It's called a triple ron, and in some rulesets the round is considered a draw if someone gets triple ronned because, obviously, most of the times it would end up making the unlucky sod go bust.
+HPDre I guess so would I, but then I also wouldn't riichi with a rather cheap hand. 9p was double-dora at the time of riichi as well, so if people weren't waiting on dora already, by now they sure would try. The player was lead, too, so it's not like that one han woulda helped. If you're lucky, you'd get it from tsumo or, if you got the 9p, change wait/go betaori.
Everyone at least had 6 dora and Yakuhai. Talk about unfortunate. Right when that second dora indicator flipped I thought he was gonna get a kan call from someone with the other three, but this was even more unlucky.
@Denizar You know, this is the last hand of the game, and our 'protagonist' is in last place, so I can see the 'why bother with defense' attitude. If that 3-man came on a self draw, it would be a 30 fu 4 fan hand, enough to win the game. If the leader discarded the 3-man, it would also have led to a victory. So, it was a risky move on the last hand of the game--that led to an epic loss. Like I posted earlier, it would be good example for mahjong drama.
@ReikaSasaki It's called Janryumon, though it's not worth playing in my opinion. A Kan is just four-of-a-kind. Like a Pon, but with four tiles instead of three. It's worth more points and each Kan flips over a new dora indicator.
At the beginning, I was thinking "nothing special." When the kan is called an a 8-pin is revealed as the dora indicator, I was thinking "if another kan is called..." When the second kan was called, I was thinking "I knew it! Someone will ron off that player's 9-pin and score big." At the triple ron, I was speechless.
@ReikaSasaki yes, a Kan essentially makes one tile invisible. The new dora indicator is as well as the old one, it doesn't replace it. A Kan lets you take a tile from the end of the dead wall, add a new dora indicator, and is worth four times as many minipoints as the equivalent Pon would be.
@BlacxPhoenix Yeah, I feel the same way about JanRyuMon. Some days I have really good luck and can pull off lots of Mangan and Haneman hands, and some days I just have atrocious luck and can't even get anything close to tenpai. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out they've built some sort of "nagare" (flow) mechanism into the game that calculates your luck at certain times.
Haha this is great! As the game goes by and the 8 dots dora indicators reveal themselves you can see where this is going, when the player picks the 9 dots tile I was like "hah, now this is it!", but when the three other players simultaneously declare ron, I must admit I started hysterically laughing :D
@ReikaSasaki Once it's declared the Kan just counts as a Pon as far as the number of tiles go. The extra tiles in the Kan don't make a difference to the hand and you don't count them. That's why even if you make a Kan closed in your hand you have to declare it (unless you want three tiles to make a pon and the other tile to be used in a chi), so that you can take the extra tile out of your hand and set it to one side.
is it worth holding it to KAN or just discard the 4th card if you want menzochin? or are the minipoints worth it? new to richi as a chinese player, but of course if you declare kan your hand is now open?
@@pokiis3of10As in mahjong and poker, it all depends on your opponent and your own hand. Kan rewards players who declare richi because of the extra uradora and if you've watch the anime Saki, you'll also know of Rinshan Kaihou. If you're playing damaten though, discard is better. Also, your hand is open only if you take discards (aside than the winning tiles).
very harsh... I usually play headbump rules so this usually isn't a problem for me, still 9th turn with both south and west most likely ready given the calls they made earier it was probably a mistake to call riichi, sure had it have paid off thats a mangan - tanyao riichi ipeikou with either oneshot or tsumo but he probably should have played defensively against south and west by that point... at the very least not called riichi so he could hold on to risky tiles
Everyone saw that 9-pin coming, right? But I bet that nobody has expected that all of the other 3 players are waiting tanki for that 9-pin XD But riichi on double dora with 9-pin being a completely live tile, that surely wasn't very wise.
I rarely riichi on a single wait especially if I can ron off the hand without declaring, I always wait till I can get double waits or get my hand more expensive while having the flexibility to play defensive. Not sure if correct though as I see people riichi no matter the situation a lot of the times
Two of them had a red 5 tile, red 5s always give one dora. In sets that include 3 red tiles, each of the 5s in the different suits will have 3 normal and 1 red.
To add to this, there are also variations that say a double ron is allowed, but a triple aborts the game. The guy in the video didn't have the pleasure of that abortive rule.
I just noticed the triple dora already and jsut thought... Well, better not draw it... And I just didn't expect those other three all on a single wait like that. Well, That iipekou inside wait was pretty risky to riichi after all.
Yeah, my understanding is that most rule-sets have a draw for a triple ron. Fact is that was an extremely dangerous tile to deal. Sure, he'd riichi'd and could do anything about it, but that's just one of the risks you take in declaring riichi. I tend not to mind the double and triple ron rules just because in dealing into one you've usually been pretty stupid in the tile you've discarded and deserve the extra payout.
Oh wow, he walked right into not one, but three baimans. What are the chances of triple dora coming up like that anyway? I was expecting hotei raoyui, personally.
Heck, the first discard was an indicator of the player not considering defense at all. It's not usually this epic, though. I mean this is worthy of mahjong drama, with commentators and everything.
the quality videos of this game is always garbage for some reason. never 30+ fps...wonder why since the game itself runs smoothly... Also there's a major screw-up in this game: when someone deals a tile that another player can call on then theres a pause in the action and you can tell that someone has the option to call on it by looking at the turn-indicator in the middle... so stupid. (the turn indicator should change to next played and then pause...)
It's the same version of mahjong. What happens when multiple people call ron on the same is a very minor rule difference and differs depending on house rules basically.
I don't think it can be cancelled, in a lot of cases instead of cancelling they just go to whoever comes first (like in order of next person to draw etc). At least that's how most Chinese variations play.
Bonus stick, you mean the Riichi calls ? The priority is depending on who is playing next. In this case, the person on his right is the next one to play, so he would take all the Riichi's. Well, it should be.
Dora is 8-pin: Hmm, okay. so a terminal, huh... second dora is 8-pin: O_O...;;; (then realizes that 9-pin is a "live" tile) Third dora is 8-pin: HOLY SHIII----- Now, if someone called Kan on the 9-pin you threw away, I'd cut my wrist, because that's automatically a sanbaiman
JanRyuMon, for me, has a very poor random generator. Seriously, I had a week that 1 and 9 man tiles always show up at the start whenever I play a 3-person game. What is the possibility for that? I was > 10 games consecutively. It seems that if JanRyuMon is on your side, you are almost guaranteed to win easily. On the other hand, if the game doesn't like you, no matter how skill you are, you will lose. The game will keep dealing shits into your hands.
I wonder how many thumbs downs that post has, and why would someone actually read it, hah. I still don't feel myself safe in calling Kan when someone else can get dual dora off it (and I can't), seriously. ... I do it when I'm in tenpai, though. Just because. I like getting the chance to do a Rinshan Kaihou.
I don't get what you are asking and if you are making fun or not. I was asking - if they all have 2 dora tiles and the dora indicators are three, they should all have 2x3 = Dora 6, but two of them have Dora 7 - why?
Ok i'm a mahjong noob. But this seems to be a different type of mahjong then in the anime Akagi? Since I thought it wasn't possible for more then 1 person to go out in a single round?
LET'S FOLLOW THE TREND West is a noob who called Kan on yakuhai when someone else could still declare Riichi. YOU DON'T CALL KAN ON YAKUHAI UNLESS IT'S DORA OR THE 4FU DIFFERENCE WILL ACTUALLY DO SHIT FOR YOU
I don't understand something - there are 3 dora indicators, all 8-pin, so the dora would be 9-pin. They all call ron on a 9-pin and each have a pair of 9-pin in their hands, but two of them have Dora 7? Why?
pretty dangerous riichi especially when 9 dot was a double dora (became a triple later on) with zero discarded or in open sets, i would've played it silence with simples and double run with the opportunity to bail if it got sticky. Even if the hand was only worth 2 han, since the game was still relatively early i assume.
Worst luck, not really. Drop a live tile (not dropped yet), a triple dora and very close to the end of the case is basically a suicide. Break your hand, forget the tempai, it is much better than to offer a triple dora to anyone.
It's called a triple ron, and in some rulesets the round is considered a draw if someone gets triple ronned because, obviously, most of the times it would end up making the unlucky sod go bust.
If that happened irl, I'd be suspicious that I was set up. I don't know how, but that'd be danged suspicious.
+HPDre
I guess so would I, but then I also wouldn't riichi with a rather cheap hand. 9p was double-dora at the time of riichi as well, so if people weren't waiting on dora already, by now they sure would try.
The player was lead, too, so it's not like that one han woulda helped. If you're lucky, you'd get it from tsumo or, if you got the 9p, change wait/go betaori.
Those dora bra! Thats some washizu Iwao shit right there
Everyone at least had 6 dora and Yakuhai. Talk about unfortunate. Right when that second dora indicator flipped I thought he was gonna get a kan call from someone with the other three, but this was even more unlucky.
@Denizar You know, this is the last hand of the game, and our 'protagonist' is in last place, so I can see the 'why bother with defense' attitude. If that 3-man came on a self draw, it would be a 30 fu 4 fan hand, enough to win the game. If the leader discarded the 3-man, it would also have led to a victory. So, it was a risky move on the last hand of the game--that led to an epic loss. Like I posted earlier, it would be good example for mahjong drama.
Even more amazing. All three players had that dora pair wait. Oh the pain.
The real Akagi would have done it. And he'd have won.
@ReikaSasaki It's called Janryumon, though it's not worth playing in my opinion.
A Kan is just four-of-a-kind. Like a Pon, but with four tiles instead of three. It's worth more points and each Kan flips over a new dora indicator.
At the beginning, I was thinking "nothing special."
When the kan is called an a 8-pin is revealed as the dora indicator, I was thinking "if another kan is called..."
When the second kan was called, I was thinking "I knew it! Someone will ron off that player's 9-pin and score big."
At the triple ron, I was speechless.
ITT: people miss the point of the video and try to show off relatively basic mahjong knowledge
@ReikaSasaki yes, a Kan essentially makes one tile invisible.
The new dora indicator is as well as the old one, it doesn't replace it. A Kan lets you take a tile from the end of the dead wall, add a new dora indicator, and is worth four times as many minipoints as the equivalent Pon would be.
@BlacxPhoenix Yeah, I feel the same way about JanRyuMon. Some days I have really good luck and can pull off lots of Mangan and Haneman hands, and some days I just have atrocious luck and can't even get anything close to tenpai. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out they've built some sort of "nagare" (flow) mechanism into the game that calculates your luck at certain times.
56000 ten (+1000) on one riichi ... triple ron on a triple-dora tile ... kinda unlucky guy
I feel bad for you ...
I have a Mahjong game on my Japanese N64. My dad plays it until now, he is 68 years old now...
Haha this is great! As the game goes by and the 8 dots dora indicators reveal themselves you can see where this is going, when the player picks the 9 dots tile I was like "hah, now this is it!", but when the three other players simultaneously declare ron, I must admit I started hysterically laughing :D
The "atama-hane" (head bump) is part of an older rule set, so it doesn't apply anymore nowadays.
@ReikaSasaki Once it's declared the Kan just counts as a Pon as far as the number of tiles go. The extra tiles in the Kan don't make a difference to the hand and you don't count them.
That's why even if you make a Kan closed in your hand you have to declare it (unless you want three tiles to make a pon and the other tile to be used in a chi), so that you can take the extra tile out of your hand and set it to one side.
is it worth holding it to KAN or just discard the 4th card if you want menzochin? or are the minipoints worth it? new to richi as a chinese player, but of course if you declare kan your hand is now open?
@@pokiis3of10As in mahjong and poker, it all depends on your opponent and your own hand. Kan rewards players who declare richi because of the extra uradora and if you've watch the anime Saki, you'll also know of Rinshan Kaihou. If you're playing damaten though, discard is better.
Also, your hand is open only if you take discards (aside than the winning tiles).
very harsh... I usually play headbump rules so this usually isn't a problem for me, still 9th turn with both south and west most likely ready given the calls they made earier it was probably a mistake to call riichi, sure had it have paid off thats a mangan - tanyao riichi ipeikou with either oneshot or tsumo but he probably should have played defensively against south and west by that point... at the very least not called riichi so he could hold on to risky tiles
Ah I see, because in akagi a similar thing happened but only one counted, the other was simply overruled. It depended on order who was first.
Everyone saw that 9-pin coming, right? But I bet that nobody has expected that all of the other 3 players are waiting tanki for that 9-pin XD But riichi on double dora with 9-pin being a completely live tile, that surely wasn't very wise.
WOAH! The tree were waiting for the same tile! XD
That's one of the most unluck things i've ever saw in mahjong XD
awesome video :D
I rarely riichi on a single wait especially if I can ron off the hand without declaring, I always wait till I can get double waits or get my hand more expensive while having the flexibility to play defensive. Not sure if correct though as I see people riichi no matter the situation a lot of the times
Two of them had a red 5 tile, red 5s always give one dora. In sets that include 3 red tiles, each of the 5s in the different suits will have 3 normal and 1 red.
RON! RON! RON! RON RON! ROOOOOOON!
-maniacal laughter-
Washizu
@OscarAVV dora indicators* the dora itself is the 9 pin.
I always thought in multiple rons the win goes to the next wind seat via headbump
It's a rule variation. Triple ron is played out, as you see in this video for this game.
To add to this, there are also variations that say a double ron is allowed, but a triple aborts the game. The guy in the video didn't have the pleasure of that abortive rule.
The software is Janryumon. Don't actually play it myself though.
Look at the scores, he needed the 1han from Riichi.
Sometimes it's worth the risk, you know.
I just noticed the triple dora already and jsut thought... Well, better not draw it... And I just didn't expect those other three all on a single wait like that. Well, That iipekou inside wait was pretty risky to riichi after all.
Hell, even changing the draw order to skip people's turns is useful.
Yeah, my understanding is that most rule-sets have a draw for a triple ron.
Fact is that was an extremely dangerous tile to deal. Sure, he'd riichi'd and could do anything about it, but that's just one of the risks you take in declaring riichi. I tend not to mind the double and triple ron rules just because in dealing into one you've usually been pretty stupid in the tile you've discarded and deserve the extra payout.
That's the new rule in JRM3. Also, it only works in League Mode.
Holy CRAP. Triple ron is bad enough, but with all three opponents with baiman?! This is struck-by-lightning tier unlucky here.
Oh wow, he walked right into not one, but three baimans. What are the chances of triple dora coming up like that anyway? I was expecting hotei raoyui, personally.
Ouch.. this i pretty much a normal game for me though. I play by the rules of Murphy's law.
Single wait for a 3 man. He was going for an ii-pei-kou for an extra yaku.
it depends if the rules double or triple ron is in effect
This is the sort of thing SD Gundam Mahjong would pull... if it could.
Heck, the first discard was an indicator of the player not considering defense at all. It's not usually this epic, though. I mean this is worthy of mahjong drama, with commentators and everything.
@BlacxPhoenix That's Mahjong. And same thing happens to me in Tenhou.
I miss Janryumon, but at least we have Mahjong Soul.
@OscarAVV =p. I was confused at that too when I first started playing. Haha. Anyway, that 9 pin is darn valuable, xD.
in some Riichi Mahjong rules a triple ron means a draw game...
@ReikaSasaki
If you want to ask me more stuff, go ahead, though I suggest UA-cam PM would maybe be a bit more efficient than video comments :P
Good grief.
When I saw that chu-pin materialize, with dora-3 minimum on the board... I visibly winced.
Looking at the avatars... it was 3-dudes calling ron on 1-girl, huh?
the quality videos of this game is always garbage for some reason. never 30+ fps...wonder why since the game itself runs smoothly...
Also there's a major screw-up in this game: when someone deals a tile that another player can call on then theres a pause in the action and you can tell that someone has the option to call on it by looking at the turn-indicator in the middle... so stupid. (the turn indicator should change to next played and then pause...)
The genius who *died* into darkness
It's the same version of mahjong. What happens when multiple people call ron on the same is a very minor rule difference and differs depending on house rules basically.
I don't think it can be cancelled, in a lot of cases instead of cancelling they just go to whoever comes first (like in order of next person to draw etc). At least that's how most Chinese variations play.
@kylone1 Oops, it was the second round. Yeah, no defense was a poor choice.
Bonus stick, you mean the Riichi calls ? The priority is depending on who is playing next. In this case, the person on his right is the next one to play, so he would take all the Riichi's. Well, it should be.
He went Riichi so early in the game. Such bad luck.
Just for the record, it isn't me playing in this video. I just found it and thought I'd share it.
OR unless you would get a sankantsu/suukantsu.
It's called jan ryu mon (3 probably)
OMG, all 3 were waiting to go Ron on his discarded Dora, yes? Lol those Dora indicators.
Whoa a simultaneous Ron from everyone! Like... getting your ass kicked hard, really hard.
@Sephallia ahh, yes you're right , im still learning :P
I guess you know now that you should not riichi on a single hell wait for a cheap hand when the board is that dangerous
I... what? Getting hit by 3 baimans with everyone on a 9-pin tanki wait, which happens to be a triple dora? Mahjong is scary.
Holy- Three rons at the same time?!
oh, I think it's unpleasant to be caught up like that D:
Jeez...that's just ridiculous...triple Baiman.
56000 in one hand, wow that sucks, not even for a good hand either.
No need to call riichi here, it was already tanyo. Ok it's very unlucky, but that's the close wait that killed him
I love Mahjong, I always play it on the computer, I would like to play it offline too
Dora is 8-pin: Hmm, okay. so a terminal, huh...
second dora is 8-pin: O_O...;;; (then realizes that 9-pin is a "live" tile)
Third dora is 8-pin: HOLY SHIII-----
Now, if someone called Kan on the 9-pin you threw away, I'd cut my wrist, because that's automatically a sanbaiman
Looks like the dealer got it. The question is, what would have happened if the dealer wasn't one of the people who declared ron?
@Sephallia Yeah xD, that was really unlucky for her >.
Who gets the riichi stick in this case?
JanRyuMon, for me, has a very poor random generator. Seriously, I had a week that 1 and 9 man tiles always show up at the start whenever I play a 3-person game. What is the possibility for that? I was > 10 games consecutively.
It seems that if JanRyuMon is on your side, you are almost guaranteed to win easily. On the other hand, if the game doesn't like you, no matter how skill you are, you will lose. The game will keep dealing shits into your hands.
I wonder how many thumbs downs that post has, and why would someone actually read it, hah. I still don't feel myself safe in calling Kan when someone else can get dual dora off it (and I can't), seriously.
... I do it when I'm in tenpai, though. Just because. I like getting the chance to do a Rinshan Kaihou.
Or even if you need the dora, now that I think of it.
I don't get what you are asking and if you are making fun or not.
I was asking - if they all have 2 dora tiles and the dora indicators are three, they should all have 2x3 = Dora 6, but two of them have Dora 7 - why?
Do you perhaps know where I can dowload this game? It looks superb :)
hahaha what a bad luck, not only he hit the opponent hand, but he eat triple ron
Ok i'm a mahjong noob. But this seems to be a different type of mahjong then in the anime Akagi? Since I thought it wasn't possible for more then 1 person to go out in a single round?
I'd die if that happened.
these kan dora, i dnt even
2:09 - THEY SAID THE THING
wait, if all 3 of them declared ron, who gets the bonus stick? or is the bonus split between those who won?
4:09 - The triple ron...
So many dora in each of those hands, poor guy. xD
@fallguyzero it's JanRyuMon, though personally I think Tenhou is better for online mahjong playing.
LET'S FOLLOW THE TREND
West is a noob who called Kan on yakuhai when someone else could still declare Riichi. YOU DON'T CALL KAN ON YAKUHAI UNLESS IT'S DORA OR THE 4FU DIFFERENCE WILL ACTUALLY DO SHIT FOR YOU
Triple Baiman. This sort of thing just does not happen in real life.
Them dora indicators...
That was... amazing.
I don't understand something - there are 3 dora indicators, all 8-pin, so the dora would be 9-pin. They all call ron on a 9-pin and each have a pair of 9-pin in their hands, but two of them have Dora 7? Why?
pretty dangerous riichi especially when 9 dot was a double dora (became a triple later on) with zero discarded or in open sets, i would've played it silence with simples and double run with the opportunity to bail if it got sticky. Even if the hand was only worth 2 han, since the game was still relatively early i assume.
How the
What is this
I don't even Mahjong
Worst luck, not really. Drop a live tile (not dropped yet), a triple dora and very close to the end of the case is basically a suicide. Break your hand, forget the tempai, it is much better than to offer a triple dora to anyone.
Um, Ouch? Guy guy got hit hard on the last turn (even though he had terrible luck throught the game) :P
56000 lost in one hand? That's just wrong.
What was the player's winning tile?
Increible, yo no hubiese declarado richii, pero de todas formas ¿Quien demonios espera que algo como esto suceda? solo falto Hatei. x
Wow, that was just... wow
If this happened to me, I would cry in a corner. Then whine to people.
Where can I download this game? Thanks in advance!!