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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2023
  • In this video, I'm going to show you three common mistakes that students make when integrating functions in calc 2. These errors can cause problems when trying to solve calculus problems, so it's important to be aware of them and avoid them! Integration can be tricky and I want to ensure you don't miss these on your next exam!
    Calculus is a complex subject, and mistakes can easily lead to confusion and frustration. In this video, I'll show you how to avoid the most common integration mistakes and get the most out of your calculus studies!
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  • @nathanluca3072
    @nathanluca3072 6 місяців тому +12

    I learned to put the absolute symbols, but I never learned why. Thank you for the explanation.

  • @misterme-sports5193
    @misterme-sports5193 6 місяців тому +94

    bro forgor +c

    • @misterme-sports5193
      @misterme-sports5193 6 місяців тому +6

      i did, y
      but you asked, so i responded

    • @shadowiz6506
      @shadowiz6506 6 місяців тому +4

      Bro asked if you knew the fault drop a comment then insulted you for doing it 😂

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  6 місяців тому +1

      @@misterme-sports5193 my apologies! When you started the response with bro, I thought you were trolling, hahahah! But yeah, nice job finding the error. Sorry about that

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  6 місяців тому +1

      @@shadowiz6506 totally my bad. When I saw the "bro" in the response, I assumed he was trolling and not answering a question. My mistake

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 6 місяців тому

      @ the original poster -- The host of this site is not your "bro."

  • @KrzysiekWawrytko
    @KrzysiekWawrytko 6 місяців тому +4

    In fact, the shear symbol "Integral(1/x, dx)" is not well defined if you take seriously a definition of the indefinite integral. One essential factor is missed in most materials/books when dealing with it. Namely, to have a nice theory you start with a function f:D -> R which must be defined on a connected set D, which in the case of reals means an interval. Then, the proposition which claims that any two antiderivatives are equal up to some constant C is true. So in this perspective when we write Integral(1/x, dx) in fact it is a shorthand for two integrals: Int(f1(x), dx) with f1:{x >0}->R, where f1(x)=1/x or Int(f2(x), dx) wher f2(x)=1/x. Remember 1/x as R\{0}->R is not defined on a connected set, thus we take as a domain either {x > 0} or {x < 0}.

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  6 місяців тому +1

      Well done. Yeah, we can think of it as an adjoined piecewise function

  • @adw1z
    @adw1z 5 днів тому

    1) is because for x < 0, d/dx(ln(-x)) = -1/-x = 1/x. Obviously d/dx ln(x) = 1/x for x > 0 too. Combining the two gives:
    d/dx ln|x| = 1/x (for x real and non-zero). Hence integrating 1/x gives ln|x|, this is important especially if the domain of x is not restricted to the positive reals only, but also includes negative numbers

  • @rv706
    @rv706 2 місяці тому +2

    Actually, the indefinite integral of 1/x is:
    log|x| + C(x)
    where the log is natural and C is a locally constant function (hence C(x)= a constant for x0).

  • @user-ll3ke1hy5p
    @user-ll3ke1hy5p 6 місяців тому +3

    Great explanation

  • @ThePeterDislikeShow
    @ThePeterDislikeShow 3 місяці тому

    4:43 that kind of mistake can happen with derivatives too.

  • @ThePeterDislikeShow
    @ThePeterDislikeShow 3 місяці тому

    technically hte two pieces of ln|X| can also have different constants. So it's really f(x) = ln(x) + c if x > 0 and ln(-x) + d if x < 0.

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  3 місяці тому

      Yes, absolute value function can be represented by a piecewise function

    • @boston4635
      @boston4635 Місяць тому +1

      @@NumberNinjaDave I think that you're missing the main part of their comment. The absolute value doesn't change the value of the constant. For example, f(x) = ln(x) + 6 if x > 0 and ln(-x) + 3 are is also an antiderivative for 1/x, even when the constants are different.

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  Місяць тому

      @@boston4635 you are correct though you can indeed use a piecewise function to help represent this visually. And the anti derivative is a family of functions so any constant is just a member in the family of solutions

  • @Munchkin57
    @Munchkin57 6 місяців тому +2

    forgot +c
    update: WOOOOOOOO 🤪🔥💯💪

  • @trucid2
    @trucid2 6 місяців тому +3

    ln |x| has a different meaning than ln x with x being restricted to x > 0. One accepts all x except 0, and turns negative x into positive, the other is not valid for x

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  6 місяців тому +2

      That’s correct, although it’s good to understand why the integral gives the absolute value, which is the point of the video. If we blindly just memorize the integration, we will miss out on the domain concept

    • @carultch
      @carultch 6 місяців тому

      @@NumberNinjaDave If you use complex log instead of just the real numbered natural log, you have a function to use that doesn't require the extra absolute value signs. Complex log(z) = ln(|z|) + i*(angle(z) + 2*pi*k). Letting k=0, and using C - pi*i as the constant of integration, we can connect this to the standard form used in Calc 1.

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  6 місяців тому

      @@carultch sure, though in this video, I'm only focused on R as the domain

  • @notdeus3834
    @notdeus3834 4 місяці тому +1

    2:55 ->
    + cockroach?

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  4 місяці тому +1

      Lizard actually 🦎

    • @notdeus3834
      @notdeus3834 4 місяці тому

      @@NumberNinjaDave 😂😂😂😂

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  4 місяці тому

      @@notdeus3834 I think lizard math would be tricky. When the lizard sheds its tail, it's now a piecewise function

  • @luckybearthing1796
    @luckybearthing1796 6 місяців тому +1

    👍

  • @user-ky5dy5hl4d
    @user-ky5dy5hl4d Місяць тому

    OK. But instead of adding the constant can we subtract a constant?

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  Місяць тому

      Lol

    • @user-ky5dy5hl4d
      @user-ky5dy5hl4d Місяць тому

      @@NumberNinjaDave I hope you can laugh more, here:
      Place an infinite amount of points on a circumference of a circle. Then pick any point of your choice on the circumference. Add one to that point or subtract one from that point. How far have you moved on the circumference in radians?

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  Місяць тому

      @@user-ky5dy5hl4d sounds like you already know the answer 😊

    • @user-ky5dy5hl4d
      @user-ky5dy5hl4d Місяць тому

      @@NumberNinjaDave I love physics. But unfortunately one cannot do anything on physics without mathematics. But I am not a mathematician by any means. I just dabble in math. My answer is such that if you add one on that circumeference you will not move at all because infinity is not a number. But one more question (from physics). What causes the speed of light?

    • @user-ky5dy5hl4d
      @user-ky5dy5hl4d Місяць тому

      @@NumberNinjaDave Sir! I thank you for your input. I am learning from you. I had had heavy calculus years ago. But now people like you retreive my mind about math. I believe that you are an ingredient to have an element about time which can be expressed in math. You are great!

  • @mnish3627
    @mnish3627 Місяць тому

    Who put tĥat poor bird over there ?

  • @gregstunts347
    @gregstunts347 13 днів тому

    A common mistake even among mathematicians, is not realising the constant can change beyond discontinuities.
    For example, the proper antiderivative of 1/x is ln(x) + c1 when x>0, and ln(-x) + c2 when x

    • @gregstunts347
      @gregstunts347 13 днів тому

      Another way of thinking about it, is that the “c” is just a function that has a derivative of 0 along all the places where f(x) is defined. But it can still suddenly change values where f(x) and F(x) is undefined.

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  12 днів тому

      That’s a piecewise definition that is essentially how the domain of the absolute value in ln | x| + C is defined

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  12 днів тому

      Very true!