I hope to see a full review of this and a intensive Battery test is a must,because there are some reviews that the previous model only last up to 2hours.
now imagine PX13 gets 5070/5070ti, 64gb option and 120hz screen, and perhaps vapor chamber (being wishful here) ... this would be one insane system and the best the professional and gaming worlds could combine! Heck, I would pay a top $ for this config!
I am very excited for this laptop with all its upgrades. I have Z13 with RTX460, and I absolutely love the device. It's by far the best Windows laptop I've owned - so powerful and portable. I tend to use it without the keyboard, mainly for Photoshop and 3D work. Two major weaknesses, though: 1. Only 16gb RAM, not always enough, and 2. The battery life is truly atrocious, I get 2 hours max, I always need to make sure I am plugged in. Speakers are tiny as well.
Ben, thanks for covering the pen support...nobody else is mentioning it in their reviews. One problem with the previous Z13s was poor palm-rejection. Have you tested that at all? Keep up the great work! Sold my old Z13 w/4050 because of the i9/battery/palm rejection...this new model looks very compelling!
You're most welcome. Gotta keep my creative community informed on the important details. :) Ah, Great question! I'll have to test and address that in the future review of the ROG Flow Z13. Thanks!
Nice review! I have always been a fan of Flow Z13. Love the upgrades and can't wait to see your performance test. As I am thinking about upgrading my Flow Z13 2022 to this.
Ben I just finished watching this video once again great job very informative everything I needed to know I do want to purchase it when is it available
Thanks for touching on the pen. Virtually no other channels did. I'm eyeing this device for 3D scans for my 3D printing. Having an Einstar Pro HD or Creality Raptor X attached to this would be both portable and powerful enough to support the full scanning speed, plus touch-ups in Adobe Sculpt or Fusion 360 using the pen would be a great workflow.
I gotta know if Asus allows the new Z13 to run the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 at the max 120W for full performance. I know this will eat a 70Whr battery for lunch but still want to know how gimped the GPU performance is if it can't draw full wattage.
Thanks for the review. Are you going to put your hands on the new Zephyrus g14 line? Especially, the video editing opportunities there. I just watched the comparisons between g14/2024 and MBP m4 pro on your channel and I believe that the new g14 could make a change in the final verdict between both of them.
I have the zenbook duo, and I honestly have no idea why yours clicks when you bend the keyboard. I always have mine on my lap when using dual screen modes and never have that issue, but im glad they use similar keyboards. Makes me want this even more. Great video. I find the pen odd to use. Lol, it just feels weird writing on glass.
I had to replace the keyboard on my 2023 version. Asus used some weak glue to put the to halves of the plastic strip with the pins on the part that attaches to the tablet. They keyboard continued to work, but it felt weird to have a keyboard that is coming apart. I do not think that part is designed well. Luckily Asus warranty still applied and they changed it. Another issue with the 2023 version was the battery. That thing, on BatteryInfoView, deteriorated vry quickly. In a couple of months, it could only chrge to 76% of its original capacity.
Think the Flow Z13’s CPU can handle the top XG Mobile and max out its potential in heavy games and apps? Also, how hard is it to tear down for cleaning?
Ben do you thing 64 go of ram can be useful for after effects and première. As now we can allocate RAM. Technically it is better than the 8gb of vram of the rtx 4070?
i would like much more a convertible as powerful as this, same weight and size... in my opinion a convertible is much more all around than a tablet that just attach a keyboard and annoy you all the time.
Fyi it goes up to 128g memory, you can allocate 96g vram GPU, whichi is insane! Even rtx 5090 comes with only 24g vram on laptop. You can run really huge model!
The product spec page only shows 32GB but then again it shows $9999 so it's not quite ready to launch. Just checked my local Asus webpage. Hope to get at least the 64GB one to run ComfyUI using ROCm WSL.
@@elfenstar the problem is the Z13 doesn't have TB5 for some reason (it's weird, it doesn't have a dGPU, so why not use some of those 16 lanes for a TB5 controller). USB 4 is basically a slightly less powerful TB4, you need the bandwidth from TB5 to not bottleneck the heck out of a 5090. The Flow was always marketed as gaming 2 in 1's that were able to be used with an eGPU.
Looking to replace my X13 2022 with this. I hope the Radeon 8060S can throttle down in power properly since there's no Mux chip to switch off the GPU completely.
Yes, since it's not a final production model I am unable to post about the performance. Can't wait to get the final production model for testing in the future.
Ben, Matthew Moniz says that it's not the Best for editing 4k. He notice some frames drop. Can you just confirm. Thanks Ben I'm afraid to sell my Proart px13 rtx 4070 for the Z13
I disagree, but I've not been able to test a full production model.... which I will when I get one. I would wait to sell until reviewers are permitted to post final benchmark results.
Disappointing that they seem to have gone for a 2230 again for no reason :( That just limits our options and makes the cost of upgrading much larger. Still probably the best tablet on the market.
any news on a flow X13 refresh? after almost 9 years with my current laptop thats the model i'm waiting for, unless someone else releases a compelling 2in1 with a potent current gen chip and gpu power in this ballpark. PX13 is the other option but its still very expensive, 60hz and ideally i'd like an rtx 5000 refresh there too now. it'll accompany for the next 8+ years after all.
@@nijatismayilov5406 By mid range as in the 1200-1700$ price range. Not really an Asus fan so I don't know which Zephyrus you're referring to, as some of them can go as high as having a 4090 in them. Basically, it's as powerful as a traditional gaming laptop with the same specs. If your Zephyrus has a 4050, 16gb of ram and same processor, then they should be equal in term of performances.
Lol! ah, good point. I meant it as the biggest NEWS, or biggest game changer. The anticipated capabilities of this device are something to be reckoned with. :)
I hope to see a full review of this and a intensive Battery test is a must,because there are some reviews that the previous model only last up to 2hours.
also please add a battery life test in sleep mode.
Yeah, I'm hoping for much better battery life as well
this tablet can play youtube video near 18 hour,,,but it is for gaming,production
Just bought a PZ13, thinking about returning and waiting for this...
And when you buy Z13 there will be anouced X13 with portable coffe machine :D
@@MacySpitfireLOL so true. Hard decisions. Need to stay off UA-cam during CES
@@nabeelmohi571 is the PZ13 OLED?
@@blackpanthertchallalem8522It is, 13,3” 3K OLED.
@@blackpanthertchallalem8522İt is oled but 60hz
That quick access to the ssd is genius. This needs to be an industry standard for all gaming consoles and devices.
I'm gonna wait until the battery test is done
This versus the ProArt PX13. Definitely interested in how they stack up for photo editing.
You bet I will!
now imagine PX13 gets 5070/5070ti, 64gb option and 120hz screen, and perhaps vapor chamber (being wishful here) ... this would be one insane system and the best the professional and gaming worlds could combine! Heck, I would pay a top $ for this config!
You just described a Zephyrus lol@@digital11337
I am very excited for this laptop with all its upgrades. I have Z13 with RTX460, and I absolutely love the device. It's by far the best Windows laptop I've owned - so powerful and portable. I tend to use it without the keyboard, mainly for Photoshop and 3D work. Two major weaknesses, though: 1. Only 16gb RAM, not always enough, and 2. The battery life is truly atrocious, I get 2 hours max, I always need to make sure I am plugged in. Speakers are tiny as well.
Ben, thanks for covering the pen support...nobody else is mentioning it in their reviews. One problem with the previous Z13s was poor palm-rejection. Have you tested that at all? Keep up the great work! Sold my old Z13 w/4050 because of the i9/battery/palm rejection...this new model looks very compelling!
You're most welcome. Gotta keep my creative community informed on the important details. :)
Ah, Great question! I'll have to test and address that in the future review of the ROG Flow Z13. Thanks!
it would have been great if they made the screen OLED
Nice review! I have always been a fan of Flow Z13. Love the upgrades and can't wait to see your performance test. As I am thinking about upgrading my Flow Z13 2022 to this.
I think it will be a worthy upgrade! Thanks for commenting.
You can already tell it’s a worthy upgrade.
No pen included?
Is that you Peter Parker.
Ben I just finished watching this video once again great job very informative everything I needed to know I do want to purchase it when is it available
will there be compatible cooling units??
Thanks for touching on the pen. Virtually no other channels did. I'm eyeing this device for 3D scans for my 3D printing. Having an Einstar Pro HD or Creality Raptor X attached to this would be both portable and powerful enough to support the full scanning speed, plus touch-ups in Adobe Sculpt or Fusion 360 using the pen would be a great workflow.
I ended up with the 4060 z13 coming. I have the revo metro x, same use case as you pretty much!
I gotta know if Asus allows the new Z13 to run the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 at the max 120W for full performance. I know this will eat a 70Whr battery for lunch but still want to know how gimped the GPU performance is if it can't draw full wattage.
Max of 80w in manual mode.
Thanks for the review. Are you going to put your hands on the new Zephyrus g14 line? Especially, the video editing opportunities there. I just watched the comparisons between g14/2024 and MBP m4 pro on your channel and I believe that the new g14 could make a change in the final verdict between both of them.
I will DEFINITELY get my hands on the new one for full testing when it is available. Thanks for watching. :)
When can we expect benchmarks ?
Can you connect the asus egpu to it ?
I have the zenbook duo, and I honestly have no idea why yours clicks when you bend the keyboard. I always have mine on my lap when using dual screen modes and never have that issue, but im glad they use similar keyboards. Makes me want this even more. Great video. I find the pen odd to use. Lol, it just feels weird writing on glass.
I had to replace the keyboard on my 2023 version. Asus used some weak glue to put the to halves of the plastic strip with the pins on the part that attaches to the tablet. They keyboard continued to work, but it felt weird to have a keyboard that is coming apart. I do not think that part is designed well. Luckily Asus warranty still applied and they changed it. Another issue with the 2023 version was the battery. That thing, on BatteryInfoView, deteriorated vry quickly. In a couple of months, it could only chrge to 76% of its original capacity.
I wanna see its video editing performance especially in premiere
If only this was OLED, it wouldve been perfect.
ips more durable tho
what is the spec for for the HDMI and can it output 180Hz ?
This means the current gen is about the same performance as the last gen?
Is it 1.2kg with or without keyboard?
Hi! Is the 1.23KG of the 2025 version including keyboard? How much is the device alone?
1.20 Kg + 0.39 Kg (Weight of keyboard)
@@eVV0lf woah, only 200gr less than g16 oled... but 13"...
@kiosh It is probably still the lightest laptop compared to its performance. The bad thing... the minimum TDP and the price.
Think the Flow Z13’s CPU can handle the top XG Mobile and max out its potential in heavy games and apps? Also, how hard is it to tear down for cleaning?
Ben do you thing 64 go of ram can be useful for after effects and première.
As now we can allocate RAM. Technically it is better than the 8gb of vram of the rtx 4070?
Yes, very useful!
@BenGKaiser thanks 🙏👍
Someone know if minisforum is going to announce the minisforum v4?
When is it coming out? I need to know if it comes out before January ends.
In Europe they say on march
@tsunarun oh well, I guess I'll get a 2024 model on Best Buy's clearance sale then
WE WANT SEE GAMING FPS ON THIS SUPER TABLET
$2k and no OLED display
Ben Always on the top 👍
Nice preview 👍
Ben what you recommand for editing this one or the Proart Px13 with rtx 4070 ?
Most awaited device in 2025.
Does it come with a stylus?
No, it does not.
@BenGKaiser thanks
Is the igpu performance samw as 4060 or 4070 laptop?
It's insane... not just PR garbage. Trust me.
@@BenGKaiseris it powerfull as the rtx 4070
I wonder what it would do for programs like Flight Simulator 2024
Wait you already have the laptop when it was just announced😂
It's a sponsored ad 🤷🏻
i would like much more a convertible as powerful as this, same weight and size... in my opinion a convertible is much more all around than a tablet that just attach a keyboard and annoy you all the time.
Im very curious to see battery life on this
Guys pls tell me should i buy 2024 legion pro 7i in the sale for 2.5k or wait for the 2025 model??
BEAST
Fyi it goes up to 128g memory, you can allocate 96g vram GPU, whichi is insane!
Even rtx 5090 comes with only 24g vram on laptop.
You can run really huge model!
The base model is £2000 so the top-tier likely very expensive for a 2-in-1.
The product spec page only shows 32GB but then again it shows $9999 so it's not quite ready to launch. Just checked my local Asus webpage. Hope to get at least the 64GB one to run ComfyUI using ROCm WSL.
no egpu like the previous?
I think you meant dGPU. You could hook up an eGPU tho.
Considering the performance of the dgpu, I doubt they would bundle with their new egpus, which run off thunderbolt 4 & 5
@@elfenstar yes, but having the option to buy it separately and use it would be cool.
@@S85B50Engine it’s not out yet, but the 5090 should be out around the same time as the Z13. Crazy price though 😅
@@elfenstar the problem is the Z13 doesn't have TB5 for some reason (it's weird, it doesn't have a dGPU, so why not use some of those 16 lanes for a TB5 controller).
USB 4 is basically a slightly less powerful TB4, you need the bandwidth from TB5 to not bottleneck the heck out of a 5090.
The Flow was always marketed as gaming 2 in 1's that were able to be used with an eGPU.
looks like an upgrade to that surface laptop studio 2. Would you happen to know if the Microsoft Surface Slim Pen 2 is compatible with this device?
Can't say I've seen Philips screws on laptop before
has ASUS fixed the keyboard? known issue that the ribbon in the keyboard eventually fails and you can't use it unless its down flat.
Looking to replace my X13 2022 with this. I hope the Radeon 8060S can throttle down in power properly since there's no Mux chip to switch off the GPU completely.
No performance test, just fyi. That said, this is super sick and I'm interested if the price is right.
Yes, since it's not a final production model I am unable to post about the performance.
Can't wait to get the final production model for testing in the future.
@BenGKaiser Hi, how does it compare to a Flow X13? Love your videos! You do great work.
Ben, Matthew Moniz says that it's not the Best for editing 4k. He notice some frames drop. Can you just confirm. Thanks Ben
I'm afraid to sell my Proart px13 rtx 4070 for the Z13
I disagree, but I've not been able to test a full production model.... which I will when I get one.
I would wait to sell until reviewers are permitted to post final benchmark results.
@BenGKaiser thank you Ben 🙏
Now I'm waiting for your complet review 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Price? Release in Europe when?
It's at least 2100£ if that helps
Europe for Mars 2399€ et 2499 pour le + 395 Max
We still have diving board tracks pads in 2025 🙄😩😭
Can you compare it with the proart px13?
You bet I will!
Especially the 4060 or 4070, if you can get it, performance in gaming and creative workloads vs this.
Disappointing that they seem to have gone for a 2230 again for no reason :( That just limits our options and makes the cost of upgrading much larger. Still probably the best tablet on the market.
any news on a flow X13 refresh? after almost 9 years with my current laptop thats the model i'm waiting for, unless someone else releases a compelling 2in1 with a potent current gen chip and gpu power in this ballpark. PX13 is the other option but its still very expensive, 60hz and ideally i'd like an rtx 5000 refresh there too now. it'll accompany for the next 8+ years after all.
Is the nebula display OLED like the G14?
Nope, IPS
What about xg mobile port!
Doesn't need it anymore. New xg mobile devices will be thunderbolt 5 usbc starting with the 5090
I thought they may have switched to thunderbolt 4
@Mitch_1991 this laptop doesn't have any thunderbolt 5 or USB 5!
Only two usb 4, and this isn't Goog for Connect Egpu
@@liamcollinson5695the XGM 5090 requires TB4 at least.
For max performanceit should be thick, heavy and have loads of heat sink
When will ASUS ROG FLOW X 13 will be released
Still no news at this moment.
@@BenGKaiser t q
If this had an OLED screen, I wouldnt care what the price was, but the lack of an OLED option is a huge L
No XG mobile support kinda a downgrade from my 2023 one
They are getting rid of the port. New XGM are Thunderbolt 5 usbc
You took the words right out of my mouth. YES, NEW XG Mobile is T5 and going to be awesome!
What if OP already has an XGM 4090 and wanted to just upgrade the Z13? That was the whole purpose of the XGM line.
@@volcalstone i do so its kinda a waste of money to buy a whole new laptop and a whole new XG mobile
And they ain’t cheap
IPS screen, FINALLY
What was it before?
Are they saying 4060-4070 Mobile or 4060-4070 desktop performance?
Mobile Version.
@@BenGKaiser so it has the same graphics performance as the 2023 version?
The price for this pc is expensive because it does not include extending GPU.
Sure it does. The latest xg mobile 5090 and 5070ti will work with the thunderbolt 4 of this
I dont care about the Z13... what about the X13? Any news?
No news on the X13. :(
@@BenGKaiser really weird, but I dont think they will discontinue that line. Maybe we get a refresh later this year?
Video starts at 6:40
i returned the old one because it legit died after just 1 solid hour xD
maybe this one is better :]
Is this as powerful as a traditional gaming laptop?
I only have the 2023 version, but yes, it should be on par with most mid range gaming laptop of around the same generation
depends on the power they allow to the chip.
@@lamvutran9345 Do Zephyrus Series count as medium range gaming laptops?
@@nijatismayilov5406 By mid range as in the 1200-1700$ price range. Not really an Asus fan so I don't know which Zephyrus you're referring to, as some of them can go as high as having a 4090 in them.
Basically, it's as powerful as a traditional gaming laptop with the same specs. If your Zephyrus has a 4050, 16gb of ram and same processor, then they should be equal in term of performances.
@@lamvutran9345yeah I see it but if you don't mind why are you not a fan of Asus? Do you have any other suggestions above Asus?
the third video ive seen. none of them will state the ram.
I Want a 128 Ram
I just hope they have a not that gaming design
2025 and still using IPS not Amoled-Oled????
How a 13 inch laptop is the biggest???
Lol! ah, good point.
I meant it as the biggest NEWS, or biggest game changer.
The anticipated capabilities of this device are something to be reckoned with. :)
no oled 120hz , laptop 1000$ but screen old
Your videos are too much like Dave2D, you talk just like him
I've never heard this before, but It's an honor to be compared to Dave!
THE UNPRACTICAL GAMING LAP….HELD
First !