@@kerry-j4m naw he’s a overrated defender he’s not even the best defender on his team y’all acting like mj did some against guys with size like bird magic dr j I watched em all play Jordan locked up weaker smaller pg and 2 guards as soon as the league changed in early 2000s there were no more smaller guards that couldn’t score the ball
@@Zee-i4ewe know Pippen was a better defender but Sheed is reaching. I respect him saying Kareem is goat but MJ was a great defender. Sheed acting like Nique and Bird are chopped liver. Shi, Drexler MJ up as well but it don't make him not be great defender. Lol
@@kerry-j4m doesn’t matter his own coach said he wasn’t , Tim Donahue along with other refs were caught cheating and agreed that Jordan was allowed different rules due to fan fare and nba marketing the man wasn’t trash defensively but he wasn’t no damn 9 time 1st defensive player that’s pippen Ron Harper Kobe was 12 times first defensive and he learned from the glove and Scottie makes sense cause they were way better defenders
The average heights for the first 4 years of Wilts Career was 6ft5 Overall and 6ft 10 for bigs, every year after it was 6ft6 overall and 6ft10 for bigs. They same as now and can be said for Bill Russell Bill Played majority of the HOFers I list for Wilt (40/62) while also playing against HOFers Earl Lloyd, Paul Arizin, Neil Johnston, Nat “Sweetwater” Clifton, Ed Macauley, Vern Mikkelson, Bob Houbergs, Maurice Stokes, Wilt( Obviously) and Billy Cunningham Wilt Played Hall Of Famers Bill Russell , Schayes, Costello, Guerin,McGuire, Carl Braun, Slater Martin, Pettit, Hagan, Lovellette, Slick Leonard, Yardley, Twyman, Greer, Gola, Guy Rodgers, Baylor, Embry, Wilkens, Howell, West, Robertson, Bellamy, Debusschere, Beaty, Chet Walker, Lucas, Thurmond, Attles, Gus Johnson, Willis Reed,Rick Barry, Sloan, Goodrich, Lou Hudson, Bing, Earl Monroe, Unseld,Elvin Hayes, Walt Frazier, Bill Bradley, Sam and KC Jones, Cousy, Heinshon, Frank Ramsey, Sharman, Tom Sanders, Havilcek, Kareem, Dandridge,JoJo White, Connie Hawkins, Cowens, Maravich, Tiny Archibald, Lanier,Tomjanovich, Calvin Murphy, Charlie Scott, Haywood And Mcadoo. So that’s 62 total and 17 C or PF/C who still matches up against him.
Remember the Piston season ticket holder 1st row behind the backboard , near the Pistons bench Sheed??!! I met him a few times, I was in the second row from time to time❤
The GOAT isn't just about basketball? No. It's just about basketball. I've never heard merchandise or charisma mentioned in any GOAT conversations before.
Rasheed is so far off here but I love how Michael Jordan stays silent enjoying his life while others keep on talking. Man hasn't played in well over 20yrs yet he's mentioned by someone somewhere every day which to me speaks volumes.
And just when everyone indeed stopped talking about him, he did nothing, just produced The Last Dance. Now we're in the fourth year of the GOAT debate frenzy (with his name being mentioned, rightfully so, all the time). He indeed doesn't have say anything.
A REAL POTHEAD CONTRARIAN PERSPECTIVE. I'm Sure You Like Hearing BOZOS play the CONTRARIAN role but its really OLD and ANNOYING at this point. Rasheed Doesn't wanna AGREE with the MAJORITY ((WE GET IT)) However getting on a platform and JUST SAYING COMPLETE BULLSH#T is the Problem I Have With Him. NOT ONE BIT or OUNCE of this SHT is backed up in TRUTH, STATS, LOGIC, or even REALNESS! Rasheed is just Being a REAL CONTRARIAN thats all he's good at doing. Just cause you can get on a Platform and Say a bunch of BULLSH#T and Say it CONVINCINGLY does not make None of it TRUE.
Michael Jackson was Not that great of a Dancer. Tiger Woods is not that great of a Golfer. Mahammad Ali was Not that Great of a Boxer. Hakeem Olajuan was Not that Great of a Defender.
Rasheed Wallace came in the NBA in 1995! Jordan had already won DPOY, was 6X First Team All defense, won 3 NBA Titles, and retired once! He never played against or saw prime Jordan. He only saw "last dance" Jordan who STILL made first team all defense and won 3 more rings while doing it
KG didn't want none of Melo's smoke when he stayed on his team bus,did he ??? Said Melo's then wife La-La tasted like honey nut cheerios during a game to Melo during the game.But,when Melo-PULLED-up,KD hid on his bus like a-SIMP. LOL.
Sheed is the 🐐. Always my #1 High basketball IQ, super talented athletically, incredibly tough mentally & physically. Name a better trash talker…you can’t or you’re wrong. Had the refs against him, still prevailed. Besides the basketball, just such an entertainer/personality. Sheed is and always has been unapologetically him. That takes a lot of self-confidence. Big smile, big guy, big 🧠! #NeedForSheed 🖤🏀🔥💪
Sheed needs to check MJ's resume-9 times all nba defensive teams made. How many did he make ??? NONE. Scoring leader 10 times in the nba. Sheed still smoking that WOOWEEE !!! LOL.
They say: MJ doesnt guard the best players on opponents team 🤔 MJ is a SG Patrick Ewing is a Center , MJ dunked on David Robinson too Mutombo too Barkley is a Forward Karl Malone is a PF so is Shawn Kemp KG Webber Rasheed wallace Larry Bird Dominique DrJ Worthy Alex English Chris mullen Adrian dantley Bernard King Grant hill Paul Pierce Glen Robinson Sean Elliott are SF Stockton was a PG Gary Payton JKidd Penny Magic A I Isaiah Tim Hardaway KJ Mark Price Rod Strickland Starbury His SG peers were Clyde Moncrief Dumars reggie Mcooper Harper Robertson starks Steve smith allen houstan eddie jones dan majerle nick anderson vernon maxwell He guarded his position sheeesh
Here's beast mode Rasheed career per game stats you bragging on ppg 14.4/rebs 6.7/assist 1.8/fgpct 46.7.-This buster was a forward and only avg6.7 rebs, and a bellow 50pct shooter as a forward! MJs stats better than that as a 6'6' guard. And if you think this stats are wrong goggle Rasheed Wallace career stats like I did. This shocked me. These numbers are terrible for a forward. Bellow 50pct fg pct. MJs is 47.9 as a 6'6'guard. And Rasheed pouring salt on MJ. Say no to drugs sheed!
RASHEED IS A CONTRARIAN HE BEEN LIKE THAT HIS WHOLE LIFE. IF EVERYBODY AGREES TO SOMETHING HE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE DIFFERENT. ITS COOL SOMETIMES BUT MANY TIMES HE MAKES A FOOL OF HIMSELF. THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT IS COMPLETE BULLSHT and HE REALLY LOST ALL RESPECT CLAIMING MJ wasn't a GREAT DEFENDER. THE VIDEOS, STATS, and PLAYERS HE GUARDED STATS ((SHOW THE TRUTH)) AINT NO 2 GUARD IN THE HISTORY of the NBA BEEN BETTER THAN MJ especially in his PRIME. RASHEED NO LONGER HAS ANY CREDIBILITY IN BASKETBALL DISCUSSIONS. AINT NOTHING REAL ABOUT GETTING UP THERE LYING AND MAKING UP SHT JUST TO BE A ((CONTRARIAN)) WITH ABSOLUTELY ZERO PROOF! RASHEED IS A CLOWN NOW THATS REAL!
@BrotherChancyThey weren’t doing it. The casuals were doing it. But even still, with time you can look back and change your crazy options, like that a guy who was an MVP once in 20 years and a second option for over half his rings is close to a GOAT convo 😂
@@hardwoodthought1213they kind of were making comparisons because Kobe was fresh off back2back title tuns, but it was more for entertainment and not an actual serious debate like his fanboys like to believe
I love you sheed but u trippin on jordan. U can't just say oh such and such scored 25 and it's on jordan just because they play the same position. He also led the league in scoring, most players are NOT elite 2 way players playing both sides every play. Look at the top scorers now, barely any of them play D
MJ was GOAT status by the time he won his first rings. His resume is perfect. And he never called himself the GOAT. He just made sure the world knew he’d dominate the game anytime he wanted.
Not sure what media u was watching back then ...most ppl had wilt as the goat in the late 80s with...magic bird and jordan bring on the mt Rushmore....jordan wasnt seem as the goat universally till 93 at the very least
@@TheTonytone77 that’s what I’m saying my dude! By the time he won his first ringS. In 92 he was already telling the Dream Team that their time was up. Retired in 93 after a dynasty run. But he’s NEVER (to my knowledge and Pippen’s testimony) called himself the GOAT or even entertained the convo. Always says we’ll never know who the GOAT is because these guys can’t all play each other in their primes. But he does expect you to understand he’ll dominate the game if he’s playing. I do remember him saying that.
@@TheTonytone77 I grew up in the Chicago area back then and was NOT a Bulls fan. He was the greatest, most feared player in the league for years by the time he won his first rings. I don't remember anyone calling him the GOAT at that point. I would have been having regular, heated conversations with friends if they were calling him the GOAT, but I didn't. Fans had higher standards back then though and more respect for all the greats.
With sheed logic, someone can start their career with 7 straight finals mvps and wont be considered the goat until you retire... im sick and tired of people counting charisma in conversations that havet to do with basketball. Its 100% who is the best player on the court.
I agree he lost me with that off the court and throwing team functions lol most ppl just come to do their job and go home it’s starting seem like a lot of ppl resent MJ because of what he did for the game triumphs everyone else and he changed the evolution of the game I remember when I was growing up everybody wanted to be like mike
The TRUTH just cause THIS POTHEAD who constantly got suspended and thrown outta games Said So? This POTHEAD Never even played vs PRIME MJ and only played in 9 Games vs Old MJ and LOST 7 of em. He's Not Qualified to even be having an OPINION on MJ when he couldn't even make ALL DEFENSIVE TEAM 1 Time his ENTIRE CAREER. THAT'S THE TRUTH!
Sheed been a hater he speaks without know the facts clearly he was wrong about shaq being swept and ol boy pulled it up lol E-40 has a song about Sheed hating lol
Props to Sheed for speaking the truth about MJ. He isn’t a Jordan hater. I am a Jordan fan but it irks when people deify him like he never came out 0-10 and end the game with 30+ points or the fact that he went against lesser competition after the Pistons, Lakers and Celtics were in the rear view.
Agreed. But he never had a real squad to compete with Celtics, lakers, pistons hall of fame lineups when they were in their primes. I always wish we could see one of Jordan’s 90s teams compete in the 80s.
Sheed is right about Jordan getting calls. Hes the one that the nba started giving calls to superstars. Also, when they arent calling fouls on him, its much easier to get steals and blocks then lol
They was saying Mike was the GOAT after his third ring. Even when Magic had 5 rings at that point. Mike was different. But so was the way the game was marketed back then.
They gave MJ the goat title after his first title. Which makes Sheed point about the media backing and banking on MJ, even before he deserved to be in the conversation 😂
@@jimmiethomas7857nah Jordan had push from David stern to take the NBA to the next level which he did. Stating the truth isn’t hate. Everyone over 35 knows this bro
He couldn't be pushed if the game wasn't saying the same. Ask Zion Williamson. They wanted to push Zion but the game and ethic is not matching. Facts are on the court Jordan was always him. Facts are as talented as Sheed was he under achieve as a player because of his attitude. He was just as talented as Duncan but never came to play every night. When Sheed was on the court against MJ he was 2-7 Jordan avg. 32ppg 5reb 3ast... shit I would hate on MJ 25 yrs later too lol 😆 😂 🤣
He got push because of his performance alone and Mike was on the last US Olympics team full of collegiate players. And Jordan in his senior year was cooking Magic and Bird before joining the NBA. 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly what’s NEEDED fr!! UNDERDOG SPORTS MEDIA is becoming the G.O.A.T. #REALSPORTSMEDIA 💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥 Ps: Lost me after sayin “The captain” the GOAT.. LIKE 2007 Eastern Conference finals NEVER HAPPENED 😭😭😭
Sheed is going to lose credibility if he goes on saying MJ wasn’t a great defender… won a DPOY award & the MVP in the same year. For all the great defense you did play Sheed you were never even in consideration for that award. & Sheed was an excellent defender !NFZ! No one ever challenged MJ as a elite defender of the guys he played against. His superhuman energy level (especially in his prime) made him able to be a dog on both ends of the floor. & no… sorry …Shaq is not in the convo, Dominant as he was. He had major flaws in his game despite his great powers & was never in great shape… disqualified on effort to prepare alone aside from the other reasons. Dream was the best big ever anyways. His prime was second to none. MJ is the GOAT… & that’s coming from me, as a die hard Bad Boy & Goin to work fan! Loved our teams. Some of the best team basketball ever from those teams. With classic rules they could play w & beat anybody on any given night.
Agreed except in their prime, Shaq was killing everyone and his peak was greater than Hakeem’s. 3 second rule was implemented because of how dominant Shaq was.
@mcmorelane3818 I mean having ur own opinions shldnt be the reason u don't get invited to a podcast.....ijs pretty much erryone in the comments never played on a professional level or won a championship ........I would say sheed conversation on basketball is a more credibility then anyone is dese comments.......
@@themessenger1984 yeah he has more credibility but you have something called a brain and can call him out when he says something out of pocket. Like MJ wasn’t a good defender. Just because you’re an athlete doesn’t mean you always have good takes
Yo Sheed big fan since Gratz My Cuzn Jahmal Redmond went to a lot of games. I remember going to the game against Reading Epic y’all snapped How good was Mall I can’t recall. Question from a fan
@sheed...as a goat you need to be feared, Jordan, Kobe, Bird, and Shaq in the last 40 years are in that list. Kareem is great like LBJ, not feared, bro.
Michael Jordan Outscored 982 of the 983 Opponents He Played Against . The only player who outscored Jordan was Allen Iverson. In Michael Jordans 37 playoff series, he faced 269 different players. He outscored 268 of them. The only player to ever outscore MJ in a series was Terry Cummings, who did it by a single point in MJ's rookie year by avging 29.5ppg
I would co-sign that Kareem pick but he didn’t have(or need) handles, athleticism, amazing court vision, a jump shot….Wilt and Russell played in an era that they were supposed to do what they did. Imagine Dream or Shaq in their era….. numbers would’ve been berserk.
Would Shaq and Hakeem have to abide by the 60s traveling and offensive fouls rules? Their games would take a step back due to the rules. Wilt and Russell’s game would be enhanced by 90s early 2000s rules.
I would take "The Joker" over K.D. I'm black and I think if a black player won a chip, and putting up the numbers that the "Joker" puts up he'd be the face of the league
Bro he’s a center lol big slow boring centers have never been the face of the league since the 1970’s. Joker plays good but he’s no where near any goat lists
I played hockey and if I was in the NHL I would rather win a championship. MVP is too subjective. The cup is earned. Plus your name is etched on the cup for eternity
If A.I would of won a ring he could if been in the goat debate..He was a Dilemma, Problem, Epidemic, Virus, that could not be Cured or Controlled or Contained. Kobe said, AI was his most difficult opponent. You can't prepare for him. IVERSON was a gladiator. He played on the court...like it was a battlefield..He made some of the best ballplayers become a Casualty of War.
First Off A.I. Is a GOAT. He's the GOAT of ALL NBA Players 6'0 and Under. No Player in NBA History at that height was better than him. There will Never be another DOMINATE Player who is THAT SIZE to Lead the NBA.
Me and Tyler thinks basically almost exactly the same when it comes to the NBA. He brought up every point to Sheed that I would have… 😂 but it seems like Rasheed always ends up confusing him! (Also how much is he drinking when they make these LOL)
C’mon man, stop the bs. Clown LeBron all you want, but anyone objective knows that LeBron in his prime was arguably the best defender in the league. He wasn’t a lockdown defender like a guard, but he was the most versatile defender in his prime. I’ll give you that once he left Miami he stopped caring as much about it in the regular season. But he was always still great in the playoffs. It’s easy to hate on his defense now because he’s old and can be a liability at times during the regular season. But when he was in his prime, dude was an all-time great defender.
@@kevinmurtagh4996 Very objective post. The Kobe fanboys who claim LBJ was never good at defence because he slacked off playing it in the regular season post Miami love ignoring Kobe did the same thing
GOAT IS BASED ON WHAT? . RUSSELL GOT THE RINGS, WILT GOT RECORDS 2 CENTERS. MIKE GOT THE ACCOLADES, SCORING CHAMP, DEFENSIVE PLAYER, DUNK CHAMP, 2 3PEATS, MOST POINTS SEEM TO NEVER MATTERED, SO WHAT MAKES THE GOAT?
Sheed's questioned J's defense by saying a number of players torched J. Name a player that didn't get dominated in their career. Sheed refused to admit J earned every defensive honor throughout his career. Name five guards better?
LOL you should know that a lot of players from the 90s still played in the early to mid 2000s. Are u saying that lebron's ROTY award should not count bec. he played with UPS and FEDEX workers?
Rasheed Speaks the TRUTH on WHAT? That POTHEAD will say anything to be a CONTRARIAN. Rasheed is a POTHEAD who Got Kicked Out and Suspended Numerous times for SMOKING WEED and ALWAYS Starting Fights and Getting Technical Fouls. YOU WANNA HEAR SOME TRUTH? Rahseed Never Played against Prime Mj--->TRUTH Rasheed Played against 39yr Old Mj and LOST 7 out of 9--->TRUTH Rahseed Never Was All Defensive NBA even as a Powerforward/Center yet Mj was as a Guard 9X--->TRUTH Rasheed Never Lead the League in NO DEFENSIVE STAT or LOCKED UP any of his OPPONENTS MJ DID--->TRUTH Rasheed Never Carried his Team with his DEFENSE or OFFENSE MJ DID--->TRUTH Rasheed is a PF/C who got Out Rebounded, Out Blocked, Out Stole, by MJ as a GUARD his first 5 seasons. --->TRUTH Rasheed got EJECTED/TECHNICAL FOULED out of More Games than there are in an NBA SEASON. ---->TRUTH Rasheed Wallace ENTIRE RESUME on DEFENSE is TRASH for a Power Forward--->TRUTH IS THAT ENOUGH (((TRUTH))) for you? I CAN KEEP GOING?
There's no such thing as lock down in basketball and MJ absolutely hammered people on def just the stats show that his blocks are the highest ever at his position. Led in steals he was sticky on ball he was a great defender
Jordan is the Most TALENTED, LOVED/HATED, and ICONIC Player to ever play the Game. Rasheed Wallace is nothing but a CONTRARIAN thats all he's ever been his whole life. Rasheed Lost All Credibility saying this Foolishness and he barely had any left as it is.
When did the GOAT status of basketball become off court related topics? Lol. I'm glad he said "to me" because that off the court stuff has nothing to do with stats of the NBA. That should be a GOAT of another division.
I gotta partly disagree with Sheed on what constitutes a goat. I say it’s the accomplishments relative to the talent they compete against, skillset, and their impact on basketball.
There's a lot of losers with big endorsements. Hell zion barely plays and he's signed to jordan brand. Ja Morant got suspended and he's still with nike. Rather u win a chip or not u still can get endorsements
I love Kobe Bryant for being the most knowledgeable and skilled basketball player ever KOBE BRYANT IS MY DUDE, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A MORE SKILLFUL BASKETBALL PLAYER, HIS INTELLIGENCE WAS JUST ABOVE AVERAGE, THE KID WAS PHENOMENAL HANDS DOWN 👍✌️💯
MICHAEL JORDAN is the greatest NBA player all time. Point blank. The only reason the products and commercials sold was BECAUSE he was the GOAT. Converse don’t sell if Magic, Bird and Doc ain’t who they are. Kobe is top 10 inarguably but not the GOAT (my favorite player). You can’t be the goat if you’d be on the ALLTIME 2nd team. T1 MJ Magic LBJ Duncan Kareem T2 Steph Kobe Bird Shaq Russell T3 Thomas Wade Doc Hakeem Wilt
Tim Duncan is the king of trash talk. “You gotta be quicker than that.” 😂
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@dariusdainurse, or glass lol
Rasheed sounds like a hater with MJ, MJ definitely was a great defender and player's even said that, everyone can get their ass bust in ball.
MJ made the all nba defensive team 9 times and scoring leader 10 times. Sheed lead the nba in technical fouls tho,plus ejections. LOL.
@@kerry-j4m naw he’s a overrated defender he’s not even the best defender on his team y’all acting like mj did some against guys with size like bird magic dr j I watched em all play Jordan locked up weaker smaller pg and 2 guards as soon as the league changed in early 2000s there were no more smaller guards that couldn’t score the ball
@@Zee-i4e MJ made the all nba defensive team 9 times.
@@Zee-i4ewe know Pippen was a better defender but Sheed is reaching. I respect him saying Kareem is goat but MJ was a great defender. Sheed acting like Nique and Bird are chopped liver. Shi, Drexler MJ up as well but it don't make him not be great defender. Lol
@@kerry-j4m doesn’t matter his own coach said he wasn’t , Tim Donahue along with other refs were caught cheating and agreed that Jordan was allowed different rules due to fan fare and nba marketing the man wasn’t trash defensively but he wasn’t no damn 9 time 1st defensive player that’s pippen Ron Harper
Kobe was 12 times first defensive and he learned from the glove and Scottie makes sense cause they were way better defenders
I like how Sheed keeping it 100
This show is good the honesty is pure sheeds a PA Legend
The average heights for the first 4 years of Wilts Career was 6ft5 Overall and 6ft 10 for bigs, every year after it was 6ft6 overall and 6ft10 for bigs. They same as now and can be said for Bill Russell
Bill Played majority of the HOFers I list for Wilt (40/62) while also playing against HOFers Earl Lloyd, Paul Arizin, Neil Johnston, Nat “Sweetwater” Clifton, Ed Macauley, Vern Mikkelson, Bob Houbergs, Maurice Stokes, Wilt( Obviously) and Billy Cunningham
Wilt Played Hall Of Famers Bill Russell , Schayes, Costello, Guerin,McGuire, Carl Braun, Slater Martin, Pettit, Hagan, Lovellette, Slick Leonard, Yardley, Twyman, Greer, Gola, Guy Rodgers, Baylor, Embry, Wilkens, Howell, West, Robertson, Bellamy, Debusschere, Beaty, Chet Walker, Lucas, Thurmond, Attles, Gus Johnson, Willis Reed,Rick Barry, Sloan, Goodrich, Lou Hudson, Bing, Earl Monroe, Unseld,Elvin Hayes, Walt Frazier, Bill Bradley, Sam and KC Jones, Cousy, Heinshon, Frank Ramsey, Sharman, Tom Sanders, Havilcek, Kareem, Dandridge,JoJo White, Connie Hawkins, Cowens, Maravich, Tiny Archibald, Lanier,Tomjanovich, Calvin Murphy, Charlie Scott, Haywood And Mcadoo. So that’s 62 total and 17 C or PF/C who still matches up against him.
Sheed you doing thing keep it up bro
Sheed the realest one out here in this pod game. Respect
Remember the Piston season ticket holder 1st row behind the backboard , near the Pistons bench Sheed??!! I met him a few times, I was in the second row from time to time❤
The GOAT isn't just about basketball? No. It's just about basketball. I've never heard merchandise or charisma mentioned in any GOAT conversations before.
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8:10
"You hit that note"
"No doubt"
😂😂😂😂😂
Literally just happened
Goat arguments are stupid, we all have favorites, but it's a team sport, and different era's so much context it's impossible to objectively measure.
Comparing eras isn't too hard.
@@penkima4923 If you don't care about telling the truth then yes.
So Jesus Christ is not a goat?
@@larryjam9013 Definitely not!
Rasheed is so far off here but I love how Michael Jordan stays silent enjoying his life while others keep on talking. Man hasn't played in well over 20yrs yet he's mentioned by someone somewhere every day which to me speaks volumes.
He’s still mentioned because of his shoes, bruh.
@@BullseyeTr3Dawg Pretty sure that's not the only reason.
@@BullseyeTr3Dawgtheres tons of players mentioned that dont have shoes bruh ...are u serious...more ppl think jordan the goat
And just when everyone indeed stopped talking about him, he did nothing, just produced The Last Dance. Now we're in the fourth year of the GOAT debate frenzy (with his name being mentioned, rightfully so, all the time). He indeed doesn't have say anything.
MJ never silent! He made a movie for Pete sakes! Interviews etc…. Yall kill me trying make MJ this saint!
Always cool hearing Sheed talk about the league from a real perspective
A REAL POTHEAD CONTRARIAN PERSPECTIVE.
I'm Sure You Like Hearing BOZOS play the CONTRARIAN role but its really OLD and ANNOYING at this point.
Rasheed Doesn't wanna AGREE with the MAJORITY ((WE GET IT)) However getting on a platform and JUST SAYING COMPLETE BULLSH#T is the Problem I Have With Him.
NOT ONE BIT or OUNCE of this SHT is backed up in TRUTH, STATS, LOGIC, or even REALNESS!
Rasheed is just Being a REAL CONTRARIAN thats all he's good at doing.
Just cause you can get on a Platform and Say a bunch of BULLSH#T and Say it CONVINCINGLY does not make None of it TRUE.
Michael Jackson was Not that great of a Dancer.
Tiger Woods is not that great of a Golfer.
Mahammad Ali was Not that Great of a Boxer.
Hakeem Olajuan was Not that Great of a Defender.
Rasheed Wallace came in the NBA in 1995! Jordan had already won DPOY, was 6X First Team All defense, won 3 NBA Titles, and retired once! He never played against or saw prime Jordan. He only saw "last dance" Jordan who STILL made first team all defense and won 3 more rings while doing it
8:08 needs to be a GIF immediately 😂
😂😂😂😂
KG & Gary Payton are the GOAT’s of trash talk.
What about Larry?
Larry bird no question.
KG didn't want none of Melo's smoke when he stayed on his team bus,did he ??? Said Melo's then wife La-La tasted like honey nut cheerios during a game to Melo during the game.But,when Melo-PULLED-up,KD hid on his bus like a-SIMP. LOL.
If Gary says Bird seriously it’s Bird all day long
Sheeds BALL DONT LIE at the free throw line will be here forever.. thanks for the ship 2004 stones
Sheed is the 🐐.
Always my #1
High basketball IQ, super talented athletically, incredibly tough mentally & physically. Name a better trash talker…you can’t or you’re wrong. Had the refs against him, still prevailed.
Besides the basketball, just such an entertainer/personality.
Sheed is and always has been unapologetically him. That takes a lot of self-confidence.
Big smile, big guy, big 🧠!
#NeedForSheed 🖤🏀🔥💪
Let’s see Kevin Garnett and Gary Payton. I just did and I’m right.
Tim Duncan "ooooh, nice try"
Sheed needs to check MJ's resume-9 times all nba defensive teams made. How many did he make ??? NONE. Scoring leader 10 times in the nba. Sheed still smoking that WOOWEEE !!! LOL.
Larry Bird
Hey everyone, I found Sheed's burner account.
Jordan didn’t guard Nique… Nique was a 3 Jordan a 2
big ol narrative MJ/NIQUE duel...meanwhile pips face guarding nique...and MJS over here talking jive to a player like GLENN
Exactly or bird
Yea u didn't watch😂
This ain’t a video game bro 😂 he definitely guarded em
They say: MJ doesnt guard the best players on opponents team
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MJ is a SG
Patrick Ewing is a Center , MJ dunked on David Robinson too Mutombo too
Barkley is a Forward Karl Malone is a PF so is Shawn Kemp KG Webber Rasheed wallace
Larry Bird Dominique DrJ Worthy Alex English Chris mullen Adrian dantley Bernard King Grant hill Paul Pierce Glen Robinson Sean Elliott are SF
Stockton was a PG Gary Payton JKidd Penny Magic A I Isaiah Tim Hardaway KJ Mark Price Rod Strickland Starbury
His SG peers were Clyde Moncrief Dumars reggie Mcooper Harper Robertson starks Steve smith allen houstan eddie jones dan majerle nick anderson vernon maxwell
He guarded his position sheeesh
Sheed is a realist…… your game was beast mode, inside outside…… one of my favorite players, Detroit basketball
Here's beast mode Rasheed career per game stats you bragging on ppg 14.4/rebs 6.7/assist 1.8/fgpct 46.7.-This buster was a forward and only avg6.7 rebs, and a bellow 50pct shooter as a forward! MJs stats better than that as a 6'6' guard. And if you think this stats are wrong goggle Rasheed Wallace career stats like I did. This shocked me. These numbers are terrible for a forward. Bellow 50pct fg pct. MJs is 47.9 as a 6'6'guard. And Rasheed pouring salt on MJ. Say no to drugs sheed!
RASHEED IS A CONTRARIAN HE BEEN LIKE THAT HIS WHOLE LIFE.
IF EVERYBODY AGREES TO SOMETHING HE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE DIFFERENT.
ITS COOL SOMETIMES BUT MANY TIMES HE MAKES A FOOL OF HIMSELF.
THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT IS COMPLETE BULLSHT and HE REALLY LOST ALL RESPECT CLAIMING MJ wasn't a GREAT DEFENDER.
THE VIDEOS, STATS, and PLAYERS HE GUARDED STATS ((SHOW THE TRUTH))
AINT NO 2 GUARD IN THE HISTORY of the NBA BEEN BETTER THAN MJ especially in his PRIME.
RASHEED NO LONGER HAS ANY CREDIBILITY IN BASKETBALL DISCUSSIONS.
AINT NOTHING REAL ABOUT GETTING UP THERE LYING AND MAKING UP SHT JUST TO BE A ((CONTRARIAN)) WITH ABSOLUTELY ZERO PROOF!
RASHEED IS A CLOWN NOW THATS REAL!
They was comparing Kobe to Mike as the goat 2010 after the back back championships. I remember I watched it
@BrotherChancyThey weren’t doing it. The casuals were doing it.
But even still, with time you can look back and change your crazy options, like that a guy who was an MVP once in 20 years and a second option for over half his rings is close to a GOAT convo 😂
@@hardwoodthought1213they kind of were making comparisons because Kobe was fresh off back2back title tuns, but it was more for entertainment and not an actual serious debate like his fanboys like to believe
Sheed called Wemby Wamba Wamba 😂😂
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You should watch old sheed highlights with him, and have him comment on them
I love you sheed but u trippin on jordan. U can't just say oh such and such scored 25 and it's on jordan just because they play the same position. He also led the league in scoring, most players are NOT elite 2 way players playing both sides every play. Look at the top scorers now, barely any of them play D
Dr Jay. Opened the door for the advertising.
MJ was GOAT status by the time he won his first rings. His resume is perfect. And he never called himself the GOAT. He just made sure the world knew he’d dominate the game anytime he wanted.
Not sure what media u was watching back then ...most ppl had wilt as the goat in the late 80s with...magic bird and jordan bring on the mt Rushmore....jordan wasnt seem as the goat universally till 93 at the very least
@@TheTonytone77 that’s what I’m saying my dude! By the time he won his first ringS. In 92 he was already telling the Dream Team that their time was up. Retired in 93 after a dynasty run.
But he’s NEVER (to my knowledge and Pippen’s testimony) called himself the GOAT or even entertained the convo. Always says we’ll never know who the GOAT is because these guys can’t all play each other in their primes. But he does expect you to understand he’ll dominate the game if he’s playing. I do remember him saying that.
@@TheTonytone77 I grew up in the Chicago area back then and was NOT a Bulls fan. He was the greatest, most feared player in the league for years by the time he won his first rings. I don't remember anyone calling him the GOAT at that point. I would have been having regular, heated conversations with friends if they were calling him the GOAT, but I didn't. Fans had higher standards back then though and more respect for all the greats.
😂😂😂 bruh he didn't start winning until Phil and Scottie got there, Larry Bird beat him 6 times MJ no games
With sheed logic, someone can start their career with 7 straight finals mvps and wont be considered the goat until you retire... im sick and tired of people counting charisma in conversations that havet to do with basketball. Its 100% who is the best player on the court.
I agree he lost me with that off the court and throwing team functions lol most ppl just come to do their job and go home it’s starting seem like a lot of ppl resent MJ because of what he did for the game triumphs everyone else and he changed the evolution of the game I remember when I was growing up everybody wanted to be like mike
We talkin bout the goat. Not a off the court. Goat. I mean we talkin about the goat
They can't handle the truth
The TRUTH just cause THIS POTHEAD who constantly got suspended and thrown outta games Said So?
This POTHEAD Never even played vs PRIME MJ and only played in 9 Games vs Old MJ and LOST 7 of em.
He's Not Qualified to even be having an OPINION on MJ when he couldn't even make ALL DEFENSIVE TEAM 1 Time his ENTIRE CAREER.
THAT'S THE TRUTH!
If you notice some Guys who played at Carolina are bitter because he didn't hire them to endorse his shoes...
Sheed had his own Nike PE/SiG 🙄
Y'all Use That Bullshit Every Time a Player Don't Pick Jordan..FOH!! How Is Everybody Mad Or Jealous 😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏿♂️
Sheed my dude but he's a MJ hater
Sheed been a hater he speaks without know the facts clearly he was wrong about shaq being swept and ol boy pulled it up lol E-40 has a song about Sheed hating lol
Shees I'm from Compton I fuck with you... Too your argument Cap was an international star to he was in movie with Bruce Lee
That don't make him the goat 😂 jordan is known around the world kids these day don't even know who Kareem is 😂
Sheed makes a great point for goat for Kareem
Props to Sheed for speaking the truth about MJ. He isn’t a Jordan hater. I am a Jordan fan but it irks when people deify him like he never came out 0-10 and end the game with 30+ points or the fact that he went against lesser competition after the Pistons, Lakers and Celtics were in the rear view.
Agreed. But he never had a real squad to compete with Celtics, lakers, pistons hall of fame
lineups when they were in their primes. I always wish we could see one of Jordan’s 90s teams compete in the 80s.
Sheed is right about Jordan getting calls. Hes the one that the nba started giving calls to superstars. Also, when they arent calling fouls on him, its much easier to get steals and blocks then lol
They was saying Mike was the GOAT after his third ring. Even when Magic had 5 rings at that point. Mike was different. But so was the way the game was marketed back then.
They gave MJ the goat title after his first title. Which makes Sheed point about the media backing and banking on MJ, even before he deserved to be in the conversation 😂
You the best true power forward ever my boy and a real being
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Agree with Sheed, MJ was the NBA darling.. Had alot of push from media etc.. Heck of a player for sure. 👍🏽
MJ The goat sheed a hater
@@jimmiethomas7857nah Jordan had push from David stern to take the NBA to the next level which he did. Stating the truth isn’t hate. Everyone over 35 knows this bro
He couldn't be pushed if the game wasn't saying the same. Ask Zion Williamson. They wanted to push Zion but the game and ethic is not matching. Facts are on the court Jordan was always him. Facts are as talented as Sheed was he under achieve as a player because of his attitude. He was just as talented as Duncan but never came to play every night. When Sheed was on the court against MJ he was 2-7 Jordan avg. 32ppg 5reb 3ast... shit I would hate on MJ 25 yrs later too lol 😆 😂 🤣
So what? He earned that right. Superstars get calls. You want to act as if Lebron doesn’t benefit from his star status? MJ is goat
He got push because of his performance alone and Mike was on the last US Olympics team full of collegiate players. And Jordan in his senior year was cooking Magic and Bird before joining the NBA. 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly what’s NEEDED fr!! UNDERDOG SPORTS MEDIA is becoming the G.O.A.T. #REALSPORTSMEDIA 💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
Ps: Lost me after sayin “The captain” the GOAT.. LIKE 2007 Eastern Conference finals NEVER HAPPENED 😭😭😭
LOL! Sheed did not know the Mariners existed. 30:30
Bro Sheed Hating On Mike So Hard lol
He's a Piston.
Sheed is going to lose credibility if he goes on saying MJ wasn’t a great defender… won a DPOY award & the MVP in the same year. For all the great defense you did play Sheed you were never even in consideration for that award. & Sheed was an excellent defender !NFZ!
No one ever challenged MJ as a elite defender of the guys he played against. His superhuman energy level (especially in his prime) made him able to be a dog on both ends of the floor.
& no… sorry …Shaq is not in the convo, Dominant as he was. He had major flaws in his game despite his great powers & was never in great shape… disqualified on effort to prepare alone aside from the other reasons.
Dream was the best big ever anyways. His prime was second to none.
MJ is the GOAT… & that’s coming from me, as a die hard Bad Boy & Goin to work fan!
Loved our teams. Some of the best team basketball ever from those teams. With classic rules they could play w & beat anybody on any given night.
It's a reason why Sheed don't get invited on major podcasts
Agreed except in their prime, Shaq was killing everyone and his peak was greater than Hakeem’s. 3 second rule was implemented because of how dominant Shaq was.
@mcmorelane3818 I mean having ur own opinions shldnt be the reason u don't get invited to a podcast.....ijs pretty much erryone in the comments never played on a professional level or won a championship ........I would say sheed conversation on basketball is a more credibility then anyone is dese comments.......
@@themessenger1984 he even played against MJ.
@@themessenger1984 yeah he has more credibility but you have something called a brain and can call him out when he says something out of pocket. Like MJ wasn’t a good defender. Just because you’re an athlete doesn’t mean you always have good takes
Yo Sheed big fan since Gratz My Cuzn Jahmal Redmond went to a lot of games. I remember going to the game against Reading Epic y’all snapped How good was Mall I can’t recall. Question from a fan
@sheed...as a goat you need to be feared, Jordan, Kobe, Bird, and Shaq in the last 40 years are in that list. Kareem is great like LBJ, not feared, bro.
Michael Jordan Outscored 982 of the 983 Opponents He Played Against
. The only player who outscored Jordan was Allen Iverson. In Michael Jordans 37 playoff series, he faced 269 different players. He outscored 268 of them. The only player to ever outscore MJ in a series was Terry Cummings, who did it by a single point in MJ's rookie year by avging 29.5ppg
I would co-sign that Kareem pick but he didn’t have(or need) handles, athleticism, amazing court vision, a jump shot….Wilt and Russell played in an era that they were supposed to do what they did. Imagine Dream or Shaq in their era….. numbers would’ve been berserk.
Would Shaq and Hakeem have to abide by the 60s traveling and offensive fouls rules? Their games would take a step back due to the rules. Wilt and Russell’s game would be enhanced by 90s early 2000s rules.
Just put everyone in the G.O.A.T debate! Base it on who had the best car since you want to base it on everything but Basketball!!
Sheed has the realest takes, especially on Jordan.
JORDAN
KOBE
…. then everyone else.
Fact
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I would take "The Joker" over K.D. I'm black and I think if a black player won a chip, and putting up the numbers that the "Joker" puts up he'd be the face of the league
I can't wait till the nuggets and there fans go away.
Bro he’s a center lol big slow boring centers have never been the face of the league since the 1970’s. Joker plays good but he’s no where near any goat lists
@@zazasnruntz7505numbers don't lie😂
Kobe 🤞🏿
Ask embid would he change his season mvp for a a finals mvp. Whoever choose season mvp over a finals one is not focused on the right things
Olajuwon was a better all around center than Shaq
They eliminated dunking from College Basketball for years because of Kareem … When they change the game because of you , you’re a Goat
I played hockey and if I was in the NHL I would rather win a championship. MVP is too subjective. The cup is earned. Plus your name is etched on the cup for eternity
D. ROSE
K. BRYANT
L. JAMES
R. WALLACE
S. O'NEAL
GOAT LINEUP
MY BENCH GONE BE CRAAAAAAZY
If A.I would of won a ring he could if been in the goat debate..He was a Dilemma, Problem, Epidemic, Virus, that could not be Cured or Controlled or Contained. Kobe said, AI was his most difficult opponent. You can't prepare for him. IVERSON was a gladiator. He played on the court...like it was a battlefield..He made some of the best ballplayers become a Casualty of War.
A.I. is a GOAT
First Off A.I. Is a GOAT. He's the GOAT of ALL NBA Players 6'0 and Under. No Player in NBA History at that height was better than him. There will Never be another DOMINATE Player who is THAT SIZE to Lead the NBA.
Jim Brown & Bo Jackson both in NCAA Hall of Fame .... Think Sheed just meant basketball players in for 2 sports tho
NBA GREATS have Kobe in GOAT talks…
LeMedia doesn’t ☕️
I couldnt agree more with Sheed's comments on MJ. Ive been saying this for years since i been a fan of the sport.
Jordan fanatics getting tight 😆
Me and Tyler thinks basically almost exactly the same when it comes to the NBA. He brought up every point to Sheed that I would have… 😂 but it seems like Rasheed always ends up confusing him! (Also how much is he drinking when they make these LOL)
man if you say that mj was not all that defender then i would love to hear your take on lebron's defense...
He once said LBJ wouldn’t dominate ‘his’ era, as if LBJ didn’t play in the Rasheed era 😂
C’mon man, stop the bs. Clown LeBron all you want, but anyone objective knows that LeBron in his prime was arguably the best defender in the league. He wasn’t a lockdown defender like a guard, but he was the most versatile defender in his prime. I’ll give you that once he left Miami he stopped caring as much about it in the regular season. But he was always still great in the playoffs. It’s easy to hate on his defense now because he’s old and can be a liability at times during the regular season. But when he was in his prime, dude was an all-time great defender.
@@kevinmurtagh4996 Very objective post. The Kobe fanboys who claim LBJ was never good at defence because he slacked off playing it in the regular season post Miami love ignoring Kobe did the same thing
@kevinmurtagh4996 😂😂😂no he wasn't if so he would have a defense player of the year award 😂😂😂 ALL CAP
@@jimmiethomas7857 He finished runner up twice.
Kobes highest finish was 5th
So your own logic has LBJ>>>>>Kobe
GOAT IS BASED ON WHAT? .
RUSSELL GOT THE RINGS, WILT GOT RECORDS 2 CENTERS. MIKE GOT THE ACCOLADES, SCORING CHAMP, DEFENSIVE PLAYER, DUNK CHAMP, 2 3PEATS, MOST POINTS SEEM TO NEVER MATTERED, SO WHAT MAKES THE GOAT?
Sheed's questioned J's defense by saying a number of players torched J. Name a player that didn't get dominated in their career. Sheed refused to admit J earned every defensive honor throughout his career. Name five guards better?
1990’s basketball had ups workers and fedex workers who were just tall.
So what r they now ? Highschool players who get fat on their unmerited big contracts
No defense in today's game
LOL you should know that a lot of players from the 90s still played in the early to mid 2000s. Are u saying that lebron's ROTY award should not count bec. he played with UPS and FEDEX workers?
Wilt was a taller Shaq with Dirks touch and shotmaking, a better Hakeem on defense and MJ/LBJ level endurance, athleticism, competitiveness.
Sheed speaks the truth! Chips count... nothing else.
Then it’s Bill Russell and then everyone else.
Rasheed Speaks the TRUTH on WHAT?
That POTHEAD will say anything to be a CONTRARIAN.
Rasheed is a POTHEAD who Got Kicked Out and Suspended Numerous times for SMOKING WEED and ALWAYS Starting Fights and Getting Technical Fouls.
YOU WANNA HEAR SOME TRUTH?
Rahseed Never Played against Prime Mj--->TRUTH
Rasheed Played against 39yr Old Mj and LOST 7 out of 9--->TRUTH
Rahseed Never Was All Defensive NBA even as a Powerforward/Center yet Mj was as a Guard 9X--->TRUTH
Rasheed Never Lead the League in NO DEFENSIVE STAT or LOCKED UP any of his OPPONENTS MJ DID--->TRUTH
Rasheed Never Carried his Team with his DEFENSE or OFFENSE MJ DID--->TRUTH
Rasheed is a PF/C who got Out Rebounded, Out Blocked, Out Stole, by MJ as a GUARD his first 5 seasons. --->TRUTH
Rasheed got EJECTED/TECHNICAL FOULED out of More Games than there are in an NBA SEASON. ---->TRUTH
Rasheed Wallace ENTIRE RESUME on DEFENSE is TRASH for a Power Forward--->TRUTH
IS THAT ENOUGH (((TRUTH))) for you? I CAN KEEP GOING?
Sheed is just a MJ hater.
Mitch Richmond gave MJ work all the time. Kareem was 79 - 2 in high school and 88 - 2 in college. The NCCA outlawed the DUNK because of Kareem.
Can’t forget another argument AGAINST Russell. How many teams were in the league? Half of what there is today?
If the NBA pushed Jordan then what the hell they doing for LeBron then.
Media blitz 😆
Sheed acting like he didn't 5 game sweep Shaq in the 04 finals 😂
I believe Bron is the goat but that Kareem argument makes me want to rethink it... winning on EVERY level is hella impressive
There's no such thing as lock down in basketball and MJ absolutely hammered people on def just the stats show that his blocks are the highest ever at his position. Led in steals he was sticky on ball he was a great defender
Magic!!! Winner in junior high, high school, college, pros….. Kareem no doubt is a winner 79-2 in high school damm
Would love to hear sheeds take or experience w Shawn Kemp
Sheed @ 11:03 Mark😂😂😂😂
They need to not let Sheed drink Henney before answering questions
Barkley was lightning up Mike too...
Jordan the most TALENTED PLAYER I ever seen lace them up.
Jordan is the Most TALENTED, LOVED/HATED, and ICONIC Player to ever play the Game.
Rasheed Wallace is nothing but a CONTRARIAN thats all he's ever been his whole life.
Rasheed Lost All Credibility saying this Foolishness and he barely had any left as it is.
KOBE DOMINATED THE TOUGHEST ERA. HES THE 🐐
No he didn’t
Nahhh.....I can break down why he's overrated.
@@rexgamewellnaw I tell people the same thing, you can't be the 🐐 when you were Robin for the first 8 years of your career
Tim Duncan*
If he's your goat no one can say otherwise but saying he dominated the toughest era now that's blashpemy.
The way kobe gave back to the game mamba academy boys and girls
When did the GOAT status of basketball become off court related topics? Lol. I'm glad he said "to me" because that off the court stuff has nothing to do with stats of the NBA. That should be a GOAT of another division.
I gotta partly disagree with Sheed on what constitutes a goat. I say it’s the accomplishments relative to the talent they compete against, skillset, and their impact on basketball.
Strange defense nowadays. Luka, walked through those young boys like je was the Warden and everyone was handcuffed
There's a lot of losers with big endorsements. Hell zion barely plays and he's signed to jordan brand. Ja Morant got suspended and he's still with nike. Rather u win a chip or not u still can get endorsements
I love Kobe Bryant for being the most knowledgeable and skilled basketball player ever KOBE BRYANT IS MY DUDE, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A MORE SKILLFUL BASKETBALL PLAYER, HIS INTELLIGENCE WAS JUST ABOVE AVERAGE, THE KID WAS PHENOMENAL HANDS DOWN 👍✌️💯
No offense Sheed but u sounding pretty salty towards MJ.. Did he not sign your autograph or something? 😅
My Beloved North Philly brother 💪🏾
MICHAEL JORDAN is the greatest NBA player all time. Point blank.
The only reason the products and commercials sold was BECAUSE he was the GOAT. Converse don’t sell if Magic, Bird and Doc ain’t who they are. Kobe is top 10 inarguably but not the GOAT (my favorite player).
You can’t be the goat if you’d be on the ALLTIME 2nd team.
T1
MJ Magic LBJ Duncan Kareem
T2
Steph Kobe Bird Shaq Russell
T3
Thomas Wade Doc Hakeem Wilt
All the Jordan Stan’s head explodes
How Russle only winning on 6’4” dudes when he had to battle wilt who sheed put over shaq???
Great show good 1 two combination
Shaq wasn't on the Magic after the end of the 1996 season.
🤣🤣🤣Sheed go join Scottie, Horace and Luke.
Bro you only put up stats when it’s to solidify why Jordan is the goat so how many times did Jordan lose on the first round cause he lost a lot
Great point
Bro arguing Jordan 6 rings over shaqs 4 is crazy
I needed to be in this discussion.
If you put shaq, you must then put wilt....wilt didnt play with kobe.
SHEEDS NOT HEARING THE POORS😂
Winning at high school and NCAA has nothing to do with the NBA GOAT debate. They are lesser leagues and mean nothing at the NBA level.