We should consider building upgraded corvettes. With attachable modules for mission roles. Like missle system or air defences system etc. Crewed by 100 say. Fast agile ships that work as a ‘pack’ or solo. Perfect for roles such as this.oh & maybe a dozen with different mission role systems for carrier escort duty
EnglishAndy Waste of money, time and manpower the vessels we have are perfect we are not going to fire upon them as they are also a NATO nation and we need something fast and agile that can be launched on a moments notice the time it took to launch a corvette the Spanish would be gone corvettes are way way way to big
As usual softly, softly approach start being harder on these violations of international law and send a message to the rest don’t f### with the RN!!!!!!
@@uioplkhj No so Thomo. We sent British people to the Falklands. The Spanish sent people to the mainland which become Argentina. The difference is that no indigenous people were slaughtered in the Falklands because there weren't any. The rest of the South American continent was a whole different story.
@@mcarthur1857 Yes, indeed. But the Brits do that because they want to live there, and don't want to be Spanish or take over the country. It's called free will. The people of the Falklands and Gibraltar want to be British and their lands to be British. Not Spanish or Argentinian. And not to be occupied by countries they don't want. See the difference?
The Treaty of Utrecht doesn't mention territorial waters. The only thing that gives UK sovereignty over Gibraltar is the Treaty of Utrecht, meaning that if it gives preference to the UN Law of the Sea rather than the treaty, then it isn't respecting said treaty and therefore occupying Gibraltar illegally. Piracy is so linked to UK's DNA that it only wants to apply the points from both the Treaty of Utrecht and the Law of the Sea that benefit its nation and ignore the points that would benefit Spain, even if it unfairly harms it.
You are full of hot air from the "Costa del Sol". The Spanish government knows that their territorial claim is dead and buried, hence why they do not take this debate to the international Court of Justice...
@@johndell5335 We haven't stolen anything. Gibraltar was ceded by Spain to the UK. In instances where there has been an agreement to return territory after a certain period of time, the UK has complied with this (e.g. Hong Kong).
@@pablobs27 Well, technically not at the time of when the treaty was signed. However, international law stipulates that territorial water extends up to 12 miles from the coast for all nations and their territories - so Gibraltar receives these territorial waters by default.
The problem here is that the UK acts like Gibraltar has a territorial water demarcation which in this case due to the treaty of Spain and England in 1714 is clear that doesn't have. Simple as that. Work together and more in those days with brexit going on.
Not all British claims are due to the treaty of 1714. The lands at the airport and the seas around are UK territory because they were claimed by the UK after the treaty due to Spanish violations and military action, which is fine under International law. UK waters, UK territory, end of.
Quoting the UN Convention: Territorial waters Out to 12 nautical miles (22 kilometres; 14 miles) from the baseline, the coastal state is free to set laws, regulate use, and use any resource. Vessels were given the right of innocent passage through any territorial waters, with strategic straits allowing the passage of military craft as transit passage, in that naval vessels are allowed to maintain postures that would be illegal in territorial waters. "Innocent passage" is defined by the convention as passing through waters in an expeditious and continuous manner, which is not "prejudicial to the peace, good order or the security" of the coastal state. Fishing, polluting, weapons practice, and spying are not "innocent", and submarines and other underwater vehicles are required to navigate on the surface and to show their flag. Nations can also temporarily suspend innocent passage in specific areas of their territorial seas, if doing so is essential for the protection of their security. So, the waters surrounding Gibraltar for up to 12 nautical miles are Gibraltar's Territorial Waters.
@@leod-sigefast First Ceuta y Melilla was Spanish before the kingdom of Marroco, ignorant Second, tell me where in the Utrech Treaty, Spain ceded the sovereignty of Gibraltar.... clever guy.
@@HispaniaGothorum well if spain wanna make it violent and try take it back then they're more than welcome to. Just be some more training for our already great military.
@Holistic Vocal Coach Im fine with gurkus as thdy arnt illegal, problem going back to women and children, the majority of those refugee inflatable boats contain solely men
Probably not in Gibraltar it’s a bit won’t of the way if coming from Africa mainland Spain is a much more via le option as well as that the Spanish territory still In North Africa would be much easier to get to.
belonging to a neutral country I am not the one that is going to justify/comment on british or spanish "rights" over Gibraltar, but I guess Spain marches on thin ice, considering its presence across the strait in Ceuta and Melilla... this dispute is also astonishing since both countries are/were part of the European Union and NATO, so one supposes a better base of understanding would be at hand... (and if we would like to stretch the issue further: how can Morocco protest about Ceuta, Melilla and the Peñon, considering its own annexation of the Western Sahara? الصحراء الغربية الحرة )
Good to get the background. I would like to know more about their everyday lives. Are they there for long postings? Looks like the cushiest job in the Navy at first glance....
Drink beer. Drive around in a fast boat. Go over to Spain for a bender. Come back. Say the right thing in a Forces TV video. Drink more beer. Your first glance is probably right.
@@Peter-ox7wh According to the UN Law of the Sea convention of 1982 we have the right to at most 12 nautical miles of water, of which we claimed 3, this is even mentioned in the video, did you not watch it?
@@spicycrusader No. The Treaty of Utrecht doesn't mention territorial waters. The only thing that gives UK sovereignty over Gibraltar is the Treaty of Utrecht, meaning that if you give preference to the UN Law of the Sea rather than the treaty, then you aren't respecting it and therefore occupying Gibraltar illegally. Piracy is so linked to UK's DNA that it only wants to apply the points from both the Treaty of Utrecht and the Law of the Sea that benefit its nation and ignore the points that would benefit Spain, even if it unfairly harms it.
Those are spanish waters by the treatise of Utrech. English pirates, never respect any treaty and they take more land or water than they have right to have. Se what happen to Guatemala, Venezuela and so on....
Do you expect them to pay? I do have a parking ticket from Menorca that I got last year. The car rental company have finally filtered it through to me at my undisclosed US location. Don't worry I'm not going to pay, just to show them. I'm not making this up.
@@thomasmeyer1408 The UK is a sovereign country to which Gibraltar belongs , and the waters of Gibraltar are British Gibraltar waters according to UN conventions. You can scream like a little child "Gibraltar is Spanish" as much as you want, it does not change anything. Should Spain ever try to attack UK territory, Spain would be completely defeated.
Yes ! Do you understand what it's for? :) Originally it was a strategic location and a coaling station for naval forces. If you set yourself up with a map of all these small British holdings you will see how many of them are effectively gas stations. Now? It's an offshore location for funny money.
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Need to make sure there is a bigger Royal Navy presence there.
Spain should receive them with missiles in case they violate the treaty.
@@johndell5335 Bruh what's the point when both countries are NATO allies 🤣
@@GEA_RuthlessKillaz35 The point is to have some respect for others people rights and property.
@@johndell5335 Con los delincuentes no hay que tener respeto
@@javierdejuan5418 De acuerdo, me refiero respeto a España
We should consider building upgraded corvettes. With attachable modules for mission roles. Like missle system or air defences system etc. Crewed by 100 say. Fast agile ships that work as a ‘pack’ or solo. Perfect for roles such as this.oh & maybe a dozen with different mission role systems for carrier escort duty
EnglishAndy Waste of money, time and manpower the vessels we have are perfect we are not going to fire upon them as they are also a NATO nation and we need something fast and agile that can be launched on a moments notice the time it took to launch a corvette the Spanish would be gone corvettes are way way way to big
Lewis UK so the situation with Iran?
You’ve essentially described the type 31 frigate
To be fair, I agree with Lewis.
The western med is Nato basically. Spain wouldnt fire upon us and we wouldnt fire upon them. They're our "Ally".
Bathwater Salesman well we need something extra. After all we need our own escort ships for our carriers
BoJo give our armed forces the kit they need ASAP
@Reaper One i mean you never know
nah, replacing brits 'legally' is higher on his list bruv
As usual softly, softly approach start being harder on these violations of international law and send a message to the rest don’t f### with the RN!!!!!!
El acuerdo sobre Gibraltar no contemplaba aguas territoriales, sólo la entrada al puerto.
A que acuerdo te refieres?
Spain, Argentine......
Both don't seem to understand what people want, be British.
But in both cases, we sent people from our isles to live in lands which weren't British before.
@@uioplkhj No so Thomo. We sent British people to the Falklands. The Spanish sent people to the mainland which become Argentina. The difference is that no indigenous people were slaughtered in the Falklands because there weren't any. The rest of the South American continent was a whole different story.
@@uioplkhj er try most of the world about invading other lands. God it amazes me how thick people are about history.
hahaha yeah this is why a lot of brits buy houses in Malaga and Cadiz
@@mcarthur1857
Yes, indeed.
But the Brits do that because they want to live there, and don't want to be Spanish or take over the country.
It's called free will.
The people of the Falklands and Gibraltar want to be British and their lands to be British.
Not Spanish or Argentinian.
And not to be occupied by countries they don't want.
See the difference?
This is so sad to watch. If you grew up reading stories about the Royal Navy and the British Empire do not watch this video.
The Treaty of Utrecht doesn't mention territorial waters. The only thing that gives UK sovereignty over Gibraltar is the Treaty of Utrecht, meaning that if it gives preference to the UN Law of the Sea rather than the treaty, then it isn't respecting said treaty and therefore occupying Gibraltar illegally. Piracy is so linked to UK's DNA that it only wants to apply the points from both the Treaty of Utrecht and the Law of the Sea that benefit its nation and ignore the points that would benefit Spain, even if it unfairly harms it.
You are full of hot air from the "Costa del Sol". The Spanish government knows that their territorial claim is dead and buried, hence why they do not take this debate to the international Court of Justice...
England will never ever give up any of it's territories, well done to all the sailors of HMS.🇬🇧👊💥
As Hong Kong?
Lol
@@Peter-ox7wh A 99-years Treaty Hong Kong was. Gibraltar on the other hand is British in perpetuity according to the Utrecht Treaty.
English pirates never return what they stole. That is the purpose of piratery.
@@johndell5335 We haven't stolen anything. Gibraltar was ceded by Spain to the UK. In instances where there has been an agreement to return territory after a certain period of time, the UK has complied with this (e.g. Hong Kong).
@@pablobs27 Well, technically not at the time of when the treaty was signed. However, international law stipulates that territorial water extends up to 12 miles from the coast for all nations and their territories - so Gibraltar receives these territorial waters by default.
got to make absolutely certain those Barbary apes stay posted there and do not plan to post out or discharge Anytime Soon!
The problem here is that the UK acts like Gibraltar has a territorial water demarcation which in this case due to the treaty of Spain and England in 1714 is clear that doesn't have.
Simple as that.
Work together and more in those days with brexit going on.
Not all British claims are due to the treaty of 1714. The lands at the airport and the seas around are UK territory because they were claimed by the UK after the treaty due to Spanish violations and military action, which is fine under International law. UK waters, UK territory, end of.
The un said that the waters around it are British
@@yaraelpoof7242 Gibraltar territorial a descolonizar eso dijo la ONU
@@NoFaithNoPain Tus leyes son tu propia mierda.🖕🖕
@@yaraelpoof7242 pronto lo veremos...😂😂😂😂😂
Could you please tell me in which part of the Treaty was written that the Uk has territorial waters? Thanks
Quoting the UN Convention:
Territorial waters
Out to 12 nautical miles (22 kilometres; 14 miles) from the baseline, the coastal state is free to set laws, regulate use, and use any resource. Vessels were given the right of innocent passage through any territorial waters, with strategic straits allowing the passage of military craft as transit passage, in that naval vessels are allowed to maintain postures that would be illegal in territorial waters. "Innocent passage" is defined by the convention as passing through waters in an expeditious and continuous manner, which is not "prejudicial to the peace, good order or the security" of the coastal state. Fishing, polluting, weapons practice, and spying are not "innocent", and submarines and other underwater vehicles are required to navigate on the surface and to show their flag. Nations can also temporarily suspend innocent passage in specific areas of their territorial seas, if doing so is essential for the protection of their security.
So, the waters surrounding Gibraltar for up to 12 nautical miles are Gibraltar's Territorial Waters.
No treaty was ever written about water in the 18th century. It was implied. Does Morocco have the right to sail through Ceuta and Melilla water?
@@leod-sigefast First Ceuta y Melilla was Spanish before the kingdom of Marroco, ignorant Second, tell me where in the Utrech Treaty, Spain ceded the sovereignty of Gibraltar.... clever guy.
@@IslandWork1 You don't have the sovereignty of Gibraltar. Can you read English? Read the treaty!
@@HispaniaGothorum well if spain wanna make it violent and try take it back then they're more than welcome to. Just be some more training for our already great military.
Gibraltar, Home to a couple of Janky Patrol Boats.
Janky?!
Which do the job very efficiently
I mean., nowerdays we got our own ship here now, HMS Trent.
are the RNG getting new OPV's to help them which is going to replace the older patrol ships
Stopping mass Migrants I hope
@Holistic Vocal Coach thats the scam they want you to believe... its engineered, dont be naive..... Islam is coming bro
@Holistic Vocal Coach have you seen the recent footage from the greek boarder? these people are crazy
@Holistic Vocal Coach Im fine with gurkus as thdy arnt illegal, problem going back to women and children, the majority of those refugee inflatable boats contain solely men
Probably not in Gibraltar it’s a bit won’t of the way if coming from Africa mainland Spain is a much more via le option as well as that the Spanish territory still In North Africa would be much easier to get to.
@Chief Gemini gurkas are given a British citizenship after service......
belonging to a neutral country I am not the one that is going to justify/comment on british or spanish "rights" over Gibraltar, but I guess Spain marches on thin ice, considering its presence across the strait in Ceuta and Melilla... this dispute is also astonishing since both countries are/were part of the European Union and NATO, so one supposes a better base of understanding would be at hand... (and if we would like to stretch the issue further: how can Morocco protest about Ceuta, Melilla and the Peñon, considering its own annexation of the Western Sahara? الصحراء الغربية الحرة )
Those ribs look so fun.
Love your pfp 😂
Good to get the background. I would like to know more about their everyday lives. Are they there for long postings? Looks like the cushiest job in the Navy at first glance....
Drink beer. Drive around in a fast boat. Go over to Spain for a bender. Come back. Say the right thing in a Forces TV video. Drink more beer. Your first glance is probably right.
Spanish and Russian incursions cost us millions, which one is in NATO and the EU?!
What spanish incursions?
I mean Gibraltar doesn't have water limits,so Spain cant incurs in something which belongs.
@@Peter-ox7wh So the Royal Navy can make incursions into Ceuta and Melilla by that logic! Great.
@@leod-sigefast The Royal Navy does incursions in Spanish waters of Gibraltar
@@Peter-ox7wh According to the UN Law of the Sea convention of 1982 we have the right to at most 12 nautical miles of water, of which we claimed 3, this is even mentioned in the video, did you not watch it?
@@spicycrusader No. The Treaty of Utrecht doesn't mention territorial waters. The only thing that gives UK sovereignty over Gibraltar is the Treaty of Utrecht, meaning that if you give preference to the UN Law of the Sea rather than the treaty, then you aren't respecting it and therefore occupying Gibraltar illegally. Piracy is so linked to UK's DNA that it only wants to apply the points from both the Treaty of Utrecht and the Law of the Sea that benefit its nation and ignore the points that would benefit Spain, even if it unfairly harms it.
The British are very generous in temper but don't push them too far...
Rule Britannia
Pues mira la Historia de España, aquí luchan hasta las hormigas. No lo olvides, patético.
Fuel up its ships and boats for the "Migrant Taxi Service" probably,as RN and"Boarder Farce" are not really up to ,or FOR,Fishery Protection Work!
Joke. Mickey mouse. Get the Marines with proper warships. They aren't going to stop the Russians passing. Etc etc. The Spanish take the P out of us.
Doesn't water come under the Law of Nature ?
No.
They do nothing.
Gibraltar español!!!🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
🇬🇮=🇬🇧
@@yaraelpoof7242 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
Gibraltar español!! 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
GIBRALTAR IS SPAIN!!!!!
🇬🇧
Obviamente no es.
Ceuta is Morocco u fool
@@chrisoghenetegamaloney5799 Ceuta was spanish even before kingdom of morocco existed
No🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Gibraltareños no tiene aguas internacionales.
Apoyo a los contrabandistas por las las lanchas de gibraltar. Pirates of the world.
Those are spanish waters by the treatise of Utrech. English pirates, never respect any treaty and they take more land or water than they have right to have. Se what happen to Guatemala, Venezuela and so on....
There British waters by the un
@@yaraelpoof7242 See. there is the version of an english pirate. They never respect any right or treatise.
They only understand lead and blood.
@@johndell5335 The un says otherwise it belongs to Britain far and square
@@yaraelpoof7242 Lead and blood, the only language english pirates understand. And sooner or later, that is what they are going to get.
@@johndell5335 Yes your right Britain can easily invade Spain see you there
El tonto, hacen el tonto.
Gibraltar should be returned back to Spain
Like Ceuta the likes be returned to Morocco ...
🤣
No way that’s are Gibraltar
Let me think about that...
No
Lo que hacen es facilitar el narcotrafico y dar paseos por el mar
These people are pirates acting like legal enforcement. There is not such Gibraltar waters , these are Spanish waters according to Utrech treaty .
Nope there is such thing
Pirates
Great nickname, thanks!
@@leod-sigefast Didn't we nickname the Gib Regiment "The Barbarians"?
British pirates
Pirates of HM.
“Behave”
You mean invade
Why are Spain and Argentina such hypocrites
Should send the £££bill to the Spanish!
Do you expect them to pay? I do have a parking ticket from Menorca that I got last year. The car rental company have finally filtered it through to me at my undisclosed US location. Don't worry I'm not going to pay, just to show them. I'm not making this up.
también podréis marcharos y no molestar más.
Did Georgina get picked up off the street?
Piratas
When are you giving it back to Spain
@@thomasmeyer1408 Gibraltar is British territory. Not Spanish. Lying will get you nowhere.
@@thomasmeyer1408 The UK is a sovereign country to which Gibraltar belongs , and the waters of Gibraltar are British Gibraltar waters according to UN conventions. You can scream like a little child "Gibraltar is Spanish" as much as you want, it does not change anything.
Should Spain ever try to attack UK territory, Spain would be completely defeated.
@@thomasmeyer1408 we left the eu and still got Gibraltar. come and invade and watch your rotten country collapse again
Once you give back Prussia 😂
After Spain has gone bankrupt ( which will probably be next week)
Any pirates there
Only Spanish
Llanitos no tenéis aguas . Gibraltar español .salir vox
define bad behaviour? sailors swearing on the boats?
Bad behaviour as in the ships insisting on staying in the waters despite being told to vacate.
Mosquitos el la cola de un animal ja ja
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Do we still need Gibralter as we are not a global power anymore?
Yes ! Do you understand what it's for? :) Originally it was a strategic location and a coaling station for naval forces. If you set yourself up with a map of all these small British holdings you will see how many of them are effectively gas stations. Now? It's an offshore location for funny money.
If we need it or not is irrelevant. Its if the people of Gibralter want to remain British.
@@harryb8945 they should only vote after a few years after brexit so they know what they fully want
@@RichARock well there's no talk of a vote atm.
Paul Allen ‘not a global power anymore’. Yes, yes we are, we are ranked the 4th strongest military in the world and have the 5th largest economy.
we are being invaded sink the ships
Gibraltar Español.
You are doing like putin treating Spanish in their own territory.
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