Abuse and Trauma - Causes of Dissociative Disorders
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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I knew I diassociated when I was little to escape the abuse I was enduring, but as I got older I labeled it as "daydreaming" or "spacing out." It wasn't until a few years ago that I understood what it meant to "lose time" that I realized that it wasn't day dreaming or spacing out, but disassociating!
I disassociate to leave reality and enter into a world in my life that I "wish" I were at and things I want to do, places I want to be or go and people I want to be with, sexually. I know the things I disassociate about will never happen to me so I dream about it to the point of where I am "literall" out of my body and some where else with someone else. When I come "out of it" I look at the clock and realize I have been out of it for a significant amount of time (atleast an hour or more). Sometimes I am so deep into my disassociation that when I come out of it I have to look around to see where I am at and remember that I was there.
I have to say that at times I feel it is like an addiction when there is someone I want to be with and I know I'll "never" be with them that I take myself somewhere with them and dream of what it would be like. I can actually feel them nest to me as if they are really there with me. Sick, huh?
I was sexually abused as a child by my step-father from age 5-9 and then when I was 12 by a much older cousin. I am now about to be 58 next month 12-9-20. I do not see any end to this way of dealing with reality ever at all in my life.
Its ok. You don't have to be perfect. Its ok to be human. 💖
Same here …
I have a question, what about a continuous blackout? I was abused when I was a child and from then on I can't remember my childhood which is to be expected but now Im also forgetting memories I've made three years ago and sometimes it gets worst. I forgotten major changes in my life, I don't remember my middle school experience or a trip I've made to Europe when I barely entered high school and even now its becoming harder to remember my high school experience. Its like a giant white wall that keeps growing, and Im afraid I'll just lose everything important. What is this an indication of?
Melina Sanchez I would suggest going to a professional. Hopefully someone in experience with amnesia.
I am the same I hardly remember highschool. My biggest issue is zoning out. I get lost in "daydreams". 30 minutes will go by and it's like I wasn't even in the room. I was off in my mind.
I also have forgotten chunks of my life. It’s so weird because I remember having a ridiculously good memory. I think that stopped in college somehow and now I can’t remember so much....I’m just realizing now maybe it was my epilepsy medication coupled with consuming alcohol etc a lot in college
@@alexpfafman5668 I do too! Only I call it daydreaming or spacing out. I'll look at the clock and an hour or more has gone by or I'll be in it so deep that I have to look around to ground myself back into reality and where I am at.
@@LuluMcRod62 Yep! Me exactly
The initial comment made that **if there’s no trauma, there cannot be a dissociative diagnosis**.........This is dismissive of those who are definitely dissociative (even clearly with DID) but have no memory of their childhood years. In these cases, the trauma is contained (or held) in hidden younger dissociative parts. Good trauma therapy can reveal this buried history, but it takes years.
But the comment above **, implies that these clients are making up their dissociative states. That does a HUGE disservice to DID clients who, by the nature if their illness, will then continue to keep their trauma a secret to their “living in the present” selves.
Right. I disassociate. Sometimes I don’t believe I am real or that what I do is real. I know my family has history of trauma but I don’t know exactly what the cause of my problem is.
I knew something was wrong when I was a preteen, I would get these feelings, it’s hard to explain the feeling, but I would just feel so alone and cold and empty inside.
I remember speaking to someone in high school and I felt numb and strange and couldn't connect to them at all. Is that the "feeling" you mean? I've tried to pin down multiple times and put it as anxiety in the past
You're not alone. Weed helps my family member that suffers from the same thing
There is no help for us in the medical and mental health community. My episodes are destroying my life, it’s sad that I have to desperately search for some form of solution or consolation on UA-cam, but yet when I am suffering with symptoms in the moment there are no providers in my area that know what I’m talking about. I feel so alone. At least I can watch these videos to remind myself that I’m not crazy and what I am going is real.
Thanks for your videos :)
@A N O N Thank you :)
Those guys are amateurish.
Try Jordon Peterson.
@@joshbrentnall9292 Thanks 🤣
@@djangoapple8230 JP has saved my life 🥰
@@courtneymorris2293 love you Courtney. Therapist are more concerned with money and paperwork than helping us.
One hour a week for a life thats been destroyed is hardly help.
I was left alone in my.room as a child. Not abused till .My teens and worse abuse in .marriage 20s and 30s. There was a period of time when I would forget where I put .my car or disoriented as to where I actually was?
My mom has narcissistic traits, very ignoring growing up if I need anything emotional. Unless she was in a good mood or around others. So I tend to disassociate not sure how but I lose track of time. Been Dx with Bipolar 2, CPTSD & severe emotional abandonment disorder.
Thanks for sharing.
I started dissociating as a kid several times that i can remember then again later in my 20's, i would not remember driving home from work which was like an hour drive that i did every day. I believe my mother has some mental issues and my ex husband is a covert aggressive(passive aggressive) covert narcissist, since exiting the marriage i have not had it happen again. I got into therapy during my marriage, i only went for a couple of sessions but i remember the therapist telling me that it sounded like i was dissociating. I am now in recovery for all of this and I came across this topic, i had forgotten all about her saying that until i realized i had seen/heard that word before. Very interesting, thank you for your video.
Do you think there's a way to treat yourself? I have money for a therapist. How do I control this? 😔
Was Charlie Brown the interior decorator?
I personally don’t remember much from my early childhood but during the traumatic times I remember, I always just dissociated through it. We are a system now but it was so strange forgetting so many moments and just not knowing about many memories.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
That shirt is distracting but unique. It's so.......green. lol. Not bad just unique.
I think Charlie Brown might have been the interior decorator!
@@flodfellow lol maybe that's it. It just stands out from the background.
HAHAHAHAHAHA i cant stop looking at it
More turquoise.... but yeah . Wow very contrasting and distracting colour ....
@@allanpenford8787 ok yeah. I don't know all the shade names lol
What is so confusing is that certain time-periods which did not elicit a reaction of stress (at least I don't think so) are missing. Like how come I don't remember 7th grade when others around me remember how I was? For e.g, one of my classmates brought up the fact that I "barely attended school in 7th grade" - she brought this up in 9th grade and that's something which I should have been able to remember, especially since others in my class unanimously agreed. Yet I still have no clue as to what I was doing during that year and I start studying in University this semester...So my question is this; How do I go about trying to recall memories from a time period where nothing traumatic was occuring? (I mean...I was still being abused that year, but I’ve recalled and processed those memories - just not the ones where things should have been relatively normal).
I feel so sad, empty and also I believe I am wasted although I believe I am much superior than most people. I am very violent especially if they disrespect me and I feel alive in violence. I had a very violent fight against 10 cops who provoked me lately all by myself and put them in their place. I get so mad when disrespected. I was once diagnosed with GAD for excessive worrying and it was very painful, no peace even for a second and I have to take efexor everyday for 5 years now. However it looks like what I have is more than GAD. I am highly educated professional but I dont trust justice cause there is not! I was sentenced for the felonies that I have never committed. I lost my dad at a very early age but my mom was very devoted to me. However, I enrolled in military school at age 15 to 17. I so often lose my direction in life. I dont trust relationships since everybody looks after their interest first! I find true companionship in animals, especially dogs. My spirit animal is a Siberian Tiger. I stop eating meat because of men's cruelty to innocent animals who love humans. I never liked helping my dad beheading animals when I am little but I have eaten them, crying. Its just very cold all of a sudden someone very cute loving innocent starts looking with dead eyes and all blood splashing is very ugly.
My friend was not abused as a child but in real life he sometimes did get yelled at and was bullied in school and sometimes for no reason he will breathe heavily and it will seem like he blacks out and like I dont know maybe a half hour later he come back and wont remember anything does he have mpd or did also it seems like he was himself but at the same time he wasnt it was like someone else was controlling him in his body
mpd (multiple personality disorder) is an outdated term btw-
There is a group that considers themselves “Plural” without trauma.
While I don’t want to diminish anyone’s experience I find anyone who thinks that being plural is just is what they are and don’t need fixing should stay off of Dissociative Disorder
commenting on sites pages or videos that are here to educate about what is a mechanism to deal with trauma.
My therapist talked to me about my different "parts of self that take care of me" because of all of the severe trauma I went through at an early age but then my insurance cut our and she is very vague on her responses on the topic ever since. Any advice? We came up with about 8 system parts of myself..... but I haven't been diagnosed and haven't told anyone other than my GP
Thanks for the message. What did your insurance do? Are you saying that the therapist is very vague now? If I understand you correctly, it may be good to see if you can find someone with expertise in DID. They are not easy to find, but certainly someone who specializes in trauma should be able to help, as well. Let us know how things are going. -- Dr. B
@@TheMentalBreakdown My insurance just changed because I changed jobs lol
@John Mc Clein M. Federico I'm not sure what you mean?
@John Mc Clein M. Federico here's a video I made after I got diagnosed that might clarify some things 😊ua-cam.com/video/93atjaE8F8o/v-deo.html
Therapists need money first …. They will keep you sick if you don’t pay or if insurance doesn’t pay …. Harsh reality …. Therapy is also a business …. It’s not entirely a humanitarian field …. Like the Red Cross …. Harsh reality …. I had an excellent therapist who stopped treating me and left me stranded , I couldn’t afford his 350$ hourly sessions ….. Sorry to be so blunt ….
I really really appreciate y’all’s videos!!!! They have been SO HELPFUL TO ME!!!- beyond belief! Thank you
Something in our brains clicked after feeling so much during the..situations....it’s that click..my friend caught me with a dead stare during a situation that triggered a memory and seen the dissociating and blankness in my face, she pointed out then and there I was numbing myself without me even noticing I do it..pay attention..
It’s weird, I’m not under the impression that I’ve got DID, but for some reason, i e got two distinct personalities, or rather, moods.
One, which is anxious about everything, wanting to stay healthy, workout, enjoys some genres of music and fashion.
Another, which I would say, wants or feels a need to commit crimes, on a computing level, such as hacking. Music choice also changes to western music such as rap.
These “moods” shift, I was thinking that it could be DID or something similar, as I have had a very traumatic three years, maybe it could be something like that? I’m only 21, and I used to never be like this...
Is there any reason to assume that I do have DID or similar personality disorders based on what I’ve told you here?
Was thinking about telling my parents, but I don’t want to make myself out to fake something or to get attention.
Thanks for your comment. Given much of what you wrote, I don't know that I would jump to DID. I would be pretty confident, though, that these changes could be related to the three traumatic years you mentioned. I certainly think that it would be good for you to see a mental health professional to more fully explore these changes in your mood and preferences. I hope that goes well and that you find some relief.
ur 12 and u just like different hobbies.
I’m curious if dissociation of childhood could happen within a household that neglects ands isolates a child more so then abuse and manipulation? In your opinion?
I would say yes, That happened to me and is where my disassociation came from i believe.
neglect and isolation is abuse!
@@gaia2407 Yes!
Yes cause it happened to me.
Psychology is all theoretical, and everyone can have their own theory and eat it too! Hence the very rationale for modern drugs. Plus it's about the funding money
Can dissociation come from emotional neglect?
Yes. Emotional neglect is traumatic
Abuse and trauma? You said the disorder must include trauma, but not all abuse is trauma. There goes that theory
Not all abuse is trauma?? Do you mean not all trauma is abuse?
@@kat251 no
How do you figure not all abuse is trauma? You mean some ppl cope with it and therefore don’t develop did or PTSD or what?
@@peachsystem1024 as in my case being sexual abused, it wasn't traumatic. Not all sexual abuse is traumatic such as a rape is. When a parent fondles a child, the child doesn't know its wrong so therefore there's no trauma, at least at the time it happens.
@@jeeppayton Disagree with your theory. The child may not know it is wrong to be fondled but the damage of incest or pedophilia is done. The body remembers and the brain records this shit. The instance will manifest in other ways, such as problems with intimacy or trust issues to name only two. I don't want to get into a debate about what happens down the line, we would be here forever. Suffice it to say that inappropriately touching of a child is a traumatic thing in that it teaches doing wrong is somehow OK. This makes any other pandemic look almost non-existent.
If you are just trying to survive being criticized, condemned or picked apart every day just because you exist, isn't dissociating a survival strategy at its most fundamental. To attack another's self concept until they barely want to remain on earth is a horrendous thing to do to another human being. This is why Jesus warned against judging others. He was spot on.
Thank you very much.
I would like to ask your personal opinion.
Can chronic illnessess which went unduangised for almost two decades which has compromised my CNS, can have cuase that?
I have been diagnosed with Biopolar/adhd ( ring of fire).
My neurodegenerative is now under controll but even today, when the pain is unbearable I change with mood, memories and so on.
But who are you or who is ANYONE to say that there is no significant history of trauma? DID can be caused by a child being ripped from their parents care and placed in foster care, having to live without their parents being there regularly... and even after moving back home, one of the parents are gone due to being forced out of the home by the same people who ripped from their parents.... Or it could be from a car accident, or some type of trauma, but DID develops from trauma, period. We cannot play judges on whether a trauma is serious enough or not serious enough to cause brain splitting aka DID.
I'd have to disagree on the commit that you made about repeat abuse. Because I can tell you that if the mind goes through a hard enough tramatic event the mind will split. I know this because I have gone through this myself I'm now 39 and I've had my DID ever since I was 4 and it all happened from 1 event in my life yes after my mind split I went through other events but that all started from 1 event only. And now as an adult I have entergrade from having more then 30 to haveing only 8 and I love having them and I'm a male by society standards but I have 3 female alter that are just as active as the rest of them. You may call yourselves experts but you really need to check your facts before you spread false beliefs to others as to what can cause and how much trama someone needs to go through before the mind will split to take the pain and the suffering to keep the body alive with
I couldn’t even pay attention it was so boring and the guy in the turquoise keeps looking for approval of the guy in white. I literally almost fell asleep
All my senses stop working. Everything is black.silent. I don’t know how it ends.
The other guy should not be allowed to come out.
Frank Putnam has written books on the subject as well as others.
Yet if the therapist is already a skeptic I doubt that these will change their minds.
I have d.i.d and I don’t know where it comes from. Maybe because is saw some kind of „Alien“ in my mirror when was four, or it is because I had several panic attacks when I was 5-8. Can someone tell me if it is because of something there? Would be very nice
Im gonna stop writing now I had a Switchy day today
Thank you for these great videos, I subscribed. Incidentally, I also discuss mental health topics like dissociation on my channel--I think you may like it. Thanks again for your informative videos.
I was fine until i received my tbi then i had two different personalities one as a child one as a adult but lost memories and when the episodes happened i dont know what the other did and i didn't know i was sick
Interesting. How s this different from CPTSD? Thank you! 😊
Doctor Google, 🤣 Thanks for all this!
Is brain spotting helpful at all to this type of memory lapse or stopping it in later life?
Please boost your audio.
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