Nice video, it would be nice to see more content with the Yamaha/Giant Sincdrive pro motors, it's a great piece of equipment and it would be nice to see more comparisons with the Bosh and the Shimano, maybe a long day ride with the same size battery to see which one is more power efficient and capable for the big hill climbs.
Carloscf13 Totally agree. Giant manufacture over70% of bikes in the world and build frames for other makes. Would be nice , as you say, to see more comparaisons from them
Fab channel, great chemistry. Could you do a programme comparing a few different make bikes together, not elite v expensive bikes but more what most will buy and afford. I know choice is personal but it would be great to see you do a selection of emtbs side by side.
You can ride the Shimano e8000 switched on but in "off mode", I ride down hill like this sometimes. With one click of the mode change button it will change to eco and then again to trail or boost with no error message.
The information on your channel makes deciding to own, and then riding and maintaining an ebike easy. Thanks, guys. I think the only question I have left at this point is how do I know when the motor assembly is ready for service?
@@marilakay4902 it depends on more factors: your battery 🔋 from 500 Wh to 700 Wh, your weight, how much you are pedaling, how much support from e-motor are you using. One example, my battery is 504 Wh, my weight 90 kg, plus 22 kg ebike, I use on my Levo only Eco mode with only 20 % support, when I ride cca. 1.000 hm, then my range is between 50 to 70 km. And I don't want to come home 🏡 with absolutely empty battery 🔋, it remains always 10-15%
@@CurvedSlightly eco is nothing like a normal trial bike you even bigger nonce. eco still delivers 50nm of torque, which is far more than your puny legs can generate. I don't even own a car so HA!
@@CurvedSlightly yes you have to have an anti anti theft for your anti theft because they're prime target or you'll be the prime target so might as well get a bodygourd or start self defence program. THE LIFE of e bike huh tell me about it 😔
Great content, thanks. Would love to see some eBike trail etiquette included as the eBikes have brought in a lot of newbies to the mt biking sport. Above and beyond regular cycling etiquette I advise eBike riders to be EXTRA courteous to EVERY OTHER trail user out there. The last thing we need in the mt biking community is more conflict that could result in trail restrictions for all 🙂
Great program. I am thinking of getting a ebike to commute to work but unsure on what to look for and if possible. My journey to work is 28miles each way and I wouldn't be able to charge battery when get to work.
Thankyou, easy to understand for first timers. I just got my first e bike, a cannondale Montera 4. Just waiting for day light for first ever e bike experience????
What mode… It depends on what kind of ride I want. If I want to push myself, I ride more in Eco. I want to move a bit faster and I’m gonna be in the saddle for 2-3 hours w lots of elevation, I use trail. If it’s a sucky climb and I just wanna get back to the top… Boost all day, baby!
How to I lock my Ebike when in town? Is Insurance a must? How loud should the motor be? How do I know if my Ebike needs servicing? Are women Ebikes different and why?
I’m in the Arizona Desert and I have a Polygon still in the box in my truck. I’m waiting to get a 2” receiver put on the front of my truck before putting it together again. ( I rode it for a day then took it back apart and put it in the box could lock it up in the camper shell on my truck ). I’m a new e-bike rider. 😅
ANY lock or chain can be cut, especially if some fool is running around with a battery-powered high-speed grinder, so keep the bike in sight or inside of the vehicle. I insured my e-bike against theft anywhere in the world, I paid a LOT of money for the e-bike, no sense trying to save money by not having insurance. The controller will usually tell you when the e-bike needs servicing. Women e-bikes are often smaller and have curved top tubes. (All of this is just what I have learned from having an e-bike, I am certain that different opinions will vary. Have fun!)
Be aware that some idiot with a battery powered high-speed grinder can cut through any lock., probably in less than 1 minute. When I can't keep an eye on my e-bike I'll probably remove the front wheel and stuff the whole e-bike in the car. Pain in the a@@ for sure, but e-bikes are a prime target for thieves.
With my Levo, i find myself switching the motor off altogether quite often lately. For instance on flat trails or roads or simply periods i just want to enjoy nature and drive slowly anyway. First thing i did when i got the bike was lowering the Eco Mode settings to 15 % assist with 30% peak using the app. Default Eco was just pushing a little too much for me. In Eco, i just want the extra weight of the bike to dissappear when im exhausted or a trail gets really demanding. Trail and Boost are for going steep upill or simply ... speeeeed and fun ... which are commenly the same thing :-D
My question Would you add the same amount of psi to your fork on a 20 pound heavier e bike (than your regular bike )as you would if you were heavier by 20 pounds heavier around the girth , in other words does the weight distribution make a difference as to how much additional psi you put in your fork and shock?
For an eMTB and depending on the manufacturer and bike type, you'd typically want to go for a sag of about 20-25% of the stroke of the fork or shock. And, to get that sag, it will differ between bikes and riders.
I think the Chinese is the best at eMTB. Have you ever seen the Bafang powered eMTB? 120mph on Chinese street, the biker was directly crashed to death. The motor is damn impressive though.
Hi just got my first e bike haibike hardnine 5 so far lovin it but can you answer one question pse once I reach max assistance speed 15.5 mph I find it feels as if the motor is restricting me almost holding me back sensation is this normal ?
My ebike cuts power??? I recently got a 48 V rear 1000 watt Dumb down factory to 750. A 58 ah battery. All I hook up is the motor wires and the battery. No ebike brake. I use mine no power. It flaps the breeze. No peddle assist ither. It ran fine a few days then the power cut out. checked fuse. OK Replace same fuse. Power came on lights on.???? 1 mile later the same musical fuse. Then half mile then quarter the blocks. It's getting worse and worse. Got a clue?
Conversely I find it a reassuring thrumming noise as it augments the input pedal thrust. Unless you lower the EMTB augmentation levels there’s little human grunting and huffing, so mechanical noise is more apparent.
If you have 4* assist, you don't go "4 times faster at a quarter of the effort". You go twice as fast at the same effort, assuming your bike has the wattage. Ek = 1/2 mv^2
derestricting removes the drag on Shimano e8000 system. You can ride it switched on, in "Off Mode" and it will ride like a normal bike. Good when you're riding with others without ebikes.
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I am from India.... Now I am motivated to do mountain bike... You motivated me for this... Thanks..
Nice video, it would be nice to see more content with the Yamaha/Giant Sincdrive pro motors, it's a great piece of equipment and it would be nice to see more comparisons with the Bosh and the Shimano, maybe a long day ride with the same size battery to see which one is more power efficient and capable for the big hill climbs.
I totally agree, it's All about high end Emtbs Gaint ebikes are the best value on the market 💪✌
Carloscf13 Totally agree. Giant manufacture over70% of bikes in the world and build frames for other makes. Would be nice , as you say, to see more comparaisons from them
Fab channel, great chemistry. Could you do a programme comparing a few different make bikes together, not elite v expensive bikes but more what most will buy and afford. I know choice is personal but it would be great to see you do a selection of emtbs side by side.
Nice video, common sense stuff nicely explained and pleasantly presented.
You can ride the Shimano e8000 switched on but in "off mode", I ride down hill like this sometimes. With one click of the mode change button it will change to eco and then again to trail or boost with no error message.
The information on your channel makes deciding to own, and then riding and maintaining an ebike easy. Thanks, guys.
I think the only question I have left at this point is how do I know when the motor assembly is ready for service?
I ride in eco and only ever boost higher when im either completely knackered or just want to get up something steep fast.
How far will you go in Trail riding with ups and downs with your Ebike?
@@marilakay4902 it depends on more factors: your battery 🔋 from 500 Wh to 700 Wh, your weight, how much you are pedaling, how much support from e-motor are you using. One example, my battery is 504 Wh, my weight 90 kg, plus 22 kg ebike, I use on my Levo only Eco mode with only 20 % support, when I ride cca. 1.000 hm, then my range is between 50 to 70 km. And I don't want to come home 🏡 with absolutely empty battery 🔋, it remains always 10-15%
Then it's pointless you having an ebike you nonce. ECO is the same as a normal trail bike. I bet you drive a BMW/Audi? Am I right? I am? Right.
@@CurvedSlightly eco is nothing like a normal trial bike you even bigger nonce. eco still delivers 50nm of torque, which is far more than your puny legs can generate. I don't even own a car so HA!
What mode?
Simple, the one that gets you to the top with a smile on your face 😁😁😁
Why cant we have a e cycle charging network, then we could ride our bikes as far as we like.
if you transport your eMTB on the outside of your car consider an anti theft device they are prime targets.
The anti theft devices are prime targets?
@@CurvedSlightly yes you have to have an anti anti theft for your anti theft because they're prime target or you'll be the prime target so might as well get a bodygourd or start self defence program. THE LIFE of e bike huh tell me about it 😔
Great content, thanks. Would love to see some eBike trail etiquette included as the eBikes have brought in a lot of newbies to the mt biking sport. Above and beyond regular cycling etiquette I advise eBike riders to be EXTRA courteous to EVERY OTHER trail user out there. The last thing we need in the mt biking community is more conflict that could result in trail restrictions for all 🙂
Nice overview for me!
Getting an ebike soon!
Covid back order...
Great program. I am thinking of getting a ebike to commute to work but unsure on what to look for and if possible.
My journey to work is 28miles each way and I wouldn't be able to charge battery when get to work.
Thankyou, easy to understand for first timers. I just got my first e bike, a cannondale Montera 4. Just waiting for day light for first ever e bike experience????
Great video, very informative and well presented!
IMO when changing the the chain/cassette always do both at once,
What is Muc-Off? ... not sure if I've ever seen the products before?, but might buy some after watching this, some good cleaning tips BTW
What mode… It depends on what kind of ride I want. If I want to push myself, I ride more in Eco. I want to move a bit faster and I’m gonna be in the saddle for 2-3 hours w lots of elevation, I use trail. If it’s a sucky climb and I just wanna get back to the top… Boost all day, baby!
A good informative video for newbies 👍👍
Thanks Calum!
Why do you not have giant ebikes on embn?
They are being paid that’s why...
Are you suggesting that this is just a big advert and not independent journalism?
How to I lock my Ebike when in town? Is Insurance a must? How loud should the motor be? How do I know if my Ebike needs servicing? Are women Ebikes different and why?
Great info many thanks :) lots to learn
I’m in the Arizona Desert and I have a Polygon still in the box in my truck. I’m waiting to get a 2” receiver put on the front of my truck before putting it together again. ( I rode it for a day then took it back apart and put it in the box could lock it up in the camper shell on my truck ). I’m a new e-bike rider. 😅
Nice video! Thank you! I might try to borrow an e bike and show my first impressions on my channel!
ANY lock or chain can be cut, especially if some fool is running around with a battery-powered high-speed grinder, so keep the bike in sight or inside of the vehicle. I insured my e-bike against theft anywhere in the world, I paid a LOT of money for the e-bike, no sense trying to save money by not having insurance. The controller will usually tell you when the e-bike needs servicing. Women e-bikes are often smaller and have curved top tubes. (All of this is just what I have learned from having an e-bike, I am certain that different opinions will vary. Have fun!)
Lol, thanks I'm a newbie to e-mtb (just converted from Enduro)
Welcome aboard! 🤘
Flat battery last night 🫡 good fun day out, though, so it was worth the pain of getting back up home 🏡
have you ever lost a battery while riding because of jumps etc..?
A best budget e bikes would be great to see very interested in getting one
My main question is the condition & usabilit6 motor/battery will be in 7-10 years when I can afford one
Thank you for the 🚴 information!!👍🏻
Hi there great video , just a question i know your not supposed too but can you derestrict a suntour rear hub motor
What is the best bike lock guys?. Just bought an ebike and want to hopefully keep it.
The bigger the better Dean! Check out this video from GMBN tech for a few ways to keep your bike safe at home and a few examples of locks
Be aware that some idiot with a battery powered high-speed grinder can cut through any lock., probably in less than 1 minute. When I can't keep an eye on my e-bike I'll probably remove the front wheel and stuff the whole e-bike in the car. Pain in the a@@ for sure, but e-bikes are a prime target for thieves.
With my Levo, i find myself switching the motor off altogether quite often lately. For instance on flat trails or roads or simply periods i just want to enjoy nature and drive slowly anyway. First thing i did when i got the bike was lowering the Eco Mode settings to 15 % assist with 30% peak using the app. Default Eco was just pushing a little too much for me. In Eco, i just want the extra weight of the bike to dissappear when im exhausted or a trail gets really demanding. Trail and Boost are for going steep upill or simply ... speeeeed and fun ... which are commenly the same thing :-D
My eco is set to off, I only use trail & turbo. This keeps the system running & keeps my flow without having to stop to start up again 😁👍
Why do you need an ebike if you enjoy the nature in riding slowly.
I ride my bike with the motor turned off and a Pygmy hippopotamus strapped to my back.
Does the motor being off add friction at the bottom bracket when pedalling or is it just the weight that makes it harder to ride?
Interesting, i learned quite a lot from this video, thanks:)
Nice gimbal work. Osmo?
My question
Would you add the same amount of psi to your fork on a 20 pound heavier e bike (than your regular bike )as you would if you were heavier by 20 pounds heavier around the girth , in other words does the weight distribution make a difference as to how much additional psi you put in your fork and shock?
For an eMTB and depending on the manufacturer and bike type, you'd typically want to go for a sag of about 20-25% of the stroke of the fork or shock. And, to get that sag, it will differ between bikes and riders.
Do any bike shops in Morzine hire out batteries?
I wish someone could put the best settings for the 2022 Giant reign E+ its confusing?
I try to stay in ECO go further and longer
Great vid.
Are you not running bar end plugs? Danger....
I think the Chinese is the best at eMTB. Have you ever seen the Bafang powered eMTB? 120mph on Chinese street, the biker was directly crashed to death. The motor is damn impressive though.
Hi just got my first e bike haibike hardnine 5 so far lovin it but can you answer one question pse once I reach max assistance speed 15.5 mph I find it feels as if the motor is restricting me almost holding me back sensation is this normal ?
Derestrict it, apply common sense/consideration to others, enjoy.
Exactly what a Chinese would do
@@NomadFM OP said apply consideration to others. Exactly what a Chinese would NOT do
Does anyone know how to connect a garmin 935 watch to the Levo controls
In Garmin store is a small app : ebike Field, author name, Jan Capek 👍
How much does a service cost on a mid drive e bike
Love your channel guy´s, went I bought my first one this week :-)
Excellent
Never had an error code when I turn my e8000 off and continue to ride .?????
Charge the battery when your solar panels are generating and its free.
Best Value For Your Money
Spare battery!? Great idea when a 625 watt battery costs over 1000 euros!
My ebike cuts power???
I recently got a 48 V rear 1000 watt
Dumb down factory to 750.
A 58 ah battery.
All I hook up is the motor wires and the battery. No ebike brake. I use mine no power. It flaps the breeze.
No peddle assist ither.
It ran fine a few days then the power cut out. checked fuse. OK
Replace same fuse. Power came on lights on.????
1 mile later the same musical fuse.
Then half mile then quarter the blocks.
It's getting worse and worse.
Got a clue?
Dont you get iritated from the motor noise ?
Check out this video on that topic! embn.me/HowLoudAreMotors
Conversely I find it a reassuring thrumming noise as it augments the input pedal thrust. Unless you lower the EMTB augmentation levels there’s little human grunting and huffing, so mechanical noise is more apparent.
If you have 4* assist, you don't go "4 times faster at a quarter of the effort".
You go twice as fast at the same effort, assuming your bike has the wattage. Ek = 1/2 mv^2
That is when you are going in a flat road at high speeds, when you are going uphill Ep=mgh, so it is 4 times fastes...
sharpen is turned up to 11 in this video
You sounded a bit puffed while walking.... Are you sure eMTB's keep you fit? ;) lol
Oof
Bosch dealers tells me that it's bad for the engine to drive in off mode.
Makes no sense if ur battery go flat u still got to pedal home
I ride my Trek Rail 5 (Bosch motor) around town like a regular 12-speed bike with the motor off.
If they called it an engine, I wouldn't listen any further. Motor.
Hmmm... washing the ebike requires using your head....I prefer a mild soap myself! 😉
You didn’t mention about the curse of e-MTB “drag”!. What gives?
derestricting removes the drag on Shimano e8000 system. You can ride it switched on, in "Off Mode" and it will ride like a normal bike. Good when you're riding with others without ebikes.
I'm so over seeing that scene of the guy charging the battery it's in every damn vid plus the amount of muc off advertising. This chs gone down hill
😂😂same
Taht Heybike looks FUGGLY
Wtf is your right hand doing?
New to emtbing? Don't buy a bosch motor bike, they are shit and will break.
The Bosch Gen4 Performance CX v2 motor is actually quite dependable.
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