I wish there were a station that played nothing but this type of stuff. I find it so fascinating to hear how songs and albums are put together and the stories behind them. I could listen to this all day. Thanks for posting this.
So many people have forgotten bout , or never even heard of the " other " genius behind E.L.O , other than Jeff Lynne that is .It's fair to say that E.L.O. without Roy Wood, wouldn't have achieved the same heights of fame , as it did with his influence - hat tip to Roy !!
Roy wood was the genius behind elo he actually brought Jeff lynne into the move to be part of elo jeff lynnes band idle race couldn't buy a hit record at the time
I am overwhelmed by this song I love it so much. It’s a masterpiece song by 2 musical geniuses Jeff and Roy. I have loved ELO since the 70s. You can see the Beatles influence on this band.
Jeff wrote this song. Roy contributed the tracks "Look at Me Now", "The Battle of Marston Moore", "1st Movement" and "Whisper in the Night" for ELO's debut.
Roger Wake and myself, Keith Whiting, were the engineers on the last Move album, this ELO album and the first Wizzard album. All recorded at Philips Studio in Marble Arch. There was a 10,000 pound studio bill that their manager, Don Arden, never paid!
I was 11 when this song came out and it was mind blowing. It was nice to have them because The Beatles had broken up and ELO had enough of a Beatles vibe to make me feel a bit better about that.
7:40 Roy Wood didn't play the french horn, that's one of the few instruments Wood didn't play. Bill Hunt did and he also played the piccolo trumpet part towards the end. Hunt wasn't officialy a member of ELO yet (he became the fourth member of the band shortly afterwards) but he was hired as a session musician to play the brass parts for the album.
Thanks for this overview of my favorite ELO song, though I love the Long Beach 1974 version the best. But the ultimate classic is up with it for me!! And Mark, don't forget Bev's great drumming!
these guys were truly "recording artists" as opposed to just great musicians (which they are, too). Before pro tools and infinite track availability, the recording studio was an instrument unto itself. Jeff Lynne understood this and mastered it. Its a big reason why this recording will always hold up to the test of time.
Wow -- one of my top 5 favourite ELO tracks! Interesting & cool break down......but I thought Bill Hunt played the french horn. (?) Thanks for uploading!
Great understated lyrics, wonderfully dystopian sci-fi. Did you see your friend Crying from his eyes today? Did you see him run Through the streets and far away, aah? Did you see him run? Did you see him fall? (Aah, aah, aah) Did his life flash by At the bedroom door? (Aah, aah) [Bridge] (Aah-aah-aah-aah) (Aah-aah-aah-aah) [Verse 2] Did you hear the news? It came across the air today Someone has been found On the rocks down in the bay, aah Did you see him hide? Did you see him crawl? (Aah, aah, aah) Does his life mean more Than it did before? (Aah, aah) [Bridge] (Aah-aah-aah-aah) (Aah-aah-aah-aah) [Verse 3] Did you see that man Running through the streets today? Did you catch his face? Was it 10538, aah?
This documentary certainly calls into question about how much of Jeff Lynn's style really came from Roy Wood, his mentor. Wood was a much more established star at the time. Lynn was pretty new
Roy liked off the path type music...after this first record jeff & roy new they would have take different paths or spend their time fighting ..at least thats what i think
@@funftyfunfcorrect that's why connection to elo's founding eventually had to go richard tandy ,bev bevan ,Roy wood ,so it could become jeff lynnes elo
Rick Nielsen of Cheap Trick rates this as one of his favorite songs ever. Says it's pure pop. Doesnt hurt that they covered California Man, Brontosaurus, Rock&Roll Tonite, and stole the riff of Do Ya. And on their latest album did Blackberry Way.
🎉It does make you wonder that if they had stayed musical partners, what genius music would they have produced? I know they had tremendous personal careers, but what if?
I think you've got rather confused there, it was Bill Hunt who played French Horn on the album and the late Steve Woolam played violin. Bill left ELO with Roy Wood, Hugh McDowell and sound engineer Trevor Smith to form Wizzard. Sadly Steve Woolam commited suicide soon after the album was recorded, he leaped to his death from a high building. R.I.P Steve Woolam, Mike Edwards, Wilf Gibson, Kelly Groucutt and Hugh McDowell.
Wood, Lynne, Price and Bevan recorded the backing track for this song as The Move in July 1970, it was simply to be called 10538 and was the planned 'B' side of The Move's Roy Wood penned single "When Alice Comes Back To The Farm", another Jeff Lynne song "What" replaced 10538 as the 'B' side. After Roy Wood added some cello parts to the mix the song was re-named "10538 Overture". When the final mix of 10538 Overture was recorded, Rick Price's bass line was wiped and replaced by a Roy Wood bass recording, Bill Hunt recorded the French Horn part and Steve Woolam recorded the violin part. Although they were credited on the ELO album, Hunt and Woolam were never actually members of ELO at the time of the recording. The debut ELO album was released in the UK in November 1971. Some of the ELO album was recorded during the "Looking On" sessions and others were recorded during the "Message from the Country" sessions. The last single by The Move "California Man" was in the UK top 10 in May 1972, a full 6 months after the ELO album was released. Steve Woolam sadly jumped to his death from a high building in 1971. In early 1972 the late Wilf Gibson became ELO's official violinist.
ELO would have been even more of a monster (if that is possible) with Roy Wood, but they couldn't get along. Roy dominated the singles charts in the UK during the early '70's. We all know what happened to ELO later.
Jeff Lynne wrote the 10538 overture in a desperate attempt to notch up the newly formed ELO into a more appealing bracket in the ever-growing music industry.
That's THE ELO spirit, containing all the magic. Horn, rough cellos, the electric guitar and the typical sloppy drumkit. For me the absolute essential what ELO basically means.
Thank goodness for Jeff Lynne becoming the elo genius we love. This is not Roy woods genius...it's Jeff . But then ,didn't they play tricks on us anyway. ?
There wouldn't have been an ELO without Roy Wood, it was his brainchild in 1968 when he was in The Move and Jeff Lynne was in The Idle Race. The Move had a string of hit singles written by Roy Wood, Jeff Lynne at that time hadn't written a single hit, in fact "10538 Overture" was Lynne's first hit single. Although Lynne's writing was excellent in his time with The Idle Race, it went clean over the record buying public's heads. The truth is by the end of 1969 Lynne was getting frustrated with the Idle Race's lack of success. When Carl Wayne left The Move for a solo career at the same time, Roy Wood asked Jeff Lynne for a second time to join him in The Move. Lynne agreed on condition that they could both go ahead with the ELO project that Wood was planning. After Lynne joined The Move it lasted for another 2 years and 3 months, The Move was the band that laid the golden singles, all written by Roy Wood, the revenue that The Move generated funded the ELO sessions and eventually the debut ELO album. The ELO album was released in November 1971, the last Move single "California Man" hit the UK singles chart in May 1972, "10538 Overture" went into the chart in June 1972 as "California Man" slipped out. Lynne's "Do Ya" was the last track recorded by The Move, but it was Roy Wood's excellent song writing that made The Move a top UK band for six years.
@@davidmacgregor5193idle race couldn't even get a hit with here we go round the lemon a song that roy wrote and gave to idle race where it flopped the later version by the move charted
I wish there were a station that played nothing but this type of stuff. I find it so fascinating to hear how songs and albums are put together and the stories behind them. I could listen to this all day. Thanks for posting this.
Roy Wood & Jeff Lynn are two of the greatest writers/ producers of all time. Both as individuals and working as a duo in ELO. Amazing.👍
brummies
Roy and Jeff both musical geniuses
That's one hell of a song, I'm still playing it 40 years later.
50 years later, surely?
Me too..
Me too. Still sounds sublime.
So many people have forgotten bout , or never even heard of the " other " genius behind E.L.O , other than Jeff Lynne that is .It's fair to say that E.L.O. without Roy Wood, wouldn't have achieved the same heights of fame , as it did with his influence - hat tip to Roy !!
Roy built the foundation. The Move...
Roy wood was the genius behind elo he actually brought Jeff lynne into the move to be part of elo jeff lynnes band idle race couldn't buy a hit record at the time
Totally awesome... it's their "Walrus" 👍😎👌
YES! Spot on.
...and on the opposite end "December " by Collective Soul must have "borrowed " from this...
Guess every generation of bands is influenced by others
I am overwhelmed by this song I love it so much. It’s a masterpiece song by 2 musical geniuses Jeff and Roy. I have loved ELO since the 70s. You can see the Beatles influence on this band.
Definitely true
This is just brilliant, absolutely loved listening to this. Really learnt a lot from this. More please!
Still a classic with it's bautiful haunting guitar riff xxxx
Brilliant :) The awesomeness of Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood and the seeds of ELO :)
A masterpiece , Roy Wood is a genius .
Jeff wrote this song. Roy contributed the tracks "Look at Me Now", "The Battle of Marston Moore", "1st Movement" and "Whisper in the Night" for ELO's debut.
@@naturesfinest4871roy wood did the arrangement brought in the French horn played all the cello tracks but your right jeff lynne wrote it
Sooooooooooo many great ELO songs...and this is one of 'em. Love it!
Who would give this a thumbs down ? Somebody thats not an elo fan, my guess.
Roger Wake and myself, Keith Whiting, were the engineers on the last Move album, this ELO album and the first Wizzard album. All recorded at Philips Studio in Marble Arch. There was a 10,000 pound studio bill that their manager, Don Arden, never paid!
Classic Don Arden. Doesn't surprise me at all.
Don Arden (a.k.a. Harry Levy) was Jewish, they're not known for parting with money easily.
Don Arden ripped a few bands off back then ( Sharon Osbourne's dad)
Thank you for doing your bit to put this band on the way to the success they eventually achieved.
@@davidmacgregor5193 that’s a bit racist David
I was 11 when this song came out and it was mind blowing. It was nice to have them because The Beatles had broken up and ELO had enough of a Beatles vibe to make me feel a bit better about that.
Wow, very interesting break down of the track. Love this track and brings back memories of growing up in the 1970's.
Brilliant explanation thanks for sharing.
Fascinating to learn of the brilliant and creative effort in crafting this little masterpiece.
Thanks for sharing this! Just AMAZING!!!! WOW!
7:40 Roy Wood didn't play the french horn, that's one of the few instruments Wood didn't play. Bill Hunt did and he also played the piccolo trumpet part towards the end. Hunt wasn't officialy a member of ELO yet (he became the fourth member of the band shortly afterwards) but he was hired as a session musician to play the brass parts for the album.
Roy and Jeff great partnership!!
Thanks for this overview of my favorite ELO song, though I love the Long Beach 1974 version the best. But the ultimate classic is up with it for me!! And Mark, don't forget Bev's great drumming!
Steve Thomas saw Bev Bevan with Jasper Carrot and (musical) Friends last year. They ended with Mr Blue Sky, ahhhhhhhh 😍
these guys were truly "recording artists" as opposed to just great musicians (which they are, too). Before pro tools and infinite track availability, the recording studio was an instrument unto itself. Jeff Lynne understood this and mastered it. Its a big reason why this recording will always hold up to the test of time.
Except it was Roy's concept in this case.
@@fix135 Spot On.
@@fix135 ELO was, indeed, Roy Wood’s idea, but Jeff took that bull by the horns and turned it into pure magic
Incredible song. ELO rules! Jeff Lynne is a musical genius.
xoxo The Clarences
THE CLARENCES well said!
Thanks SO much! xoxo The Clarences
Yes, and Jeff is the musical genius, not Roy wood.
Stupid comment! Roy Woods musical genius shone through in this track, as it did in everything he was involved with. The man is a musical God!
@@tonyhinkin6368 spot on.
Wow -- one of my top 5 favourite ELO tracks! Interesting & cool break down......but I thought Bill Hunt played the french horn. (?) Thanks for uploading!
hunt did play the horn
Brilliant!! Thank you for sharing!
Great understated lyrics, wonderfully dystopian sci-fi.
Did you see your friend
Crying from his eyes today?
Did you see him run
Through the streets and far away, aah?
Did you see him run?
Did you see him fall? (Aah, aah, aah)
Did his life flash by
At the bedroom door? (Aah, aah)
[Bridge]
(Aah-aah-aah-aah)
(Aah-aah-aah-aah)
[Verse 2]
Did you hear the news?
It came across the air today
Someone has been found
On the rocks down in the bay, aah
Did you see him hide?
Did you see him crawl? (Aah, aah, aah)
Does his life mean more
Than it did before? (Aah, aah)
[Bridge]
(Aah-aah-aah-aah)
(Aah-aah-aah-aah)
[Verse 3]
Did you see that man
Running through the streets today?
Did you catch his face?
Was it 10538, aah?
E.L.O....!!!...WOOOW,....TNXS for posting....back in the past.....
Awesome duo 👍👍
Fantastic!
This documentary certainly calls into question about how much of Jeff Lynn's style really came from Roy Wood, his mentor. Wood was a much more established star at the time. Lynn was pretty new
Lynne
Linn (drums).
Sheer genius, Jeff Lynne, and Roy wood. That rock cello riff Roy's playing is the beginning of it.
Genius riff was born in Dear Prudence
It would’ve been interesting to see what direction ELO would have taken if Wood had remained in the band as co-leader.
Roy liked off the path type music...after this first record jeff & roy new they would have take different paths or spend their time fighting ..at least thats what i think
@@mreloo No, they’ve remained good pals to this day.
Jeff, unlike Roy, does not like to share.
@@funftyfunfcorrect that's why connection to elo's founding eventually had to go richard tandy ,bev bevan ,Roy wood ,so it could become jeff lynnes elo
"The Move"--split ends---do ya!!! that got me
huge work
Rick Nielsen of Cheap Trick rates this as one of his favorite songs ever. Says it's pure pop. Doesnt hurt that they covered California Man, Brontosaurus, Rock&Roll Tonite, and stole the riff of Do Ya. And on their latest album did Blackberry Way.
Check out the intro to this:ua-cam.com/video/SyN7z1tyWy8/v-deo.html
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can you please play the whole song from 03 45 without commentary
ok
And later on Paul Weller stole the riff for Changingman...
🎉It does make you wonder that if they had stayed musical partners, what genius music would they have produced? I know they had tremendous personal careers, but what if?
Minor point...Bill Hunt played the French Horn..
correcto!
Bill Hunt played the French horn, not Roy.
but Roy didnt play french horn on the album, it was Bill Woolham
I think you've got rather confused there, it was Bill Hunt who played French Horn on the album and the late Steve Woolam played violin. Bill left ELO with Roy Wood, Hugh McDowell and sound engineer Trevor Smith to form Wizzard. Sadly Steve Woolam commited suicide soon after the album was recorded, he leaped to his death from a high building. R.I.P Steve Woolam, Mike Edwards, Wilf Gibson, Kelly Groucutt and Hugh McDowell.
Early ELO and Wizard were amazing.
How perfectly fitting : mother Move giving birth to the beautiful baby that was ELO ! The rest is , as the say . History
If "feel to good" The Move is new to you, listen to Roy Woods start, what a man. Hair band, haha
Jeff Lynne played drums and percussion on "Feel Too Good" due to Bev Bevan missing the Birmingham to London train,.
@@davidmacgregor5193 Thanks for that!
I have this single but it was under the previous name of ELO. Then they were The Move.
Wood, Lynne, Price and Bevan recorded the backing track for this song as The Move in July 1970, it was simply to be called 10538 and was the planned 'B' side of The Move's Roy Wood penned single "When Alice Comes Back To The Farm", another Jeff Lynne song "What" replaced 10538 as the 'B' side. After Roy Wood added some cello parts to the mix the song was re-named "10538 Overture". When the final mix of 10538 Overture was recorded, Rick Price's bass line was wiped and replaced by a Roy Wood bass recording, Bill Hunt recorded the French Horn part and Steve Woolam recorded the violin part. Although they were credited on the ELO album, Hunt and Woolam were never actually members of ELO at the time of the recording. The debut ELO album was released in the UK in November 1971. Some of the ELO album was recorded during the "Looking On" sessions and others were recorded during the "Message from the Country" sessions. The last single by The Move "California Man" was in the UK top 10 in May 1972, a full 6 months after the ELO album was released. Steve Woolam sadly jumped to his death from a high building in 1971. In early 1972 the late Wilf Gibson became ELO's official violinist.
The single 45 I own says The Move. That is all I know. @@davidmacgregor5193
@@DrBrianZ Maybe you are thinking of "Do Ya," recorded by both The Move and ELO.
@@pamvanallen3919 Nope. The Move 10538 Overture. I was in radio at the time and played this very record.
ELO 10538 meaning
ELO would have been even more of a monster (if that is possible) with Roy Wood, but they couldn't get along.
Roy dominated the singles charts in the UK during the early '70's.
We all know what happened to ELO later.
Here's what Jeff Lynn's ELO version sounded like last week 👌 ua-cam.com/video/SLcmvKVHnjo/v-deo.html
Jeff Lynne wrote the 10538 overture in a desperate attempt to notch up the newly formed ELO into a more appealing bracket in the ever-growing music industry.
Dis you see his face ? Was it 10538 ?????
That's THE ELO spirit, containing all the magic.
Horn, rough cellos, the electric guitar and the typical sloppy drumkit. For me the absolute essential what ELO basically means.
Itwillneveraqe
Thank goodness for Jeff Lynne becoming the elo genius we love. This is not Roy woods genius...it's Jeff . But then ,didn't they play tricks on us anyway. ?
There wouldn't have been an ELO without Roy Wood, it was his brainchild in 1968 when he was in The Move and Jeff Lynne was in The Idle Race. The Move had a string of hit singles written by Roy Wood, Jeff Lynne at that time hadn't written a single hit, in fact "10538 Overture" was Lynne's first hit single. Although Lynne's writing was excellent in his time with The Idle Race, it went clean over the record buying public's heads. The truth is by the end of 1969 Lynne was getting frustrated with the Idle Race's lack of success. When Carl Wayne left The Move for a solo career at the same time, Roy Wood asked Jeff Lynne for a second time to join him in The Move. Lynne agreed on condition that they could both go ahead with the ELO project that Wood was planning. After Lynne joined The Move it lasted for another 2 years and 3 months, The Move was the band that laid the golden singles, all written by Roy Wood, the revenue that The Move generated funded the ELO sessions and eventually the debut ELO album. The ELO album was released in November 1971, the last Move single "California Man" hit the UK singles chart in May 1972, "10538 Overture" went into the chart in June 1972 as "California Man" slipped out. Lynne's "Do Ya" was the last track recorded by The Move, but it was Roy Wood's excellent song writing that made The Move a top UK band for six years.
Correct
Spot on with the knowledge of The move and Roy wood.
@@davidmacgregor5193 ... Well said. 👍
@@davidmacgregor5193idle race couldn't even get a hit with here we go round the lemon a song that roy wrote and gave to idle race where it flopped the later version by the move charted