Ryan Holiday On How To Overcome Fear | Rich Roll Podcast
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Modern philosopher & NYT bestselling author Ryan Holiday joins Rich to talk about why pursuing virtues like courage is key to healing our national divide. To read more about Ryan and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll636
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:05 - Rich and Ryan Catch Up Since Last Time // Stoic Perspective on the Pandemic
00:10:17 - The Discipline of Assent
00:14:51 - Ryan's New Bookstore, "Painted Porch"
00:22:03 - Writing a Book during the Pandemic
00:27:07 - Getting Quality Parenting Time
00:30:41 - The Plantpower Meal Planner
00:32:15 - Individualism & Social Responsibility
00:38:37 - Circles of Concern
00:40:00 - Responsibility to Make an Impact from a Platform of Influence
00:44:31 - Having Courage of Your Convictions
00:48:45 - Courage as a Habit - Ryan's Approach to Writing
00:52:28 - Ryan’s latest book: ‘Courage Is Calling: Fortune Favors the Brave’
00:56:02 - Courage Being a Primal Virtue
00:59:11 - The 4 Cardinal Virtues - The Easy Way or The Hard Way
01:02:20 - What Did Learn of Courage While Writing His Book?
01:04:31 - Courage as a Practice
01:05:50 - What is Courage and Its Relationship to Fear?
01:09:33 - General Douglas MacArthur - A Bold Decision to Defy the Odds
01:12:53 - Not All Courage is Noble
01:17:11 - Justice and Wisdom Act Upon Courage
01:22:19 - One Courageous Person Makes the Majority
01:27:30 - Fear and How We Often Under Sell Ourselves
01:33:33 - Heroism - Selflessness in Courage
01:35:10 - Letting Fear of Risk Inhibit Courage
01:38:05 - Current Examples of Courage
01:41:43 - Ryan's Core Takeaways
01:46:06 - The Call to Action
01:46:55 - How Should We Celebrate Our Heroes
01:50:00 - The Problem with Confederate Monuments
01:53:12 - What Would a Monument to Courage Look Like?
01:56:50 - Ryan Is A Man Out Of Time
02:01:04 - Closing Remarks
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"...the whole point of a system that allows for a lot of personal liberty (is that it) was intended to be checked by private virtue" = WOW and AMEN RYAN HOLIDAY!
"When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love" - Marcus Aurelius
Love how this content is freely given. Thank you Ryan for bringing so much ancient wisdom to the modern world.
While practicing gratefulness is beneficial, don't forget who Marcus Aurelius was. It was highly beneficial to him as a ruler to have his subjects happy and content with their daily lives as that would make them less likely to try and oust him out of power.
@@RunawayYe there would be far easier (and more brutal) ways for him to maintain power.
I love an interviewer who allows his guest to talk👍🏽 thank you both🌹
“You could leave life right now. Let that determine what you do and say and think.” -Marcus Aurelius
*”You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.” - Marcus Aurelius*
You do have power over some external events though. They are just subject to the uncontrollable.
The power is outside of yourself. It's God.
@@kate60 the power is within yourself, it’s free will, a vibrant mind and an open heart.
@@peripheralparadox4218 There is no free will. You will die without your choice of how and when. Most if life happens apart from your will. Honestly, very little is in your control as you do not know what will happen moment by moment.
@@kate60 I never suggested we have complete control. We have partial control, and the power we do have is tremendous.
This podcast reminds me of many other individuals who have talked about courage, and how acknowledging fears existence is important because that allows for an opportunity to be courageous : "I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear." - Nelson Mandela
"I was operating through a fog.." dang felt that. I swear Rich your show is life changing!
That line from Dumb and Dumber is one of my all-time favorites. ‘so you’re telling me there’s a chance’ 💕 A fantastic, enlightening 2 hours. Thank you!
So glad you brought Ryan on again for a discussion. I always enjoy being an observer to your great conversations
Great video. Ryan Holiday is awesome guest. both sides such great thoughts and dialogue. love when Ryan Holiday demonstrates courage literally when he corrects "Courage" as not "Masculine" down to even strong and the root of the word. makes a difference.like a huge one - way to. be it , don't say it honest conversation.
Love Ryan Holliday. ❤ let's see what he has to say. Been thinking that what I need, just for everyday life is...courage. I've been wondering, well, how do I do that? Meditate on courage? Idk. Hopefully I'm on the right track here, this just popped up in my YT feed....so a bit of serendipity there 💛
I’m commenting before reading other commenters. When Ryan suggested a monument/statue to represent Responsibility, the image that came to my mind is a male and female human holding a sphere representing the Earth, but not like Atlas did holding Earth over his shoulders, but embracing Earth.
Was kind of just listening along not really feeling to strongly either way until the guest seemed to blame the the death of a cancer patient as being due to someone being "irresponsible" with their ''freedom," and saying so now "where is that person's freedom?" That did not resonate with me at all. Freedom as perceived from the classical American point of view is pretty well defined and the guest's statement IMO is redefining freedom as something else... Just my 2 cents
Additionally, he referenced Texas law maker's action on mandates or lack of mandates as "passing the buck," and like wait um that is not passing the buck that is exactly what freedom and individual liberty is all about. Personal choice as opposed to government mandate!
I think he was saying that one person's freedom of choice caused an infection in someone else which resulted in their death. The dead person no longer has freedom of choice because they are dead. That's the way I took it.
I've struggled with freedom of choice around covid. If you choose not to wear sunscreen, smoke, or wear a helmet on a motorcycle, the risk is mainly on you. The American view of freedom fits well with those things.
But if you choose to take risks with something that is contagious, the risk isn't only on you. If you happen to be infected, the risk is shared by others you come in contact with. You could greatly impact someone's life, which can take away their freedom to live their life the way they wanted or planned.
Agreed on this OP. Blaming the unvaccinated for the man's death is totally nonsensical. VACCINATED PEOPLE CAN CARRY AND TRANSMIT THE VIRUS. Blooming heck how many times people 🤔
@@jasonmarietta2101 I have to disagree here with you Jason. First see reply from Conor Wright and secondly you mentioned smoking and wearing a helmet on a motorcycle. Well, what about the risks of passive smoking for others and even just driving a motorcycle or car, very dangerous for others. As far as I know more people die yearly from traffic accidents than from covid-19. Just a thought 🤔
100% agree. Ryan speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He preaches stoicism with is majority about self-awareness, self-discipline, and individuality, but cannot help his liberal prejudices permeate although those same prejudices are antithetical to the very message he espouses.
Courage definitely needs practice, I was cornered by a spider while listening to this, and my courage was non-existent. I screamed for mercy from this 4cm arachnid. And I'm still recovering.
Both these guys I've changed my life in so many ways. Thank you Rich and Ryan.
Wow, I finished watching "why stillness is essential" yesterday and now I wake up to this, nice.
So generous of you 'know it alls' to allow other people to have a different point of view … whewww … so generous.
Sometimes waiting for the right moment to act is the most courageous decision.
Great podcast. The topics covered were really fascinating. Ancient wisdom at its best. I am great fan of both of you. Haven't seen courage break down in such way.
Glad you brought Ryan, keep up the great influential work Rich
I feel like I should be sporting a pipe and listening to this in “my study”. 🕵️♀️
Such a depth of information. What a wonderful discussion. Thank you for letting us be part of it. A remarkable experience!
Well said... With a monocle and robe
@@SanjiChill Omg yes! I forgot the monocle.
I’m terrible at being stereotypically intelligent 😩
But hitting that blonde stereotype, on point 🤌
Watched this not know what to expect, but I’m glad that I did. Appreciate this conversation and the wealth of knowledge & insight you both shared!
That was an awesome discussion. Thank you both. Must go and get Ryan’s book.
Two of my most favorite people in the pod.
This topic is so important, and such a touchy subject.
I really enjoyed this conversation.
I took the time of the pandemic to better myself. Finished a B.A., time to study german, hit the gym, work on my house, and learned to control anxiety. I think that's the new normal, disregard what made me sick and work on what's important. I don't mean the loosers in D.C. definition of "new normal", but the independent pursuit of happiness.
Great section on "courage" in service of basically evil ends - can't tell you how many times during the last administration I'd become so frustrated with language used around Donald Trump that for better or worse would have these specific, noble connotations, because they were basically *attributes* detached from any integrity. Namely, "loyalty" was in freaking non-stop parlance. Made me feel nuts.
Also, my husband and I opened a new bookshop on a shoestring in the UK 2004, lost it in 2006, suffered pretty serious financial and psychic damage for a lot of years, but I'd never change that experience. It's one of the "failure" stepping stones that's given me more wisdom to do the next big leap, that I'm on the precipice of now. And so much good came out of that "traumatic failure", and also, bookshops rule. Next time we're visiting my pops and steps in ATX, we'll have to come find his and pick up some stuff.
Yes. I need this
Loved this podcast so much. You two are amazing!!
Excellent conversation!
Yesterday listened fully Joanne vegan stories. Wonderful
it's going to be awesome !!
Rich roll you are the man bro 👍🙏✌️
I'm halfway through Ryan's book and love that each chapter is short so that when you need that immediate shot in the arm, the book delivers. I'm so happy to hear two adults having a conversation about the connection and balance between rights/freedoms and responsibilities! It gives me hope for the future of humanity. So many people who have focused solely on their right to not be vaccinated are actually arguing that they have the right to infect others, but they haven't thought it through that far because they are so caught up in their ego and emotions. I've been waiting for the lawsuits to be files against individuals who put others' at risk just because they don't believe the science. It's exhausting being an adult these days. Much love!
Wake up to yourself
How do you feel now, now that you see the studies and truths? Now that those whom chose to not be vaccinated are the least affected by Covid? That the more boosters you’ve taken the more likely you will get Covid? How about how Fauci lied? How about witnessing how pharmaceutical companies are only out for profit? Etc etc.
Great discussion, timely topic. I always appreciate the earnest realness Rich brings to the podcast
Great intro... In fact, this is the best intro to anything I have seen...
So happy to listen in on this. Have 2 small kids myself, and after complete lockdown for almost two months, it was kind of like 'do we REALLY have to go out and do something now instead of just enjoying the simple family moments and daily life?????' - that being said, the months before lockdown we felt like we always had to spend time outside of the house and garden to entertain and keep the kids occupied.
"The thing that looks like the conservative choice choice turns out to be the biggest risk" -> merci beaucoup!
Great interview.
Love everything Ryan Holiday and everything Rich Roll! These two together again for the 4th time is amazing!
This conversation starts to get laughably ironic at around 1:19:00
I’ve read Ryan’s new book and it’s absolutely amazing!
Dude how do you comment on every video I’ve ever clicked on lol
I couldn't make it through this entire interview. Yes, there were some gems. The part about parenting I liked. But as is the case with most of Holliday's recent interviews, I felt compelled to give him his own advice, "ego is the enemy." I'm of the opinion that he is full of himself, holier than now, that - to me - it detracts from his content. I've tried, but I just can't get on board with this guy when I hear him talk.
"I shall never be ashamed of citing a bad author if the line is good." - Seneca
He might be many things, but does it really matter if what he says has a point
what pink bracelet it is that rich is using? It is an watch?
Blame for troop withdrawal goes to who put them there. The US does a poor job of thinking how to get out when it’s time to think of going in to hostile lands.
I’m struggling right now, I started an electrical apprenticeship almost 4 years ago and I’ve got one more exam until I’m qualified. But the job sucks, it doesn’t suit me. I don’t know if I have the courage to quit, I’ve always wanted to work in a design job…
Keep the job until you have a business up and running on the side. Makes more sense to save up and risk losing all of your source of income all at once. Take savings and build your business is the best escape route.
You also have to do what's smart. Quitting now, right before the end when you've come this far isn't smart. For starters having that on your resumé is a huge benefit and may open doors. Also like Drew said, you might as well do it for a while and build something else up on the side, or do a design course while you work. Having a trade to fall back on is valuable.
@@Lieutenant-Dan I’ve passed them all and got my license!
@@erichopham niiiice, well done!
Rich you've done a lot for the vegan movement and I have listened to many of your podcasts. As a fellow vegan I wanted to push back on this idea that it is somehow beautiful to own and enslave cows or any animals and treat them as property. They aren't 'cattle' or 'livestock', they are sentient beings who will be sent to be murdered. I was pretty stunned that you described enslaving and murdering animals that way. I have read many of Ryans books and found a lot of value in them. That aspect of his lifestyle and that lifestyle in general however, is antiquated, immoral and is destroying the planet. If I'm missing something let me know.
What you're missing is subtlety. People change their habits not by being attacked and shamed into doing so, but by presenting them with cheap and readily available alternatives. Over the past few years my diet has slowly changed to presently be about 60% from vegan sources, and it was not something I was aiming for deliberately but instead vegan options have become more available, tastier, more affordable. Remember that there is no such thing as objective morality and preaching that will rightfully earn you ridicule. I mean, one of the proofs of that is vegans who own pets and not feel cognitive dissonance about it.
Wow, that's a lot of words.
Too bad I ain't readin 'em.
Leaving Afghanistan is very popular.
37:46 but they also could've caught it from somebody who was vaccinated. Blaming an unvaccinated person for the death of a vacc. person is dumbfounded Ryan. Love your books but your views on the vaccine debate are largely one-sided. I say this as somebody "in the centre" who can see both sides of the argument by the way.
Good catch.
Responsibility human holding infant lovingly
Pandemic as the ultimate control variable. :)
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I may not ever get an opportunity for this message to reach Ryan but here goes nothing.
Please, Mr. Holiday, allow a professional narrator to read your books into Audible. Please!
I purchased Stillness Is the Key, which is a great book in itself, but I just managed to struggle through listening to it. I really want to listen to The Obstacle Is the Way but like the other one, narrated by yourself and therefore I will not listen to it, I just can't. Also, the reviews on the books. Dude, Ryan, please read the reviews as there is a resounding message going through them. If there's a negative word in the reviews it's always about your reading of the book. Sorry to say but you should not read your own book even though you want the message to come accross somewhat better or whatever the reason is. Please set aside your pride and listen to the listeners. I want to listen to this book but I know I won't be able to with yourself reading it.
Well done.
I listen to books all the time. The worst narrators are often the authors. It takes at least a bit of acting skill to read a book well. I tried to listen to the book "How Not To Be a Racist" (I'm not, but wanted to hear his views on it) and I couldn't get past 10 mins. the author's narration was so awful.
Solid and interesting pod, but man, Ryan is jumping at the bit to share his two cents the millisecond Rich is done talking. Makes for a stressful listening experience. Rich is the kind of guy who likes to really consider his word choice and speak more slowly if needed to achieve that. He feels rushed here because he knows Ryan is ready to pounce 🤣.
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1:42:00
Deluded
Great chat, but it does take a lot of stoicism to ignore the number of times Ryan says "like"
Speaking of courage. Rich, I would love to hear you have a conversation with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. about his new book, The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health.
That will not happen. IMAO.
Rich avoids controversy and divisive subjects.
@ about 32 min - "we've kind of lost our teather..." Actually, it's more a subset of loud and spoiled people who don't know how good they have it. "We" is letting certain people off the hook and implicating most of us who know the score.
How many times can a writer, with what should be an enormous vocabulary, use the word 'like' in one sentence?
writing and speaking are 2 different skill sets.
This distinction is emphasized in certain places like the UK: lawyers are qualified to "write" pleadings for the court, but it requires a different license to "speak" before the court.
I KNOW! It's like soooo annoying! :) Seriously though, it sounds so adolescent and uneducated: the last things you want to be when espousing your opinions to sell your books.
Proud of myself for listening all the way through. You know what’s courageous? Not Biden leaving thousands of Americans and allies in Afghanistan so that he could be praised for ending our occupation there. Courage is what the men and women who are still over there trying to help evacuate our brothers and sisters are showing.
I wish this intelligent man would stop saying 'like' as if he were a 15 year old girl. like.. like lliek .....ahhhhhhhhhhhh
It would be more appropriate for him to say "for instance" instead of ""like." Because saying "like" will leave watchers with an unprofessional impression, just my perspective.
Avoid cupidity, and you conquer a kingdom
I'm the first 💙💯
Love the podcasts, but you’ve GOT to get another table that’s not so ginormous…. Sheesh, don’t be so distant…. It would make for a warmer, more inviting atmosphere.
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Mostly really enjoyed this conversation - it was interesting and thought-provoking. Always appreciate your sensibility around nuance, Rich. Two things disturbed me - perhaps small things to others -(I almost never comment in any public way, so, for me, this is a courageous act): 1) I was surprised and disturbed to hear you, Rich, refer to the animals Ryan 'owns' as "cattle" and "livestock". This really struck me coming from you. I understand there are lots of different opinions around animals as food, but it felt cowardly to me that you so casually used these terms in the description of Ryan's home property. 2) The presumptions and assumptions existing in the statements around the v*rus and v*ccine and "liberty", etc. in Ryan's discussion (at several different times in the interview) were glaring; where is the nuance here? I sense the propaganda machine has been successful with you, too. :-(
Yeah, did feel weird to see Rich talking so casually about cattle and livestock. Yes Rich being vegan doesn't mean he will only have vegan guests. But at that point at least he could have inserted the fact that he himself is a vegan.
What would you call the cows then?
the interview lost me when he skirted around taking responsibility to get vaccinated to protect others....so once again ,it gets political...adding to the very problem we find ourselves in...DIVISION
Ryan “the vaccine pusher” Holiday talking about courage. Go wonder.
@1:22…it’s always like that on this show. Every guest has the same political opinion and they express it indirectly but so they must. And RR loses lots of audience because he is sanctimonious and lofty about his political opinions, always fitting it in, pocketing it through, come hel or high water, every single episode.
Hggg
Ryan overuses the word 'like". It seems every sentence!
Very irritating.
He says there is no higher power!? When you look at the universe and can say that, you are indeed distracted and in denial. This man has made himself a god and is using philosophy, the science before science, to disprove what only philosophy can prove and in fact has unequivocally proved, that there is, in your face dude, a Higher Power, and we call that person God. I suggestion do some more “quiet time” and maybe your enlightened brain will realize that.
Your comment is acceptable as long as you don’t personalize this “higher power”. The second people start naming or titling things everything goes wrong. Then we start imagining the expectations of such a being.
Why do I have reservations that you can keep it at higher power without adding human flavor?
You can't be in denial when you don't have facts and no knowledge about everything or as you say the universe. So since humans doesn't know enough about universe doesn't mean there is a "higher power" so it's up to each of own if there is a "higher power" or not
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Blah, blah. blah 24 mins in and nothing said. When does the Courage stuff start?
No philosophers, I'd recommend. Certainly, I don't understand what real courage is. They consistently return to selling fear-porn. Tragic. Amd this host calls this guy the greatest living American "philosopher"? Privileged and immature. Neither understand the real root of things. Talking heads who think they are great. Very very bizarre hearing these guys 😢
again this weakling