One thing to note most of the other solvents are oder free when they are initially produced but the oder is added in as a safety mechanism so one can tell when it's present due to the fumes of solvents being quite bad.
Right now I use Gundam POUR type markers with alcohol and hobby/makeup pointed cotton swabs. I go for really clean, fine lines mosty of the time so I need to use precision swabs. And since It's the primary customization I do on kits (alongside decals and detail painting), I tend to put the most time into it. On that note, I wish you would have tested the pour type markers. They're completely different than the usual pen type gundam markers. I will say I'd like to give those swabs a try in particular. They look good for getting the amount of detail I try to achieve with my panel lines.
I'd recommend DSPIAE Panel Line Eraser, it cleans better than cotton swap because it has soft flat surface and you can just use a scissor to trim the used parts out to use it more. You don't even need the stick, you can just buy the eraser head replacements and hold them with an alligator clam or a wood stick. Also the wait 5min vs 30min isn't related to the cleaning solutions, but rather how much panel line ink is applied to the area. If you use a ink pen instead of a brush and controls the amount of pour into the area, it dries fairly fast and you can clean with enamel thinner 2-3 min after pour.
Big fan of the pour type Gundam markers. They give great results and clean up is real easy either way a little bit of isopropyl alcohol and microfiber cloth.
Tamiya panel liner and Gundam pour type markers are great!! I haven't tried weathering yet, but lighter fuild is my weapon of choice. I do most of my building indoors, so I take precautions when my kiddos are around.
I usually used the pour type Gundam Markers panel liner available in grey and black and used a Tamiya bottle paint remover on a cotton tip to clean them up.
I use a calligraphy pen with an extra fine point nib, I think the nib is 0.25 mm wide, and cheap craft fluorescent paint diluted in water in a 1:1 ratio. Then I use an eraser to clean off any excess.
I stick to Zippo lighter fluid for consistency with cleaning up the Tamiya Accent Colors, but I'm excited to try this Solven stuff out, since it's odor free!
I haven't done any panel lining myself and I dont have a clean up method because of that! Though smell and potentially toxic odors keep me from really diving deep into that aspect of this hobby. If I had to choose how I would approach panel lining it would be Acrylic Washing or oil paints! Ive seen a bunch of really nice ways of cleaning up that paint to solve my distaste for odors. I also think it would be a nice test idea for a part 2 to use Oil Pants and/or Acrylic Washes (meme example is Noln Oil from GW)
I use a combination of the felt tip matker, the pour type markers, and the tamiya accent colors. I love the felt marker as theyre cheap and super easy to use as i mainly topcoat my straight builds. On the other note, i havent seen anyone mention this but but the stem of the cotton swabs we use are usually paper! When im done with the cotton swab, i use a durable nipper to cut the ends off and i use the stem as a detail panel liner cleaner. I use the eraser style gundam marker with the combination of using a few cotton swabs and then using the stem to clean up my panel lines. TLDR: Harvest the paper stem of all your cotton swabs and use them by dabing a small amount of solvant of your choosing and go to town! Just cut off the dirty tip from the stem until it's too short to use!
I just got back into the hobby (and to watching your vids again)! Currently I am trying out different methods of panel lining, mostly through Gundam Marker Fine tip, Pour Style, and using a third party paint company's panel liner. Still working on how to use that though. It's great to be watching your tips and reviews again Zack! Here's to more vids and gunpla!
I definitely prefer using the tamiya accent liner, and I clean up with odorless mineral spirits, which are definitely not odorless like the label states. I would strongly consider giving this a try though, if it really is more gentle on painted kits. Cleaning up panel lines on a kit I've spent weeks painting is always the most nerve wracking part of the entire build.
yeah after hearing that this product is "odorless" that was the first thing that sprang into my head. i already use odorless mineral spirits. how does this compare to that? is it harsher on painted kits than regular odorless mineral spirit?
@lustreaux exactly. The mineral spirits are strong enough I have to completely empty the trash can and take the bag out after every panel lining session, or the left over on the swabs makes the entire room fumey. So a truly odorless option, that won't strip paint either? I'd be sold.
I mainly panelined with gundam marker because I don't paint my kits. But I use the gundam marker remover which works pretty well, but can't sometimes smear and dye the plastic. But it adds. some nice shading. It works mainly for me.
As mostly a straight builder I prefer to use the fine tip gundam Marker. I use Tamiya accent on kits that have shallow lines or whenever a greebly part just needs a big ol' wash of accent color to save me some time. I either use my finger, a tissue or DSPIAE's Panel Line Eraser sticks to clean my lines.
I use Tamiya ,I also use the gundam markers fine tip and pour type ,and i use the weathering color ,and yes i have used it as panel liner lol so it just depends on the build and how i want it to look in the end !for clean up i use Lighter fluid and enamel thinner for the Tamiya i use Alcohol for the gundam marker type and the mineral spirits that are the same brand as the mr weathering for that !
I use pour type markers for panel lining along with the eraser marker fluid on cotton swab cleaning sticks that are sold for gun cleaning. That solvent looks good though.
TPAC and clean up with lighter fluid for PC parts. Water-based acrylic paint thinned with distilled water and drop of dish soap, clean up with a bit of water or 70% IPA for ABS parts.
I use Tamiya's panel line accent and clean up with mineral spirits. This product actually sounds just like mineral spirits; they are orderless, I only ever use a little bit on a cotton bud, and you only have to wait until the panel liner fluid isn't shiny anymore before cleaning (usually 5 minutes or so).
I normally use Gundam Marker fine tip GM01 [200] black for most of my panel lining. It easy and I can wipe the mistake with my hand. Starting to use the panel line accent color since it quicker but I worry that it may weaken the plastic that a lot of forum said. I also try using the free flowing Gundam marker but I don't like how much liquid that come out and the clean up. Well, practice make perfect.
I prefer to Panel Line using Tamiya Panel Line Accent and just use Enamel Thinner/Lighter Fluid. I tend to instead of just wait half hour actually wait around 24+ hours to clean up. I think people assume that the 30min-1hour marker is enough to dry all of it, but often, under the surface it is not dry. Paint does the same thing where the surface might feel completely done - but it’s really not. I think this is a great product to use besides your normal Panel Line Cleanup process and not as a total replacement.
Nice vid, I like using pour type markers and the cleaning marker that comes with it along with cotton swabs when I'm panel lining. This will change when I start painting though
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I like to leave it for a few minutes under a fan, then clean it using thinner. But this product does seem great, specially the no smell part.
I've been using Mr Hobby's Solvent 110 in combination with Mr Weathering Color for the past 10 years, mostly for panel lining. I'm assuming this is exactly the same thing but just a different brand 🤔
Been trying something new lately - using oil paints for panel lining. This way I can experiment with my own shades and colours for the liner. Then clean them with mineral spirits so its generally safe on paints (but not on bare plastic 😬)
My preferred way to panel line is simple: I use the pour-type Gundam Markers (except for the black, where I use the fineliner type instead), and clean it up with 64% IPA via a soaked cotton tip... which might be a bit overkill for Solven
Just gundam markers for panel lining for me. Always been interested in Tamiya panel liner but it always looks so messy. Great video and looks to be a very nice set of products
Yeah I usually use a few different kinds of Gundam markers, and rubbing alcohol for cleanup. Right now I'm doing the real grade zeta challenge! So I'm fully detailing the kit on the runners before putting it together, I'm hoping it doesn't fall apart if I detail it before putting it together 😂
Good review. Typically, I like to use gunpla markers for lining, and cotton swabs with some diluted isopropyl alcohol as a solvent/ cleaning solution. If I’m being impatient or want to get through a build “quickly”, I’ll wipe off excess with my thumb. It can cause a bit of minor smudging but nothing a damp/ dry swab can’t fix, later on. Have yet to work on any painted kits, but that’s on the agenda for the new year 👍
I have never panel lined but plan to try it shortly. This product looks like I may give this a try. I am so new to this. Placed my first order today from you guys!
I really prefer markers when it comes to grey panel lines. My grey accent color will sometimes come out gritty and uneven, or that I need to apply multiple times to try and get it even. It's always a hassle to clean up and not much better than the marker. Black accent liner is MUCH better and even, that's my go-to. Same for brown, mostly because I find that you don't need a LOT of brown most of the time, so the brown markers apply way too much excess.
I recently ive been using oil paint mixed with mineral spirits. Its the safest method for the plastic, no odor and you can pick whatever color you like.
I've mainly always used the Tamiya panel liners and thinners with cheap cotton swabs to remove them. For me I usually panel line every part first then after it's all dried I put a mask on and remove the excess all in one go. Needless to say not having a smell with this solven would make my particular method much more tolerable lol.
I’ve been using lighter fluid for cleaning all the panel lines. For me that works and it’s not too aggressive. I do panel line directly into plastic because I only use top coat and I don’t paint my kits yet. I would like to try to panel line after the top coat to see how it looks tho
Tamiya Panel liner and lighter fluid has been a staple for awhile. I used to use enamel thinner but it would eat through my paint. Soon as I tried lighter fluid never looked back lol
I use the gundam pour type panel lining markers and clean up with either some of the gundam marker eraser fluid dabbed onto a microfiber cloth or 90% isopropyl alcohol. I wonder how this new product would work with the pour type markers!
Panel lining method is situational for me. Sometimes I use a pencil, other times some homemade wash and I’m no stranger to the gundam panel line marker.
I have been using panel line accent since the day I learn about panel lining alomg with the enamel thinner with cotton swab. But now that I am into customising gunpla I used it even more, it almost run out now.
it just sounds like odorless white mineral spirits. which isnt odorless but has a much milder odor than normal, id be curious to get a comparison of that with the solven
Is that just white spirits? Or odorless oil turpentine thinner that oil painters usually use? Cause it really seems so. Now it's all about price. If it's cheaper than brands like Daler Rowney, or Winsor & Newton, that would be great. *edit: It's not. Well....
It’s hydrotreated heavy naphtha. I can get 500ml of the same stuff for £6 retail. So, $10US for 50ml is pretty steep markup…as you would expect from Gunprimer.
well, I prefer mechanical pencil which of course can be simply erased with an ordinary eraser but I am a firm believer that a builder who doesn't try to learn new techniques to their own is just stagnating their skills so... 🙂
One thing to note most of the other solvents are oder free when they are initially produced but the oder is added in as a safety mechanism so one can tell when it's present due to the fumes of solvents being quite bad.
Right now I use Gundam POUR type markers with alcohol and hobby/makeup pointed cotton swabs. I go for really clean, fine lines mosty of the time so I need to use precision swabs. And since It's the primary customization I do on kits (alongside decals and detail painting), I tend to put the most time into it. On that note, I wish you would have tested the pour type markers. They're completely different than the usual pen type gundam markers. I will say I'd like to give those swabs a try in particular. They look good for getting the amount of detail I try to achieve with my panel lines.
I'd recommend DSPIAE Panel Line Eraser, it cleans better than cotton swap because it has soft flat surface and you can just use a scissor to trim the used parts out to use it more. You don't even need the stick, you can just buy the eraser head replacements and hold them with an alligator clam or a wood stick. Also the wait 5min vs 30min isn't related to the cleaning solutions, but rather how much panel line ink is applied to the area. If you use a ink pen instead of a brush and controls the amount of pour into the area, it dries fairly fast and you can clean with enamel thinner 2-3 min after pour.
Big fan of the pour type Gundam markers. They give great results and clean up is real easy either way a little bit of isopropyl alcohol and microfiber cloth.
Tamiya panel liner and Gundam pour type markers are great!! I haven't tried weathering yet, but lighter fuild is my weapon of choice. I do most of my building indoors, so I take precautions when my kiddos are around.
I usually used the pour type Gundam Markers panel liner available in grey and black and used a Tamiya bottle paint remover on a cotton tip to clean them up.
I use a calligraphy pen with an extra fine point nib, I think the nib is 0.25 mm wide, and cheap craft fluorescent paint diluted in water in a 1:1 ratio. Then I use an eraser to clean off any excess.
I stick to Zippo lighter fluid for consistency with cleaning up the Tamiya Accent Colors, but I'm excited to try this Solven stuff out, since it's odor free!
I haven't done any panel lining myself and I dont have a clean up method because of that! Though smell and potentially toxic odors keep me from really diving deep into that aspect of this hobby.
If I had to choose how I would approach panel lining it would be Acrylic Washing or oil paints! Ive seen a bunch of really nice ways of cleaning up that paint to solve my distaste for odors.
I also think it would be a nice test idea for a part 2 to use Oil Pants and/or Acrylic Washes (meme example is Noln Oil from GW)
I've used the old classic method of panel lining over a gloss coat then going back with a cotton bud and using a thinner to clean it up
For panel lining I generally use markers. But for cleaning them up, I use a white eraser. Not the quickest solution, but it works for me.
I also use markers and honestly you dont even need an eraser, my shirt works just fine for cleanup
I use a combination of the felt tip matker, the pour type markers, and the tamiya accent colors. I love the felt marker as theyre cheap and super easy to use as i mainly topcoat my straight builds.
On the other note, i havent seen anyone mention this but but the stem of the cotton swabs we use are usually paper! When im done with the cotton swab, i use a durable nipper to cut the ends off and i use the stem as a detail panel liner cleaner. I use the eraser style gundam marker with the combination of using a few cotton swabs and then using the stem to clean up my panel lines.
TLDR: Harvest the paper stem of all your cotton swabs and use them by dabing a small amount of solvant of your choosing and go to town! Just cut off the dirty tip from the stem until it's too short to use!
I just got back into the hobby (and to watching your vids again)! Currently I am trying out different methods of panel lining, mostly through Gundam Marker Fine tip, Pour Style, and using a third party paint company's panel liner. Still working on how to use that though. It's great to be watching your tips and reviews again Zack! Here's to more vids and gunpla!
I definitely prefer using the tamiya accent liner, and I clean up with odorless mineral spirits, which are definitely not odorless like the label states. I would strongly consider giving this a try though, if it really is more gentle on painted kits. Cleaning up panel lines on a kit I've spent weeks painting is always the most nerve wracking part of the entire build.
yeah after hearing that this product is "odorless" that was the first thing that sprang into my head. i already use odorless mineral spirits. how does this compare to that? is it harsher on painted kits than regular odorless mineral spirit?
@lustreaux exactly. The mineral spirits are strong enough I have to completely empty the trash can and take the bag out after every panel lining session, or the left over on the swabs makes the entire room fumey. So a truly odorless option, that won't strip paint either? I'd be sold.
Tamiya panel liner and I too use light fluid. Another great video, thank you Zack
I mainly panelined with gundam marker because I don't paint my kits. But I use the gundam marker remover which works pretty well, but can't sometimes smear and dye the plastic. But it adds. some nice shading. It works mainly for me.
As mostly a straight builder I prefer to use the fine tip gundam Marker. I use Tamiya accent on kits that have shallow lines or whenever a greebly part just needs a big ol' wash of accent color to save me some time. I either use my finger, a tissue or DSPIAE's Panel Line Eraser sticks to clean my lines.
I use Tamiya ,I also use the gundam markers fine tip and pour type ,and i use the weathering color ,and yes i have used it as panel liner lol so it just depends on the build and how i want it to look in the end !for clean up i use Lighter fluid and enamel thinner for the Tamiya i use Alcohol for the gundam marker type and the mineral spirits that are the same brand as the mr weathering for that !
🔎🔫 The odor-free claim holds up, great for panel lining! 👌👍
I use pour type markers for panel lining along with the eraser marker fluid on cotton swab cleaning sticks that are sold for gun cleaning. That solvent looks good though.
TPAC and clean up with lighter fluid for PC parts.
Water-based acrylic paint thinned with distilled water and drop of dish soap, clean up with a bit of water or 70% IPA for ABS parts.
I use Tamiya's panel line accent and clean up with mineral spirits. This product actually sounds just like mineral spirits; they are orderless, I only ever use a little bit on a cotton bud, and you only have to wait until the panel liner fluid isn't shiny anymore before cleaning (usually 5 minutes or so).
Im using oil wash with a fine brush tip. Really easy to clean up and flow really well and can be used on painted kit.
Thanks for the review Zach
I normally use Gundam Marker fine tip GM01 [200] black for most of my panel lining. It easy and I can wipe the mistake with my hand. Starting to use the panel line accent color since it quicker but I worry that it may weaken the plastic that a lot of forum said. I also try using the free flowing Gundam marker but I don't like how much liquid that come out and the clean up. Well, practice make perfect.
I prefer to Panel Line using Tamiya Panel Line Accent and just use Enamel Thinner/Lighter Fluid. I tend to instead of just wait half hour actually wait around 24+ hours to clean up. I think people assume that the 30min-1hour marker is enough to dry all of it, but often, under the surface it is not dry. Paint does the same thing where the surface might feel completely done - but it’s really not. I think this is a great product to use besides your normal Panel Line Cleanup process and not as a total replacement.
Nice vid, I like using pour type markers and the cleaning marker that comes with it along with cotton swabs when I'm panel lining. This will change when I start painting though
I like to leave it for a few minutes under a fan, then clean it using thinner. But this product does seem great, specially the no smell part.
I've been using Mr Hobby's Solvent 110 in combination with Mr Weathering Color for the past 10 years, mostly for panel lining. I'm assuming this is exactly the same thing but just a different brand 🤔
Been trying something new lately - using oil paints for panel lining. This way I can experiment with my own shades and colours for the liner. Then clean them with mineral spirits so its generally safe on paints (but not on bare plastic 😬)
Like most others, I use the tamiya panel line, zippo lighter fluid, and a tightly wound cotton swab.
My preferred way to panel line is simple: I use the pour-type Gundam Markers (except for the black, where I use the fineliner type instead), and clean it up with 64% IPA via a soaked cotton tip... which might be a bit overkill for Solven
For panel lining it depends, if just ootb pen but for painted kits definitely panel liners like tamiya.
I use both Tamiya panel liner and markers. For cleanup, I usually use Tamiya X-20 or 70%+ rubbing alcohol.
Just gundam markers for panel lining for me. Always been interested in Tamiya panel liner but it always looks so messy. Great video and looks to be a very nice set of products
Yeah I usually use a few different kinds of Gundam markers, and rubbing alcohol for cleanup. Right now I'm doing the real grade zeta challenge! So I'm fully detailing the kit on the runners before putting it together, I'm hoping it doesn't fall apart if I detail it before putting it together 😂
Good review. Typically, I like to use gunpla markers for lining, and cotton swabs with some diluted isopropyl alcohol as a solvent/ cleaning solution. If I’m being impatient or want to get through a build “quickly”, I’ll wipe off excess with my thumb. It can cause a bit of minor smudging but nothing a damp/ dry swab can’t fix, later on. Have yet to work on any painted kits, but that’s on the agenda for the new year 👍
Zippo or Ronsonal are my go to for cleaning up Tamiya accent color.
I use Gundam marker and mechanical pencil. Cotton bud and testers paint remover for clean up.
I have never panel lined but plan to try it shortly. This product looks like I may give this a try. I am so new to this. Placed my first order today from you guys!
I really prefer markers when it comes to grey panel lines. My grey accent color will sometimes come out gritty and uneven, or that I need to apply multiple times to try and get it even. It's always a hassle to clean up and not much better than the marker.
Black accent liner is MUCH better and even, that's my go-to. Same for brown, mostly because I find that you don't need a LOT of brown most of the time, so the brown markers apply way too much excess.
I use the fine point gundam marker and tamiya accent panel liner and lighter fluid for clean up
Usually I just use Tamiya's panel liner alongside some lighter fluid. its cheap and readily available for me.
I recently ive been using oil paint mixed with mineral spirits. Its the safest method for the plastic, no odor and you can pick whatever color you like.
what ratio of paint to mineral spirits do you use? and how do you clean it up?
I've mainly always used the Tamiya panel liners and thinners with cheap cotton swabs to remove them. For me I usually panel line every part first then after it's all dried I put a mask on and remove the excess all in one go. Needless to say not having a smell with this solven would make my particular method much more tolerable lol.
I’ve been using lighter fluid for cleaning all the panel lines. For me that works and it’s not too aggressive. I do panel line directly into plastic because I only use top coat and I don’t paint my kits yet. I would like to try to panel line after the top coat to see how it looks tho
Tamiya Panel liner and lighter fluid has been a staple for awhile. I used to use enamel thinner but it would eat through my paint. Soon as I tried lighter fluid never looked back lol
I’ve tried a few different things but keep going back to good ol tamiya accent color and thinner. I do use a pointed cotton swap most of the time.
I usually build models during my night shifts (keeps me awake). For time and logistics I use Gundam markers.
Glad I'm not the only one haha
I use the gundam pour type panel lining markers and clean up with either some of the gundam marker eraser fluid dabbed onto a microfiber cloth or 90% isopropyl alcohol. I wonder how this new product would work with the pour type markers!
I usually just use Tamiya panel line accent and clean it up with Enamel thinner. I'm usually not bothered by the smell, though.
Panel lining method is situational for me. Sometimes I use a pencil, other times some homemade wash and I’m no stranger to the gundam panel line marker.
interesting that theres no smell
Thanks for the video. Got me a little curious now
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👍👍👍👍 lighter fluid is the go to. Thanks for the vid dude
I have been using panel line accent since the day I learn about panel lining alomg with the enamel thinner with cotton swab. But now that I am into customising gunpla I used it even more, it almost run out now.
Should it work fine with acrylic topcoat? I've hade solvent eat through it before.
it just sounds like odorless white mineral spirits. which isnt odorless but has a much milder odor than normal, id be curious to get a comparison of that with the solven
Is that just white spirits? Or odorless oil turpentine thinner that oil painters usually use? Cause it really seems so.
Now it's all about price. If it's cheaper than brands like Daler Rowney, or Winsor & Newton, that would be great. *edit: It's not. Well....
It’s hydrotreated heavy naphtha. I can get 500ml of the same stuff for £6 retail. So, $10US for 50ml is pretty steep markup…as you would expect from Gunprimer.
well, I prefer mechanical pencil which of course can be simply erased with an ordinary eraser but I am a firm believer that a builder who doesn't try to learn new techniques to their own is just stagnating their skills so... 🙂
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I think that stuff might be extremely flammable, so watch out!
6:18 my dumbass tryna smell through the screen
panel lining i use Tamiya and i use 91% ipa. Ipa don't work great but with elbow grease it will get it clean.
So it's just odourless mineral/enamel thinner and all the other claims are standard marketing. Nothing new here
I mean....sure...lol