Such a stupid design. It's not like it's an esthetically super clean design where a panel would "ruin" the look (like the bottom of a laptop needs to be smooth and seamless anyway). It probably saved them five cents per laptop.
Makes me wonder if laptop should come with some plastic or rubber pads that can be swapped with the default ones ,do they really get any air from that 1 mile-meter gap left ?
@@Assassin5671000 Often times no, this is a big part of why some laptops get way to hot. The ones that don't have additional ways to pull air. My TUF FX505 for example has a vent on the top and a vent on the back that air can be pulled in.
I have the 5800/3060 version of the same machine. Opening it is a pain, but, if you are gentle the clips are fine. I've had mine open three times and no broken clips.
Yah..next thing you know they're gonna pull a Samsung phone and glue it all together...because who cares about user serviceability right...😌😏. Planned obsolescence..... Laptop battery dead? Need more RAM? Oh well..looks like you gotta give us more money. Drain your wallet and fill them landfills!
Yeah, if only glory holes where the norm on laptops. It would make upgrading and fixing stupid OEM design decisions so much easier. Plus then you wouldn't have to brutalize their products as much... maybe they are masochists :D
I don't understand why Asus hasn't hired you and Dawid for product development yet. Also..... your videos are getting very close to NSFW with these titles 😂😂
Hopefully its not intentional, like Apple does with their products. we should all have the "right to repair" items we own. my MSI laptop (w/1660ti) luckily comes with 2 sticks, but its mounted on the keyboard side of the motherboard. UGHHHHHHHHHH. love the video tho! like always!
If you pull up task manager, you can see how many ram slots are in use. If it was soldered on it would say 1 of 1 channel or 2 of 2. With an empty slot it will say 1 of 2 in slots used.
I don't even understand breaking the clips can create a gap when there's 11 screws holding the panel on. You should be able to break every single one and have it still fit tightly.
Also it allows for you to tie the end of that cable to a leg of a cooling stand, so when you lift the laptop up to put in a bag, you can leave the power adapter end in place and it wont fall behind the desk (along with other cables you may want to leave in place). It's much harder to do with a straight on connector. I'd always choose a 90 degree over straight on.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You fit the sponsors in very well... Others channels totally feel like hard CUTS to clip in their ads... Yours flow better, music vid ect... They dont make me quick skip past..... like most "Populour" channels... where you see then cut and paste.... clash of ..... whatever click bait Game sponsor... Appreciate you Dawid!
If you need to have substantive skills to be able to open a laptop without breaking it just to add a RAM simm (or any other "user serviceable part") -- that's a major design flaw.
@Dawid Does Tech Stuff the datasheet 5:12 says it's an 8-core Ryzen 5 5600H. The sticker on the laptop 2:37 says it has a six-core CPU. Also here 5:16 it indicates a six-core CPU. ???
@@Chris-6768wv It clearly says “3.3GHz octa-core AMD Ryzen 5 5600H” in the first time stamp. You should try new glasses, or re-read what you thought you read.
I would much prefer the angled connector on the back or anywhere almost, straight ones tend to stick out and act like a lever and it's a great way to break a port which probably is solder to the mainboard.
I have last year's version of this laptop. i7-10870H and RTX 2070, which cost $1300USD. It had 2x8GB@3200MT/s. My version does have a glory hole and has 3 MVNe slots. I upgraded to 32GB of RAM and added 2x 2TB NVMe's for a total of 5TB of NVMe storage. It's a great little machine, runs cool, and is plenty fast for my needs.
Even my 1991 Amiga computer(it was a microcomputer where the entire machine, including motherboard, floppy drive and later a hard disk was housed inside the keyboard for plugging into a standard TV via RF cable, a really common configuration on low price gaming computers back then) had a glory hole for putting RAM and an expansion card in. They have no excuses in 2022.
Not sure how much of an issue this is for other people, but the screen colors are absolutely terrible to the point I returned the 5900HX/3060 version. All the colors are extremely washed out , (reds orange, blues teal, etc) and no contrast at all. Ended up going with an Eluktronics Max-17 for the same price
@@joelthenoob9868 There is no way to tweak the software, it's a limitation of the low color capability of the panel. If i recall correctly its 77% of SRGB. Also 20ms+ response times
@@MaxTheCenturion ok, some gaming laptops I have worked with have completely adjustable colour. I haven't worked with one of these recent Rog laptops. It was a suggestion
@@joelthenoob9868 Most do have good settings! I just wanted to save someone the sadness I had when I started it up for the first time. You can even see the pink ROG logo in the video that's supposed to be red on start up LOL
4:22 Oh thank God, I can relax and enjoy the rest of the review now. Was wondering what the heck Dawid meant in the title. xD Great review, sir. Definitely agree on the clips, at all points.
If only this laptop opened like the Legion, but I don't feel like giving Lenovo credit for their repairability right now because I am very salty about the whole CPU locking thing as it directly affects me. Every one of my main PCs has been a beast with various Xeons from old workstations all around a decade old at the time.
I'm with you 100% on the need for a upgrade access panel or a revision on the bottom plate that is not so horrible to open. I would be pissed off to have to go through all that to upgrade ram, storage, etc...
I own this laptop with a slightly different configuration. I had to open it because the stock Mediatek wifi card was crap, and I replaced it with an Ax200 from Intel. I was careful while opening it but still managed to break a clip too 😅
I am quite surprised that the thing is almost glued together, considering the optional ssd upgrade and especially the necessary ram upgrade. -I also enjoyed the Honey music video, which i may or may not have already turned into a ringtone...
My bet is that the internals and case are designed by two different departments. The hardware team was trying to make something mostly good within their allotted budget, margin, and other requirements. Where as the case design team said “let’s look good to management by cutting an extra part that needs tooling/assembly, coming in under our budget, and screwing over the hardware team’s efforts.” Management also probably said, “Yea and that will help prevent most people from seeing the terrible RAM configuration we saddle them with because RAM is expensive and hard to get a good margin on.”
@@Pies_By_Arvid The one stick ram in laptops have bin going on for alot of years... it's a good thing Dawid and others are shining a light on it. Yesterday i decided to inspect and order parts to upgrade an old ultrabook i bought in 2012, when i realised, it too only had 1 stick of ram...🤦🏻♂️ ...but yeah, it might be exactly what you are saying, about 2 departments working on each part, and the department manager having bin a little to easy, to persuade going along with the 2 separate design teams ideas.
I get the same problems with mine. I bought one with a ryzen 9, 8 cores, 300 hz 1080p monitor so the bottle neck is real 😂. I’ve been getting very worried recently because I got a 4K monitor and my cpu has been pushing 90c but hearing you I’ve gotten some confidence back, thank you. I’ve torn mine open a few times now and I don’t remember anything falling off and I was pretty cautious on a clean table. I woulda cried if something fell off mine I’m just getting into PC gaming and have had so much trouble but loving it overall.
I have a now dead Asus G1S and I loved how all the upgradeable components had separate lids for quick access. Just a couple screws and you're in, no prying required.
I think you may have given the term "Glory Hole" a whole new meaning. Some of your viewers are going to innocently use that term to describe access to a computer. You're a funny guy and I like watching your videos for a bit of light entertainment rather than a tech tech channel that can be a bit dry. Added bonus - sometimes I actually learn something.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who places importance on being able to open the laptop with one hand. It just smacks of quality when you can easily open the lid of a laptop
Was at a coffee spot listening to your teardown and had my headphones in at a pretty reasonable volume. Anyway, I dropped my phone, pulled out my headphones while scrambling to catch my phone, and then 8:35 - 8:41 happened. Yup, time to leave the coffee shop.
I like this dude for reviews throughout the ram configurations and full specifications of what to buy on the ram. More like this please i'm gonna share your page dawid salute! Btw make nvme ssd and ram tutorials too.
Clipping coupons, the great American pastime. With all the money that ASUS have, if they are cheaping out on not having a glory hole at least they should design the case to open only by removing screws.
Hey, that's the laptops we had to buy at work for our programmers because we literally couldn't find any workstation laptops on a short notice, except I chose the Ryzen 9 version with a RTX 3060 and 16GB of RAM. I chose that model specifically because the RAM and SSD weren't soldered, unlike a lot of laptops in that price range, and because it seemed to have a decent cooling system. That's actually the first 165Hz screen I tested, I liked it so much that I bought one for my personal computer, even if my RX580 isn't to best to use it.
I own this laptop build with rt3070 from release date 02.2021, and cant say anything bad about it. It works great! Screen , battery, performance, keyboard, plugs, hinge, build is great! Not slim but compact enough! Theres something totaly wrong with your settings if you have 60% gpu usage, my mashine works 100%, thottles a little on gpu side, but still can pull of 50% more performance and fidelity then my Playstation 5!
This is designed to never be user serviced. Glory hole at the minimum, being able to completely take the bottom off without fragile clips and I/O in the way would be best.
I like the angled power cable. Uh, all you have to do is turn it toward whichever way the power source is. If it comes straight out the back it can limit your laptop placement as well as more wear on the cord, as every power cord phone owner knows
8:20 I recently got a Legion 5 15ACH6H with 5600H and RTX 3060, with "store-upgraded" RAM to 2x8GB sticks... and first thing I had to do after receiving it was open it myself because the store managed to break off three small plastic pieces when opening it and left them rattling inside XD On top of that they upgraded crappy 8GB 1rx16 stick, with second 8GB 1rx16 stick instead of replacing both... so I ended up having to replace the sticks myself with proper 2rx8 sticks, that with Ryzen can give even 10-20% gain in some games compared to garbage 1rx16 ones. Still though Legion 5 ACH6H is amazing offer for the price(Especially now when it's on sales due to new versions with Ryzen 6XXXH CPUs coming out, which provide relatively small performance upgrade, and demand much more expensive DDR5 RAM...), and it has fully powered RTX 3060, something that ASUS almost fooled me with since I planned to buy a TUF laptop with RTX 3060 at first before discovering them using low wattage version of it that's almost 15% worse XD
I do miss the good old days when laptops came with small removable panel cutouts on the bottom for both RAM and HDD swaps. I don't know if I would use the same terminology for them as Dawid did, but those were handy.
Back in the day this was a necessity for a slightly different reason, though. HDDs were prone to fail, for example. I remember buying HDDs, installing them at home, having them fail within a day and returning them to the store up to three times. It was a similar story with RAM, even with new laptops (shipping and handling in particular as well as non-ideal storage conditions where reasons this would happen). To be perfectly honest, all this is just a symptom of the times. Way back when (e.g. 10 to 15 years ago and earlier), you'd buy your PC stuff (and laptops) in a brick and mortar store an just have a store technician handle upgrades (they'd usually do it for free if you bought the upgraded parts there). This also meant that it was often retailers who were offering different configurations instead of manufacturers, so small upgrades had to be easy. Ever since online retail took over, it's the manufacturer that configures your machine and they want you to buy the upgrade from *them* instead (with a considerable mark-up). In light of this manufacturers today don't care about how difficult upgrades are, unless the target market is business customers.
I go to college and one day I went to go use the bathroom and I left my laptop at a table. As you can guess someone came up and took it. Unfortunately the guy never got caught. 2022 has been off to a lovey start lol
Something to add here! Upgrade the ram to x8 instead of x16 if you can. This can sometimes make huge performance difference, because x16 is much denser thus increasing the timings which can slow the computer down. LTT made video on that
Ive had Asus Laptops for all of my life and they are always extremely painful to disassemble and you slowly get desensitized to the cracks when opening it.
What the heck I’ve had the exact opposite experience. Which laptops have you had? My Q550LF, Q304UA, and G14 were all super easy to open. I’m disappointed they decided to make the laptop in the video so annoying to open.
Dawid! The reason some companies say "IPS-ish or IPS - type panel" is because LG displays owns the trademark for IPS so other display manufacturers have to compare it to IPS and can't outright say its IPS
I actually bought one of these a couple weeks ago. There is a 300Hz with dual channel memory version (the one I got), it’s actually incredible price to performance value.
Same. Got the G15 advantage on a deal at best buy US $1500..(November?) just in the last month I think I saw they had $1400 or $1450!! 300hz display, 8/16 core 5900HX RX6800M, the 16 gb ram they put in is Single rank 2 dimms but dual rank or Dimms with tighter timings will increase the performance around 15% meaning you still gotta open the damn chassis
Wait they’re selling a laptop with a 3050 and a 300Hz display? Or does it have a better GPU with your model? I can’t imagine the 3050 could run anything at even close to a consistent 300 fps.
The Legion 5 definitely needs a glory hole too. It's kinda' the same design and was more of a PITA than it needed to be just to install an additional m.2 drive. And for the record, I used to be field engineer for HP and Dell. I've opened thousands of laptops. So while I can open it without breaking anything, I agree that this can be designed better, and other laptops are. But at least there are two physical slots for RAM. Getting real sick of these gaming laptops with one DIMM soldered to the board.
You're mixing laptop and desktop SKUs. Laptop GPUs are always slower than their desktop counterparts. Sure, you can complain about the laptop 3050 being slower than desktop 2060, but that's totally missing the point.
return to heavy ass thick laptops, i want SUBSTANCE for my money. Hinges always tended to last longer when they had to be tough enough to deal with all the weight
I won't ever buy another ASUS laptop. Everyone I know with ASUS laptops has disposed of them in like a year because they have battery issues, trackpad issues or start falling apart. I also forgot to mention that ASUS has been caught repeatedly now killing the performance of Ryzen laptops by shipping them with single channel RAM configurations, and choking off airflow. This laptop seemed to have thermals under control, but in the past there were identical Intel and AMD models, and the AMD models had plastic blocking off a lot of the vents on the bottom. I can't remember if it was you or another UA-camr but they took a dremel and removed the plastic and then it didn't overheat anymore.
My mom's old laptop still works fine. It's ancient. And by works fine, I mean, works despite at least 1 major fall due to our dogs pulling it off the table while charging, and requires constant feeding by virtue of only having wall power. But besides that? It still held up super well. I recently got her to get a new laptop, which she admits definitely now that it was necessary, but the old one was super great. So I can't deny it wasn't falling apart, BUUUUUUT that was no fault of Asus' product.
I’ll only buy Asus laptops. Ive owned 3 in the past 13 years and all of them are still working fine. My current laptop is a 2020 G14, and before that I had a Q550LF and a Q304UA. The only issue I’ve ever had was a hard drive failure on my Q304UA but thats a super easy upgrade/fix once I swapped it with an SSD.
I can see the purpose of the 90 degree power plug. If you lift the laptop from the front leaning the back against the table top,, this prevents you front putting as much leveraged pressure on the port and breaking it.
i have the G15A version of this laptop. to say it rips is an understatement. the bottom panel does kinda suck but after opening it once, its not too bad now. really happy with the build and its nice to see the cassis doesnt change too much.
I do agree that the clips is balls and I do not know why include them when it have screws, but the technique to remove them is start at the front and when you reach the ventilation on the side, use the guitar pick to push the vents out and down. I had a hard time myself.
I agree about opening the back- it's not an overrecation. Not just to upgrade the RAM, but all laptop fans need occasional cleaning every now and then- some more than others depending on use patterns and environment.
I opened my one to upgrade the ram and i accidentally screwed the bigger screws through the front of the laptop, now i have two big bumps on either side of my trackpad lol 😣
I doubt it would make much of a difference, but did you use the original RAM stick with one G.Skill stick, or did you use both of the new sticks? Also I assume you tried Windows power settings. Fun vid as always!
Braver man than me.. you kept going after the first bad cracking sound while taking the back off.. I would have just put the screws back in and used it for web browsing.. its crazy how hard some manufacturers make it..
mate you were the only UA-camr that has been able to get me to watch a honey ad . man that so unexpected haha haha. i very often skip them straightaway. send you greetings from Colombia not Columbia hahaha.ome
i've taken apart like 10-15 new rog laptops and never had the plastic clips broken. you just have to unscrew the bottom right screw will will pop things off nicely
To be fair, it looks like you missed a screw. At 4:33 mark, it looks like there is still a screw in the chassis in the lower right hand corner, right above the blue plastic pry bar. other than that, I really like your videos.
Dawid, you are on point here. I've upgraded a similar laptops SSD and RAM and now my laptop is held together with duct tape. The heat from the laptop melts the glue of the duct tape and then it starts drifting and covering the ports
This laptop also having ventilation in the top when opened, is honestly a good idea. It was enough to have vents on the sides, back, and bottom…. But also the top?? Like…. Damn.
I have an older version of this laptop with a GTX1650 in it and it’s one of the most comfortable laptops I’ve ever used. Not super powerful but for I do with it, it gets the job done well
Dawid, I had Dr Pepper come out my nose, all over the inside of the work truck windshield, as soon as I read the title. Way to go bro, that was hilarious as hell 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I havent finished the video yet but that is one hell of a title weedman
ok
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Yeah, talk about putting yourself out there
I felt it best summarized my experience with the laptop. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff you don't say
I notice that with how the cooling is, where the ram is and the SSD slots are it could all be covered with one L shaped panel.
Such a stupid design. It's not like it's an esthetically super clean design where a panel would "ruin" the look (like the bottom of a laptop needs to be smooth and seamless anyway). It probably saved them five cents per laptop.
For sure! It would have been so easy.
Makes me wonder if laptop should come with some plastic or rubber pads that can be swapped with the default ones ,do they really get any air from that 1 mile-meter gap left ?
@@Assassin5671000 Often times no, this is a big part of why some laptops get way to hot. The ones that don't have additional ways to pull air. My TUF FX505 for example has a vent on the top and a vent on the back that air can be pulled in.
everyone: rtx 3050
dawid: glory holes
glory holes or rtx 3050 that's a tough choice🤣
Ive been a Pc tech for cose to 30 years , probably a bit longer. FEW PEOPLE, could open a case like that without breaking clips.
Are those clips meant to be broken as a security feature? Or it's just bad design?
I know right! They are so easy to break.
I have the 5800/3060 version of the same machine. Opening it is a pain, but, if you are gentle the clips are fine. I've had mine open three times and no broken clips.
@@OtterlyInsane seems you have talent
@@ulrichkalber9039
Or a bit of mechanical sympathy.
If you change the profile to manual in armoury crate you can adjust the power limits their maximum. May help gain some more performance too.
I think it would just thermalthrottle after that
I did try that and it seemed to perform the same as Turbo mode. Thanks for the suggestion though.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Did u play with laptop plugged to charger? Most windows laptop lose like 70% of their performance :/
@@stolczus7280 Yes. It was plugged in. Next silly question.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I got the same problem with my pc since a year:S really tried everything, nothing worked..
1:35 - Unboxing
2:20 - First Impressions (Design, IO, Display)
3:50 - Teardown (First Attempt)
5:07 - The Specs
6:02 - Firing it up and Testing Games (8 GB RAM)
8:06 - Teardown (Second Attempt)
10:19 - Testing Games (16 GB RAM)
12:10 - Final Thoughts
Thanks timestamp guy
So where's the glory hole?
Legend
What laptop is this?
@@derex47 ROG Strix G15
"I'm going to finish testing it and then I'll break it" 😂
Dawid should make a t-shirt that says that...
Sigh, remember those days, when a laptop came standard with ports to the RAM, the HD drives and the battery was removable. 😩
The battery is still removable it just takes a bit more work
Ram ports are standard in gaming laptops
It could have been way worse. They could have just soldered it all down.
Yah..next thing you know they're gonna pull a Samsung phone and glue it all together...because who cares about user serviceability right...😌😏. Planned obsolescence..... Laptop battery dead? Need more RAM? Oh well..looks like you gotta give us more money. Drain your wallet and fill them landfills!
Yeah, if only glory holes where the norm on laptops. It would make upgrading and fixing stupid OEM design decisions so much easier. Plus then you wouldn't have to brutalize their products as much... maybe they are masochists :D
Anna go look at some monitors or something
I don't understand why Asus hasn't hired you and Dawid for product development yet.
Also..... your videos are getting very close to NSFW with these titles 😂😂
Hopefully its not intentional, like Apple does with their products. we should all have the "right to repair" items we own. my MSI laptop (w/1660ti) luckily comes with 2 sticks, but its mounted on the keyboard side of the motherboard. UGHHHHHHHHHH.
love the video tho! like always!
After that taser incident I always raise an eyebrow whenever Anna brings up anything to do with BDSM.
I feel like the companies get off on the idea of customers breaking their devices to fix a spec flaw.
If you pull up task manager, you can see how many ram slots are in use. If it was soldered on it would say 1 of 1 channel or 2 of 2. With an empty slot it will say 1 of 2 in slots used.
Just think of that new gap in the frame as extra "ventilation" :D
I don't even understand breaking the clips can create a gap when there's 11 screws holding the panel on. You should be able to break every single one and have it still fit tightly.
No shit.
@@sweaterfish6311bending
It helps cool the track pad really nicely. 😂
6:15 The angled charging cable is actually quite helpful and easy to plug in when you are sitting in front of the laptop on a table
Also it allows for you to tie the end of that cable to a leg of a cooling stand, so when you lift the laptop up to put in a bag, you can leave the power adapter end in place and it wont fall behind the desk (along with other cables you may want to leave in place). It's much harder to do with a straight on connector. I'd always choose a 90 degree over straight on.
“Lady’s love nothing more than a dude whipping out some rog” then you mention doing honey lmao you win my internets for today
And now, forever more, access panels will be referred to as "Glory Holes" and it is all Dawids fault
when i seen the title i thought he ment the laptop was so sexy he needed a glory hole till i watched the video.
You should get a bonus from your sponsors for the extra effort you put in.
LENODE
As long as you all don’t hate the sponsored spots that’s enough of a bonus for me. 👍
I accidentally watch more of yours than i skip. Good work.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Your sponson spots are legendary. Your Linode advert is basically a meme now.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You fit the sponsors in very well... Others channels totally feel like hard CUTS to clip in their ads... Yours flow better, music vid ect... They dont make me quick skip past..... like most "Populour" channels... where you see then cut and paste.... clash of ..... whatever click bait Game sponsor... Appreciate you Dawid!
If you need to have substantive skills to be able to open a laptop without breaking it just to add a RAM simm (or any other "user serviceable part") -- that's a major design flaw.
I read the tech manual for laptops to see how to open.
So many tricky clips and hidden screws...
@Dawid Does Tech Stuff the datasheet 5:12 says it's an 8-core Ryzen 5 5600H. The sticker on the laptop 2:37 says it has a six-core CPU. Also here 5:16 it indicates a six-core CPU. ???
You should try new glasses, or re-read what you thought you read.
@@Chris-6768wv
It clearly says “3.3GHz octa-core AMD Ryzen 5 5600H” in the first time stamp. You should try new glasses, or re-read what you thought you read.
@@-Burb Yep, you are right. Too much Bourbon! Apologies Mr. Williams.
I would much prefer the angled connector on the back or anywhere almost, straight ones tend to stick out and act like a lever and it's a great way to break a port which probably is solder to the mainboard.
they should give you both then you can choose which one works for your situation
I have last year's version of this laptop. i7-10870H and RTX 2070, which cost $1300USD. It had 2x8GB@3200MT/s. My version does have a glory hole and has 3 MVNe slots. I upgraded to 32GB of RAM and added 2x 2TB NVMe's for a total of 5TB of NVMe storage. It's a great little machine, runs cool, and is plenty fast for my needs.
Even my 1991 Amiga computer(it was a microcomputer where the entire machine, including motherboard, floppy drive and later a hard disk was housed inside the keyboard for plugging into a standard TV via RF cable, a really common configuration on low price gaming computers back then) had a glory hole for putting RAM and an expansion card in.
They have no excuses in 2022.
Not sure how much of an issue this is for other people, but the screen colors are absolutely terrible to the point I returned the 5900HX/3060 version. All the colors are extremely washed out , (reds orange, blues teal, etc) and no contrast at all. Ended up going with an Eluktronics Max-17 for the same price
That is a setting that you can tweak in software normally
@@joelthenoob9868 i slap my monitors saturation on 200% better colors imo
@@joelthenoob9868 There is no way to tweak the software, it's a limitation of the low color capability of the panel. If i recall correctly its 77% of SRGB. Also 20ms+ response times
@@MaxTheCenturion ok, some gaming laptops I have worked with have completely adjustable colour. I haven't worked with one of these recent Rog laptops. It was a suggestion
@@joelthenoob9868 Most do have good settings! I just wanted to save someone the sadness I had when I started it up for the first time. You can even see the pink ROG logo in the video that's supposed to be red on start up LOL
4:22 Oh thank God, I can relax and enjoy the rest of the review now. Was wondering what the heck Dawid meant in the title. xD
Great review, sir. Definitely agree on the clips, at all points.
This laptop reminds me of Legion 5 in quite a lot of ways
Yeah mate I have a 17 inch one with a 3060.
It even kinda looks like one to be honest.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff yea, you're right btw love the merch!
If only this laptop opened like the Legion, but I don't feel like giving Lenovo credit for their repairability right now because I am very salty about the whole CPU locking thing as it directly affects me. Every one of my main PCs has been a beast with various Xeons from old workstations all around a decade old at the time.
@@steelfox1448 yea, I'm pretty salty about that too, but the opening procedure looks fairly similar to me
I'm with you 100% on the need for a upgrade access panel or a revision on the bottom plate that is not so horrible to open. I would be pissed off to have to go through all that to upgrade ram, storage, etc...
I own this laptop with a slightly different configuration. I had to open it because the stock Mediatek wifi card was crap, and I replaced it with an Ax200 from Intel. I was careful while opening it but still managed to break a clip too 😅
did you also upgrade the ram to dual channel for better performance?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am quite surprised that the thing is almost glued together, considering the optional ssd upgrade and especially the necessary ram upgrade.
-I also enjoyed the Honey music video, which i may or may not have already turned into a ringtone...
My bet is that the internals and case are designed by two different departments. The hardware team was trying to make something mostly good within their allotted budget, margin, and other requirements. Where as the case design team said “let’s look good to management by cutting an extra part that needs tooling/assembly, coming in under our budget, and screwing over the hardware team’s efforts.” Management also probably said, “Yea and that will help prevent most people from seeing the terrible RAM configuration we saddle them with because RAM is expensive and hard to get a good margin on.”
@@Pies_By_Arvid The one stick ram in laptops have bin going on for alot of years... it's a good thing Dawid and others are shining a light on it.
Yesterday i decided to inspect and order parts to upgrade an old ultrabook i bought in 2012, when i realised, it too only had 1 stick of ram...🤦🏻♂️
...but yeah, it might be exactly what you are saying, about 2 departments working on each part, and the department manager having bin a little to easy, to persuade going along with the 2 separate design teams ideas.
I get the same problems with mine. I bought one with a ryzen 9, 8 cores, 300 hz 1080p monitor so the bottle neck is real 😂. I’ve been getting very worried recently because I got a 4K monitor and my cpu has been pushing 90c but hearing you I’ve gotten some confidence back, thank you. I’ve torn mine open a few times now and I don’t remember anything falling off and I was pretty cautious on a clean table. I woulda cried if something fell off mine I’m just getting into PC gaming and have had so much trouble but loving it overall.
I have a now dead Asus G1S and I loved how all the upgradeable components had separate lids for quick access. Just a couple screws and you're in, no prying required.
Ohhh, maybe I'll actually get a date if I whip out my ROG?
Only if it has RGB mate .
LGBTQ+ friendly lights are a must!
I mean that's how Dawid landed me. He whipped out his ROG and I was like HELLLLYYYEEAAHHHH
@@AnnaDoes 🤣🤣🤣
That sound of the plastic clips giving way always sends a shiver down my spine.
I think you may have given the term "Glory Hole" a whole new meaning. Some of your viewers are going to innocently use that term to describe access to a computer. You're a funny guy and I like watching your videos for a bit of light entertainment rather than a tech tech channel that can be a bit dry. Added bonus - sometimes I actually learn something.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who places importance on being able to open the laptop with one hand. It just smacks of quality when you can easily open the lid of a laptop
Wait 62% srgb???? This must be horrendous
i was about to type about this
Was at a coffee spot listening to your teardown and had my headphones in at a pretty reasonable volume. Anyway, I dropped my phone, pulled out my headphones while scrambling to catch my phone, and then 8:35 - 8:41 happened. Yup, time to leave the coffee shop.
I was expecting a linode..not a honey, 2022 is already throwing me curveballs
:D
6:04 "Oh wait, they've got an angled connector for a port that goes in the back? that's..... that's pretty stupid"
😂😂😂
For 1k€ I got a legion 5 with a 5600h, 3060, 16 GB Ram and a 512 GB SSD back in November, so this looks like a bad deal to me.
Here that's like €1200 you got a super good deal
Legion 5 is no cap best value laptop on market imo.
@@chriscross3924 yeah and ?
@@TheOriginalBruh He's trying to tell you he overpaid; the same model goes for 1160€ now 😉
@Donald Nemesis Gaming
I think he knows it’s a better value in terms of specs, he’s just saying it’s ugly.
I like this dude for reviews throughout the ram configurations and full specifications of what to buy on the ram. More like this please i'm gonna share your page dawid salute! Btw make nvme ssd and ram tutorials too.
Clipping coupons, the great American pastime.
With all the money that ASUS have, if they are cheaping out on not having a glory hole at least they should design the case to open only by removing screws.
the ladies really love a dude whipping out some ROG🤣🤣🤣
Hey, that's the laptops we had to buy at work for our programmers because we literally couldn't find any workstation laptops on a short notice, except I chose the Ryzen 9 version with a RTX 3060 and 16GB of RAM. I chose that model specifically because the RAM and SSD weren't soldered, unlike a lot of laptops in that price range, and because it seemed to have a decent cooling system. That's actually the first 165Hz screen I tested, I liked it so much that I bought one for my personal computer, even if my RX580 isn't to best to use it.
Just brake all the clips so that it is held together only by the screws. Alot easier to get in the next time. :)
I own this laptop build with rt3070 from release date 02.2021, and cant say anything bad about it. It works great! Screen , battery, performance, keyboard, plugs, hinge, build is great! Not slim but compact enough!
Theres something totaly wrong with your settings if you have 60% gpu usage, my mashine works 100%, thottles a little on gpu side, but still can pull of 50% more performance and fidelity then my Playstation 5!
This is designed to never be user serviced. Glory hole at the minimum, being able to completely take the bottom off without fragile clips and I/O in the way would be best.
Yeah the “physical design” of being serviced is bad, but it’s just criminal that the spec REQUIRES it to be serviced to get decent performance.
I like the angled power cable. Uh, all you have to do is turn it toward whichever way the power source is. If it comes straight out the back it can limit your laptop placement as well as more wear on the cord, as every power cord phone owner knows
Guess I'm part of the 1% who's opened this type of laptop twice without breaking anything 😂
Same here bro. I remember ripping mine apart 3 dabs deep 🤣
8:20 I recently got a Legion 5 15ACH6H with 5600H and RTX 3060, with "store-upgraded" RAM to 2x8GB sticks... and first thing I had to do after receiving it was open it myself because the store managed to break off three small plastic pieces when opening it and left them rattling inside XD
On top of that they upgraded crappy 8GB 1rx16 stick, with second 8GB 1rx16 stick instead of replacing both... so I ended up having to replace the sticks myself with proper 2rx8 sticks, that with Ryzen can give even 10-20% gain in some games compared to garbage 1rx16 ones.
Still though Legion 5 ACH6H is amazing offer for the price(Especially now when it's on sales due to new versions with Ryzen 6XXXH CPUs coming out, which provide relatively small performance upgrade, and demand much more expensive DDR5 RAM...), and it has fully powered RTX 3060, something that ASUS almost fooled me with since I planned to buy a TUF laptop with RTX 3060 at first before discovering them using low wattage version of it that's almost 15% worse XD
I do miss the good old days when laptops came with small removable panel cutouts on the bottom for both RAM and HDD swaps. I don't know if I would use the same terminology for them as Dawid did, but those were handy.
Back in the day this was a necessity for a slightly different reason, though.
HDDs were prone to fail, for example. I remember buying HDDs, installing them at home, having them fail within a day and returning them to the store up to three times.
It was a similar story with RAM, even with new laptops (shipping and handling in particular as well as non-ideal storage conditions where reasons this would happen).
To be perfectly honest, all this is just a symptom of the times. Way back when (e.g. 10 to 15 years ago and earlier), you'd buy your PC stuff (and laptops) in a brick and mortar store an just have a store technician handle upgrades (they'd usually do it for free if you bought the upgraded parts there). This also meant that it was often retailers who were offering different configurations instead of manufacturers, so small upgrades had to be easy. Ever since online retail took over, it's the manufacturer that configures your machine and they want you to buy the upgrade from *them* instead (with a considerable mark-up). In light of this manufacturers today don't care about how difficult upgrades are, unless the target market is business customers.
Brilliant title, never would have clicked this if I wasnt so fucking confused & intrigued lmfao
I had one of these before it was stolen and they actually are pretty good
Stolen how?
I go to college and one day I went to go use the bathroom and I left my laptop at a table. As you can guess someone came up and took it. Unfortunately the guy never got caught. 2022 has been off to a lovey start lol
@@cgarepair1487 lmao is it hard to ask someone nearby to watch the laptop for you?
It just didn’t cross my mind lol
Something to add here! Upgrade the ram to x8 instead of x16 if you can. This can sometimes make huge performance difference, because x16 is much denser thus increasing the timings which can slow the computer down. LTT made video on that
This dude has by far the most hilarious tech videos out there.
Never seen any of your videos til this one, I love your review style! Subbed
Ive had Asus Laptops for all of my life and they are always extremely painful to disassemble and you slowly get desensitized to the cracks when opening it.
What the heck I’ve had the exact opposite experience. Which laptops have you had? My Q550LF, Q304UA, and G14 were all super easy to open. I’m disappointed they decided to make the laptop in the video so annoying to open.
Dawid! The reason some companies say "IPS-ish or IPS - type panel" is because LG displays owns the trademark for IPS so other display manufacturers have to compare it to IPS and can't outright say its IPS
I really liked the review and Asus should, probably does, know better on the design and memory configuration.
“Glory Hole” how did you get that by the UA-cam censor? :-)
I actually bought one of these a couple weeks ago. There is a 300Hz with dual channel memory version (the one I got), it’s actually incredible price to performance value.
You mean 3000mhz?
@@dracopug 300hz refresh rate maybe
Was it the Advantage edition with AMD GPU? Those were incredible value for sure
Same. Got the G15 advantage on a deal at best buy US $1500..(November?) just in the last month I think I saw they had $1400 or $1450!!
300hz display, 8/16 core 5900HX RX6800M, the 16 gb ram they put in is Single rank 2 dimms but dual rank or Dimms with tighter timings will increase the performance around 15% meaning you still gotta open the damn chassis
Wait they’re selling a laptop with a 3050 and a 300Hz display? Or does it have a better GPU with your model? I can’t imagine the 3050 could run anything at even close to a consistent 300 fps.
The Legion 5 definitely needs a glory hole too. It's kinda' the same design and was more of a PITA than it needed to be just to install an additional m.2 drive. And for the record, I used to be field engineer for HP and Dell. I've opened thousands of laptops. So while I can open it without breaking anything, I agree that this can be designed better, and other laptops are. But at least there are two physical slots for RAM. Getting real sick of these gaming laptops with one DIMM soldered to the board.
You are spot on, there is absolutely no reason it needs to be this hard to open. We all know it's to stop upgrading/fixing.
this rtx card/laptop is slower than last gens lowest tier rtx card so thats cool
You're mixing laptop and desktop SKUs. Laptop GPUs are always slower than their desktop counterparts. Sure, you can complain about the laptop 3050 being slower than desktop 2060, but that's totally missing the point.
@@samiraperi467 you've missed the point but thank you for... well im not sure but have a nice day
@@samiraperi467
The 3050 laptop card is slower than the 2060 laptop card is what they’re saying
return to heavy ass thick laptops, i want SUBSTANCE for my money. Hinges always tended to last longer when they had to be tough enough to deal with all the weight
I won't ever buy another ASUS laptop. Everyone I know with ASUS laptops has disposed of them in like a year because they have battery issues, trackpad issues or start falling apart. I also forgot to mention that ASUS has been caught repeatedly now killing the performance of Ryzen laptops by shipping them with single channel RAM configurations, and choking off airflow. This laptop seemed to have thermals under control, but in the past there were identical Intel and AMD models, and the AMD models had plastic blocking off a lot of the vents on the bottom. I can't remember if it was you or another UA-camr but they took a dremel and removed the plastic and then it didn't overheat anymore.
whaat? ive never heard this
Yeah the old budget Asus stuff definitely had that issue. ROG is pretty good tho
My mom's old laptop still works fine. It's ancient.
And by works fine, I mean, works despite at least 1 major fall due to our dogs pulling it off the table while charging, and requires constant feeding by virtue of only having wall power.
But besides that? It still held up super well. I recently got her to get a new laptop, which she admits definitely now that it was necessary, but the old one was super great.
So I can't deny it wasn't falling apart, BUUUUUUT that was no fault of Asus' product.
I’ll only buy Asus laptops. Ive owned 3 in the past 13 years and all of them are still working fine. My current laptop is a 2020 G14, and before that I had a Q550LF and a Q304UA. The only issue I’ve ever had was a hard drive failure on my Q304UA but thats a super easy upgrade/fix once I swapped it with an SSD.
The groaning when Dawid opens a laptop case is always hilarious.
Dawid better drop a whole mixtape after those fire bars in the Honey ad. Don’t leave us hanging dude.
I always take my Dawid videos with a hint of madness and a side of LINODE. 👌
This would also be a good IT laptop. That Ethernet port on the back is nice to have.
I like how David roast himself on behalf of us, before we can reach to comment section
Breaking clips? This is like every laptop ever. It's incredibly annoying that manufacturers continue to make them this way.
I can see the purpose of the 90 degree power plug. If you lift the laptop from the front leaning the back against the table top,, this prevents you front putting as much leveraged pressure on the port and breaking it.
You have to change the settings in the nvidia control panel.
i have the G15A version of this laptop. to say it rips is an understatement. the bottom panel does kinda suck but after opening it once, its not too bad now. really happy with the build and its nice to see the cassis doesnt change too much.
I do agree that the clips is balls and I do not know why include them when it have screws, but the technique to remove them is start at the front and when you reach the ventilation on the side, use the guitar pick to push the vents out and down. I had a hard time myself.
I agree about opening the back- it's not an overrecation. Not just to upgrade the RAM, but all laptop fans need occasional cleaning every now and then- some more than others depending on use patterns and environment.
"than a dude whipping out some ROG" really got me
4:01 there is a screw still attached to the bottom right corner.
Still don't understand how you don't have a million subs yet your content is incredible
At 4:37 you can see the missing screw ( buttom right ) poor guy struggling... I feel powerless
"awwwwwghhhhh" "awwwwwghhhhh" Between case opening grunts and lack of glory holes you now have a new fan. :)
great review, thanks! Always a pleasure watching your content
I opened my one to upgrade the ram and i accidentally screwed the bigger screws through the front of the laptop, now i have two big bumps on either side of my trackpad lol 😣
I doubt it would make much of a difference, but did you use the original RAM stick with one G.Skill stick, or did you use both of the new sticks? Also I assume you tried Windows power settings. Fun vid as always!
Braver man than me.. you kept going after the first bad cracking sound while taking the back off.. I would have just put the screws back in and used it for web browsing.. its crazy how hard some manufacturers make it..
mate you were the only UA-camr that has been able to get me to watch a honey ad . man that so unexpected haha haha. i very often skip them straightaway. send you greetings from Colombia not Columbia hahaha.ome
I have only recently bumped into your channel.But I can't get enough 😂. You are hilarious mate.
Nice touch on the typeface. Very subtle addition to the theme
i've taken apart like 10-15 new rog laptops and never had the plastic clips broken. you just have to unscrew the bottom right screw will will pop things off nicely
I've been looking at theses online on and off. Good to know they're not easily upgradable.
To be fair, it looks like you missed a screw. At 4:33 mark, it looks like there is still a screw in the chassis in the lower right hand corner, right above the blue plastic pry bar. other than that, I really like your videos.
Dawid, you are on point here. I've upgraded a similar laptops SSD and RAM and now my laptop is held together with duct tape.
The heat from the laptop melts the glue of the duct tape and then it starts drifting and covering the ports
My brain is broken, whenever I see "ROG", my brain immediately jumps to "Reign of giants", the Don't Starve expansion
I have the 5900hx with a 3060 version and I love it Especially with dlss
This laptop also having ventilation in the top when opened, is honestly a good idea.
It was enough to have vents on the sides, back, and bottom…. But also the top?? Like…. Damn.
I have an older version of this laptop with a GTX1650 in it and it’s one of the most comfortable laptops I’ve ever used. Not super powerful but for I do with it, it gets the job done well
Dawid, I had Dr Pepper come out my nose, all over the inside of the work truck windshield, as soon as I read the title. Way to go bro, that was hilarious as hell 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I heard if you put it in an oven set to 50'C for a few minutes the plastic case won't break if you try to open it.
The low gpu usage may be cause because the laptop doesn't have a muxx switch. This can be fix by pluging it ton an external monitor.
The sound you make when the laptop snaps open omg hilarious
I was waiting for you to say today's sponsor was Linode. Very disappointed that I didn't get some of that sweet "Linode" action
6:04 I think you should put it in right direction
4:33 I see that screw bottom right lol then it disappears at 4:36 ROFL caught you