It's nice, but the logo on the rear wheel is not perfectly horizontal, so I can't give it a super nice. Good try. If you want to try again, be sure to use our upload link.
The total weight was impressively light but we couldn't compare it to the previous TT bikes because you didn't tell us the frame size (unless I missed it). It looks like a small frame which may account for some of the lighter weight.
Nice, but I have the feeling the the bike is faster and lighter in spite on the disc brakes, not because of them. The engineers did a great job with it, but the bike would be lighter and more aero with rim brakes.
False. I worked at A18 for 4 years and it is in fact lighter AND more aero than the old E-118 Next. www.argon18bike.com/uploads/files/e118pro-final-vt.pdf
IMO, 11-30 is better than 11-28 (Shimano 11 speed version) in pretty much all situation. They are 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-28 vs 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30 Only last three cogs are different. And if you need to use 23 or larger at the back, it means you are climbing. If you climb normally you won't mind bigger jump as much as when you find the right gear at speed (and percentage wise, not tooth count wise, it's not exactly a big jump). Having lower gear to spare is useful.
🤑 Think that I might just be a little bit envious of Astana team now...! What a bike, still prefer a rim brake bike for the aesthetics but this disc equipped Time Trial bike is both a thing of beauty and a really functional bike. I have been wondering how wheel manufacturers would be able to overcome the problem of trying to put space for a disc rotor along with having a solid rear wheel but maintaining the weight and stiffness but those Corima wheels look the business! 🧐 Thanks guys and very much look forward to more Tech from the Giro!
this is a preference but i'd say it also should be that way for everybody. people say it's because of which side of the road you ride, i call bullshit. front brake on the left is an abomination.
Have you guys ever done a comparison between various bike frames to try and quantify for the consumer what makes a good frame regardless of the manufacturer? For road bikes in general I suppose, as well as across materials.
One can't say that discs are lighter or more aero than rim by comparing the total weight or drag with last year's model unless brakes are the only difference.
is that a new tacx water bottle? anyone know if it's available anywhere? I checked their website and it's not listed which makes me wonder if it's new.
E-118 I thought that was Yorkshire directory enquiries? Nice bike but think discs are a bit pointless on a discipline where you don't want to brake too often.
The iso speed system basically gives the Madone an extra tube, and an additional 80 grams of reinforcement was required for the disc brakes. I've never really loved Trek, but 8.4 kilos is surprisingly lean for all that. This bike is just brilliant though, I have no idea how they did it. Ultegra rotors too!
Samuel Hopely indeed the iso does add considerable weight to the bike. It's to make an aero road bike actually rideable, because normally the ride quality and comfort of such bikes is terrible, in my experience. But it doesn't make much sense to me... I ride a hand made, USA made Titanium racing bike, one of the best of its type if not the best. Comfort is obviously not an issue as it's Titanium and although it's in Ultegra and has no carbon parts other than the fork it weights 7.6kg. (Size 56) I saved about $4000 over the Madone and if I had spent that much money my bike would be closer to 6kg... so honestly I'm a bit perplexed why anyone would be stupid enough to buy a bike like the Madone? But I know a lot of people are. To me it's a made in China bike that is ridiculously heavy and only comfortable (maybe?) because they crammed it full of shock absorbers... that will probably be expensive to service and repair? Yes it's Aero, but if you want true Aero buy a TT bike right? And as 80% of the drag is the rider and 16% is your wheels how much more aerodynamic is a Madone over a normal bike? Dose it really make a difference to most people? And what happens when you ride a 8.4kg bike and you come to a hill steeper than 6%... like I say, I don't get it?
Why not compare the weight of this years disc brake model to this years rim brake model, if there is one? It’s good to know it’s lighter than the previous rim brake model but someone might want to go even lighter if this years rim brake model is lighter than the disc brake model.
I love the way he says it is much cleaner at the front end, conveniently ignoring the great lump of a disc and calliper at the hub. Swap for a rim brake and it will be more aero. Fact.
Absolutely love Corima wheels. In 2 minds with disc brakes being more aero as there's more mass at the hub if they made the same tweaks narrowing the headtube area and ran an integrated brake and a tune style tt skewer it would have less frontal mass to be honest I wouldn't be suprized if tt bikes go back to a proprietary 1" steerer, headtube and bar setup, it wouldn't be hard to get it stiff enough again now carbon manufacture has come so far since that was the norm.
@@oreocarlton3343 i'm with you on that, it's not as much of an issue with tri spokes but yeah you can't have radial spokes or a tiny hub axle with disc brakes.
I think using the 3 spoke probably helps limit the drag from using disc brakes as they can cope with the braking force, while normally spoked wheels need more spokes so are less aero. Think they sometimes find a few yaw angles the disc brake version is quicker at so they can say its better than the rim brake bike.
Possibly aerodynamics? These days, there's a trend for having wider spaces forks so there's less interaction between the spokes and the fork blades; the same maybe applies to the tyre and the fork crown?
@@CryWolfFilms It was said that disc brakes increase the weight by 500 grams (which already seems like a lot to me). It was also said that even with the disc brakes, this bike was weighing was much as a similar rim brake bike. So the question remains. It's not because of the disc brakes because the rim brakes bike is equally (relatively) heavy. And it's not because of the disc brakes because I mean in comparison with a 5-6 kg bike, which is 3 kg lighter.
yeah yeah, at least they admit that disc brake bikes are half a kilo heavier, and why compare it to last years rim brake bike, compare it to same bike with rim brakes
Awesome to see more disc TT bikes. The frames of most of the TT bikes look very similar though. Not much variation between brands as far as I can tell. Maybe they’ve all figured out aerodynamics.
Oreo Carlton Ok well it seems to me that they’re more aero, lighter, much safer, nicer to use, have more feel, look cooler.... But by all means, enjoy your rim brakes.
why arent bike brands using a rim brake at the rear and a disc at the front, surely thats the best of both worlds. discs are already heavy adding another disc cant help that. plus getting a disc disc is a nightmare for customers
I've looked into building a bike from scratch and the actual frames need to be stronger and heavier. It's not just the braking components. On average for a carbon from the disc version is at least 250g heavier.. it's a pity but I guess the extra braking forces need strengthening frames forks etc.
because it would feel absolutely weird having completely different bite points and power requierements for front and rear. also, levers are different for hydro discs and rim brakes. and no, setting and maintaining a disc is not a nightmare, its just different tech you need to be open for.
I don't care about the disc brake hype. A well integrated front rim brake and one mounted on the seat tube near the BB is gonna be more aero and lighter.
False. A18 used to have the aero caliper v-brakes behind the fork blades and it didn`t have enough stopping power, difficult to modulate, and hard to adjust for different wheel widths.
10 W at 50 km/h just on the brakes is bullshit I think; so is 500 grams weight increase with disc bikes (it's not that much), and so is 250 grams lighter than the rim brake version. The rim brake version must be a different technology frame then. Argon18 bikes always look great.
Well from motorsports i know that they need to keep the brakes at a certain heat for them to deliver sufficient braking. In wet races some tend to use steel rotors cause the carbons dont get into that optimal temperature window. Since you brake very seldom on a road bicycle that could be the problem.
Peeter Siitan also presumably the durability of carbon brakes may not be as proven and a team is unlikely to go for unproven tech as it’s just an unnecessary risk for them
200 gramms? the 160mm is 119gr and the 140mm is 99gr. so not that much to safe there. and i would think carbon just does not break very well unless its got some (some serious in fact) heat in it. in the wet, that would not happen on a road bike.
@@Digi20 Don't believe this is true. You are saying that carbon needs heat to have good breaking properties? Got anything to back these theories up? I think the opposite is true, Only carbon wears out after a long use probably. Heres some things they say: "More powerful and progressive braking , No vibrations, Ultra lightweight, Better resistance to high temperatures and exhaustion compared to conventional discs, Superior performance, Efficiency dry and wet".. They are in the big cycling expos, and becoming more popular. About the weight: ok not exactly 200g but 160-170g maby. Light disc brake rotors 32-38g depending on the size. That is 70g for a pair. Ultegra rotors 254g and dura-ace 236
@@siitan83 well its true for race-cars and high performance carbon carbon rotors. they basically dont work when cold, and need to be in their operating temperature range. ceramic brakes also have some problems with this.
Owen Chua they have a tradition of naming their bike with gases (eg krypton, nitrogen) and other elements (eg gallium). E-118, or element 118, is oganesson, a synthesized element. The 18 is the atomic number for Argon. I think they should definitely keep it.
That’s ca.700g less than Dumoulin’s new P5 disc!!?? Argon 18 has done a great job here 👍
Rob Belanger but maybe little bit slower🤔🤭
Mate Balogh well, lopez and dumoulin had the same time at yesterday’s TT 🤔
The Cervélo is ridiculously heavy, and I don't think TD was too hapy about that ytd
Dumolin won the 2017 World TT on an even heavier bike tho lol
Well to be fair, this Argon is at least two sizes smaller as well..
That Argon 18 looks beautiful and hyper nice!
Omaris Bhumiriady hyper fast moreover
@@zzhughesd Indeed she is!
It's nice, but the logo on the rear wheel is not perfectly horizontal, so I can't give it a super nice. Good try. If you want to try again, be sure to use our upload link.
Also the crank arm is pointed slightly up, definitely just a nice. Better luck next time
It's parallel to the chain though...
The junction box location is dope!
Damn that fade colour frame with that disc rear wheel.. SUPER NICE
The total weight was impressively light but we couldn't compare it to the previous TT bikes because you didn't tell us the frame size (unless I missed it). It looks like a small frame which may account for some of the lighter weight.
Gorgeous bike. I was sceptical of the time saving of 25 seconds from 10W, but the maths actually checks out (assuming a rider putting out about 400W)
Not often a fan of fade colour schemes but this one looks pretty dope!
I am awe-struck. Every inch of this bike is remarkable. Wow
Nice, but I have the feeling the the bike is faster and lighter in spite on the disc brakes, not because of them. The engineers did a great job with it, but the bike would be lighter and more aero with rim brakes.
plus one, you’re completely right. I
False. I worked at A18 for 4 years and it is in fact lighter AND more aero than the old E-118 Next. www.argon18bike.com/uploads/files/e118pro-final-vt.pdf
That paint job is sick
IMO, 11-30 is better than 11-28 (Shimano 11 speed version) in pretty much all situation.
They are
11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-28 vs
11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30
Only last three cogs are different. And if you need to use 23 or larger at the back, it means you are climbing. If you climb normally you won't mind bigger jump as much as when you find the right gear at speed (and percentage wise, not tooth count wise, it's not exactly a big jump). Having lower gear to spare is useful.
I don't agree. I like to use the big chain ring if the gradient is not too steep. Big jump at the back is not ideal for this situation.
Great looks and great functionality of the Argon bike! The only thing I am kinda struggling is the 3-spoke front wheel.
🤑 Think that I might just be a little bit envious of Astana team now...! What a bike, still prefer a rim brake bike for the aesthetics but this disc equipped Time Trial bike is both a thing of beauty and a really functional bike. I have been wondering how wheel manufacturers would be able to overcome the problem of trying to put space for a disc rotor along with having a solid rear wheel but maintaining the weight and stiffness but those Corima wheels look the business! 🧐
Thanks guys and very much look forward to more Tech from the Giro!
I love that is comes with a kickstand! And those handlebar streamers are dope!
Did you just use the left hand lever to stop the rear wheel :O
this is a preference but i'd say it also should be that way for everybody. people say it's because of which side of the road you ride, i call bullshit. front brake on the left is an abomination.
@@JayB-lz6yd could say tge same but the other way around. Its a matter of what you grew up with and neither option has any advantages.
JayB29 In America we are taught hands signals for turning with our left hands.
@@tonycrabtree3416 In the Netherlands we are also learned hand signals, right hand for right and left hand for left :D
@@JayB-lz6yd I guess you meant front brake on the right is an abomination!
these corima wheel sets are dope. i own bora one's but this is some next level stuff plus its a tt bike anyways
Ollie really love disc brake. Nice bike
Have you guys ever done a comparison between various bike frames to try and quantify for the consumer what makes a good frame regardless of the manufacturer? For road bikes in general I suppose, as well as across materials.
Argon 18 make great bikes!
supercool..my new favorite....when will some one copy the single sided fork or swing arm i wonder
Likely never since i doubt they are uci legal
Just beautiful
One can't say that discs are lighter or more aero than rim by comparing the total weight or drag with last year's model unless brakes are the only difference.
Their old black-white-red livery will be missed. Was snazzy AF.
disc with tri-spoked wheel
brilliant!
Majka was on a new disc Shiv for his TT run
his brake set up is left lever for the rear wheel, the british way!
the way it should be everywhere. motorbikes don't reverse it so why bicycles?? it's just an abomination.
The british way, also known as the wrong way ;)
Those corima wheels are hot!
Man Ollie you've reviewed just about every top bikes...i Wonder what is your favorite ??
Beautiful!
Stunning bike
is that a new tacx water bottle? anyone know if it's available anywhere? I checked their website and it's not listed which makes me wonder if it's new.
That’s a nice bike 👍🏼
Absolutley beauty!
5:12 Ollie's shades move up and down. How does he do that?!
Now that’s a very very super nice!
Crikey!
What glasses is Ollie wearing?
Back brake on left = oh sweet jesus ill be dead in first corner .
Well, that is the same as my set up. Thing is I can signal a left turn while breaking my front wheels.
This is something personal just like the saddle
FSA power box. Good gear that 😍
How did his glasses move @5:13?
The things we can do in my corner of the world!
the wheels wow
Oli, Were you in Italy ?
My 70s road bike weights 11 in stock. Still do not understand whats new they invent
Woah... The machine of a dream...!! 🇨🇦😉
Did he just used the left brake lever to stop the rear wheel??
They reckon? Couldn't find a scale, could they?
E-118 I thought that was Yorkshire directory enquiries?
Nice bike but think discs are a bit pointless on a discipline where you don't want to brake too often.
Tell that to Valverde during the 2017 Tour de France (Stage 1 ITT)
@@mposh Bad workman always blames his tools. Most other riders managed to keep it rubber side down.
@@mrstanhope1516 And Froome at this year's Dauphine
@@mposh Disc brakes wouldn't have helped him if he wasn't holding the handlebars.
Plug those huge crank spindle holes! Marginal gains, right?..
The new TREK Madone is supposed to be an aero road bike.... it's 8.4kg, this bike is fully aero and it's 8.3kg... makes you think.
TT bikes are often heavier.
@@rpx1979 exactly his point, they should be but this isnt
Corona wheels are insanely light though
The iso speed system basically gives the Madone an extra tube, and an additional 80 grams of reinforcement was required for the disc brakes. I've never really loved Trek, but 8.4 kilos is surprisingly lean for all that. This bike is just brilliant though, I have no idea how they did it. Ultegra rotors too!
Samuel Hopely indeed the iso does add considerable weight to the bike. It's to make an aero road bike actually rideable, because normally the ride quality and comfort of such bikes is terrible, in my experience.
But it doesn't make much sense to me... I ride a hand made, USA made Titanium racing bike, one of the best of its type if not the best. Comfort is obviously not an issue as it's Titanium and although it's in Ultegra and has no carbon parts other than the fork it weights 7.6kg. (Size 56) I saved about $4000 over the Madone and if I had spent that much money my bike would be closer to 6kg... so honestly I'm a bit perplexed why anyone would be stupid enough to buy a bike like the Madone? But I know a lot of people are. To me it's a made in China bike that is ridiculously heavy and only comfortable (maybe?) because they crammed it full of shock absorbers... that will probably be expensive to service and repair?
Yes it's Aero, but if you want true Aero buy a TT bike right? And as 80% of the drag is the rider and 16% is your wheels how much more aerodynamic is a Madone over a normal bike? Dose it really make a difference to most people? And what happens when you ride a 8.4kg bike and you come to a hill steeper than 6%... like I say, I don't get it?
Very nice!
Do the muc off Bike pressure washer!
So beautiful 😍
Did I miss tire size?
Rear break with left break lever? Wow
Pady That’s the standard in Europe!
Cameron Duff I was going to say, “they drive on the left side”
Cameron Duff in the UK yes, but not in Europe.
And why the drivetrain on right side in UK? 😂
Pady Hand signals for turning is the reason for brakes. The drive train doesn’t matter at all.
Is there a GCN video on how to disassemble and reassemble a road bike?
Tristan Tiong why
@@CrankCyclingChannel Idk how to
nice bike
I want one!
Why not compare the weight of this years disc brake model to this years rim brake model, if there is one?
It’s good to know it’s lighter than the previous rim brake model but someone might want to go even lighter if this years rim brake model is lighter than the disc brake model.
Maybe this year model is a disc specific design?
250g lighter than the old E-118 Next www.argon18bike.com/uploads/files/e118pro-final-vt.pdf
I love the way he says it is much cleaner at the front end, conveniently ignoring the great lump of a disc and calliper at the hub. Swap for a rim brake and it will be more aero. Fact.
False. Because the fork crown area is cleaned up to offset the rotor.
now let's see what Sam Pilgrim can do with it.
Absolutely love Corima wheels. In 2 minds with disc brakes being more aero as there's more mass at the hub if they made the same tweaks narrowing the headtube area and ran an integrated brake and a tune style tt skewer it would have less frontal mass to be honest I wouldn't be suprized if tt bikes go back to a proprietary 1" steerer, headtube and bar setup, it wouldn't be hard to get it stiff enough again now carbon manufacture has come so far since that was the norm.
Discs are never aero due to front wheel asyimetry. Frame is faster because its updated, not because of discs. Dont believe the hype.
@@oreocarlton3343 i'm with you on that, it's not as much of an issue with tri spokes but yeah you can't have radial spokes or a tiny hub axle with disc brakes.
I think using the 3 spoke probably helps limit the drag from using disc brakes as they can cope with the braking force, while normally spoked wheels need more spokes so are less aero. Think they sometimes find a few yaw angles the disc brake version is quicker at so they can say its better than the rim brake bike.
I think the mechanics use those electric power tools to unlock the wheels rather than "an allen key", don't they?
nice video
UK brake set up not Euro????
Bella bella 👍🏼👍🏼
if i would ever steal a bike, this is the one.
Dario Cataldo 25th after the first stage complained of an out of true rear disc rotor
😁
ua-cam.com/video/AHxq7-JVb0I/v-deo.html ??
That's hard to believe, any excuse is valid I guess when you think you can win the TT...
Gilles Cordier Don’t get your disc brake panties in a wad...
lol
Is it the brakes fault or bad setup? I di my own discs and they dont rub so a pro tteam has no excuse.
8.3kg? Prove it with a scale
WTF. Are the brakes swaped?
That's cool
Why is tire clearance important on a time trial bike?
Possibly aerodynamics? These days, there's a trend for having wider spaces forks so there's less interaction between the spokes and the fork blades; the same maybe applies to the tyre and the fork crown?
Shortcuts?
I’m guessing aerodynamics too. Bigger gaps you have would allow air to pass more freely.
Wider tires for rolling resistance.
For those gravel TT, now that's a niche market ;) !
Really looks like the BMC Timemachine TM01
Astana and wolfpack tyres- I think they are the only UCI pro team to use those tyres. Very much alone wolf in that regard
Rear brake in left hand? Why?
Exactly!!!!! WTF Was wondering if I'm the only one who caught that b.s.
same here
Where would it be
Seems like Cataldo rides motorbikes a lot as well
Copy and paste the cervelo video for the weight and disk breaks
This is more like Road Bike geometry than TT Bike geometry. Look at the saddle how forward back is.
Why are these bikes so heavy? Extra stiffness for time trials?
Disc brakes
@@CryWolfFilms It was said that disc brakes increase the weight by 500 grams (which already seems like a lot to me). It was also said that even with the disc brakes, this bike was weighing was much as a similar rim brake bike. So the question remains. It's not because of the disc brakes because the rim brakes bike is equally (relatively) heavy. And it's not because of the disc brakes because I mean in comparison with a 5-6 kg bike, which is 3 kg lighter.
Aero tube shapes are heavier than round tubes.
a TT Bike called "E-......", couldn't be more suspicious
soon the e-bikes will be uset in peloton when they started to get even more slimmer
All of Argon 18's TT/Tri bikes start with E-### since 2008 and the E-114. Because all their road models are Element names.
yeah yeah, at least they admit that disc brake bikes are half a kilo heavier, and why compare it to last years rim brake bike, compare it to same bike with rim brakes
Lol exactly. It'd be lighter if it was the exact bike with rim brakes
They did - www.argon18bike.com/uploads/files/e118pro-final-vt.pdf
They updated the frame and made it faster, NOT that the disc brakes make it faster! Hate “claims”
Obviously correct, I hate to hear these half truths out there to confuse buyers
But the discs mean you can brake later, keeping more of your speed for longer. So, it is faster.
Left hand rear brake?? Really?
My reaction as well.... :'(
you are abominations guys. just deal with it. front = right. that's it.
my bike too. Front right, rear left.
Awesome to see more disc TT bikes. The frames of most of the TT bikes look very similar though. Not much variation between brands as far as I can tell. Maybe they’ve all figured out aerodynamics.
How is that awesome? Discs on TT are totally pointless and just prove how far companies will go for the hype
Oreo Carlton Ok well it seems to me that they’re more aero, lighter, much safer, nicer to use, have more feel, look cooler....
But by all means, enjoy your rim brakes.
@@christill discs are safer but are less aero and more weight, safety isnt the no1 thing in racing...
Oreo Carlton Did you watch the video? XD
@@christill I did, bike might be more Aero, but it isnt because of discs
A “scruffy” dura ace di2 junction box😂😂😂
8.3kg!
Left brake for rear wheel? Weird.
Wow
why arent bike brands using a rim brake at the rear and a disc at the front, surely thats the best of both worlds. discs are already heavy adding another disc cant help that. plus getting a disc disc is a nightmare for customers
I've looked into building a bike from scratch and the actual frames need to be stronger and heavier. It's not just the braking components. On average for a carbon from the disc version is at least 250g heavier.. it's a pity but I guess the extra braking forces need strengthening frames forks etc.
because it would feel absolutely weird having completely different bite points and power requierements for front and rear. also, levers are different for hydro discs and rim brakes. and no, setting and maintaining a disc is not a nightmare, its just different tech you need to be open for.
I don't care about the disc brake hype. A well integrated front rim brake and one mounted on the seat tube near the BB is gonna be more aero and lighter.
False. A18 used to have the aero caliper v-brakes behind the fork blades and it didn`t have enough stopping power, difficult to modulate, and hard to adjust for different wheel widths.
Why does a TT bike need better brakes?
Ask Chris Froome at this year's Dauphine and Valverde during the 2017 Tour de France Stage 1 ITT
Please ride it :(
10 W at 50 km/h just on the brakes is bullshit I think; so is 500 grams weight increase with disc bikes (it's not that much), and so is 250 grams lighter than the rim brake version. The rim brake version must be a different technology frame then. Argon18 bikes always look great.
“10 watts could make all the difference” - no shit
How much is that at 35km/h?? Some one? :p
5 watts
I wish that I can get a new free bikes.
Rear brake dragging there pretty badly . Few watts there no ?
Why don't pro riders use carbon discbrake rotors? and save 200 gramms? anyone?
Well from motorsports i know that they need to keep the brakes at a certain heat for them to deliver sufficient braking. In wet races some tend to use steel rotors cause the carbons dont get into that optimal temperature window. Since you brake very seldom on a road bicycle that could be the problem.
Peeter Siitan also presumably the durability of carbon brakes may not be as proven and a team is unlikely to go for unproven tech as it’s just an unnecessary risk for them
200 gramms? the 160mm is 119gr and the 140mm is 99gr. so not that much to safe there. and i would think carbon just does not break very well unless its got some (some serious in fact) heat in it. in the wet, that would not happen on a road bike.
@@Digi20 Don't believe this is true. You are saying that carbon needs heat to have good breaking properties? Got anything to back these theories up? I think the opposite is true, Only carbon wears out after a long use probably. Heres some things they say: "More powerful and progressive braking
, No vibrations, Ultra lightweight, Better resistance to high temperatures and exhaustion compared to conventional discs, Superior performance, Efficiency dry and wet".. They are in the big cycling expos, and becoming more popular. About the weight: ok not exactly 200g but 160-170g maby. Light disc brake rotors 32-38g depending on the size. That is 70g for a pair. Ultegra rotors 254g and dura-ace 236
@@siitan83 well its true for race-cars and high performance carbon carbon rotors. they basically dont work when cold, and need to be in their operating temperature range. ceramic brakes also have some problems with this.
Argon 18 should ditch their number 18 and be renamed to just Argon. The numbers are always confusing me
Owen Chua they have a tradition of naming their bike with gases (eg krypton, nitrogen) and other elements (eg gallium). E-118, or element 118, is oganesson, a synthesized element. The 18 is the atomic number for Argon. I think they should definitely keep it.
Wtf is this ad for disc brakes
Lol the aero is overblown these days.