Why you don't want to be CC Immune against New Lee Sin...

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  • @Birbatiel
    @Birbatiel Місяць тому +3427

    Visual update btw

    • @HextechLab
      @HextechLab  Місяць тому +973

      The visual update just cured his blindness so now he actually knows where to kick.

    • @Birbatiel
      @Birbatiel Місяць тому +314

      ​@@HextechLab wait no I that's not what I meant by a "VISUAL" update
      YOOOOOO

    • @parry5703
      @parry5703 Місяць тому +108

      The R damage spaghetti code is already there for God knows how long, it applies to any mod that isn't affected by CC. If you don't get knocked up from his kicking someone else to your face then the damage will apply every frame it passes through your hitbox. Truly the small indie studio moment.

    • @EctorAg
      @EctorAg Місяць тому +4

      @@Birbatiel xDDDD

    • @mukamuka0
      @mukamuka0 Місяць тому +4

      @@HextechLab Oh! shit...he's not blind anymore

  • @fruitloopz1811
    @fruitloopz1811 Місяць тому +1778

    lee sin if he was made in 2024

    • @jamandroid164
      @jamandroid164 Місяць тому +8

      I mean, its a rework of character in 2024

    • @MangaGamify
      @MangaGamify Місяць тому +31

      esport matches are the only thing they're fixing *💸*

    • @Xedlord
      @Xedlord Місяць тому +6

      ​@@jamandroid164 Yeah that's the joke

    • @vonspeedwagon1466
      @vonspeedwagon1466 Місяць тому

      Lee Sin if Riot Llama designed him

    • @hunterkinsella5303
      @hunterkinsella5303 Місяць тому +1

      ​@jamandroid164 its not a rework, its purely a visual update

  • @eduardobarros6562
    @eduardobarros6562 Місяць тому +1370

    Somehow they manage to break the gameplay while doing a visual update

    • @Doublejho
      @Doublejho Місяць тому +26

      it's not just a visual update from the code side of things, though

    • @killator3421
      @killator3421 Місяць тому +59

      I mean its clearly not visual only xD
      They are recoding his spells so it fits with the new code base i guess. But the new code base is also sh*t i guess. From one spaghetti into another xD

    • @alvinluk9724
      @alvinluk9724 Місяць тому +10

      Why tf would a visual asset change manage to affect the functional side 🤣

    • @Salzui
      @Salzui Місяць тому +9

      @@alvinluk9724 That is because they are not just updating his visuals, but basically recreate lee sin with their new and shiny tech

    • @rojakishibe7113
      @rojakishibe7113 Місяць тому +28

      that's kinda a general misunderstanding of what an ASU is. it's an Art and *Sustainability* Update. They do a lot to clean up a champ's codebase, and the blog post about the ASU had a whole section about how skin-specific additions and cosmetics had scripting in the base Lee script, clogging up all his actions when they weren't in use.
      (That doesn't mean bugs like this getting into PBE is a great thing, but this is also where that's supposed to be caught as a last-minute safety net)

  • @DillonMeyer
    @DillonMeyer Місяць тому +380

    "I didn't realize they were unstoppable because I couldn't see the text. I can't see anything, actually." - Lee Sin

  • @chriswho12345
    @chriswho12345 Місяць тому +207

    they decided to refactor and despaghetti, but they found spaghetti on the way

    • @MionMikan
      @MionMikan Місяць тому +2

      Maybe the real spaghetti was the one we found along the way

    • @koalteufel7947
      @koalteufel7947 26 днів тому

      respaghetti if you will

  • @captain7883
    @captain7883 Місяць тому +64

    Riot always manages to take 1 spaghetti out of the pot but put 2 back in

  • @k.a.8725
    @k.a.8725 Місяць тому +45

    This actually makes perfect sense. Its unstoppable force versus immoveable object.
    Result: delete immoveable object.

  • @SpookSkellington
    @SpookSkellington Місяць тому +282

    Finally someone who can give Olaf the death he seeks.
    By kicking another man into him when he's angry

    • @user-ik7xq1pb6s
      @user-ik7xq1pb6s Місяць тому +7

      That's also how I would like to go when the time comes

    • @gwegsta972
      @gwegsta972 Місяць тому +1

      Illaoi hard counter Olaf tho, and volibear too, trundle also beat Olaf if I remember. there is more Olaf counters than volibear counters

    • @Definitely-Rel
      @Definitely-Rel Місяць тому +1

      @@gwegsta972 He is talking about the lore

    • @waylongback4514
      @waylongback4514 Місяць тому

      Beating a mf with another mf

    • @johancito16345
      @johancito16345 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Definitely-Relhe is talking about league gameplay, not lore

  • @David-pi4hx
    @David-pi4hx Місяць тому +189

    What in the flying Spaghetti Code is this? I thought it's only visual, how do you fuck up this bad??

    • @hanselgabrielgomezandrade5792
      @hanselgabrielgomezandrade5792 Місяць тому +71

      Well, is a VISUAL update, so it makes sense that Lee now can SEE where to kick

    • @motivatedpotato6604
      @motivatedpotato6604 Місяць тому +25

      Because most of his skins were directly tied to his code. They rebuilt it from the ground up, and we have this bolongese of a code now

    • @theprisonbottle3832
      @theprisonbottle3832 Місяць тому +12

      @@motivatedpotato6604 wasnt this in game before the visual update? except it was if lee ulted a champ into baron nashor, it would take multiple damage procs

    • @marvinlauerwald
      @marvinlauerwald Місяць тому +13

      Visual update= they hardcoded the hitmarker onto the animationframes, but now with the visual update the animation has 3x more frames, resulting in multiple hits if the enemy can stand still through the cc

    • @casualmarkit9969
      @casualmarkit9969 Місяць тому +6

      Its an ASU, Art and Sustainability update. They advertised this change as including necessary changes to his abilities code to make them sustainable due to how poorly of a Swiss Cheese they made them back then. Problem is, its still Swiss Cheese anyway, and they aren't good chefs as established prior. They make too much Spaghetti for any and every dish they make. Tada! This nonsense right here.

  • @LeviTheLancer
    @LeviTheLancer Місяць тому +10

    I think that the new lee sin ult count someone as "ulted or hit by the ulted target" when they get cc'd by the target or by the ult, and by not getting cc'd, they will get a ton of damage bc the code will aways count the person as non ulted, so they take the damage again and again and again

  • @dracohir1609
    @dracohir1609 Місяць тому +6

    Riot putting in the extra effort, making gameplay bugs for their visual updates instead of just visual bugs.

  • @baxland2539
    @baxland2539 Місяць тому +47

    Wait but I've actually seen some clips of something extremely simlar with pre-ASU Lee.. like I think Lee kicking someone into baron and baron just insta exploding?

    • @tarrantwalter524
      @tarrantwalter524 Місяць тому +19

      different bug, that one got fixed. happened with anyone who casted their ult and then got far enough away from the baron before/while the damage was applying, it would apply constantly very fast

  • @juztify3311
    @juztify3311 Місяць тому +2

    Reminds of that one bug that zyra and leesin can oneshot baron back then, leesin ulting people into baron and flash away from it will also led to outcome of the video, almost instantly killing baron, zyra ulting the plant and flash away also works

  • @pixdie
    @pixdie Місяць тому +18

    it maybe coded like
    damage > knock up > if knocked up dont damage
    Try damaging someone already knocked up, might end up with no damage at all

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev Місяць тому +2

      Barely takes any programming knowledge to figure out how such code would cause issues. I hope to god it's not actually that simple, they can't be this incompetent

    • @user-kr6ss1ry1k
      @user-kr6ss1ry1k 29 днів тому

      ​@@Ayzev dude, in the earlier years of league a new cc over cc'ed target was unlocking movement for target, it worked like cc applies "can move = false" so if you another cc that flag becomes reverted to "true" for few frames

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev 29 днів тому

      @@user-kr6ss1ry1k I want to cope with "At least that was at the time when it was basically still an indie game, right?" But nah, even then that's an embarrassment

    • @user-kr6ss1ry1k
      @user-kr6ss1ry1k 29 днів тому

      @@Ayzev there was a vid recently, about msi
      Mechanic I've mentioned remains in game in combination of Ahri's charm and knockups

    • @user-kr6ss1ry1k
      @user-kr6ss1ry1k 29 днів тому

      @@Ayzev vandiril maybe made a vid anout it

  • @Hagaren333
    @Hagaren333 Місяць тому +1

    I hope you can show it with other champions who have CC immunity, like morgana with the black shield, ohnn throwing fire, alistar in the ultimate, and of course, olaf in ultimate

  • @ThievingDuo
    @ThievingDuo Місяць тому +14

    Wdym bug, thats a feature! He was just bugged for 13 years!

  • @zzzpoma9961
    @zzzpoma9961 Місяць тому +4

    They rolled back changes from April Fools 2011 trailer.

  • @evolutionmonster9212
    @evolutionmonster9212 Місяць тому +14

    HOW THE HELL THIS IS HAPPENING ON A VISUAL UPDATE

  • @mamaruru1308
    @mamaruru1308 Місяць тому

    I could honestly imagine it to be just another additional bug to that Hydra. Because the hydra already doesn’t give you the displayed amount of lethality at the moment

  • @ashryver3605
    @ashryver3605 Місяць тому +1

    Riot spaghetti code truly never gets old. Visual update.

  • @IceedPro
    @IceedPro Місяць тому +1

    When i read "cc immune" i knew where this was going.

  • @hiirozero3623
    @hiirozero3623 Місяць тому

    from hitting baron with ult while dashing/flash away to this 😂😂😂

  • @yurilopes420
    @yurilopes420 18 днів тому

    my friend and i were theory crafting:
    A - it either is because lee sin ult is trying to do damage and knock up. it does damage. but doesnt knock up. so it's like "try again" and it does more dmg but no knockup, rinse repeat
    B - might also be because being airborne avoids taking more damage from the ulti, so when you're not airborne, you just take infinite damage

  • @randomfeg4141
    @randomfeg4141 Місяць тому +1

    Ahhh isn't this why a few months ago lee could almost 1shot baron aswell? since it is cc immune but now it effects champions too maybe?

  • @x3voo
    @x3voo 29 днів тому

    It kind of reminds me of the old Lee Sin R bug that could one-shot Baron

  • @Catswaga
    @Catswaga 24 дні тому

    Idk if they patched it but a couple months back you could do the same thing to baron and dragon

  • @einsvince
    @einsvince Місяць тому

    Remembers me about that one bug where Lee could one-shot Baron with that ...

  • @willowknight3956
    @willowknight3956 Місяць тому

    I think this is related to the one shotting Baron bug as Baron is also immune to CC.

  • @quintessenceoflife7870
    @quintessenceoflife7870 Місяць тому

    I was gonna say how does just changing animations effect the things in a kit like this then remembered how long skarner took cause how deeply embedded he was in riot's spaghetti code.

  • @heilokcd2703
    @heilokcd2703 27 днів тому

    Finally the olaf counter we needed

  • @lyzextra5891
    @lyzextra5891 19 днів тому

    this bugs been here for a bit
    u can 1 shot baron if u dash away towards opposite wall after kick

  • @seweski5569
    @seweski5569 Місяць тому

    sometimes i wonder how do things like this even happen

  • @emranao
    @emranao Місяць тому

    I don't understand how so many bugs can occur just like that.

  • @freedove6791
    @freedove6791 Місяць тому

    The Morgana incident

  • @xaviermm5506
    @xaviermm5506 Місяць тому

    Such quality of life buffs, thanks riot!

  • @guilhermenove4737
    @guilhermenove4737 Місяць тому

    mama mia spaghetti code
    lets call it a feature until it happens in the next worlds

  • @bombasticcat
    @bombasticcat Місяць тому +1

    you can clearly feel that the new employee who did ksante, smolders and new skarner did this lee sin update. Please fire that persoe god

  • @jessblues848
    @jessblues848 Місяць тому +1

    Surely we won't see Lee Sin kick into a Malzahar at worlds!

    • @MangaGamify
      @MangaGamify Місяць тому +1

      esport matches are the only thing they're fixing *💸*

  • @95DreadLord
    @95DreadLord Місяць тому +1

    His April fools video where he ults a minion into nexus instantly exploding it doesn't seem that ridiculous anymore

  • @MangaGamify
    @MangaGamify Місяць тому +2

    esport matches are the only thing they're fixing *💸*

  • @Kyrolysis
    @Kyrolysis Місяць тому

    Lee is now a Morg counter

  • @tinng6664
    @tinng6664 Місяць тому +3

    So everyone who have cc imune is also count as nash ?

  • @silenttwilight5111
    @silenttwilight5111 Місяць тому +2

    Well, does it work at Baron again?

  • @spunkin49
    @spunkin49 Місяць тому

    pretty odd that a visual update would cause a bug like this, i woulda thought that code wouldnt be involved at all. programming is nasty work

  • @noisehero4409
    @noisehero4409 Місяць тому

    League players when the visual update has some code changes to it (they didn’t know this happens)

  • @Manwu5
    @Manwu5 27 днів тому

    It works as intended 😂

  • @Irisfantasies
    @Irisfantasies 27 днів тому

    "insert 200 years meme"

  • @zzzlulzzz5080
    @zzzlulzzz5080 Місяць тому

    Remember the time when lee sin's kick have blood splatter?

  • @DanteAkira6669
    @DanteAkira6669 Місяць тому

    They really managed to create gameplay bugs with a visual update

  • @robertlupa8273
    @robertlupa8273 Місяць тому +1

    One Kick Man

  • @thedaethbringer
    @thedaethbringer Місяць тому

    Ngl I think conceptually this is kinda interesting as a champ idea. Make it so they do more damage to a CC immune enemy.

  • @rafinha4821
    @rafinha4821 Місяць тому

    It wasn't only changing the visual riot?

  • @justaguy1304
    @justaguy1304 Місяць тому

    The ksante counter

  • @scurvysailor165
    @scurvysailor165 Місяць тому

    When are they patching the gangplank one part bug? This is driving me nuts ☠️☠️

  • @Ao3y889
    @Ao3y889 Місяць тому

    Its the same shait like with the baron before
    And yeah its wierd that visual update would do something like this they might have changed his R i was not able to do R flash after the rework
    Idk i might be just wierd

  • @KuRaMa1904
    @KuRaMa1904 Місяць тому +7

    How about olaf ult?

    • @HextechLab
      @HextechLab  Місяць тому +6

      Will also work the same

  • @McconneIIRet
    @McconneIIRet Місяць тому +1

    HOW CAN LEE SIN MAINS COPE AND SAY THEIR CHAMP ISNT OVERTUNED?!?!

  • @thedumbone2687
    @thedumbone2687 Місяць тому +1

    Lee sin mains oneshotting 10/0 Olaf common w

  • @AC-ut3nk
    @AC-ut3nk Місяць тому

    Imagine something work properly, Just imagine.

  • @skiot9931
    @skiot9931 Місяць тому

    Does this also mean that lee kick can remove spellshield AND deal the damage?

  • @shadepowers1681
    @shadepowers1681 Місяць тому

    is this live ?

  • @ramespeon
    @ramespeon Місяць тому +9

    00:40 "it only works with new lee sin" procceds to half mundo's hp

    • @cryochick9044
      @cryochick9044 Місяць тому +7

      He's level 2 lee has 200 ad

    • @TheAstyanii
      @TheAstyanii Місяць тому +2

      That's approximately the same damage taken by Mundo post-update shown at 0:05. Only differences are:
      -Mundo is level 3 post-update compared to level 2 pre-update (less health/armor, should take more damage pre-update)
      -K'Sante is level 3 post-update compared to level 4 pre-update (because R uses champ's max health, pre-update should take more damage)
      -Mundo doesn't have trait active post-update while he does pre-update (pre-update should take more damage)

  • @marianoherrera6038
    @marianoherrera6038 Місяць тому

    Vanguard is fine and works as usual!

  • @1Tsuki3
    @1Tsuki3 Місяць тому

    How can riot do a visual update and change how the habilities works

  • @lazinessincarnate9442
    @lazinessincarnate9442 28 днів тому

    So THATS why i took 3.9k dmg from lee sin ult earlier

  • @queenC6969
    @queenC6969 Місяць тому

    what about morgana and sivir’s spell shield?

  • @Pigraider268
    @Pigraider268 Місяць тому

    Let's got tank counters!!! ^^

  • @TropicalPunchz
    @TropicalPunchz 27 днів тому

    not me trying to ? ping on the video lmao

  • @XelquetevenceraX
    @XelquetevenceraX 13 днів тому

    They should keep it, finally a counter to unstoppable champs

  • @jeremyruiz3998
    @jeremyruiz3998 Місяць тому

    what about the items that grant ability shield?

  • @shiroamurha
    @shiroamurha Місяць тому

    same bug as that old one which oneshots baron

  • @ferhatius3943
    @ferhatius3943 Місяць тому

    guess ive been laying lee wrong the whole time

  • @merchant_of_kek5697
    @merchant_of_kek5697 Місяць тому

    Changes his uniform, now Lee instakill tanks.

  • @kylre
    @kylre Місяць тому

    The old lee can one shot baron with this same bug

  • @user-en5mh8rb3h
    @user-en5mh8rb3h Місяць тому

    The same company forces us to install Vanguard and be cool about it btw

  • @user-bw5pz4fm2j
    @user-bw5pz4fm2j Місяць тому

    when do u fight as lvl 6 a lvl 2 mundo?

  • @Braxtonkai
    @Braxtonkai Місяць тому

    Death stopped them, unstoppable is bugged

  • @demons785
    @demons785 Місяць тому

    if i don t say shit ornn passive deal more dmg too to mundo when he has passive up

  • @guillyaume
    @guillyaume Місяць тому +1

    and with olaf?

  • @bragiodinsen4604
    @bragiodinsen4604 Місяць тому +4

    small indie company

  • @user-qu8rh3ib4p
    @user-qu8rh3ib4p 26 днів тому

    its because in the code they tried to give lee sin hidden buffs and tweaking the numbers

  • @Lqz_y
    @Lqz_y 29 днів тому

    does this work on olaf’s ult?

  • @blasfer
    @blasfer Місяць тому

    what about morgana spellshield?

  • @JesusNoGA
    @JesusNoGA Місяць тому +6

    Does this work with Morgana shield as well?

    • @HextechLab
      @HextechLab  Місяць тому +9

      Yeah, works with everything that prevents the knock-up.

    • @kubix426
      @kubix426 Місяць тому

      @@HextechLab HOW DO THEY MESS UP THAT BADLY EVEN, RIOT COME ON 😭😭

  • @aziaufa418
    @aziaufa418 Місяць тому

    who still remember Lee Sin R bug that instantly kills baron

  • @Holasoyfelipesochao
    @Holasoyfelipesochao Місяць тому

    this isnt the same bug that ppl used to like clear baron ultra fast with Lee R?

  • @derier1000
    @derier1000 25 днів тому

    Does anyone have any images of how riot code actually looks, legit like how is it written, I'm stupid and don't know PC but I rly rly wonder why people call it spaghetti I imagine it being a long list of words and symbols like hieroglyphics

  • @kilerek3
    @kilerek3 Місяць тому

    It seems for me like they took leesin one shot baron bug and applied it on champions
    also decreased range needed for it to happen 😅

  • @SparkOfCorn
    @SparkOfCorn Місяць тому

    wait isnt this y lee sin was able to oneshot baron earlier in the season

  • @monke9096
    @monke9096 Місяць тому

    Does it work on fiora too?

  • @heitorbraga5910
    @heitorbraga5910 29 днів тому

    does this happen with morg black shield?

  • @Trisander
    @Trisander 27 днів тому

    Just a silly little oversight

  • @johnkisaragi5920
    @johnkisaragi5920 Місяць тому

    Morgana be like 🥵

  • @Isa77654
    @Isa77654 Місяць тому

    its intended :)

  • @Gabonidaz
    @Gabonidaz 25 днів тому

    These are the developers who put vanguard in your machine btw. Totally safe for sure.

  • @greezmonke3904
    @greezmonke3904 Місяць тому

    Spaghetti codes

  • @nicorodriguez7329
    @nicorodriguez7329 Місяць тому

    new visual movement and skills are all soooooo slooow, they look out of pace

  • @Yamato-xm7nj
    @Yamato-xm7nj Місяць тому +2

    That's a feature. You all understand nothing.

  • @qwertzritter5197
    @qwertzritter5197 29 днів тому

    I didnt realize lee was getting an update, and im reading it was even just a visual one ... why? I would have an instant example of a more deserving one, but there have to be quiet some older champs who didnt get updated yet, no? Way to go breaking the champ with a visual update tho xD

  • @celloj3703
    @celloj3703 27 днів тому

    Rito moment