: it wasn’t a rule, it’s a stupid rule, so why have the rule. My guy it sounds like you’re the band geek who’s mad someone played enough sports to have cte. The dude with the tuba in the stands in high school and college, yeah him. The guy who keeps a grudge for no reason.
@@saltycanadian6190 Lol no. I played football for 9 years. Started on defensive line in high school. It was fun. I'm glad I did it, but I'm also very lucky not to have gotten injured in any serious way. Ad hominem attacks are not an argument either, btw. Especially when they're not true. Then you start to look like a fool with no composure. It's not at all a stupid rule. When American Football started, they wore tiny leather helmets. Do you think it's stupid to wear the ones we do now? Let's just wear no helmets. You sound far more bitter than I do which makes sense because CTE disproportionately affects the frontal lobe of the brain. The area responsible for emotional regulation and logical thinking. You can spit anger the rest of your life about 'back in my day!' or you can grow up, recognize that the way it was wasn't correct because we have new information, and change your mind. A real man can change his mind. Only weak men hold on so tightly
You gotta change that thumbnail bro... thats the NFL. Also i really feel like they need to re-examine the rule. That Cincinnati player get ejected was a bad call. You could argue the ECU receiver was "defensless." But if bro catches that, its a touchdown. And that Cincinnati player wouldve been ridiculed by his coaches for not making a play
The fight was in the NFL, but those aren't their NFL jerseys...I figure it's to show that the teams they're wearing have a rivalry similar to the one between the two NFL players (say that The Rock and Steve Austin once came out wearing Red Sox/Yankees gear (with their names on the back)).
Primary point of contact was the crown of the helmet to the chin of the facemask at almost the same time as the arm/hand contact. When the timing is that close, the officials tend to err on the side of caution for player safety. He still was likely to get a roughing penalty anyway for going to the head with the arm (had he driven the shoulder to the body, it would've been unlikely to draw any call).
8:40 someone teach me how foot ball works - how is this a penalty of "targeting" are you not allowed to tackle someone on the other team when they have the ball?
They need to make some adjustments to the rule. Like targeting with and without intent or something like that. With would be an ejection and without would be 15 yard penalty, no ejection. There are just some instances that are "just football" and it can't be avoided. Shouldn't eject a player for making a play.
I get the need to avoid traumatic brain injuries, but they really need to figure out wtf they’re doing when calling targeting. If you watch any football game there are multiple hits that could be considered targeting by that definition that aren’t called and then refs decide to call it during critical situations. Other factors must be included in determining targeting as well like the ball carrier lowering himself down first or defensive players pivoting or shifting momentum necessary to change direction causing an inadvertent crouch or squaring up to tackle.
They take it on a case-by-case basis. Take a look at the Tennessee vs. Carolina clip where Emmanwori (Carolina #21) blocks #88 on Tennessee...the Tennessee player does lower his head some (and he's not considered defenseless), but Emmanwori still would've made helmet contact on the hit (which is why Emmanwori drew the foul...had he not lowered his head, the play would've ended there and he'd still have been in the game). Say a running back lowers his head and doesn't try to avoid the contact with the opposing player's helmet/actively tries to provoke a targeting call...I could see some sort of unsportsmanlike call being levied at the running back (are there "enticement" penalties in football anyway?).
A big part of the problem: Kids are not taught how to tackle, all the way back to Pony League. Wrap up. give him a hug. If kids were taught that, things would improve.
The problem is with shorter or lower runners. They will knock the wind out of you or take out your family Jules with the hug technique. Sometimes you gotta get lower and unfortunately there is some helmet contact.
That's likely why there are multiple guidelines that dictate what constitutes a targeting penalty and how severe the penalty is. Ultimately, though, the original call is a judgment call (which is why prospective targeting calls get automatically reviewed)...and then the call can either be confirmed (leading to deciding which penalty to assess) or overturned (which still could end up as a basic penalty). Most of these calls are made before the player is considered "not defenseless," though...which people will continue to argue incessantly. This compilation actually has a targeting call made when the offensive player would be considered "not defenseless," actually...the Tennessee vs. Carolina clip where the Tennessee player comes through the middle of the pack and Emmanwori (#21) lowers his head to contact the facemask of the Tennessee player. I'm sure that whoever ends up reviewing the targeting calls (if I'm not mistaken, it's coming down from a more central location where top officials look at the play from multiple angles) takes all the actions of players into account (offensive player lowering their head, a player slipping, etc.) and yields their judgment from there...the refs are just the messengers in that instance.
Pretty wild how many announcers will say “Well it’s not helmet to helmet” while watching two dudes hit helmet to helmet in slow motion high definition.
Complete clickbait title. 95% run of the mill targeting penalties. Don't waste your time.
1min into it and I can't watch
5:53
@@rusty0303i was going to say the same. Should just change the title to Targeting Fouls or something
Better Title: "Mostly Targeting Ejections"
"Mostly Bad Targeting Ejections."
Spearing, more like.
U mean, people getting ejected for playing football, ive been hit so hard ive done a backflip in the air and guess what no penalty. Its football your supposed to get drilled, it builds character
@@N0thing2C_here It also can get you killed. Fuck off.
One of the veery few ways to get ejected
Anybody hear the Georgia player say “hit that *****” On the punt team? 😂😂😂 and they did
nah i heard it i started busting out laughing 😭😭
Fr😂😂
bro when i heard that i knew he was dead, they legit confirmed he didnt fair catch like half a second before they hit him like a city bus lmaoooo
😭😭😭
I came to the comments to see if anyone else heard that lol
Poor kid just trying to give the ref his hat lmao 1:52
Good kid
bro tried to give the ref his hat back😂
Lmaooo the ref wasn’t having it.
Class act 😂😂😂😂
That ref was heated 😂
Ref was like f that hat
Bro what is the announcer doing on that one?
"Pretty weak punch"
😭✋
Shit was so funny tho lmao
I mean, he was right. Hope that weak sauce punch was worth it kid, you're gone.
Why the fuck would you punch a man wearing a football helmet.
lmao when i heard that i had to back up the video bc i was like no way is that announcer roasting his punching lol
7:27 💀 you can hear his teammate tell him to hit him
came the comments to see if i was tripping😂😂
Up 45-0 too what a scumbag team
@@mango2538 Nahh stuff like that happens all the time bud
hit that ninja
@lossless4129
Haha I heard it too. I heard it too.
😮😅
3:15 Number 91 Toledo was just "What in the f*ck are you doing!?"
F is with that thumbnail???
Lmao, it’s the Finnegan and Andre Johnson fight with college uniforms photoshopped 😂
@@Jasmine-jl9kb It's so funny man. This channel does that a lot, one of their other thumbnails was the Kazee hit on Pittman but photoshopped.
He said “ S my C” 😂
lol I was thinking the exact same
"College Football"🤣🤣
Lets go bro finally uploaded something besides ACC teams 😂
Stop complaining
@@Kings0424 buddy obviously its not just me complaining. No one wants to see the conference that has only won the natty like 3 times in the past 25 years😂
1:40 That ref got knocked the F out
That LSU hit was … I think the definition of targeting
Yup
Both targeting and roughing the passer. It's a _double_ flagrant foul!
Spearing. Let's call it what it is.
6:18 honestly best play I’ve seen in a long time! One handed catch on a obvious pass interference while the QB is getting a late targeting hit
7:33 is hilarious 😂😂
"Hit dat Ninja!!!"
@17:30 #17 of Louisville did kick the guy. I don’t blame him at all! The guy he kicked was holding his leg and twisting his ankle, trying to injure him! Well deserved kick! Ref should have flagged them both!
The thumbnail is insane
the target call is for safety, most of these players will not go to the league and are literally students
It’s football regardless
My problem is the judgment calls needed to determine a personal foul vs a targeting call and the inevitable impact on the game. Given the role of judgment in making these calls, two officiating crews could have significant different views of what constitutes targeting, making it difficult for players to know the rules too. For example, a defensive player lowering their head before a hit could be seen as targeting while an offensive player doing the same is fine. Couple that with the player being ejected and you could have a call that massively affects the game that is solely based on the view of the officiating crew with rules that are very difficult to understand given the differences in enforcement. I am all for increasing the safety of the game, but I think they went a bit far with targeting.
@@theyluvvme2782 Doesn't mean safety shouldn't be a priority
Well they should be swimmers then. They have neutered the sport these days.
@@Grant-vk6zo Safety isn't a sign of weakness
5:53 "it's helmet to shoulder" looks pretty helmet to helmet to me chief but aite
gator bein gator
Some of those penalties and ejections were absolute jokes.
Guess you don't care about cte eh?
Id say I agree with the majority though.
The Penn State vs Purdue one was weak
@@nathandodge665it’s football not soccer
@@864griz Irrelevant
Post season ejections hit different
On some of these I just don't know. . . . Is the defender just supposed to let the guy catch the ball? ? It's the the defense job to knock the ball loose
Yes, but if you hit a "defenseless reciever" anywhere above the shoelaces the stripey-shirt team will call targeting. You have to let the offensive player make a "football move", which is very poorly defined. But, the refs also have trouble figuring out when a pass is actually caught versus incomplete. Ciach: "He tucked the ball under his arm, ran 27 yards, broke two tackles, then dropped the ball, and that's an incomplete pass to you?" Ref: "Yes. He didn't use his turn signal when changing lanes." Coach: "Wha???"
It's so fast on the punt return. Not always the fault of the tackler.
Can someone answer, is it still targeting if the runner leads with HIS helmet into a defender? Or is it always up to the defender to get lower than the runner is?
The Cortland Finnegan and Andre Johnson fight with a Texas Longhorn helmet on the thumbnail?
Holy shit, they did change the Titans to a Texas uniform 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hit dat n bruh 😂😂
Ong I heard that 2
I love that the thumbnail is from the nfl you just changed the colors a bit.
Cortland Innegan because Andre beat the F out of him!!!!
Thumbnail is hilarious, I didn’t realize those college teams were in the AFC South
why is there a UT helmet in the thumbnail. that fight happened in the NFL Ten vs Hou. i think we all know who won the fight.
Gotta hand it to White, #23 of the Sooners. All the rest of them acted like babies when they were ejected, but White was calm and collected. One of the staff/coaches said something to him, he nodded, then when it was confirmed, he nodded again, and started for the lockers, shaking hands and fist bumping team mates for luck. Very well done, Mr. White. Class act.
Only time I've ever seen or heard anything about targeting not having to be direct helmet to helmet. Literally the description they give of the foul every other time.
Glad you approved. You know, these guys spend most of their lives in the gym, practice and in classrooms while playing at this level. I, for one, can forgive them for being passionate about what they do and expressing frustration when they feel the opportunity was taken from them unfairly. Don't mix up stoic with classy.
Yeah UA-cam needs to do something about the blatant clickbait thumbnails. This wasn’t even in college football
it's ALL college football, are you a 🤖
@@DuckDodgers69You clearly have low IQ. “Clickbait thumbnails”. The thumbnail is of Andre Johnson and Finnegan, that fight did not happen in a college game. 💀🤡
@@DuckDodgers69Re-read the comment 🤖
2:46 laying the lumber? Lol ok wierd way of saying that 😂
I feel really bad for Austin P
I like how at some point every video became targeting 🤣🤣
Buddy, Andre Johnson was not in college for that thumbnail
😂😂😂 bruh menace made tht damn thumbnail
7:06 a random kid said "I heard that from here" that's how you know the hit was loud 😭
thumbnail is Andre Johnson punch in that corner in the NFL
1:52 num 80 trying to give the ref his hat back is good sportsmanship
me when i use pov in the wrong way
Editing suggestion: We don't really need 2 minutes of announcers opining about the situation while the refs discuss. Show the play, then the replay then cut to the ref's ejection ruling.
They need to fill time while the refs discuss what to do.
@@xxlarrytfvwxx9531Lmfaoo, you really didn’t understand this comment, huh?
Targeting needs to be included with offensive players more with how they lower the head. Hardly ever called
Absolutely. Remember a few running backs in high school that would try to spear people every play. Never a flag
The clickbait photo shop is unreal hahhaa
12 of Pitt had a right to ne mad that was not targeting
1:48 I love the ref's p*ssed off face as he's on the ground. #80 comes over like he's the ref's kid like "Hey dad! Let me help you up! Okay, never mind. Oh hey! Dad you forgot your hat! Dad! Your hat! Dad?"
Notice anything about all these players?
There black
Why does 99 in the beginning looks like Kevin Owen’s
The intro photo on this post is an NFL game Texan vs Titans. Courtland Finegan and Andre Johnson.
3:56 is what every receiver should do. Lower your head in to the defender. Get free 15 yards and a player kicked out.
Bros last name being “Gaye” for the helmet to helmet was like a double whammy 😂
I like how you didnt bother Photoshopping Andre Johnson's jersey in the thumbnail
these are like the lube and primer to the CTE Express, hospital pass league called, "NFL"
The first guy hit Rudy!
Dayum in the 90's I committed Targeting every play.
1:31--The QB clearly wanted to pick a fight after this play!
Pitt v Duke ejection was really a standard targeting , nothing too crazy about that as far as ejections go
wasnt even targeting
"pretty weak punch" lol
7:29 "HiT DAT NINJA!!!!"
6:54 that hit sound from afar haunts me
“Hit that 🥷 “
You know you mad when you try to punch someone with a football helmet on 😂
Your thumbnail isn't college, that's from the NFL
They know that there are cameras in use, right?
What irritates me is the "defenseless player". I mean, now as a defense you have to wait for the player to catch the ball, hold it both hands, allow them to make a football move and then two steps before you can initiate contact.
The Nebraska/Oklahoma "targeting" is the only time I've ever heard this called when it wasn't direct helmet to helmet contact.
I played Juco Ball with that MS State safety that got ejected for targeting dude looks exactly like Lamar jackson
Who else loves watching ejections?
No. 40 for USC Kicked an Alabama player ( Minkah Fitzpatrick) In the Nether Region in 2016
Remember when football was a contact sport? Yeah I member🫐
5:09 commentator insulted his punch💀💀
You spent 7 minutes on the last 2 ejections?!? Did you just decide to include 6+ minutes of the commentators talking about it as a way to stretch out the run time?
The second one is wild. Player in white was twisting his ankle. More than deserved the kick. Also at 8:40, how do you get ejected for targeting and you didnt even tackle the player. Thats embarrassing.
What’s disturbing is that the people ejected get support of their teammates after a targeting incident.
I have many complaints with the thumbnail
“Pretty weak punch”😂
5:50 how is that not a hit to the helmet 😂😂😂😂
I have CTE so I fully understand being careful about head injuries.
However at the same time, 70% of this video is just big hits where 15 years ago no flag was thrown.
I’ll be nice as say some flags for defenceless receiver, but common bruh.
I think the CTE has affected your thinking a bit too much. Saying something wouldn't be a penalty 15 years ago is not even an argument. That makes no damn sense at all
@@fizzmoe9846 it’s my argument: it wasn’t a rule, it’s a stupid rule, so why have the rule.
My guy it sounds like you’re the band geek who’s mad someone played enough sports to have cte. The dude with the tuba in the stands in high school and college, yeah him.
The guy who keeps a grudge for no reason.
@@saltycanadian6190 Lol no. I played football for 9 years. Started on defensive line in high school. It was fun. I'm glad I did it, but I'm also very lucky not to have gotten injured in any serious way. Ad hominem attacks are not an argument either, btw. Especially when they're not true. Then you start to look like a fool with no composure.
It's not at all a stupid rule. When American Football started, they wore tiny leather helmets. Do you think it's stupid to wear the ones we do now? Let's just wear no helmets. You sound far more bitter than I do which makes sense because CTE disproportionately affects the frontal lobe of the brain. The area responsible for emotional regulation and logical thinking.
You can spit anger the rest of your life about 'back in my day!' or you can grow up, recognize that the way it was wasn't correct because we have new information, and change your mind. A real man can change his mind. Only weak men hold on so tightly
You can’t officially diagnose yourself with CTE until after you have a brain study, nitwit
that first one is crazyyyyyy
i cant stop wotchhing
You gotta change that thumbnail bro... thats the NFL. Also i really feel like they need to re-examine the rule. That Cincinnati player get ejected was a bad call. You could argue the ECU receiver was "defensless." But if bro catches that, its a touchdown. And that Cincinnati player wouldve been ridiculed by his coaches for not making a play
The fight was in the NFL, but those aren't their NFL jerseys...I figure it's to show that the teams they're wearing have a rivalry similar to the one between the two NFL players (say that The Rock and Steve Austin once came out wearing Red Sox/Yankees gear (with their names on the back)).
Can't target the head
Leading with crown has been a penalty for decades. Leading with the into another’s helmet is targeting. How about stripping the ball with your hands.
6:03. Gator don't play.
well, or he *didn't* get to play anymore that day.
#12 the black kid. He was hopping mad with madness. He can ONLY blame himself though. 😮
9:45 it looks like he was trying to move out the way to me.
The NFL thumbnail on a college video 🤡
In the game between Ole Miss and Texas Tech that was not targeting in my opinion
Primary point of contact was the crown of the helmet to the chin of the facemask at almost the same time as the arm/hand contact. When the timing is that close, the officials tend to err on the side of caution for player safety. He still was likely to get a roughing penalty anyway for going to the head with the arm (had he driven the shoulder to the body, it would've been unlikely to draw any call).
Andre Johnson just always been gettin into fights, huh? 😭
8:40 someone teach me how foot ball works - how is this a penalty of "targeting" are you not allowed to tackle someone on the other team when they have the ball?
They need to make some adjustments to the rule. Like targeting with and without intent or something like that. With would be an ejection and without would be 15 yard penalty, no ejection. There are just some instances that are "just football" and it can't be avoided. Shouldn't eject a player for making a play.
Just adjust it by getting rid of it.
This video is a lot like the New Zealand rugby team
Maryland shows up way too often in the vid.
I get the need to avoid traumatic brain injuries, but they really need to figure out wtf they’re doing when calling targeting. If you watch any football game there are multiple hits that could be considered targeting by that definition that aren’t called and then refs decide to call it during critical situations. Other factors must be included in determining targeting as well like the ball carrier lowering himself down first or defensive players pivoting or shifting momentum necessary to change direction causing an inadvertent crouch or squaring up to tackle.
When the running back lowers his head is that targeting
They take it on a case-by-case basis. Take a look at the Tennessee vs. Carolina clip where Emmanwori (Carolina #21) blocks #88 on Tennessee...the Tennessee player does lower his head some (and he's not considered defenseless), but Emmanwori still would've made helmet contact on the hit (which is why Emmanwori drew the foul...had he not lowered his head, the play would've ended there and he'd still have been in the game). Say a running back lowers his head and doesn't try to avoid the contact with the opposing player's helmet/actively tries to provoke a targeting call...I could see some sort of unsportsmanlike call being levied at the running back (are there "enticement" penalties in football anyway?).
Mike glass lowkey had a reason to hit him. Dude tried to take off his head.
5:48 This is actually fucking insane 😂
If you ever grabbed another guy's facemask you aint shit.
A big part of the problem: Kids are not taught how to tackle, all the way back to Pony League. Wrap up. give him a hug. If kids were taught that, things would improve.
Don't forget chin up.
The problem is with shorter or lower runners. They will knock the wind out of you or take out your family Jules with the hug technique. Sometimes you gotta get lower and unfortunately there is some helmet contact.
There weren't a lot, but the refs need to take into account when the offensive player drops their head as well.
That's likely why there are multiple guidelines that dictate what constitutes a targeting penalty and how severe the penalty is. Ultimately, though, the original call is a judgment call (which is why prospective targeting calls get automatically reviewed)...and then the call can either be confirmed (leading to deciding which penalty to assess) or overturned (which still could end up as a basic penalty). Most of these calls are made before the player is considered "not defenseless," though...which people will continue to argue incessantly. This compilation actually has a targeting call made when the offensive player would be considered "not defenseless," actually...the Tennessee vs. Carolina clip where the Tennessee player comes through the middle of the pack and Emmanwori (#21) lowers his head to contact the facemask of the Tennessee player.
I'm sure that whoever ends up reviewing the targeting calls (if I'm not mistaken, it's coming down from a more central location where top officials look at the play from multiple angles) takes all the actions of players into account (offensive player lowering their head, a player slipping, etc.) and yields their judgment from there...the refs are just the messengers in that instance.
I don’t blame 12 for being mad that was a terrible call
Filled with the people of the culture with no self control
9:03 i feel bad for, if 21 is ejected so should the offensive player
6:20 Flag is down it’s fucking Wilson!