Evolution of COPS LOGIC in MAFIA games (2002-2020)

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
  • I present you the Evolution of COPS (police) LOGIC in MAFIA games (2002-2020). The cops logic has had an interesting evolution from Mafia (2002) to Mafia: Definitive Edition (2020). Let's see how they evolved across the games!
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    ash - Some police lines transcription
    0:00 Introduction
    0:10 1 star: Mafia
    0:49 1 star: Mafia II
    2:56 1 star: Mafia III
    3:37 1 star: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    4:27 2 stars: Mafia
    5:03 2 stars: Mafia II
    5:56 2 stars: Mafia III
    6:25 2 stars: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    6:53 3 stars: Mafia
    7:51 3 stars: Mafia II
    8:40 3 stars: Mafia III
    9:22 3 stars: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    10:14 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia
    11:34 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia II
    12:32 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia III
    13:52 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    14:52 Foot pursuit: Mafia
    15:42 Foot pursuit: Mafia II
    16:25 Foot pursuit: Mafia III
    16:58 Foot pursuit: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    17:56 Police roadblock: Mafia
    18:18 Police roadblock: Mafia II
    18:53 Police roadblock: Mafia III
    19:27 Police roadblock: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    20:04 Combat: Mafia
    21:30 Combat: Mafia II
    22:09 Combat: Mafia III
    23:31 Combat: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    25:02 NPC combat: Mafia
    25:44 NPC combat: Mafia II
    27:25 NPC combat: Mafia III
    28:50 NPC combat: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    29:12 Miscellaneous
    35:00 Conclusion
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  • @folegionnaire4404
    @folegionnaire4404 3 роки тому +62

    14:08 they even turn their light on in the tunnel amazing

  • @bradleypelkey4597
    @bradleypelkey4597 2 роки тому +16

    15:24 the crickets outside my window when I'm tryin to sleep

  • @MichaelJ44
    @MichaelJ44 3 роки тому +88

    You’re videos are great. No intro, straight to the point, no loud music, no excessive gameplay. Just a detailed video about what your title is about. They don’t make em like this anymore

    • @X11H
      @X11H 3 роки тому +6

      That's the point, they never made them like this before. This man is the best.

    • @TobbeStorm
      @TobbeStorm Рік тому

      Nop you don't get corned beef like that anymore. Whatever happened to that deli?

  • @youssefnr1310
    @youssefnr1310 Місяць тому +3

    There's actually a really cool detail about vehicle pursuits in the original Mafia, the cops will actually try to get their front bumper stuck to your rear bumper, and when they succeed, they fully step on the brakes to stop, forcing your vehicle to stop as well.

  • @nushnume
    @nushnume Рік тому +56

    Mafia 3 developers be like: eh,we can't bother with the police,we'll just say they're racist af and that's it😂

    • @chickenchan9295
      @chickenchan9295 9 місяців тому +4

      But it makes sence by the time period the game takes place

    • @redcobra7707
      @redcobra7707 7 місяців тому +3

      It is realistic tho, atleast back then

    • @goap690
      @goap690 7 місяців тому +2

      they just didnt bring any AI. evolution is not a proper word.
      Thats why npc vs npc without any involved of player deal NO any damage to each others. Why late 00s games on consoles become press x movies. worse than Call of Duty. More like... a bitt earlier game... Starship Troopers... on PC... khm. So actually PC game start it all.
      Wh40k Space Marine use better system. NPC didnt do anything if you do abandon fight scene to lurk some corners for goodies. NPC wont kill NPC. Allies didnt do many damage when you do. But still they did some damage in combat when you stay and watch.
      And no. Mafia 3 use another system. In space Marine you can take cover and NPC will kill each others. In mafia 3 actually they didnt do damage. Relic dev chose stick it to your POV camera. They chose to hide scripts.
      All nowadays shooter or actions that called platformers - Sony games first of - NPC do nothing. And even your shots do nothing. Its not calculate directly. It is not Call of Duty 1-2 or Starship Troopers. If you pay attention you will notice that.
      Mafia 3 they said. Nah. Devs want make GTA SA plot game, bad plot game (unlike GTASA). Not Mafia. Rockstar did great game. 2ks noname studio didnt want make good game. Mafia 1+2 been even more tech and AI detailed than GTA. Mafia 3 no more Mafia - plot and gameplay.
      And someone call it realistic... I already saw serious comments in Discord about realism in Mafia 3. Even GTA5 cops are better developed.

    • @goap690
      @goap690 7 місяців тому

      oh and what they did with Mafia 1 in DE... ppl who cant make AL and gameplay screw plot too, again. Already exist plot. Realism and logic are raritet this days.

  • @Ealdorman_of_Mercia
    @Ealdorman_of_Mercia 3 роки тому +40

    27:09 ok this is the most realistic cop behaviour I have ever seen.

  • @DurangoCzechoslovakia
    @DurangoCzechoslovakia 3 роки тому +82

    25:50 Hitler,is that you?

  • @Dewhursm
    @Dewhursm 2 роки тому +10

    24:12 that sound like heavy voice lol

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x 3 роки тому +36

    Mafia 1's police system was the hardest to escape, like after they'd call all stations and the whole department starting coming after you you were basically fucked, unless you had a really good car they'd be faster than you, they'd have shotguns and tommy guns instead of pistols and they'd have road blocks everywhere and since the cars are heavy as fuck in this game it was hard breaking through it
    they'd literally come up to you while chasing you and shoot you with a shot gun in the face

    • @nicholasnguyen5181
      @nicholasnguyen5181 Рік тому

      The definitive edition of mafia 1 was brutal… . Literally got swarmed with cops because I wasn’t surrendering

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x Рік тому +2

      @@nicholasnguyen5181 the original Mafia 1 is even more brutal
      in DE cars are much faster, handle better and accelerate faster, so you can escape them, also I'm not sure if they shoot with Shotguns and Tommyguns in DE, I don't remember.

    • @nicholasnguyen5181
      @nicholasnguyen5181 Рік тому

      @@Ar1AnX1x I remember that they had bolt action rifles too… . They really hit hard

    • @i_love_games110
      @i_love_games110 4 місяці тому

      in mafia de it gets to that level at wanted 4 and even worse at wanted 5, and since ramming them damn near fucking kills you every time it's not very advised

  • @AndresMartinez-bn2qj
    @AndresMartinez-bn2qj 3 роки тому +17

    27:16 Damn!

  • @mckensyq
    @mckensyq 3 роки тому +39

    Mafia 3 : black man simulation

  • @not_noice
    @not_noice 3 роки тому +20

    Mafia 3 cops logic : *(Literally like GTA 5)*
    Mafia 1 (original and remake) cops logic : *(Also literally like GTA 4 but better)*

    • @user-lm6qm1pi1u
      @user-lm6qm1pi1u 2 роки тому +10

      Mafia 3 cops are more like GTA Online cops, the latter never arrest anyone as well.

    • @erwinrommy1940
      @erwinrommy1940 Рік тому

      You guys wrong
      Mafia 3 set in 60s
      Which mean
      The Year american Still racist
      Police would Rather Kill Any Bl*ck people on that year

  • @juninhojr2177
    @juninhojr2177 3 роки тому +13

    another impeccable job your videos are fantastic and you bring the smallest details to each explanation and impressive how much you dedicate yourself to explaining these systems a video that i would recommend you to make would be the gta sa wanted system.

  • @crzymktrdrebel
    @crzymktrdrebel 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for making great videos.

  • @Saerkal
    @Saerkal 3 роки тому +28

    You should do Watch Dogs Legion next for a police analysis.
    Or Just Cause, Bully, or Sleeping Dogs

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway 3 роки тому +2

      Watch Dogs' police seems to be as bad if not even worse than Mafia 3.

    • @Saerkal
      @Saerkal 3 роки тому +1

      @@susangoaway they skimped on a lot, lol. Great game but not awesome.

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway 3 роки тому

      @@Saerkal I wouldn't call it great.

    • @thegoat6656
      @thegoat6656 3 роки тому +1

      @@susangoaway I completely disagree its on par with GTA 5

    • @dacody2342
      @dacody2342 3 роки тому +1

      @@thegoat6656 gta v police is bad too lol the chances of them arresting you are slim and if you stand near them too long they point guns at you :/

  • @iliesahmed6730
    @iliesahmed6730 3 роки тому +2

    best video on mafia games !

  • @Arkiasis
    @Arkiasis 3 роки тому +54

    I really wanna see you do a video on Cyberpunk's police. I swear, it's the worst mechanics I've ever seen ever.
    There are NO police chases. They SPAWN behind you instantly and keep spawning until you leave the area. Once you're like 50m away from the area you lose them.
    It's bad... very very bad.

    • @bruhman-gc3ph
      @bruhman-gc3ph 2 роки тому

      once you go in stores they get stage 5 dementia they use excessive force everytime,no police helicopters and extremely glitched out

  • @juanwhick1691
    @juanwhick1691 9 місяців тому

    I gotta say I like how far we have come with vehicles in games. From barely any sound. To adding start sounds and running sound. And even the cooldown tick lol. The little things are what amaze me the most.

  • @felixc.3444
    @felixc.3444 3 роки тому

    Good work friend

  • @florynMbolielegends
    @florynMbolielegends 3 роки тому +8

    This is how GTA needs to be 4:54 & 0:46

  • @nicholasnguyen5181
    @nicholasnguyen5181 Рік тому +3

    I just love that even the npcs can bribe cops to not arrest them XD

  • @ubilambda
    @ubilambda 3 роки тому +10

    16:11 No more donuts for you! Great work as always!

  • @NewWindsorPD
    @NewWindsorPD 3 роки тому +14

    For one star in Mafia: Definitive Edition I've had cops park behind me.

  • @francocano6728
    @francocano6728 2 роки тому +3

    26:56 Capt. Price

  • @Noxiousferret47
    @Noxiousferret47 3 роки тому +4

    You should try and make an analysis for watchdogs legion

  • @N1ghtwalk3r
    @N1ghtwalk3r 3 місяці тому +1

    25:55 That dude probably got rejected from art school fr

  • @johnsondemon6073
    @johnsondemon6073 3 роки тому +8

    Mafia 3:If He's Black He better be Dead.

  • @cowerdnerddespacito9518
    @cowerdnerddespacito9518 3 роки тому +20

    Mafia 1 probably has the best pit maneuvers ever

  • @stepsis8437
    @stepsis8437 Рік тому +4

    Mafia 2 needs a remake like Mafia 1 got ❤️
    Even though the game is already perfect I'm talking about graphics

  • @shahxad6533
    @shahxad6533 2 роки тому +1

    Legendary series for wise men

  • @maxicanweed7989
    @maxicanweed7989 3 роки тому +9

    19:42 how you got this car?!!!

  • @bulgarianreaper6587
    @bulgarianreaper6587 3 роки тому +2

    I wonder if you'll do other games, not just mafia and driver.

  • @airpatrol21
    @airpatrol21 3 роки тому +1

    Would you consider doing a fire/EMS logic in games ?

  • @cgseicc
    @cgseicc 2 роки тому

    Nice video, i am looking similar videos yo watch mafia 1 city

  • @cartercolson7975
    @cartercolson7975 3 роки тому +1

    U should do GTA5 police analysis

  • @hatersgonnahate2505
    @hatersgonnahate2505 6 місяців тому +2

    Mafia 1: Realistic
    Mafia 2: Realistic
    Mafia 3: G U N
    Mafia: DE: Realistic

  • @Branbran1993
    @Branbran1993 Рік тому +1

    They really dropped the ball on Mafia 3 altogether. It was the only Mafia game I didn’t bother to finish.

  • @StealthGamerWolf
    @StealthGamerWolf 3 роки тому +2

    killer. Can you do Watch Dogs Legion police AI analysis?

    • @Thekillergreece
      @Thekillergreece  3 роки тому +4

      Most likely after its release.

    • @StealthGamerWolf
      @StealthGamerWolf 3 роки тому

      @@Thekillergreece Mind if you sub to my channel? Btw, I saved you by that trash talker having a huge paragraph of a unappreciated speech down there. I have a trash talker aswell and I get pissed off because my content is hoping and creative. Keep up the analysising vids. It learns the value of how the AI is in games.

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 3 роки тому +1

      @@StealthGamerWolf have my free sub

  • @redcobra7707
    @redcobra7707 8 місяців тому

    0:39 A sentence so simple yet many people still fail to understand it

  • @exoticcrafter4576
    @exoticcrafter4576 3 роки тому +4

    Next is sleeping dogs wanted system analysis

  • @RichieLarpa
    @RichieLarpa Рік тому +6

    12:43 Have anyone noticed the serious downgrade in case of mirror view in Mafia 3? Reflections and shadows are turned off in order to avoid lags and it looks like a poor game from 2004!

  • @russianlobster7754
    @russianlobster7754 3 роки тому +5

    bro the response time thing in mafia 3 is so messed up🤣🤣

    • @Inugami0622
      @Inugami0622 2 роки тому +9

      It's actually quite cool tho, it describes perfectly about the society in current gens. Racism all over the place

    • @someperson9242
      @someperson9242 Рік тому +3

      @@Inugami0622 Yeah, black ppl in the 50s and 60s often faced discrimination.

    • @TemmieContingenC
      @TemmieContingenC Рік тому +2

      Can’t say I agree with how dumbed down it is in some parts. Investigations are great and way better than 1 & 2, but I miss tickets and an actual, robust progression of UOF rather than shooting all your problems.

  • @PatriotGamerBoy
    @PatriotGamerBoy 3 роки тому +1

    my highschool right here

  • @yourlocalFrostingfan
    @yourlocalFrostingfan 2 роки тому

    i hoped in mafia 4 and 5
    that it show you in prison after you get arrested
    cus in mafia 1 & 2 it doesn't show it
    so i hoped hangar 13 make new mechanic for 4th and 5th in the future tho

  • @Pplaye
    @Pplaye 2 місяці тому +1

    Mafia: Innovation.
    Mafia II: Improving innovation.
    Mafia 3: GTA clone.

  • @nassirhussain9962
    @nassirhussain9962 Рік тому

    Yes

  • @volkswagenk7017
    @volkswagenk7017 3 роки тому +8

    Mafia III cops at 1 star behave exactly like Driver Parallel Lines and 76 cops, they don't even pull over you but ram your car like the psycho cops from GTA 5

    • @Branbran1993
      @Branbran1993 Рік тому

      Parallel Lines was a damn good game in my opinion, mostly because it was fun. However, the police mechanics were absolutely garbage.

  • @majorcaleb4889
    @majorcaleb4889 Рік тому +1

    The crazy thing is the PIT wasn’t invented until the 1970s

  • @kebabowmeow7289
    @kebabowmeow7289 11 місяців тому

    Push a little bit police officer in Mafia 3
    - Let’s make a martial law

  • @starryberet4025
    @starryberet4025 Рік тому +1

    Mafia 3 cops be like " he's got a gun!!"

  • @thestingingray114
    @thestingingray114 7 місяців тому

    The police in Mafia 1 love to blow their whistles 😂

  • @somerandomguy4788
    @somerandomguy4788 3 роки тому +4

    I wonder when the gta 4 expansion police ai will be reviewed because i think on both or just one of them. The police Ai is just completely alike to the gta 5 one.

  • @Arielpascuale3
    @Arielpascuale3 3 роки тому +7

    I think the best police in this games is... MAFIA DEFINITIVE EDITION!!!

    • @berat0932
      @berat0932 3 роки тому +15

      I disagree mafia 2 Was a bit better

    • @toniogamingproductions6223
      @toniogamingproductions6223 3 роки тому

      wanted dead or alive way better

    • @JohnnyGuitar50
      @JohnnyGuitar50 2 роки тому

      @@berat0932 please tell me your joking.

    • @dauphongii
      @dauphongii Рік тому +1

      @@JohnnyGuitar50 i agree with him, and hes most certainly not joking.

  • @MediaGuy-2005
    @MediaGuy-2005 2 роки тому +1

    Mafia 3 cops are nuts and have absolutely no chill at all!

    • @AlternativeLoffen
      @AlternativeLoffen 2 роки тому +2

      Lincoln is black.maybe that's the reason why and the game is set in the 60s

  • @kenesufernandez1281
    @kenesufernandez1281 3 роки тому +1

    ❤️♥️

  • @makingarecord2179
    @makingarecord2179 Рік тому +2

    27:16 Cyberpunk 2077

  • @vrtillinfinity
    @vrtillinfinity Рік тому +2

    Well for the time the game is set in and the color of Lincoln’s skin I’d say the cops reacted normal 💀

  • @mansourbellahel-hajj5378
    @mansourbellahel-hajj5378 Рік тому +1

    Well Mafia 3 even if nobody would agree with me on the cops but really for the most part it was actually real and the police back then in the 60s and before were racists against African American people so maybe the cops details maybe was rushed but actually at the same time it was spot on because in reality that's how the black people were treated by local authorities.

  • @musashiblade1512
    @musashiblade1512 2 роки тому +3

    Mafia 1 and 2 has some sort of due process, then the first game you play as a black man, they just shoot you dead. Hmmm. Message?

  • @loganaugustine67
    @loganaugustine67 3 роки тому +1

    Can you do a gta v police behavior analysis video please?

  • @MegaRayan2011
    @MegaRayan2011 3 роки тому

    Watch dogs legion police behaviour analysis

  • @cowerdnerddespacito9518
    @cowerdnerddespacito9518 3 роки тому +2

    I can tell you played mafia 2 definitive edition because of the shaky ness of the steam coming from the sidewalk vents

  • @user-id47802
    @user-id47802 3 роки тому

    Why i get arrested if i assault a civilian in mafia 2 definitive edition? Bruh

  • @warghost6564
    @warghost6564 3 роки тому

    4:50

  • @austinsupreme750
    @austinsupreme750 3 роки тому +2

    watch dogs legion police?

  • @poppytoad911
    @poppytoad911 5 місяців тому

    27:13 He can't think about it if he doesn't have a brain! 💡

  • @yosujin
    @yosujin 3 роки тому

    Only pushing cops m3 is your last day

  • @bearded4276
    @bearded4276 3 роки тому +2

    watchdogs legion metropolitan police and albion

    • @thegamingvillager2392
      @thegamingvillager2392 3 роки тому

      Just Albion as those are main police force. Regular police still there but they play the role as guards in some restricted areas

    • @lewis571
      @lewis571 3 роки тому

      Oi do you have a licence for that phone!

  • @JerryWoo96
    @JerryWoo96 3 роки тому

    what happens when u exit the car and let the car roll into the police? who they gonna charge a driverless car?

  • @thehunchbackmechanic
    @thehunchbackmechanic 3 роки тому +1

    1 STAR kalm
    5 stars PANIK

  • @janooka9474
    @janooka9474 3 роки тому +1

    I guess Im in the VIP list ;3

  • @NotCharAznable
    @NotCharAznable Рік тому +1

    Luckily Mafia 3 is decently moddable. Makes the AI leagues better.

  • @nassirhussain9962
    @nassirhussain9962 Рік тому

    l'm Nasser

  • @vexatha8701
    @vexatha8701 3 роки тому +1

    Police behaviour watch dogs legion???

  • @androxus3073
    @androxus3073 Рік тому

    Conclusion, every Mafia game is a bad game, not in their stories but yes in their game logics

  • @flashstudiosguy
    @flashstudiosguy 3 роки тому +7

    It's scary how political Mafia 3's cops are;
    Attack in Rich White Neighbourhood:"HOLD ON,WE'RE ON THE WAY!"
    Attack in Poor Black Neighbourhood:"Urgh,do I have to...? I just got comfy.."

  • @jayvyawahare4866
    @jayvyawahare4866 3 роки тому +5

    I Think police start shooting right away bcauze the protagonist is man of colour in magia 3

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra 3 роки тому +12

      I don't, I just think it's lazy devs making the police more like predictable police in other games cus it's less effort. Hangar 13 only changed that for Mafia DE to reflect the original game. Mafia 3 cops are just typical game cops.

  • @KeloTheWolfy
    @KeloTheWolfy 9 місяців тому +2

    Mafia III: *Racist simulator*

  • @user-hx9lh2we5i
    @user-hx9lh2we5i 2 роки тому +1

    mafia3 police is racist unfortnatlly

  • @foxyplaygamesbezlitosnysnajper
    @foxyplaygamesbezlitosnysnajper 3 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: Mafia III is the only game who had SWAT 😂

  • @doonishsan
    @doonishsan 3 роки тому +8

    In Mafia 3 police would keep shooting you since they are racist. Not sure if this is accurate in that year but it is sure is accurate in 2020.

    • @doonishsan
      @doonishsan 2 роки тому

      @Herr Goober haha very funny

  • @Inugami0622
    @Inugami0622 2 роки тому +7

    In Mafia 3, police will only shoot you.
    The sad truth of today's society