I'm Worried About Mavuika...

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  • @puppetmasterpro3421
    @puppetmasterpro3421 4 години тому +32

    gotta love hoyo for making a problem that isnt there and demanding you to fix it by spending even more money

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому +4

      I honestly dont know if that was their entire idea with this, lore wise this is actually really accurate to how she functions in the story so I feel like its possible this was intended to be a cool way to show that.

    • @Kryo_GTS
      @Kryo_GTS 3 години тому +3

      They've been doing this for a while tho... A few of the Fontaine characters demanded their C1 to fix issues with their C0 kits.

    • @Hakarisdomain
      @Hakarisdomain 45 хвилин тому

      @@Kryo_GTSthey’re all playable at c0, using mavuika without premium natlan supports is going to feel a million times worse

  • @satyaki9390
    @satyaki9390 5 годин тому +46

    You forgot to mention one more F2P option … pyro Traveller 😂

    • @butter5144
      @butter5144 5 годин тому +2

      😂😒

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  5 годин тому +9

      @@satyaki9390 I don’t think I did, I’m pretty sure I said something like “traveler but we don’t know if they are actually going to use nightsoul” all it showed was a nightsoul blessing

    • @satyaki9390
      @satyaki9390 4 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot ahh maybe I might have missed it …. But yeah for sure traveller will have nightsoul mechanics based on the trailer on which he glowing like a bulb or by leaks if you indulge yourself into some of them😂

    • @AtiPGenshin5
      @AtiPGenshin5 2 години тому

      If they have night soul blessing , then obviously they are gonna use nightsoul points​@@TheGenshinIdiot

    • @mrdumb540
      @mrdumb540 55 хвилин тому +1

      traveller Who?!

  • @SmallestOfPP
    @SmallestOfPP 5 годин тому +48

    What people should be worried abouut is that Mavuika's new butt physics is definitely getting powercrept by the new cow girl character. Mavuika is a god damn archon! She should have at least SS tier physics!

  • @samueleesposito9735
    @samueleesposito9735 5 годин тому +33

    C1 fix that issue, it sucks

    • @fgsfds__
      @fgsfds__ 4 години тому +7

      Not really, just become more cofmy

    • @justadragonnamemarcus1751
      @justadragonnamemarcus1751 3 години тому +4

      Not really
      The uptime is still trash

    • @felixmontanez4090
      @felixmontanez4090 2 години тому +2

      Not really u can burst more easily but not necessarily still get the 200 FS compared to xilonen

    • @Honed-
      @Honed- Годину тому

      id rather go for a chitlali over c1. if you don't have xilionen.

  • @ryanboyle5491
    @ryanboyle5491 Годину тому +1

    "You should have got xilonen" man i started playing on the nahida bannner, i didnt get the chance :(

  • @nazirhussain2156
    @nazirhussain2156 4 години тому +13

    People saying this isn't issue. imagine Raiden's chakra stacks can only charge when you use electro characters from Inazuma only.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому +4

      Eh thats a little restrictive, its more like characters from inazuma. We will see.

    • @nazirhussain2156
      @nazirhussain2156 3 години тому

      ​​@@TheGenshinIdiotAlso in future I don't think they will release a Natlan 4star support for Mavuika. Only option is Wait for Rerun of Citlali or Xilonen

    • @mayukhmondal5552
      @mayukhmondal5552 24 хвилини тому

      But for compensation she does like 3 times raidens dmg con to con you gotta take that into account too you know.

  • @johns783
    @johns783 3 години тому +6

    If you saved from the start of Natlan and skipped all you can both afford to pull for her c1, or citlali. I was going to save all the way thru, then Xilonen came out, and was so obviously a BIS teammate for literally everyone in the game, so i got her for Mavuika.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому +1

      No, getting 90 summons an update = 270 which still isnt enough to guarantee, and we did not get 90 summons for all updates

    • @ztemporial
      @ztemporial 2 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdioti saved 400 since August for my FIRST EVER PYRO DPS n going for C2R1 ☺️ that was the plan until I found out she wasn’t coming in November so I crashed out n pulled hu Tao 😞 now I got 280.. wish me luck 😢

  • @AVPVN
    @AVPVN 5 годин тому +7

    Pyro traveler have nightsoul mechanic so it's kachina and the pyro traveler + mavuika is also consuming 80 nightsoul points.
    If you somehow get c1 so you don't really need any 5*

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      Sure

    • @Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oe
      @Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oe 2 години тому

      C1 not really fix that issue, and if you use Kachina and pyro traveler, you will miss two slots for better supports

    • @Kevin-vh3tl
      @Kevin-vh3tl 46 хвилин тому

      @@Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oe? C1 is a very good costellation! It allows her to have a smoother and more "comfortable" rotation, and also to remember that mavuika can safely recharges her burst with normal attacks! (I would only take C1 because I would be closer to taking C2 which is BROKEN

  • @yanncabello6268
    @yanncabello6268 4 години тому +25

    Hoyo's commercial logic is increasingly greedy :
    - 5 star character mandatory or C1, otherwise, Mavuika is of no interest (meta) compare to Arlecchino.
    - New 5-star characters on the same banner, but no more time to pull
    - Incredible rerun just behind
    - return of Shenhe after 2 years, at the same time
    Well Hoyo, we get it.

    • @arthurgeier2545
      @arthurgeier2545 3 години тому

      @@yanncabello6268 C0 Chasca => mid af
      Go for C2.
      Like wtf

    • @Daniel_G95
      @Daniel_G95 42 хвилини тому

      You have Dawei to thank for that. Everything went downhill after he replaced that producer in 4.3

  • @arominized
    @arominized 25 хвилин тому +2

    2020: You need both archons (zhong li & venti) or your acct suffers
    2021: You need Sig + C2/C3 Raiden to have a comfy burst dmg / uptime
    2022: nah, C0 is fine just slap a tonne of EM, oh the sig makes life ez
    2023: nah, C0 is fine just slap the fishing weapon, oh the sig makes dmg go brrt brrt
    2024: You need sig weap and the recent Natlan charas, plus Citlali too... open up ur wallet

  • @VetoShizu
    @VetoShizu 3 години тому +3

    I'm going for Citlali but I think we need to wait to get some hands on experience with Mavuika before we jump to final conclusions. I'm more interested in the other charactees in the patch and if I have some pulls left then I'll try to grab her.
    Also Furina on release had Jean, Charlotte, Baizhu and even Noelle if peeps were looking for healers for her. It's just wild to say she had no support till Xianyun lol. The other healers provide more than enough healing.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      Apparently I got charlotte banners mixed up. Once again though it wasnt about the quantity of options it was about the quality which all they provided was healing and I wasn't interested. I also did not say she had no support until Xianyun.

    • @yinndragon7988
      @yinndragon7988 Годину тому

      I’m in the same exact boat

  • @NekoM3
    @NekoM3 3 години тому +3

    Mavuika does have F2P options like Kachina and PMC. But even then, I do think she is too restrictive.
    Mavuika is the least F2P friendly Archon so far. Made for long term players. Players who have teams that doesn't use Furina/Bennett/Citlali/Xilonen.
    Like, for me as example. I've been playing sine 1.0 and I have C2 Nahida so I won't be so affected by her restrictions in Abyss.
    I can suggest these teams for fellow future Mavuika mains,
    Raiden, XQ, Ororon/Fischl, Jean
    Raiden, Chevy, Fischl/Ororon, Xiangling
    Double Hydro Hu Tao
    Hyperbloom
    Clorinde Aggravate
    Burgeon with Thoma/PMC
    I honestly wouldn't pull Mavuika if she didn't have her exploration perks, and she is a claymore so she will be a great ore miner. If you have some other great team options that doesn't use Furina/Bennett/Xilonen, let me know.

    • @Honed-
      @Honed- Годину тому

      ive been saving for her for so long, im fairly free to play, the last time i spent was when when albedo came out, i have 400+ summons for mavwika, i skipped everyone in nat,,, so i probabblly have to get citlali, witch i cant complain cause she is an amazing unit for pyro teams. and it means i dont need zong as my only shielder in the game anymore.
      an amazing team IMO would be:
      PYRO ARCON/ xilonen/ citlali/ bennett.
      because citlali is EM focused her melt triggers will do a lot of damage with the pyro arcon. the arcon bike spin attack covers the full range of citlali's ice aoe field.

  • @OTCThermal
    @OTCThermal 3 години тому +11

    I'll just save for another Furina re-run at this point.

  • @dualwieldroxas358
    @dualwieldroxas358 Годину тому +1

    For me, the issue is banner timing. Hoyo drained the hecc out of people's wallets with the 5.2 banner line up, and now not only are Citlali a0nd Mavuika being released in the same patch, but they are BOTH 1st half only.
    That is silly stupid

  • @danielendless
    @danielendless 50 хвилин тому +1

    This is why leaks are important. We already knew she needed Natlan characters by the time Xilonen was running. Without leaks you're left in the dark where Hoyo can extort your wallet

  • @azureclipse70
    @azureclipse70 3 години тому +2

    To people saying you only need kachina, kachina skill have 20 second cool down. Good luck filling mavuika bar with that.

  • @despairpikachu8051
    @despairpikachu8051 3 години тому +1

    My thing is this is just for optimal min max of mavuika. There is f2p options but having xilonen/citlali just makes it easier(which i dont get why people are upset shes optimal with xilonen when shes a top 2 support in the game).That being said her c1 relieving this issue just reminds me of neuvi who c1 fixes his need of a shielder and synergy with furina for optimal gameplay. Hoyo creating a problem and having the solution through constellations is gacha as usual.

  • @david_connors7031
    @david_connors7031 3 години тому +3

    C1 and C2 Arlecchino are amazing constellations, I'll try to get them. Then save everything for Skirk.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому +1

      Good luck

    • @AtiPGenshin5
      @AtiPGenshin5 2 години тому +1

      Omggg wtfff , that's literally my plan , are you inside my head ?

    • @david_connors7031
      @david_connors7031 2 години тому

      @@AtiPGenshin5 I had to save my pulls at may for yelan banner, in order to get her the last constellations C6. I've always had the thought of getting at least the c1 at the rerun. Spending primos for father's constellations is always good. Good luck 👍🦋

    • @Honed-
      @Honed- Годину тому +1

      i have c3 arlo, with her wep, now i have 400 summons for the fire arc, her wep, and citlali. (and mayybe c1 for the pyro arcon.... if im really really lucky, tho tbh i should get citlali's wep)

  • @orangemage9522
    @orangemage9522 2 години тому +1

    I got my r2 Xilonen and when I saw the motorcycle, I spent all my savings on Neuvillette. Might try for Citlali on this patch.

  • @Wraith779
    @Wraith779 3 години тому +2

    You might not know but the thing to trigger her gain of fighting spirit is someone spending nightsoul points or normal and charged attacks, as well as her own skill builds fighting spirit not add in new pyro traveler and you got a new dps boosting character from natlan or kachina and zhongli. but I highly doubt she will need a natlan heavy team just one should suffice and you all get kachina for free. and most other people have xilonen so ain't no one got to sweat it really.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      I showed the clip of the difference between using Normals and spending Nightsoul, you will be there for an eternity if youre charging through normals. It probably will be 1 natlan character since Mualani with a full bar of 60 got about 25-35% of the bar filled up.

    • @supernieva2419
      @supernieva2419 3 години тому

      I think its better to wait for content creator server before you spread misinformation.

    • @Wraith779
      @Wraith779 2 години тому +1

      @@supernieva2419 It's not misinformation, I was pointing out the oversight of him saying you'd need a full natlan team I've seen some of the early game play and it most certainly wasn't the case. the the content creators showing it had pyro traveler and 1 other natlan character aside from mavuika and had no issues building fighting spirit. Also we are all given the free kachina. So no one will really be struggling.

  • @jeerayut0580
    @jeerayut0580 4 години тому +11

    📌📌Yeah. But what about after natlan yeah? She’ll be boxed with only natlan characters for her to function. And that will be too idiotic, and it will be impossible, for hoyo to always just release a SUPPORT character from natlan. So, logically that mavuika will have limited supports unlike FATHER who will always be FUNCTIONING AND WILL KEEP ON BURNING whenever there is a new support whether they are from natlan or not. So yeah, that mavuika will be easily get expired soon enough. Not something to be wasted on with your hard earned primos! Not worth for any investments!

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      I would agree but I do also think they might've made Chevreuse to specifically buff Raiden, she is probably the most popular character in the games release so it might not happen for Mavuika but still its on the table.

  • @Swerich10
    @Swerich10 2 години тому +1

    I'll get a copy of her but that will probably be it. I wanted a sub-dps/support, fortunately creators like Jello Impact are saying that her sub-dps is underrated so hopefully she will be amazing for my teams. The constellations only increase dmg which for her sub-dps role is nice but applying is the most important and the dmg increases arent worth the constellations.

  • @nomar2924
    @nomar2924 18 хвилин тому

    Pov the best dps in genshin
    Neuvillette: teammates (optional)
    Mavuica: new caractères one in the same phase with me or I can't burst

  • @DrakeTheBlackDragon
    @DrakeTheBlackDragon 4 години тому +1

    Mavuika is an interesting situation that's for sure. I have all of the Natlan characters except for Chasca so it isn't necessarily an issue for me. There isn't even a way to "ignore" that part of her kit even with cons or a character like Furina (i.e. building Lyney for Vape with Furina instead of using his A4). This is going to be major running issue until at the very least we get more Natlan 4 stars.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      Yeah I do hope they release some more characters to help her

  • @BigToyGun
    @BigToyGun 3 години тому +7

    Xiangling still the Pyro Archon four years down the line.

  • @hiro4367
    @hiro4367 2 години тому +2

    More than 800 summons here were ready for MAvukia for way too long time. after I saw her official kit, twerking butt bike game style, stripper desgin and stranegly Natlan only team comb = skip till Kirk or just don't bother summoning anymore. Their characters after Inazuma is getting repatative and dull anyways.

    • @BlueLemonadeRefresh
      @BlueLemonadeRefresh Годину тому

      That's literally me, i stopped bothering on summoning newer chars for that reason. Glad i pulled a C6 Eula and a C3 Raiden back then and they still keep going strong every abyss. I was planning on pulling C6 Mavuika but after i saw her bike gameplay and the need for other Natlan units was a huge dissappoint for me. Hope Skirk brings Cryo to meta again as it should have ever be.

    • @hiro4367
      @hiro4367 Годину тому +1

      @@BlueLemonadeRefresh Eula is pure beast. I don't understand why some people dis her, I believe they don't even have her xD. Wishing you, me and everyone best of luck for the Frost shorty Skirk

    • @BlueLemonadeRefresh
      @BlueLemonadeRefresh 35 хвилин тому

      @@hiro4367 They dislike her because she is mainly a Physical unit altho you can play her as hybrid Cryo/Physical(Burst) with C6 Shenhe and Chongyun but thats a expensive team and the lack of Physical supports or dedicated physical offield sub dps makes her difficult to play for not skilled hands and not forget that she is a backloaded unit too lol. I still love her because her design is elegant and with her C6 she still slay. I wish you all the possible luck too on your Skirk pulls ^^

  • @jonathanrobinson198
    @jonathanrobinson198 Годину тому

    Well we see the Traveler have Nightsoul blessing so them getting nightsoul points is a pretty safe bet. Also, any teams that have normal attacking characters like Ayato, Yoimiya, Scaramouche, and even Raiden will also contribute to Mavukia’s charge.

  • @bushy9780
    @bushy9780 Годину тому

    yeah, we'll have to see her in practice (without Abyss blessings) to see if these atrocious restrictions are worth it.

  • @carlitwo8463
    @carlitwo8463 Годину тому

    Ororon , despite being an electro-charged character, can also work really well in overload Mavuika teams with Chevreuse. Normal attacks may not raise the bar by a lot but it's just enough to get 100 Fighting Spirit with Mavuika also giving herself 80 FS

    • @HshaGsgs-y1q
      @HshaGsgs-y1q Годину тому

      Can you tell me how the rotation will be

  • @infeinfe
    @infeinfe 3 години тому

    The one time my inability to save primos saves me. I got both xilonen and chasca even though I didn't really want either, but I do want mavuika

  • @cnxlee_69420
    @cnxlee_69420 47 хвилин тому +1

    I have two things to ask people who've skipped every single character in Natlan,
    First,If you are someone who cares about meta,min-maxing theoretical Dps etc.Why the heck did you not pull xilonen? (Unless you lost 50-50,in that case I'm sorry). Anyways,since you've a lot of primos now,you should pull Citlali too.
    Secondly,if you just like Mavuika as a charactar, wants to play as her and don't care about min-maxing..then why are you stressing over what's her best support is? Just pull for her and get the supports down the line.
    It's not the end of the world. What's important is you having fun. Doom posting ain't gonna help.

  • @williamvega9044
    @williamvega9044 2 години тому

    I feel with the archon being a DPS there’s still a chance we get a 5 start support equal to Bennett that works with her

  • @Gaurang_Karande
    @Gaurang_Karande 4 години тому +5

    If you are going for Sub DPS Mavuika you will just have to burst every other rotation. And for people who haven't pulled since the start of Natlan for any other character I find it difficult that they won't have any pulls for Mavuika and Citlali, since it is 3 patches worth of pulls saved that is around 90 per patch assuming the lowest that would be 270 pulls saved. And we are also getting 20 pulls for Lantern Rite so these guys would have a good shot at getting both Citlali and Mavuika.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому +2

      90 per patch is what I believe the welkin moon players got I dont think they have given 90 to f2p for all 3 patches so far. I do agree people probably still have enough primos to at least get the pyro archon and try for Citlali but certainly not guaranteed.

    • @Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe
      @Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe 3 години тому

      90 pulls is only obtaineble with welkin and battle bass. other wise it's so hard to get 70+ pulls per version

  • @cjcirignano
    @cjcirignano 2 години тому

    Maybe when the traveler is able to resonate with the statue of the seven from Nathan, then things will kind of be okay.

  • @whitelightning90
    @whitelightning90 48 хвилин тому

    New to the game, this type of stuff is why I never wanted to start in the first place

  • @blackscorpion7967
    @blackscorpion7967 45 хвилин тому

    Wait what are 4 stars rate ups gonna be. I don't think they are gonna put Nathan characters with her because it's to soon for ororan

  • @Daniel_G95
    @Daniel_G95 33 хвилини тому

    Mavuika is not an investment character like the other archons, she's a compliment character once you have invested in other Natlan characters. And Hoyo expected us to just run with the fact that she's the Pyro archon as her sole banner quality. "Why should you invest in other Natlan characters you don't have to make this one usable? Oh that's just for lore reasons, you just spend on more characters to make her usable!"

  • @justadragonnamemarcus1751
    @justadragonnamemarcus1751 3 години тому +1

    Well Pyro traveller anr kachina will be there but not sure if they can help mavuika burst issue

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      They can but we need to see what the traveler is doing

  • @starling1269
    @starling1269 2 години тому

    It just seems like the perfect storm of factors to skip Mavuika, like, she is being released alongside a really hyped and powerful character Citlali who is cryo and thus who even knows when she'll be rerun and a harbinger who is also a pyro dps but can pop off on her own with standard supports meanwhile mavuika will get archon rerun timers.
    Almost enough to make me think they are trying to throw mavuika under the bus.
    Shes a safe skip, but for most people id say she will have the most account value. At least im assuming she'll be a decent main or sub dps without natlan supports and pop off when you (eventually) get them or a possible artifact set with nightsoul mechanics. And that's assuming kachina and pyro traveler arent sufficient.
    So imo worst case, you get her and she's *merely* a flexible and decent pyro dps. So, shes also just as much a safe pick as a safe skip.
    Ill make my choice when i can run her trial a few times, but thats mostly because I also just really like Arlecchino.

  • @samkr2221
    @samkr2221 3 години тому

    Thank you..
    I was considering pulling for the rider suit girl but you opened my ears
    I will now get C1 neuvi for funrina , worse yae and jean team

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      Yeah if you dont have natlan characters its probably is better

    • @ilyJuno
      @ilyJuno 2 години тому

      Your cooked bro if she comes out a is super strong your gonna regret it but I got nuvi 😂 but I’m pulling for her too

  • @assassinsread2532
    @assassinsread2532 4 години тому +7

    Guys don't worry that much pull for her if you like just grab characters on their rerun or next natlan chatracters simple.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому +14

      The thing is thats saying "Pull for a character and wait a couple months until you can truly use her"

    • @varlsenjoyer
      @varlsenjoyer 4 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot haha clock that

    • @abhishekgoswami-ey3ys
      @abhishekgoswami-ey3ys 3 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot that a point just pull her cant able to use her

    • @marktandagan9816
      @marktandagan9816 2 години тому

      Not applicable to everybody specialy to new players. Not having atleast 1 or 2 strong team means u will have a hard time playing the game

    • @bushy9780
      @bushy9780 Годину тому +1

      yeah and by the time people get the reruns, new region will be unlocked and we'll be entering a new phase of planned obsolescence

  • @pinkpong9732
    @pinkpong9732 2 години тому

    I have mualani, kachina and ororon and also arlechino should i pull mavuika or citlali?

  • @Dyseptic
    @Dyseptic Годину тому

    Luckily I have won 6 straight 50/50 wins and have all the featured five star except kinich since raiden.

  • @willjiang2599
    @willjiang2599 Годину тому

    I have enough for two 5 star pity. Should I get C1 Mavuika, or C0 Mavuika and Citlali

  • @Flewfaraway
    @Flewfaraway 2 години тому

    How poetic in natlan no one fight alone even pyro archon
    also i have ororon what should i do i love using ororon in Exploration party
    I am new player 1 month and ar 48

  • @striker3909
    @striker3909 Годину тому

    Man am I glad I’m going for arle lol

  • @derr5760
    @derr5760 Годину тому

    I saw calcs on reddit that arlecchino melt double cryo outdamages mavuikas highest dps team, plus shes more flexible teamwise.

    • @Antithesis_72
      @Antithesis_72 56 хвилин тому

      This. For those also unaware Arle teams have shorter rotations so even in teams where Mav would out dpr her Arle does the dmg faster and when extrapolated to the same times as Mav, Arle would end up winning in practice.

  • @TheGwilwileth
    @TheGwilwileth 4 години тому +1

    I’m pretty sure I will skip 5.3… Skirk is in coming and I always want cons and weapon now days. Plus any possible surprise Character that might show up. If, if I feel I really want Mavuika I can pull on her rerun. It is what it is… all the other Archons work with many other Characters no matter what region they come from…and I do have Xilonen.

    • @exploreevery
      @exploreevery 4 години тому

      🗣️ Skirk reverse melt team needs her

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      I imagine she will be broken with cons though, we will see.

    • @dualwieldroxas358
      @dualwieldroxas358 Годину тому

      Idk why people are saying save for Skirk when we don't even know her element, yet xD

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 4 години тому +1

    So does this mean my Xilonen is actually gonna do something now? She's been collecting dust since I got her namecard. I literally don't have a team that I would use Xilonen over Kazuha.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому +1

      @@kibathefang6022 yes also you definitely have a team you just refuse to use it

    • @nationalgeografic7687
      @nationalgeografic7687 3 години тому +1

      Well, any team where VV buff is too short/uncomfortable to use?

    • @animalloverkaileigh
      @animalloverkaileigh 3 години тому

      Honestly, real. My Xilonen is also like useless because I'm too stupid to find a team she works with😭

  • @cyan7852
    @cyan7852 48 хвилин тому

    U wanna tell me that ppl who saved for months cant simply just pull for c1 mavuika or mavuika w citlali and use someone like traveler or kachina?

  • @Honed-
    @Honed- Годину тому

    I SHOULD OF SUMMONED FOR XILONEN... but ..... i can get chitlali, and the arcon now.. THEN GET XILONEN WHEN SHE COMES BACK, ITS A WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN!!! chitlali is pretty much desgined to work with the pyro arcon, if you also have a xilonen, the debuffs work together like magic still. and youll be triggering melt reactions witch after the buff do alot of damage, expesually since chitlalidarie scales off of EM, witch is great for reactions, so yeahh, pyro arcons best team is xilionen, citlali, and then probably,,, honestly, maybe a bennett, or farina? tho the freezing will get a bit,,, annoying when you just want to trigger melt.

  • @ABC-yj6cy
    @ABC-yj6cy 4 години тому +1

    I'm F2P and i have xilonen and 110k primogems ready for mavuika and citlali along with their signature weapons, win-win

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому

      @@ABC-yj6cy nice

    • @animalloverkaileigh
      @animalloverkaileigh 3 години тому

      Where the heck are you getting 110k?!

    • @Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe
      @Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe 3 години тому

      ​​@@animalloverkaileighif he's f2p then he clearly saved for a long time (he's prob one of those who skipped arlecchino on her realese thinking "there is no way the pyro archon is going to be weaker than arlecchino" well well well)

  • @ramsical
    @ramsical 2 години тому

    i have 300+ pulls ororon is my only built natlan unit so skipping mavuika already have a pyro dps and xiangling

  • @That_Daily_noko
    @That_Daily_noko 4 години тому +1

    Her, PT plus kachina might be good as a F2P team?

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому +1

      pt?

    • @Tabris-G
      @Tabris-G 3 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot pyro traveller prob

    • @ilariaodinsdottir7312
      @ilariaodinsdottir7312 3 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot I'm assuming they mean Pyro Traveler. Just not the way most players refer to Traveler.

    • @That_Daily_noko
      @That_Daily_noko 3 години тому +1

      I meant Pyro traveler

  • @thechillryan777
    @thechillryan777 32 хвилини тому

    Honestly my worry is that she has no future potential when natlan ends she has no room to grow since there won't be many new additions

  • @wansper9297
    @wansper9297 4 години тому

    2:43 or C1 also works whichever you want. imo if you skipped every new unit in the past 4 versions and dont have enough for 2 limited 5 star pulls.... idk what the hell you have been doing. Whether thats worth it for you is a different question.
    I just think if you were dedicatedly "saving for mavuika" you were planning to go for C1 plus anyway

    • @nationalgeografic7687
      @nationalgeografic7687 3 години тому

      And if I don't like citlali or I wanna keep primos for future chars?

  • @ruxyruxandra4673
    @ruxyruxandra4673 5 годин тому +1

    you can also use normal attacks to charge her burst so she works with characters like arlecchino, clorinde, wrio etc. which means she basically works as a dual carry that deals damage alongside your main dps.
    Her c1 also fixes this issue
    edit: mavuika by herself also generates 80 points so you only need to get 20 to activate the burst. It will be much weaker than the 200 fighting spirit burst but you still get some damage off

    • @yanncabello6268
      @yanncabello6268 4 години тому

      so here the choices for Mavuika to be an upgrade to a box which already own Arlecchino :
      - half potential : Arlecchino still rules, sidegrade or downgrade in certain teams to Xiangling as a support.
      - or C1/5star character mandatory.
      First time an archon has so many requirements to be OP. Hoyo's sales strategy is increasingly aggressive for content that is not evolving.

  • @deadamoree
    @deadamoree 3 години тому

    The mechanic definitely fits Mavuikas actual character and personality which I love, but the normal attacks barely raising the bar? Seriously hoyo? At least make the normals gain the same amount that nightsoul does yk? And maybe to nerf her a bit so she isn’t even more cracked that she is- they could’ve just like had her buff Natlan characters with ATK% or something because most of them are on-fielders. I’m still going to pull for her bc I have Kinich- but I’m still pulling for arle after bc shes literally one of my favorite characters and she doesn’t struggle with goofy mechanics like this

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому +1

      Yeah I imagine people may end up choosing arle as a dps and Mavuika to support natlan characters because without them its harder to use her.

    • @deadamoree
      @deadamoree 3 години тому

      @ that’s my plan, ngl I just wanna ride around with a motorcycle and actually get my exploration to 100% 💀🙏

  • @rajibali4643
    @rajibali4643 3 години тому

    What about pyro traveler which is using night soul point

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      I did not see it in the trailer, its possible he does but still I doubt you will be running the traveler who looks to be a main dps character on her team

  • @gamingtemplar9893
    @gamingtemplar9893 2 години тому

    It was obvious she needed them because of how the artifacts and soul thing work and you could guess it too because of xilonen kit and.... expected it at the very least. But this is like in 1.0 saying "you need bennet for ganyu". As broken Mavuika is, this is a non argument for a skip.

  • @srishtisharma3908
    @srishtisharma3908 2 години тому

    So all you need is a c0r0 xilonen to make her the best dps? That’s a win in my book(i have c2r1 xilonen)

  • @Eseyy
    @Eseyy 4 години тому

    I got about 340 wishes, gotta summon citlali and all whats rest goes for mauvika

  • @6meterkevlar923
    @6meterkevlar923 2 години тому

    So will lanyan work with mavuika ? If she does then mavuika is worth pulling cuz in the lantern rite we'll get lanyan

  • @alexsjarif
    @alexsjarif 5 годин тому +8

    Ur worry is just like "ow hu tao needs xq/yelan"

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 5 годин тому +4

      But... but who would ever play a Natlan character after Natlan? /s
      It's so dumb.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  5 годин тому +10

      @@alexsjarif that is not equivalent, xingqiu has been given out multiple times and does not base his entire usefulness off of a 40% damage bonus artifact set

    • @alexsjarif
      @alexsjarif 4 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot it is just an example given u can also say alhaitham nahida, nilou nahida, etc. My point being that being restricted go certain characters is not a bad thing if the traidoff is worth it.

    • @alexsjarif
      @alexsjarif 4 години тому +4

      @bencegergohocz5988 in no world are people gonna stop using xilonen and mualani won't dissapear from the speed run community for quit a while

    • @Beck-mm4vx
      @Beck-mm4vx 4 години тому +3

      @@TheGenshinIdiot I get what youre saying but neither does Xilonen lmao. Buff aside her most important thing is the shred plus she frees up a spot for a healer.

  • @miscellaneous7777
    @miscellaneous7777 4 хвилини тому

    I’m definitely skipping her and saving for the goat within the Natlan cast, the one and only Captain. I’m sure he won’t have any annoying Natlan handicaps. Nobody needs a second arlecchino or a n’th pyro dps and let’s not mention that ugly spinning bike 😒

  • @vonericmiranda8555
    @vonericmiranda8555 3 години тому

    At this point, I don't care if she's powerful or not since I settled on my pyro dps since ver. 1.0 *cough* klee *cough*. I just want to see for myself if the rumored jiggle physics up and down is real.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      ...Being a klee main and looking for jiggle physics is concerning

  • @antonyy5705
    @antonyy5705 2 години тому

    Im happy, i have them all

  • @sumsumplays
    @sumsumplays 51 хвилина тому

    Honestly feels pointless cuz the natlan characters will objectively be powercrept, maybe not the archon but definitely the supports. Feels like u would be setting yourself up to fail to some extent yknow? And like yeah its like archeon in star rail but all u need is debuffs and theres bound to be at least one or two that debuff that u like…

  • @Wenn-gw1dr
    @Wenn-gw1dr 3 години тому

    I think her banner is going to have less sales compared to Raiden and/or Nahida first banners but she's an archon so maybe not?

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      The issue is the people who dont have Natlan supports are already discouraged from pulling, her rerun will probably be normal since we will know what shes doing before then

  • @keliicenturion
    @keliicenturion Годину тому

    There are so many reasons to Skip Mavuika!!!

  • @DogolandiaMapper
    @DogolandiaMapper 4 години тому

    Thats... goof for me to be fair.
    I have 497 wishes and Kachina is ny only Natlan character
    Thise wishes are for Wriothesley. I wanted Citlali since shes my fav character from Natlan but skipping her sounds easy tbh, she doesnt work with my characters. Now hearing this I think skipping this patch wont be as hard for me as I previously thought
    But I definitely don't agree with Furina. She had a lot of healers on release. Jean, Baizhu, Charlotte, Sayu, Bennett, Kuki + The healing catalyst works greatly, Kokomi on field, even Barbara or Qiqi work. I believe she was more than fine on release since there were lots of options

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому +1

      Bro acted like Charlotte released with furina. I wasnt complaining about the amount of options on release I was complaining about the quality of options on release, they just didnt provide a lot and it felt like you were supporting your support which was annoying.

    • @DogolandiaMapper
      @DogolandiaMapper 2 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot Charlotte was released ON Furinas banner? Litterally along each other? You can check that if you don't believe. Anyway Baizhu gives dendro and some buffs so thats more than enough. I know Furina doesnt buff hyperbloom but she buffs characters like Alhaitham, Tighnari or Wriothesley so thats great, Jean and Sayu allow for the use of vv, Bennett is Bennett, Charlotte allows for some melts or freezes which is helpful (not always though) +TTDS. The rest is really just for the healing though

    • @lulufortytwo3884
      @lulufortytwo3884 2 години тому

      hopefully in 5.4 we will be free.

  • @Neiwoy
    @Neiwoy 3 години тому

    Tbh i'm already using Kachina for easy Navia support, and i have ororon so I'm fine.

  • @lulufortytwo3884
    @lulufortytwo3884 Годину тому

    ooooh what a big comment section today!

  • @kawaiimika7974
    @kawaiimika7974 5 годин тому +6

    You should be, she's extremely restrictive and will struggle to synergize with future characters.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому +5

      @@kawaiimika7974 possibly, I’m more worried for f2p players. She’s an archon so I’m sure they will do what they did for raiden if her best team ever becomes using her as a full support.

    • @kawaiimika7974
      @kawaiimika7974 4 години тому

      ​@@TheGenshinIdiot I don't think F2P's should be getting her if they don't have Xilonen or won't pull Citlali because she'll be so much worse. Obviously you can if you want to but that doesn't mean she'll be as good as everyone makes her out to be.

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 4 години тому +5

      You guys are way too obsessed with the idea of a character somehow needing to change up their whole team.
      In the 5.2 abyss, the second most popular team is an over 2 years old Kuki hyperbloom team and the third is a year old Neuvilette team and 4th is the like 2.5 years old Hutao double hydro, the 5th is a slightly different but just as old version of Kuki hyperbloom, the 7th is a day1 Tignari spread team, and the 10th is just Raiden national.
      The only teams in the top 10 most used that aren't at least a year old are an Arle team at 6th where only she is newer and, a hyperbloom team with an Ororon and 2 Neuvilettes with Xilonen.
      This is not HSR. Your characters don't just ganna rot away in a few months...

    • @kawaiimika7974
      @kawaiimika7974 4 години тому +3

      ​​​@@bencegergohocz5988 When you are TIED to the best supports in the game and you will NEVER get alternatives for them then it is a problem. We won't get another Geo Natlan shredder, we won't get another Melt oriented Natlan Cryo unit and we won't get another Bennett. And if you replace any of these units she will be as any other on field DPS, so maybe stop glazing her for a second because she isn't all that.
      Edit: Also, she's a charged attack character, so, if you don't have Furina, you don't have off field Hydro applicators to use, except maybe Ayato but he can't even compare to Furina. And because she doesn't have Lyney's mono Pyro passive her damage won't be as high in that team or Burning teams. So yeah, good luck ❤

    • @PabloRodriguezreal
      @PabloRodriguezreal 3 години тому +1

      ​@@bencegergohocz5988Bro, what are you talking about, nobody even talked about that. They were talking about the fact that she's not going to be really versitale and always binded to those few teams she got during natlan era

  • @darylewalker6862
    @darylewalker6862 4 години тому

    She looks like the least generalist archon. Hopefully we’re wrong to some extent, like the run up to prior archons.

  • @grantdavid2655
    @grantdavid2655 3 години тому

    Dont forget pyro MC as well 😅
    But seriously for Mav to be the standout dps she needs Citlali. Obviously she is still decent without, but I don't think it will feel good without Citlali and Xilonen together.
    Side note... they announced Skirk so who gives AF about the pyro archon?!

  • @freedragon6405
    @freedragon6405 2 години тому

    I skipped or lost 50/50 on every natlan character

  • @ZAHIRxMORAX
    @ZAHIRxMORAX 4 години тому

    I have only kinich from natlan is it enough to pull for mauvika

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      Yes if you want to use her a support for him

    • @nationalgeografic7687
      @nationalgeografic7687 3 години тому

      ​@@TheGenshinIdiotbetter using kinich as mav's battery cuz he's weak af 🤡

  • @kittenlelouch
    @kittenlelouch 3 години тому

    on the positive side at least it makes natlan 4 stars more valuable? 😭

  • @waterdog737
    @waterdog737 2 години тому

    If all else fails, there is physical Mavuika still exist 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Seriously Pyro Traveller should help for the unlucky f2ps

  • @LUCKY_0033
    @LUCKY_0033 3 години тому

    Is mauvika good for Ayato and Neuvilette? That's the only thing I want to know 😅

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      We gotta wait until shes in game for that

    • @LUCKY_0033
      @LUCKY_0033 Годину тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot Yes You Are Right But in Trailer they were using him Ig maybe might be good hoping for the best for Ayato not only balanced but also versatile. neu is solo guy hope he gets along with mauvika 😂😂

  • @ilyJuno
    @ilyJuno 2 години тому

    I got chasca so im straight

  • @richardchase2304
    @richardchase2304 3 години тому

    Not pulling for mavuika😂😂 i already have my pyro ARCHON my boy benny🤫

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      somehow she didnt powercreep him

    • @richardchase2304
      @richardchase2304 3 години тому

      Yep just realized that arle is better for f2p😊​@@TheGenshinIdiot

  • @GenesiisDavid
    @GenesiisDavid 3 години тому

    I literally have zero natlan characters because I wasn't playing genshin lol. Guess I should go back to not playing genshin.

  • @naturepro1589
    @naturepro1589 2 години тому

    I think the game has been giving u enough to pull for at least one natlan character... and if people did not do that... well is not an issue for those who are f2play and play de game and carefully summon acording to what we need... we dont need any character to be honest... we just want them and its different, if people have issues from where to spend their money, well get a house first dont ya? There are more things to worry about than if in one actualization my pj is gonna be enough for me or not... it has to be enough if u like the character if u dont... dont find arguments to ur cry

  • @SIVINGGKBP114
    @SIVINGGKBP114 2 години тому

    Dont worry pyro traveller makes 80 while citlali is 45 and mavuika makes 80 on her own but xilonen is best

  • @nyxvox6521
    @nyxvox6521 2 години тому

    sure xilonen or citlali will help mavuika massively, without question. Not to mention that's her on her Main DPS ROLE. Buuuuut... even with just kachina or even without kachina. Mavuika can still function, with her current numbers even with her worst team she's is still decent, Not great not amazing either but a decent one. On par even with the top dps at C0. And If you have kinich, mualani or chasca, it's hard to pass mavuika.
    But you do you. If you just want mavuika to deal 1 trillion damage then by all mean get xilonen and citlali first instead of her. Your choice.

  • @SalyxH
    @SalyxH 4 години тому

    ...uh the silhouettes you were refering to... not all of them are going to natlan characters.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому

      Yeah I know skirk is there, I do think this wont be an issue im talking about after her release but its more to warn players who do not have any natlan characters.

    • @SalyxH
      @SalyxH 3 години тому

      @@TheGenshinIdiot i see where you are coming from but imo people are going to play characters because they like them not because of how good they. sure meta can be fun if thats your thing, but not everyone wants to play it because then why release all these new characters?

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  2 години тому

      @@SalyxH Well when looking at showcases of Mavuika doing a load of damage youre going to feel bad that your Mavuika isnt doing as much basically

  • @brulckgui
    @brulckgui 2 години тому

    all the thing in natlan is so bad. i have kinich c1r1 and still worst than my alhaitham C0 no weapon signature. damn, this land is so bad

  • @PryncessTempest
    @PryncessTempest 4 години тому

    “Am I bricked”
    “Yes you probably are”
    I thought that was so funny. Anyway, yeah it sucks. Im getting c1 but i feel for anyone who cant afford that investment. No archon is this restrictive and i would feel blindsided by hoyo if i skipped everyone for her. And dont say “kachina this, katchina that” katchina is useless

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      Kachina is really just code for Cinder city

  • @deontephilips9870
    @deontephilips9870 4 години тому

    I just want the fire mammy lol

  • @Xotwod-t8k
    @Xotwod-t8k 3 години тому

    It's not even an issue ... Everyone needs some kind of support and xilonen is so broken no one in the hell said to skip her.... My advice is pull mauvika and get xilonen on her rerun as skirk will come in 5.7

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      The thing is the archons are always the strongest, it didnt seem bad to skip Xilonen and get her on her rerun but Mavuika now REALLY wants Xilonen so those people who were incredibly dedicated to her have to wait likely over 120 days just to get xilonen for her

    • @neilgaming2127
      @neilgaming2127 2 години тому

      Hi I had 0 pull history currently had 300 fate from farming. Should I pull xilonen or furina? I was originally planning to do vaporize with furina and mavuika lmao will it work?? Or I better off get xilonen. I always use traveler (immersion) my lumine already lv90 cuz I love using mc. Right now I'm using electro mc which is so bad for damage. But my xianling and kaeya,collei always do the work for me

    • @dualwieldroxas358
      @dualwieldroxas358 Годину тому

      ​@@neilgaming2127if i were you, i would look up team comp videoes.
      Furina is an incredible character, but her health drain echanic can be devastating if you ard not prepared.

  • @captainmusx817
    @captainmusx817 3 години тому

    Lucky I already have c0 R1 Xilonen and can't wait for Mavuika, my best current team for Xilonen right now > Neuv, Furina, Kazuha& Xilo the top strong team ever for me or Raiden, Nahida, Furina&Xilo.. so no issue for me here plus I already have c0 Arlecchino with homa

  • @SpardaVergil666
    @SpardaVergil666 3 години тому

    Is Ororon good for Mavuika in any way?...i know this might be a dumb question but better safe than sorry.

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому +1

      Personally I dont think so since he wants electro charged and that going to be hard to have with Mavuika

    • @SpardaVergil666
      @SpardaVergil666 3 години тому

      @TheGenshinIdiot well shucks,
      Anyways thanks for the info, i'll make it work somehow!

  • @Hashtag-fd9ie
    @Hashtag-fd9ie 4 години тому

    It doesn't matter for me , the character just needs to be hot( pun not intended)

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  4 години тому

      @@Hashtag-fd9ie …the pun is always intended

  • @thisguygottalove
    @thisguygottalove Годину тому

    I’m gonna be honest.

  • @florinag7799
    @florinag7799 2 години тому

    get her c1. When Mavuika has c1 it does help your no natlan characters problem

    • @ping-x7m
      @ping-x7m 2 години тому

      Hoyo selling u the solution that dont need to a problem to begin with

    • @Kevin-vh3tl
      @Kevin-vh3tl 38 хвилин тому

      This! I’ll go for Her c2 because I don’t like citlali😅

  • @butter5144
    @butter5144 5 годин тому +3

    Nah too niche for me! Im pulling arle c1 or furina c2 or her rerun ✋😒

  • @Crispy_Gamer_
    @Crispy_Gamer_ 35 хвилин тому

    I didn't ever expect hoyo would add an 8th resonance, Natlan resonance and make it almost necessary for the pyro archon. A lot of players wanna use an archon exclusive team, but can't because of Natlan resonance.

  • @YukiZero
    @YukiZero 4 години тому +1

    TBH... her burst should just be charged by doing normal, charge, or plunging attacks. and her burst buff must stay until the end of its duration and not regress over time. do that and she is fine...

    • @TheGenshinIdiot
      @TheGenshinIdiot  3 години тому

      Yeah maybe if they changed that but I dont know how exactly that would get her to fill the main dps role unless youre using another dps