I am going back home to Wyoming this year (2023) to go after an antelope. I am taking both my .54 caliber Early Virginia style rifle and .62 caliber rifles transitional with me. I built both rifles from scratch (other than barrel and lock) and am looking forward to trying to get a speed goat. I love you videos and thank your sir!
I'm waiting for a Kiebler .45 cal flintlock kit. I was also thinking about the versatility of the 45 in choosing the barrel and I'm seeing that people are successfully shooting even elk with it. Thanks for the video, well done.
Good stuff, Keith. In the 80s I had a neighbor that swore by those bullets out of his flinter. Me...not so much. My 1:66 twist won't group them 1/2 as good as PRBs.
As a PA boy we invented and taught you how to shoot those guns. Plus you are probably just transplanted seeds any way. LOL Love your video. Do you know what brand those bullets are? I have two custom .54 Hawkins with 1:66 twist. One flintier and one percussion. Also have .45 long rifle. The most important thin about hunting shot placement. Nothing lives long with a hole in its heart or lungs tore up!
Congulstions on your buck! Like the 45 cal 1812.Like that it was build from a kit.Like all of your videos.I muzzled hunt for deer. Have been watching your videos for 3 years.David from Menifee co KY.
I will watch for it. I appreciated the tone of this video, the earthiness, the respect for the taking of a life, no high-fives and "whacked him good" kind of comments. I guess that's why I'm building a long bow and want to build a flint-lock long rifle. I currently have a 50cal percussion, but this may be the summer for building that flintlock and for making my own black powder, for shedding reliance on the marketplace for powder and caps. I do want to make sure I can get bullets for a 45 caliber 1:60 or 1:66 twist, or better yet get the bullet molds. It appears those bullets you're using are Rifle Engraved At Loading (R-E-A-L) bullets. They're not easy to find in 45 caliber nor the molds. Checked with Track of the Wolf, Brownells, and others. The Possible Shop is out of the 250 grain molds but they do have some 200 grain molds. Thanks again and looking forward to more.
I shoot a .54 caliber Hawken. I've over the years learned that you are correct about bullet/ powder loads. The days of me loading 90 grs of 2F under a 425 gr bullet and taking a pounding is over. I now use the same bullet with 15 grs less powder.
Awesome hunt you were in the deer for and a lot bucks little ones but the one you got was really nice enjoyed thanks for sharing, what all have you did to it really nice looking rifle
Deer can easily be taken at short distance with correct bullet placement with a 22lr. So a 45 caliber m.l. with your 3 ring conical bullet is perfectly adequate , as you stated, WITH correct bullet placement. People think they need a 300 Win mag and its simply not true. Great video
I started off with a repro of an 1853 enfield. I hunted with the standard military load, 68gr of 1.5f behind a 530gr bullet. I cannot count the number of times I was asked if I was sure I had enough powder... Worked for the Brits, works for me!
That's a nice buck. Any buck in the freezer is a nice one though right. I'm leaving Thursday to head up to the NE corner of Washington state for whitetail late buck. First hunt with my new flintlock.
Great stuff mate, I dream of getting over to the states to hunt a buck like that one day with my flinter. I think use whatever load works best, some of my guns like up to 120gr 2F some far less. Flinters are finicky things, smoothbores moreso but finding what they like is all part of the fun.
I use the same style Lee REAL bullet in my 50 cal Hawken. It weighs 250 gr and likes 100 gr of FFg. Every whitetail I’ve shot with it has been over 150 pounds and has been taken off their feet when hit. That’s not to say some didn’t get up and run a short distance after, but I’ve never had a recovery over 75 yards. Wouldn’t hesitate to use that bullet for elk, black bear or mule dear either.
Man you found yourself a little honey hole for deer. You coulda killed that first little spike with a club, he got that close. I’m just getting interested in traditional muzzle loading, and I never would have thought a .45 cal would be that much lighter than a .50 cal. Now I know why they go that big usually. But of course a good bullet design is more important than a small change in calibre. I’m trying to decide if I go flint lock, vs percussion. Honestly I like percussion because of increased resistance to bad weather, but geeze, with caps being so hard to find for reloading, maybe flintlock isn’t so bad after all.
A short bullet will stabilize with a slow twist I use the same type of bullets I mold them myself. I would be interested to know how you clean the oil out of the gun before you go hunting. Every time I load the first time I have ignition problems after that it's good to go
I’ve only ever lost one to a.45 round ball and it was poor shot placement due to a moisture induced hang fire. A buddy gave me the bullet mold and my gun really likes them for some reason.
Have a 54 caplock and 50 flinter. Wonder how those bullets might work in those? Got any ideas? Good hunt. Here's wishing you well from Oklahoma but about 4 generations ago my mother's side of the family was from Kentucky. Know any Doss folks?
Hello Keith, when you mold your bullets, what do you use ? Pure lead, wheel weights, ? Do you mix in a hardener like tin? Thanks, look forward o your videos!!
Im curious about the rifling in that gun. Does it have the deep grooves for roundball only or is it a more shallow groove for conicals. The shallow grooved barrels will shoot either a round ball or conical but the deep grooves are for round ball only. Are you able to shoot those conicals in a deep grooved barrel?
Can't answer for him but most folks just empty the pan real well, wipe it out and plug the touch hole with a round toothpick or feather. Just needs to be reprimed the next time you go out. It's a good idea to put a leather frizzen stall over the frizzen to eliminate any chance of sparks.
@@RamshackleHomesteadKeithandJen Awesome. I have wanted to get into traditional blackpowder hunting for a long time and am finally able to afford a flintlock. I just can’t decide on caliber. My worry is if 45 caliber is enough. I’d like to not go up to 50 caliber if I don’t have too to keep it more traditional to rifles used in my part of the country back in the day.
That's an interesting video. I built my 45 flinter with versatility in mind, deer & small game. I'm intrigued with your 3 band bullet. Do you patch it, lube it? Some one commented on the flintlock being finicky, I've never found them to be so. There's always a reason why.
Instead of round ball. I’ll admit I feel a lot better with a .50 or .54 cal to take down a good buck. But I don’t know how big the deer in your area are. 😊
a RB is all you need, i do not like tricky stuff. and as far as a barrel long enough to burn all the powder, not true. all the powder is burned instantly at the explosion. As long as the bullet is travelling down the barrel the propellant gasses can't dissipate. That means the pressure will accelerate the bullet. As soon as the bullet leaves the barrel, the gasses dissipate, the pressure drops and air resistance starts slowing the bullet down. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I’ve taken a lot of game with round ball for sure. We will just have to disagree on the powder burning. Try shooting across the snow or white drop cloth with a heavy load.
@@RamshackleHomesteadKeithandJen no argument, it is a scientific fact it all burns instantly! oh, you may see sparks of powder residue and patch burning on the ground, but the real burning is done at the initial explosion,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have a Kibler 45 caliber I’m putting together for hunting and if you don’t mind me asking what is the name of or company that makes that 3ring conical that you use I would like to try them in mine when I get to the point of load and lead development but mine is a 1 in 70 twist 44” long swamped barrel !! It would be greatly appreciated if you could let me know please !! Thank you …… PS …. Excellent shot on an amazing buck …. Great job Sir !!
It’s an older Lyman mold a friend picked up at a yard sale. He gave it to me and I gave it a try . My barrel is 1/66 and it is extremely accurate with them shooting 55gr ffg.
I just got my Kibler kit finished as far as assembly!! Now comes the finish and bluing process!! Was just curious about it !! They look very accurate as far as looks go. Thank you for answering a back woods country boy who love blackpowder shooting and hunting !!
I shot my first whitetail buck with a 45 cal.rifle. Made the bullet I used to kill it with. You have a great channel, keep your videos coming.
Thanks!
Good hunt, good buck my friend! God bless!
Jesse
I am going back home to Wyoming this year (2023) to go after an antelope. I am taking both my .54 caliber Early Virginia style rifle and .62 caliber rifles transitional with me. I built both rifles from scratch (other than barrel and lock) and am looking forward to trying to get a speed goat. I love you videos and thank your sir!
I'm waiting for a Kiebler .45 cal flintlock kit. I was also thinking about the versatility of the 45 in choosing the barrel and I'm seeing that people are successfully shooting even elk with it. Thanks for the video, well done.
Nicely done, sir. Great footage, and I enjoy black powder hunting so your little bit about loads was interesting.
Another great video, thanks for taking us hunting with you!
Thanks!!!
I have the same gun at .54! Great Video.
Great shot, and a beautiful buck!
That's some awesome footage! Congratulations on a successful season for both of you!!
Good stuff, Keith. In the 80s I had a neighbor that swore by those bullets out of his flinter. Me...not so much. My 1:66 twist won't group them 1/2 as good as PRBs.
Yes and us Louisiana Boys still talk about them Kentucky deeds. That's what this country needs now. 👍
Half horse half alligator!
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As a PA boy we invented and taught you how to shoot those guns. Plus you are probably just transplanted seeds any way. LOL Love your video. Do you know what brand those bullets are? I have two custom .54 Hawkins with 1:66 twist. One flintier and one percussion. Also have .45 long rifle. The most important thin about hunting shot placement. Nothing lives long with a hole in its heart or lungs tore up!
Congulstions on your buck! Like the 45 cal 1812.Like that it was build from a kit.Like all of your videos.I muzzled hunt for deer. Have been watching your videos for 3 years.David from Menifee co KY.
Thanks for discussing your load. Looking to go full traditional with 45 cal and this video was very helpful and confidence building.
Thanks for watching. Editing a pig hunt with this same rifle and load. Be watching for it.
I will watch for it. I appreciated the tone of this video, the earthiness, the respect for the taking of a life, no high-fives and "whacked him good" kind of comments. I guess that's why I'm building a long bow and want to build a flint-lock long rifle. I currently have a 50cal percussion, but this may be the summer for building that flintlock and for making my own black powder, for shedding reliance on the marketplace for powder and caps. I do want to make sure I can get bullets for a 45 caliber 1:60 or 1:66 twist, or better yet get the bullet molds. It appears those bullets you're using are Rifle Engraved At Loading (R-E-A-L) bullets. They're not easy to find in 45 caliber nor the molds. Checked with Track of the Wolf, Brownells, and others. The Possible Shop is out of the 250 grain molds but they do have some 200 grain molds. Thanks again and looking forward to more.
I shoot a .54 caliber Hawken. I've over the years learned that you are correct about bullet/ powder loads. The days of me loading 90 grs of 2F under a 425 gr bullet and taking a pounding is over. I now use the same bullet with 15 grs less powder.
Nice hunt and a great looking spot there !!
Awesome hunt you were in the deer for and a lot bucks little ones but the one you got was really nice enjoyed thanks for sharing, what all have you did to it really nice looking rifle
Deer can easily be taken at short distance with correct bullet placement with a 22lr. So a 45 caliber m.l. with your 3 ring conical bullet is perfectly adequate , as you stated, WITH correct bullet placement. People think they need a 300 Win mag and its simply not true. Great video
I started off with a repro of an 1853 enfield. I hunted with the standard military load, 68gr of 1.5f behind a 530gr bullet. I cannot count the number of times I was asked if I was sure I had enough powder... Worked for the Brits, works for me!
You inspired me to take my .50 TVM Early Virginia out this morning. No deer though...
That's a nice buck. Any buck in the freezer is a nice one though right. I'm leaving Thursday to head up to the NE corner of Washington state for whitetail late buck. First hunt with my new flintlock.
Great stuff mate, I dream of getting over to the states to hunt a buck like that one day with my flinter.
I think use whatever load works best, some of my guns like up to 120gr 2F some far less. Flinters are finicky things, smoothbores moreso but finding what they like is all part of the fun.
You get over here first of November we might could make that happen!
@@RamshackleHomesteadKeithandJen hopefully someday, if you're ever in Australia hit me up. Always happy to take a fellow flintlock hunter out 👍
I use the same style Lee REAL bullet in my 50 cal Hawken. It weighs 250 gr and likes 100 gr of FFg. Every whitetail I’ve shot with it has been over 150 pounds and has been taken off their feet when hit. That’s not to say some didn’t get up and run a short distance after, but I’ve never had a recovery over 75 yards. Wouldn’t hesitate to use that bullet for elk, black bear or mule dear either.
Man you found yourself a little honey hole for deer. You coulda killed that first little spike with a club, he got that close.
I’m just getting interested in traditional muzzle loading, and I never would have thought a .45 cal would be that much lighter than a .50 cal. Now I know why they go that big usually. But of course a good bullet design is more important than a small change in calibre.
I’m trying to decide if I go flint lock, vs percussion. Honestly I like percussion because of increased resistance to bad weather, but geeze, with caps being so hard to find for reloading, maybe flintlock isn’t so bad after all.
Well done Sir! Any big heads join you for a early morning boat ride?
Silver got a little twitchy but none came aboard!
A short bullet will stabilize with a slow twist I use the same type of bullets I mold them myself. I would be interested to know how you clean the oil out of the gun before you go hunting. Every time I load the first time I have ignition problems after that it's good to go
I swab it to death !! I also use only animal fat I render as barrel lube generally bear or coon oil.
Ive never had problems with 45 round ball and whitetail.
I’ve only ever lost one to a.45 round ball and it was poor shot placement due to a moisture induced hang fire. A buddy gave me the bullet mold and my gun really likes them for some reason.
Hope you all are doing great!!!
We are , thank you.
Have a 54 caplock and 50 flinter. Wonder how those bullets might work in those? Got any ideas? Good hunt. Here's wishing you well from Oklahoma but about 4 generations ago my mother's side of the family was from Kentucky. Know any Doss folks?
Hello Keith, when you mold your bullets, what do you use ? Pure lead, wheel weights, ? Do you mix in a hardener like tin? Thanks, look forward o your videos!!
Most of what I’m using now is plumbing lead it’s pretty soft stuff. It’s definitely softer than wheel weights. Thanks for watching!
Im curious about the rifling in that gun. Does it have the deep grooves for roundball only or is it a more shallow groove for conicals. The shallow grooved barrels will shoot either a round ball or conical but the deep grooves are for round ball only. Are you able to shoot those conicals in a deep grooved barrel?
did you cast those bullets yourself? if so where did you get em? Lee or?
Yes sir it’s an awesome lad Lee mold
Nice deer, a question…….. if you are loaded and don’t take a shot that day what do you do regarding your load in the gun ?
I’ll go a week if conditions are dry and not unloaded. I clear the pan of powder, put a feather in the touch hole and leave the gun in my shop.
Can't answer for him but most folks just empty the pan real well, wipe it out and plug the touch hole with a round toothpick or feather. Just needs to be reprimed the next time you go out. It's a good idea to put a leather frizzen stall over the frizzen to eliminate any chance of sparks.
Was that a Lee real bullet
Have you had any luck taking deer with the 45 patched round ball?
Yes , I’ve taken several with .45 rb
@@RamshackleHomesteadKeithandJen Awesome. I have wanted to get into traditional blackpowder hunting for a long time and am finally able to afford a flintlock. I just can’t decide on caliber. My worry is if 45 caliber is enough. I’d like to not go up to 50 caliber if I don’t have too to keep it more traditional to rifles used in my part of the country back in the day.
That's an interesting video. I built my 45 flinter with versatility in mind, deer & small game. I'm intrigued with your 3 band bullet. Do you patch it, lube it? Some one commented on the flintlock being finicky, I've never found them to be so. There's always a reason why.
I lube it with bear fat and no patch. I think they were referring to finicky in the sense of powder and bullet/ball combinations.
Would you consider that a maxi ball?Did you cast them or buy them?
Very similar to a mini ball. I cast them myself.
what kind of 45 cal bullet do you use
Instead of round ball. I’ll admit I feel a lot better with a .50 or .54 cal to take down a good buck. But I don’t know how big the deer in your area are. 😊
I just found your channel. I
What would you charge to make me a 50 cal or 45 cal flintlock with fast lock time so I don't get a delay?
a RB is all you need, i do not like tricky stuff. and as far as a barrel long enough to burn all the powder, not true. all the powder is burned instantly at the explosion. As long as the bullet is travelling down the barrel the propellant gasses can't dissipate. That means the pressure will accelerate the bullet. As soon as the bullet leaves the barrel, the gasses dissipate, the pressure drops and air resistance starts slowing the bullet down. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I’ve taken a lot of game with round ball for sure. We will just have to disagree on the powder burning. Try shooting across the snow or white drop cloth with a heavy load.
@@RamshackleHomesteadKeithandJen no argument, it is a scientific fact it all burns instantly! oh, you may see sparks of powder residue and patch burning on the ground, but the real burning is done at the initial explosion,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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I have a Kibler 45 caliber I’m putting together for hunting and if you don’t mind me asking what is the name of or company that makes that 3ring conical that you use I would like to try them in mine when I get to the point of load and lead development but mine is a 1 in 70 twist 44” long swamped barrel !! It would be greatly appreciated if you could let me know please !! Thank you …… PS …. Excellent shot on an amazing buck …. Great job Sir !!
It’s an older Lyman mold a friend picked up at a yard sale. He gave it to me and I gave it a try . My barrel is 1/66 and it is extremely accurate with them shooting 55gr ffg.
I just got my Kibler kit finished as far as assembly!! Now comes the finish and bluing process!! Was just curious about it !! They look very accurate as far as looks go. Thank you for answering a back woods country boy who love blackpowder shooting and hunting !!