James O'Brien reflects on whether he should give Andrew Tate the oxygen of publicity
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- This video clip is from a LBC show presented by James O'Brien on January 3rd 2023.
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I really believe this channel is a breathe of fresh air as it seems to only deal with facts and truths which is the exact reason why it isn't as popular as it should be. People would rather avoid channels like this to follow their own false pretences. Having said that, I do find this channel makes me rage to boiling point as i am new to living in UK and what I've found out about the runnings of the government and the country are simply infuriating.
A. Tate adored his father, who regularly neglected his kids and wife.
Tate describes how his father would disappear for months, when they were kids, yet he doesn't seem to care that his mother was left to raise them alone.
Well, it's hard to see you kids when your ex-wife leaves the country.
And I haven't seen anything of the Tate siblings complaining about their father yet.
I'd like to see it if you got a link.
@@V4Now What made her leave?
@@joshuataylor3550 could have been her fault, I do not know, a detail my brief search couldn't find.
@@V4Now Could have been his fault.
@@V4Now could of been his fault
100% agree about Tate!! 100% disagree about Peterson. I think your analysis of Peterson is way off.
Comparing Tate to Peterson is ignorant! Peterson is an academic which uses scientific study to back up his opinions and has a real passion to seek out the truth. Thought you were a journalist, perhaps do a bit of research before conflating someone who is actually disrespectful to women.
The Julia Hartley-Brewer intervention was also delicious.
We disapprove of feminism. They’re second class citizens. They are gonna take away our rights using hypergamy, meToo, and divorce court.
Ah, Julia Heartless -Bully.
The comment section seems to be lots of ill-informed angry delusional underachievers projecting their issues on to Tate. Your opinion of Tate seems to based on out of context 30 sec TikTok clips and believing media organizations making allegations without evidence. If he's such a bad person then where are the people coming forward with evidence of how bad that he is? (The woman who claims to have been kidnapped is on video leaving the property and coming back later.)
I've put myself through many long interviews / monologues by Andrew Potato. All this 'taking things out of context' guff is laughable. The longer you're subjected to Andrew Potato's views the more you're left in no doubt the guy is a raving misogynist with a very clear agenda to take as much power away from women as is humanly possible. With violence if necessary
British Police and Interpol have collaborated with Romanian authorities, and they've nabbed a bad'un.
Your liking for misogyny is showing, CF !!!!
For someone who claims he doesn't know Jordan Peterson, he's quite happy to be completely wrong about what Jordan Peterson says about young men.
He dated Peterson’s daughter apparently.
Okay, basement dweller. Back to your fanatical cult daddy.
Absolutely agreed. “I don’t know much about Jordan Peterson BUT…”
I am quite sure I have heard Mr O’Brien criticise others for talking about things they haven’t researched properly…
I’m actually a fan of Mr O’Brien usually - but he’s not done the research here I feel. Mr Peterson didn’t say women did not have terrible lives in history. He simply pointed out that men’s lives were equally poor e.g. they died as a majority in most wars in history for example.
Just important to quote people properly I feel
The withering dismissal of Peterson - "but if you tidy your bedroom all your dreams will come true" - is absolutely *chef's kiss*
Shut up. People like you who try to ridicule people like peterson allow people the Andrew tate to gain more notoriety. You have nothing for men (if you disagree and you have something to offer then I'm dying to know in your next silly reply) but you dismiss every lifeline sent to them making way for more radical folk like tate. People like you literally make the world worse.
Why does everyone use that as an example?
Peterson has many flaws, and since his illness, he seems to have gone much more wacko, but to compare him to someone like Tate is absurd. Love or hate him, Peterson has some interesting lectures up on UA-cam (the early ones) based on his work as a clinical psychologist.
@@blueodum "much more wacko" what? What's wacko about him?
To answer the question James poses at the end: As a convert from the kind of messages Tate preaches, you cannot dismiss this man as just a "Dude on the internet". Yes, there is the issue that in providing a platform for this type of thinking, you give it the attention it so craves, but if it goes completely unchecked, it will spawn more people like Tate, who will continue to preach his message even if he fades into obscurity. Just because he doesnt hold any governmental level of power, doesnt mean he is completely incapable of preying on young men's insecurities and creating stubborn mysoginists who see nothing wrong within themselves and blame their mistreatment of people on warped lies, that they themselves have been mistreated, and that no self reflection is required because its everyone else's fault (which is a very dangerous mindset, considering I used to harbour it). The way to tackle people like Tate is learn as much as you can about them, and then, as James said, prove undisputably, in front of their audiences, that their way of thinking has harmful consequences to both the mysoginists they spawn, and the women who have to be subjected to that mysoginistic behaviour.
What was it that helped you realize that was not the best way to live your life?
Are you sure about that? learn as much as you can about someone you don't know why? don't you have anything better to do with your precious time? Don't you know life itself is time, that's the true wealth, why waste it? Did he force you to do something? you are in charge of your time,
You don't understand why Tate is popular because you can't look in the mirror. He's not popular because he's a sexist preacher of hatred to women, he's popular because he gives confidence and advice to young men who have spent their whole lives being scapegoated and told they're fundamentally wrong by society.
@@rocketmonty9916 I do understand why Tate is popular, because one day I did look in the mirror, and I didnt like what was staring back at me. The advice he preaches, I oncr followed. It turns you into a sexist, mysogynistic man baby, blaming society and women for all the woes of being a man, and avoids male accountability at all costs because otherwise the entire message he preaches falls apart. He'll tell you everything you want to hear, that it isnt your fault, when realistically (and also, unfortunately) it is our male peers, and people like Tate himself, thats precisely why us men are the target of disapproval by society. I once believed, like you seem to, that society and women were to blame for overzealously scrutanising men, until I went out of my way to understand why that is the case. Until you realise and understand the agenda behind what Tate, and people like him, masterfully weave into their ideology, and take into account the fact that they preach it to impressionable, lonely men who dont know any better, then I must guide you to the mirror, instead.
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And, *thank you so very much* for demonstrating *respect and care* for yourself, your future, your species, the women and girls in your life and the world, and for those who respect, depend upon and safely, consensually, healthfully *love* them also!
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Andrew Tate gives off some serious Jeffery Epstein/ R Kelly vibes.
Alex Jones too
James O'Brien you're being shadowbanned by your own LBC app, not been able to load your radio show releases on the app for two weeks while every other radio presenter works
Delete the lbc cr-app and reinstall it. Worked for me
@@burtbag3839 Yup that's what I did, still funny how it was just James O'brien it wasn't working for though, right? :) how specific this "technical issue" has been is just sus
He was on holiday , he had holiday cover since a couple days before Christmas
@@olliebailey5731 Yes but that's not the problem here, we are talking about his previous shows to the holiday etc - his recordings were all "bugged" during the Christmas holidays for a certain number of people, I can only confirm with a couple of people I know though all people new to download the app like myself
'He made a video in what appeared to be his mums dressing gown' LOL spat my coffee out on that one!!
Semi famous British radio broadcaster considers whether to give the worlds current most famous internet personality publicly 😂
According to Andrew Tates mother they have a very close relationship and in fact the first thing he did when he made money was to ensure she didn't have to work again and that she can have anything she wants.
Act or not, his effect is toxic. No excuses.
Be a man mate
@@PpPp-ku4sy what does that mean?
@@PpPp-ku4sy that's a pretty beta thing to say...
@@NeverQuiteAlex I was just tryna get his thread going.. still in the Christmas mood and all that. What should I have said.?
@@PpPp-ku4sy perhaps what you meant?
6:23 Come on James that wasn’t his mums dressing gown. Those were Del Boys Pyjamas.
Tate has a strong appeal to immature male children - of all ages. I know James has a similar line here, but I came up with it first!
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his literal message is don't be a man child take responsibility for your life just like jordan peterson
Take your vaccine and bend over
This guy is the reason I stopped watching lbc
A statement like "teenage boys are weird!" is precisely what is driving 'teenage boys' to characters like Andrew Potato... perhaps think about that? Also, while I'm no huge fan of Jordan Peterson - I agree with a lot of what he says, and I can tell that you've completely misrepresented what he says regarding female/male relationships. And in fact you may be just completely wrong about what he says. Peterson's arguments NEVER place the blame for the lack of a relationship; or having a poor one; on "the world"... but always on the individual and the roles and actions they take. You should really actually watch/listen to some of his material before making such a baseless claim...
Cry about it
Andrew Tate is innocent and the truth will prevail
Yes, I think he should definitely be talked about, to break the bubble / echo chamber that forms up around people like that. It ensures or at least may help ensure that those who might be close to "falling under his spell" get a chance of hearing views from both sides, otherwise they'll only hear from his supporters and none of his detractors.
You could say the precise same thing about James and his more ardent viewers, would they perhaps listen to a more right wing opinion and take on board what was being said in a fair minded way?
@My Name there's a difference between being right wing, and being a criminal who encourages violence towards women...
@@mattcox919 The last comment I heard of his = ‘women are precious and should be taken care of’. How is that encouraging violence ?
@@Pianoteacherpeter The fact that you don't see the context in that statement proves precisely what James is saying. Incels just don't know the difference I guess
Guilty till proven innocent these days.
The defense of all alt-right criminal snowflakes.
@@arctic_haze proving my point - “criminal.”
@@hugster2000 Logically wrong unless you believe all of them are innocent. I meant obviously the ones which are not but use this defense.
@@hugster2000 But you are possibbly criminally insane if you give oxygen to the tate-types.
@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence adults have conversations with people they disagree with.
Question to James did you ever watch him in a podcast ,your accusations are baseless.
Top G is trying to stop young men from turning into James O’soy.
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He’s one of the most well known men on the planet. I don’t think he needs LBC z-listers to big him up.
That’s not the argument. The argument is whether or not Jame’s should give him credit. He’s talking about his _own_ morals. Ofc Tate doesn’t need LBC. James admits as much.
Everything I've learned about this man has been against my will.
Someone forced you to watch a youtube video about him?
@@elhior23 No, but people also watch documentaries about the Holocaust, for education purpose, not because they agree with the Final Solution (some probably do). I hope you understand this.
Let me guess you think gender is made up
Why did someone tie you up and hold your eyelids open and force you watch UA-cam shorts?
Much like his victims...incoming...
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8:50 or so - I think that’s a gross misrepresentation of Jordan P. public ideas; he plainly and firmly says responsibility begins with the individual, which is exactly opposite your misrepresentation. He advocates for personal responsibility in many different ways, not blaming others for your failures, lack, etc. btw, I love you and your show and normally agree with you on most issues, but you’re wrong about this one.
And how do you explain around 9:55 that it's an "appalling theory" that women have been oppressed historically. Or does Jordan P not view the historic lack of a vote as being oppressive?
I've watched a few of his videos. I recall a female journalist questioning him and he actually bared his teeth in a snarl- dude did not like push back from a woman. Yet the same question was asked by Joe Rogan and he was able to answer like a normal human
That phrase always reminds me of the following quote by the late Linda Smith regarding Neil Hamilton: “I don't really like you saying his name, because it gives him the oxygen of publicity and I'm not happy with him having the oxygen of oxygen.” 😂
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I was going to quote exactly this!
Desperate for attention? What joke I think his videos have more views than LBC listeners... And that's whilst he's cancelled.
Funny how LBC love talking about this guy but never considered actually getting him on the show to challenge his views.
Its because he would absolutely embarrass James who seemingly knows near to nothing about andrew tate
I doubt Tate would agree to that. He wouldn't want to get owned by a lefty like James & he sure would get owned just like Greta did.
Jordan peterson has literally said if no women will talk to you the problem is you. I'm losing brain cells while this guy talks.
@@oldskoolbodybuildingroutin7178 I did.
@@oldskoolbodybuildingroutin7178 elementary school argument tactics I see. We are all impressed.
@@oldskoolbodybuildingroutin7178 your question was answered by the first thing I said. I gave an example of Jordan Jeterson saying the exact opposite of what the man in the video claims Peterson's viewpoint was, and then stated the video made me lose brain cells. It shouldn't require any further explanation.
Always thought Tater was rejected by girls when he was young. Hearing him talk, that is the first thing you think of. And he's vowed his whole life at getting revenge. As you said, 10 year old of any age...
Everyone almost gets rejected when young. So everyone is vengefull i guess right ?
One does not automatically imply the other, how would you come to that conclusion?
@@patrickcardon1643 bingo. If one does not imply the other so why imply it?
All men were rejected by girls and took it on the chin. To dwell on it is a shaming tactic and dishonest.
I think James has Peterson completely wrong. Would love to see the two have a chat to be fair
You compared Jordan Peterson, the champion of self responsibility, to Andrew tate? Sir you really need to research before opening your mouth
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Every Andrew Tate video I just go on comments and point out "The Matrix" is a film by two transgender women SNM
I know so much about this guy without bothering Google, because he is everywhere - but sooo many people in my life have never heard of him , which leads me to believe that I am chronically online 🥺👀😳 and so this is my punishment 😁.
@@JediJide2Lmao you sound like a failed man that is mad at the fact that Tate has so much influence and is wealthier then most of us could ever be. What has he said that’s so offensive to you? I’d love to know..?
he had so much youtube shortz propagnda it was getting ridiculus
Yes. People who comment on UA-cam are chronically online. Many people don't know who MrBeast us for example.
@@getslikedahhhbroo1851 copium
@@mrbookish6701 Because I don't want to Google and send traffic to unsavoury types , plus I don't want to give the algorithm any ideas - I have no idea who or what mrbeast is. Can you enlighten me or am I better off not knowing?
I'm not sure I agree with Jordan Peterson being referenced in the same breath as Andrew Tate? I wouldn't consider myself a misogynist and I got a lot of help from Peterson's talks and 12 Rules. Does this not risk polarising people who are more balanced?
Yes O'Brien comes across as very ignorant here. Peterson has had so many interesting guests on his podcast and fascinating, enlightening discussions..He hosted the feminist Helen Joyce, for example. Not the sort of thing a misogynist would do... The sound bite about "women not being oppressed historically" is out of context and can be justified, it depends on one's presuppositions. The woke mind just refuses to comprehend anything that goes against the victim narrative they're always peddling. What about the millions of men who went to war and died to protect their women and children, for example?
He did say he watched his mother call the police on his dad twice. I think there's some anger there with the relationship between his parents.
I saw a flood of his clip on UA-cam shorts. Still get loads of sneako and other “alpha bros”. Disliked everyone and commenting and pointing out the fallacies and misogyny… never get intelligent pushback and despite my aggressive blocking of channels I’m still getting more and more. It’s so easy for youngsters to fall into the rabbit hole.
UA-cam could shut them all off in a minute, they obviously choose not too.
If you comment you'll get more, engagement drives the algorithm.
none of them refer to themselves as alpha. not a single one of them. fact.
@@fazeext9777 kinda like none of them acknowledge their misogyny and exploitative behaviour. Not a single one. Fact
@@Steventrafford I see, you engineer yourself a nice little online bubble so everyone you see agrees with your worldview.... that's a sad indictment of you as a person.
James, James, James....little knowledge is dangerous. Have you ever heard of Misandry? Will you speak about the false allegations made against him in Romenia? Do you ever speak about false allegations destroying the life of so many men? James, James, James. Is it equality or preferential treatment that is sought? Real journalism?
Your opinions are preached as though they are fact. You don't know what you're talking about.
Tate's greatest success was not grooming women but instead it was grooming young men.
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Yes. To become the best version of themselves. Get in the gym, don’t be lazy, don’t feel sorry for yourself, work hard, earn money….surprised it took so long for someone to come along and state the obvious…
@@azizttt it diddnt. You not heard of Mr T?
@@morganpointer2457 I have but don’t know if he’s broadcasting much these days…not many young men of today know how to use VHS
@@azizttt nice cherry picking 😂
Just a side issue. James mentioned people who like, or at least don't hate, Greta Thunberg and Meghan. I find the hatred towards these two women actually quite disturbing and a lot of it comes from old gits like me (74) - basically boomer men. I've seen it expressed by men I've known for years, it's intense and visceral and I just don't get it - I genuinely don't understand it and I'm a bit long in the tooth not to understand this stuff. It's getting worse as well. We are regressing at a rate of knots.
it is extraordinary. and its not about disagreement... i disagree somewhat with Greta myself (although her engagement in the Tate thing is nothing short of heroic). it's the bitterness and contempt that is unbearable... how can these old men not see that they degrade themselves?
There are aspects to female nature which sorry aren’t very appealing but they are necessary and it’s how we survived as a species but it doesn’t mean we have to accept Meghan Markle is some civil rights hero. You have to ask yourself if Meghan would have given Harry a second glance if he didn’t have that much money and status. It’s opportunism which I support but for her to say all the rest of us have to be egalitarian is hypocritical in the extreme.
@@irisharan3038 Would you say the same of Kate, that she wouldn't would have given Will a second glance if he didn’t have that much money and status?
I'm your age too and can't understand why either!
@@Xensor73 Exactly. No one ever calls her a gold digger despite her being a commoner. I've never heard anyone suggesting she made a point of chasing him at Edinburgh Uni. But then compliant Kate accepts the royal life and never rocks the boat. She even wears the right clothes to Wimbledon.
Top G! 🔥
James O'Brien is a potato!
Not giving desperate people publicity? Like most of the people James O'Brien interviews...
You’re right - you certainly don’t know much about Jordan Peterson. You yourself are not being responsible by calling him a misogynist. You should listen to his talk about women not being oppressed rather than misinterpreting.
Greta: "that's what happens when you don't recycle your pizza boxes"
Romanian rozzers 10x better than the met police.
I think the Romanian passport office would be aware of his presence.
@@greamespens1460 apparently he has loads of passports and identities so he can slip in and out of countries.
@@sanjuro7727 Fair enough
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I think you're being a bit harsh on Jordan Peterson there, he's a clinical psychologist mate not a raging misogynist
If he isn't like that in private, then it's even worse. I actually can have some sympathy for broken, toxic people who can't help themselves. But someone who cynically uses that for financial gain is the lowest of the low in my opinion.
trump, Boris johnson, nigel farage comes to mind.
You do realise 90% of people who are in the public eye who advocate all these different rights are only do it for a PR stunt. Meaning they are doing exactly what Tate is doing. Lying just so they gain a certain target audience on their side. Whether you like it or not literally everyone is doing it one way or the other.
@@johndoe1909 All the ones you listed are malignant narcissists and clinical sociopaths or, most definitely in Conald's case, psychopathic.
@not a human
@@notahuman2098 He is guilty of many, many vile things. No idea about the charges in Romania but the man is guilty. His entire career is vile.
James maybe listen to some of Jordan Petersons lectures or read one of his books before comparing him to Andrew tate. Peterson is a genius who backs up all of his statements with data and facts and has the qualifications to go with it.
Tate is a fighter, he's smart because by putting outrageous statements out online to get views (which has worked) he's managed to make A LOT of money and gain influence but comparing him to an academic is just ignorant
It’s the misogyny. That’s what they have in common. Also that both deny it.
@@ApacheMagic where is the misogyny from Peterson?
@@ApacheMagic any examples of Peterson being misogynistic?
So you did NO research about him n went on a rant , that’s why LBC won’t be as big as it can be .
‘A touch of the Jordan Peterson’s somebody I don’t know much about’ yet you still feel able to pontificate on what he is talking about? Even using Peterson in the same sentence as Tate makes you look foolish
nope - they're both trying to dismantle women, just one of them is more shouty and more basic than the other
@@artemisianwell5122that’s nonsense. Not a thing he has said is about ‘dismantling women’ . I would be stunned if you could provide a single credible example.
So he’s been inside for over 30 days and they still haven’t managed to find evidence.
They can't find something doesn't exist, and because the system corrupted they gonna keep him anyway
@@NANINANI-cs6rn Exactly.
How could you possibly give him publicity? He gets about 50x the views you do 😂
A radio audience is not measured in views.
@@tinfoilhat6343 go round the world and see who's more famous tate or James obrien 😂 tate was at one point the most googled man on the planet last year
@@nathancrittenden8525 lady gaga sold more than Bach. There you go....
@@Rebelconformist82 you mean in a time where everyone can buy music at their fingertips on their phone vs a time where only the rich could afford to go see his music? Yeah that comparison really makes sense
It's not often I see James fall for the headlines, but he admits he doesn't know much about them, but his analysis of Jordan Peterson is wrong. Jordan's a clinical psychologist and only wants the best for people. James unfortunately has taken the quote about oppression out of context.
This is a brilliant example as to why I no longer listen to LBC or indeed have any faith is genuine journalism. Fools.
Buddy he's the most googled man in the world. You're bottom feeding off his publicity not the other way around
Misogyny hurts everyone.
Snowflake
Your opinion of the topic would be more relevant if you actually watched Andrew Tates content instead of only reporting about the fabricated lies
Tate flooded social media with bots uploading videos of himself, he was banned from TikTok for manipulating the algorithm. This is what led to him his name being googled so much because no one knew who TF he was
Everyone manipulates the algorithm and that is not why they said he was taken off TicTok there is no rule he broke that's in the guidelines on his specific accounts.
They weren't bots. He got all his fans that signed up to Hustler University to create new accounts and to repost his videos on there.
It's still against tiktok community guidelines though.
@@V4Now no he'd broken several community guidelines. Tiktok are pretty trigger-happy with banning people.
He was running an affiliate marketing scheme (not sure if it's still up), where in theory people who uploaded clips of him were earning money from the ad revenue and platforming Andrew tate in the process.
Unfortunately Laura, this is genuinely a massive part of social media. The "algorithm" and manipulation of it are everywhere across many different social media platforms, UA-cam especially. It happens with people posting clickbait, or generalising their content around certain trends to appeal to the algorithm. You don't get banned for tailoring your content to the algorithm or manipulating it. Andrew tate and others engaged in the wider trend of posting clips from hour long podcasts.
@@Mr.Glitch he didn't on his personal accounts he literally didn't break the rules with proof I tried looking, there's just hearsay.
Every awful thing he said was on other peoples platforms not his
Especially young teenage boys like Piers Morgan. I think both Morgan and Andrew Potato are both failing to recover from the fact that they had a difficult puberty and struggled with girls as teenagers (probably due to their terrible personalities). If only they hadn't attached so much of their self worth to 'success with women'. Maybe if they'd dug a bit deeper into their own psyche they'd be in a better place mentally.
Amen
And Jeremy Clarkson
@@James_Doyle83 Love Jeremy Clarkson
And the narcissist O'Brien isn't? Wake up you mug
@@ppo2424 ....Oh dear.
Tate probably doesn't even know who James O Brian is 😆
This guy has no clue not a ounce of education on what Tate preaches, it's the exact opposite he thinks... Tate preaches responsibility, accountability and not blaming anyone other than yourself, he tells you mental health is not real, go to the gym, get a job be a strong protective man and THEN woman will come, then have kids and be a example to them!
Tate preaches disgusting misogyny. Just watch Shelagh Fogarty's last video for the proof.
Mental health is not real.and your gonna talk up this man.its one persons opinion.what is tates education exactly.
Yes, you do need to talk about Tate, then take very careful note of anyone who tries to defend him. For women, knowing if someone likes Tate's views is very useful and powerful information in the quest to keep themselves safe. It also puts into the mainstream the majority view that people like Tate and his supporters are to be avoided and helps to sideline them more effectively. Knowledge is power.
Male feminists like you are dangerous to women
@@African_Rose Anyone who subscribes to gutter media outlets like Fox News (yes I did check) automatically forfeits the right to taking the moral high ground on empathy towards other humans.
And yet people with comments like yours (e.g. the male feminist) often turn out to be the most abusive towards women.
I've lost my respect for this man now. To put Jordan Peterson in the same breath is like saying Genghis Kahn was a saint.
Jordan Peterson wants people to take stock of their life Andrew Tate just wants the attention.
To say women have been oppressed throughout history is deeply unnerving. It's the poor who have been oppressed throughout history not just one gender.
Take the oracle's of Delphi and epsus for example..... Cleopatra Elizabeth and Catherine the Great. Women have had just as an impact on history and culture as men.
You can't equate Jordan Peterson with Andrew ,both are miles apart.
Jordan Peterson brings positive vibes, while Andrew Tate is so vile.
Won't refer to his name in the video because he's holier than thou but will put it in the title to drive views and ad revenue.
I doubt he does the titles for his employers UA-cam page
Weak feminist men will always try to tear down strong masculine men in a cowardly indirect fashion. The attacks on Tate have made that clear.
As a psychotherapist of 26 years I think you are such an important and vital voice in the UK!!!! Please keep going, please keep talking and please keep shinning a light on all the people and topics chosen. Your views on Andrew Potato, the delusional J Peterson are sound and intelligent.
Massive thank you for your emotional and intellectual role modelling.
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Does Peterson say men shouldn't work on themselves and take responsibility? That's not what I've understood his message to be.
As a psychotherapist of 26 years, you clearly know nothing of the sociological and psychological needs of young men, or you just don't care. Either way, more and more men listens to Tate and Peterson because so-called experts like you just blame them.for everything. Go figure (I'm sure you won't)
@@mikemorenilla7444 🙄 here we go with men pretending a thing isn't a thing.
I'm no fan of Tate but how is Peterson delusional exactly? Can you summarise?
Tate really loves his mother and care about women...only he thinks feminism is garbage. It's big difference with Mysogini tho. And James try to relate with all mother😅😅it's a joke
Ahhh, "he's not like that in private, it's all an act". The Clarkson defense.
Every online a..hole's defense :)
I think its an act, to promote his dodgy "Hustler's University" and other money grabs from his admirers. However the damage is the same, act or not.
@@jimg9820well said. The damage is the same. His intent matters not.
It is an act, and the guy is a marketing genius. You don't have to like him to understand that.
Or even the Fox News, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and various other right wing lunacy defence. “This isn’t real. It’s just entertainment.”
Hi James I definitely agree misogynists should be opposed and challenged and Andrew Tate qualifies! I’d be careful, however, about lumping Jordan Peterson into that group. I am guessing Andrew Tate is NOT on the same intellectual plain as JP. This is not to say that informed individuals shouldn’t debate JP. They should! However, I get the impression you haven’t read any of JP’s books or seen his online vlogs etc. I suggest you do so and apply every ounce of critical thought you can, and then make up your mind!
My favorite thing about this whole debacle is his apologists trying to say Top Greta didn’t get deep under Andrew Potato’s thin skin. That simple quip destroyed Potato’s pride
In your mind that's what happened..
You only have to watch his pathetic 'response' to see he was seething.
@@PpPp-ku4sy Wipe your eyes, your daddy Andrew wouldn't defend you if you got owned by a teenage girl, you know? Stop being his little simp, it's pathetic.
@@PpPp-ku4sy he made a whole video proving it bothered him deeply.
@@faithpearlgenied-a5517 you tried. That's all anyone can ask.
I'm pretty sure domestic assaults have gone up bc of Andrew Tate...that is not something I think someone should be proud of making for their legacy. Plus, Hustler's University is just a pyramid scheme and what is even funnier is that he isn't even in the videos. He has "experts" that explain certain ideologies. Hopefully, the fans will c, when they keep getting rejected by strong woman, that Andrew Potato is not right.
Plus, it's going to take years of hardwork for these teenage boys to b able to afford a Bugatti. Hopefully by then they will fallout from the echo chamber that Mr. Potato head has brainwashed them into.
I have to disagree with you on Andrew Tate not getting enough mother love. It's almost always the lack of their fathers in their lives that cause this type of behaviour in teenage boys. He maybe 36 years old intellectually but emotionally he's still a teenage boy that was bullied in school
The accusation leveled against men that they have not been given enough love from their mothers is a subtle misandry. It's basically another way of suggesting that a man has not grown up and still a little boy. The same misandry follows from Thunberg's assumption that Tate had a small manhood: small manhood=still a little boy. It's sexism, but one that society deems is fair game.
@@martynblackburn9632 You REALLY don't get it do you. The types of people that follow Andrew Tate are the people that relate to him for two reasons, they were either bullied in school and generally lack social skills or grew up in single mother households, or possibly both of these reasons. Misandry has nothing to do with anything. Keep telling yourself that all men's problems are caused by women when society is a patriarchy not a matriarchy if thats helps you sleep at night - it won't. Accept that most of our problems are caused by us and can be solved by us
@@franklingoodwin You are referring to type. I am only concerned with statements he makes and whether or not they are true. I care very little for who follows him or doesn't follow him.
you're poorer than him though
@@hassyg4083 What has money got to do with anything? Money can't buy you a great personality, decency, morals, genuine happiness, a wonderful family or true friends. I'd hope most people would choose those things over money and a life of emptiness any day.
You clearly wouldn't, that's why you're upset and your life is miserable.
Please Please Please jog on James and let LBC fill your spot with Steve Allen
Tate is a top man
He's so top, he not only got destroyed by a 19yo, he also managed to tip off the police on himself. He's gonna have a "top" time in prison.
@@ratatatuff they knew he was in the country because his private plane landed and he was on the manifest, literally nothing to do with Greta..... this was confirmed by a Romanian police official. Do t fall for every clownish conspiracy you read on twitter....
@@ratatatuff are you happy, just becouse you cant handle his free mind. Pessy youre already have made your mind on him beocuse youre losir
I reckon while he's in jail, he'll be "bottom" 😂
James thunking he has a wider reach than tate 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤯🤯🤯🤯
Does he really thunk it?
I guarrentee more owners of Ferraris listen to JoB then that bald Spud
I like James, but I don’t appreciate the causal demeaning of Jordan Peterson. JP says the exact opposite to what James says - if girls don’t like you, the first thing you need to do is look at yourself and ask yourself what do you have to offer? Girls don’t owe you a relationship. The entire point of JP’s message is that blaming an entire gender for your shortcomings is entirely arrogant, and one should take responsibility over yourself - which can then cascade to responsibility in a job, in a community, and then to a woman and family. Just because he actually tries to help incels rather than push them back into their caves doesn’t mean he is encouraging their behaviour.
Again, I like and broadly agree with James. But I do think this is, quite frankly, lazy misrepresentation.
GBNews interviewed him on "surviving cancel culture" and put it on yt about a week before he got arrested 🤣
Piers and murdoch seem to like putting didgy people like trump, alex jones and tate on their shows a lot..
Aaaand was then released with no charge, gaining him yet more fame. Well done stoking it, appreciate the help
@@tobiasmccallum9697 got him 😅
@@tobiasmccallum9697 Last i checked he was still under arrest mate
@@tobiasmccallum9697 He has been charged lol
Perhaps do that research you admit you haven't done, before you accuse Jordan Peterson of saying exactly the opposite of his message. He does say that if you have a problem with the world, or women or anything in general, YOU are wrong.
Spot on with Tate but you’re wrong about Jordan Peterson: he has said on more than a few occasions that if men can’t find a girlfriend then they should be asking themselves if there’s something that needs to be fixed about themselves
Ptdrson tate borh are slimy wanna know it all.
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines I’m not sure about set in stone, and so far as I am aware, he wasn’t making a claim of absolute knowledge, but it seems to be a reasonable hypothesis that if multiple people are passing you over than the common factor is likely the problem; yourself.
Makes sense right?
Or is it more likely that the problem is the multiple different people that pass you over?
@@pipo4158 they both have some element of slime, but I would never place them both in the same category for almost anything at all.
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines multiple lectures of his, multiple interviews (most famously said it in joe rogan) and in his book....
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines if that’s your opinion, that’s fine, but I think it’s quite clear and very easily argued that Jordan is much more redeemable in multiple ways and on multiple levels than Tate
James you are a minnow compared to Tate, he needs no publicity from you.
James. After Greta's two devastatingly funny tweets the correct pronunciation of her name is obviously Fun-berg.
Looneytoonberg
@@gerardomenendez8912 turdberg
@@usynnstradler there you go
Funny? What exactly was funny. I don't know this tate character or what he does but thunbergs response was more like that of a 10yr old school kid. Quite pathetic really.
That's funny & I'm a massive fan of Greta.
Dude tate is the most googled man in the world. Your oxygen will make zero difference, you just want clicks
You’re so wrong to namedrop Jordon Peterson here JOB. It discredits the necessary condemnation of legit dangerous people.
Peterson is legit dangerous too.
Funny James should mention it, but his dad was a terrible and potentially abusive father, who his mother moved to get away from. He and his brother however adored his dad and blamed their mother. Any therapist couldn't ask for a bigger cliche.
They didn’t blame their mother for anything. They’ve praised their mother for doing a great job raising them in bad situations and now she has financial freedom that her boys provided. You’re a bot mate. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@Mikehowarth1988 am I from the Matrix? XD
@@RobynLeSueur the Tates always say how much they loved their father and that they love and look after their mum. You’re a bot of the matrix because you’re spewing the lies of the main stream and lying about the Tates characters when there is nothing that suggests that what you’re saying is true. You don’t have the faculty’s or decency as a human being to even look into what you’re saying. You wouldn’t dare spread the misinformation if the Tates were in the same room. You are a lying coward with 0 self accountability. A true worm.
@@Mikehowarth1988 do you guys ever like, self-reflect and realise how insane you sound when you say things like this? Just curious.
@@RobynLeSueur do you ever self reflect when you spread blatant lies about someone to try and damage somebody’s character?. Worm
Free Top G
Get it right, Jordan Peterson said the idea that ONLY women were oppressed is an awful theory. Both men and women had a hard time but stuck around to deal with it - you should bring JP on for a debate he would run rings around you, akin to the Cathy Newman interview.
James o’brian would get destroyed by Jordan Peterson in any form of debate, academic or not, hands down any day of the week. This guy is a pure 🔔 🔚
Another sad guy...what is LBC?
I never had a hug from either parent and still (aged72) I find hugging anybody difficult. I don't go around hating anybody! I don't like many either..
Hugging is overrated.
@@joshuataylor3550 Cuddles are the thing!
@@joshuataylor3550 don't knock it til you try it.
Some people will think its some kind of neglect but not all families are huggers. Mine aren't and going into an office is pain for me because all of the women hugging when I arrive. To me though its the same as a hugging family visiting friends to find out they all kiss you when you arrive.
@@joshuataylor3550 No it isn't.
Katie Hopkins has come out in support of him.........i rest my case m,lord....lol
Do your research James... and stop joining in on the BS...
Andrew Tate literally wrote a book about how to engage in human trafficking, detailing the method he used, which is called the 'lover boy' method. He has literally told people how to do it, and *that he does it*, and probably the most appalling thing is the number of the young men (who he similarly exploits within the culture of the toxic masculinity he advocates) who defend him, and claim he is innocent.
Cringe grow up
@@Jr.BaconCheese and an example of what I'm saying turns up in the replies, right on cue. I'm praying for you.
Because he is innocent
@@kippsguitar6539 cope harder. 🙄
Any man that talks about toxic masculinity like a feminist, I'm sorry that's weak.
Tate proves, those who protest they’re stopped from expressing their opinions, often have little to add to ‘any’ conversation. Everyone has the right to be heard, but not the right to make you listen.
Everyone does not, in fact, have the right to be heard, as that implies that everyone have the right to a platform. This is blatantly not true and is, in fact, a hypocritical position at its core as people like Andy Taint, Elon Muskrat, etc, represent a "Rights for me but not for thee" position that's blatantly about denying everyone but their yes-men a platform. This is why they must always be the first ones to have every right to be heard fundamentally denied, or everyone else's right to be heard is endangered.
@@northlondon6655 I argue that we need to deny one demographic their right to be heard because they are a threat to all other demographics' rights. You argue that my right to be heard should be denied because you don't like my views. We are not the same.
@North London the views on mistreating women and exploiting them? Great 🤣
@@GrahamChapman this argument can be easily used against anyone. What you’re saying is very dangerous and you only think this will not affect you because you’re a liberal with colonial amnesia
Make fun of their ridiculous Kukness,they love being persecuted,makes them feel…,something,shame is what they need to understand..
Whatever you think about Jordan Peterson, how his message is described here is way off. Its the parallel opposite in fact. JP will tell you to change, and that if you are finding rejection time and again, then the fault is not other people but yourself. I know there is alot to not like about JP and im not here to defend all he says but this is pure misinformation.
So, James is not qualified to talk about the account of someone that has met and spent time with, Andrew Tate. But seems more than qualified to talk about Andrew Tate's relationship with his mother and suggest he has a bad relationship with her. I think as a journalist, you're more qualified to talk about a statement from a "witness".
Exactly, James lost all credibility in this video when he said this, he has not gathered basic data on Tate, yet goes on to make those accusations that he is not qualified to make.
@@ru76224 Shelagh Fogarty did all the research needed on Tate. You can hear it on her latest video.
@@MrRailjunkie Thanks, but this video is by James, we're both talking about James making a fool of himself.
I don't recall James saying Shelagh did his research for him, go see her video.
@rubal7690 you might be talking about James making a fool of himself but not me. In my opinion he never does that.
@@MrRailjunkie so you could argue that you've been brainwashed...
I don’t see why you’d put Tate and Peterson inside the same box.
Correct. Mr Peterson would debate JOB into submission.
JP might or he might not debate JoB into submission. But it’s pretty obvious he cares deeply about the effect of his words on other people and isn’t simply a grifter. It’s very dangerous to put a sincere man into the same category as a grifter. The sincere man’s arguments get used and abused to defend the grifter’s.
I actually agree with a lot of JoB’s worldview, but he lacks the empathy required to persuade anyone who disagrees with him to his point of view. He’s a lazy journalist too - by default he talks ad hominem rather than by analysing what people actually say in context. Those things are related: his lack of empathy prevents him listening properly sometimes. It’s easy to pick apart what most of his dissenting callers argue because they are often incoherent. Because he’s so used to doing that he’s very superficial with subtler arguments and more reasoned thinkers like JP. I think he has a tendency to treat everyone who says something he disagrees with like they are one of his less intellectually gifted callers.
Tate is stating that men and women are equal in value but not equal in their roles which has been true for centries and I can't see how that is mysogeny. He tries to promote men to be the best version of themselves (go to the gym, build a career, learn a skill) instead of looking for someone to blame which you falsely claim is his narrative. You've just made yourself look very ignorant and, agreeably, "childish". If you haven't researched him enough to make an accurate judgement then you shouldn't be voicing your opinions on such a platform. A lot of his stuff is satirical/abrasive and it is a character he plays for entertainment but I do agree that that can be misinterpretted by some.
100% agree with you, I basically just commented on the same thing.
You are the one misrepresenting Tate's views. "Let me be clear, I am definitely sexist, & I'm definitely a misogynist" Andrew Tate.
"Allow manipulation to see where your enemy wants you to go, then use your mind to break the trap and punish the perpetrators. " ~ Emory Tate
Its mad people talk so openly about him but clearly haven’t watched a full pod with him on, and these journalists should have realistically watched it all to be able to speak
cringe
@@2nd100k chill, gus fring was just acting G
Sorry James but you need to wake up and stop being paid by the media
Some of the most respected members of our society are doing far worst that Andrew will ever do. Still waiting for the Epstein list.