Transformers Haslab TEASER? BIG REISSUES! Elita-1 Kept Simple!

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  • We get a little teaser from Hasbro Pulse about the upcoming Transformers Haslab item at MegaCon Orlando. 2 big REISSUES for the Transformers brand and Elita-1 gets an Authentics release
    Originally recorded: 01/28/2025
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  • @TransformersSlagPodcast
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  • @slicerneons3300
    @slicerneons3300 2 дні тому +21

    If it is Liomaiser, then it better have Deathcobra as a Stretch Goal.

    • @Lazrael32
      @Lazrael32 2 дні тому +4

      Liokaiser is about the only one i'd be ok with over gigatron

    • @Brandon-McFadden.
      @Brandon-McFadden. 2 дні тому +2

      Lio kaiser would be awesome

  • @michaelflosi
    @michaelflosi 2 дні тому +6

    The supreme comment from the Transformers Tuesday makes me think it’s Daily Atlas. Really want a Liokaiser.

  • @WiSMs
    @WiSMs 2 дні тому +9

    Grandus and Star Garry 2-pack to get you buy HasLab and Titan Star Convoy

  • @daysleeperCid
    @daysleeperCid 3 дні тому +23

    Here's hoping for a Legacy Breakdown reissue. Hardest one to find among Menasor's limbs

    • @Torchpirate99
      @Torchpirate99 2 дні тому +2

      For me it was Wild Rider

    • @Thetransformerboy724
      @Thetransformerboy724 2 дні тому +1

      For me it was dead end for the limbs but mortarmaster out of all of them

    • @distressedtomato
      @distressedtomato 2 дні тому +1

      So weird to hear, over here in the UK all the stunticons were shelf warmers! Tripping over Cosmos and Beachcomber as well......

    • @daviddalrymple2284
      @daviddalrymple2284 2 дні тому +2

      @@distressedtomato As far as I can tell (based on anecdotes and photos people post of UK stores) Transformers seems to have a much larger retail presence in the UK than it does in North America. I don't know if it's because the UK's greater population density lends itself to better distribution, or if it's because people in the UK really like Transformers.
      It's probably a mix of both.

  • @Daltinian95
    @Daltinian95 2 дні тому +13

    I really hope it's Road Cesar or Liokaiser

    • @Brandon-McFadden.
      @Brandon-McFadden. 2 дні тому

      Didn't even think about Road cesar, would be awesome.

  • @McLongSausage
    @McLongSausage 2 дні тому +4

    I was really hoping to get a SS86 Autobot City/Other Movie Significant Locations Playset for the Haslab. I know it's alot to ask and there was no reason to expect it but Tranformers has never really had a large "Playset"and I think Studio Series 86 would be perfect line to tie it into and it the inly way we will ever get a Autobot City unless they released a recolored Metroplex or something and call it Autobot City but that would just not be the same obviously.

  • @perepx
    @perepx 2 дні тому +5

    Hoping for Liokaiser

  • @LordNexus193
    @LordNexus193 3 дні тому +14

    The HasLab could be either
    Raiden
    Overlord
    Road Caesar
    DinoKing with Pretender Shells
    Liokaiser with Lyzack & Deathcobra
    Dai Atlas with Sonic Bomber & Roadfire

    • @KazuyaMithra
      @KazuyaMithra 2 дні тому

      Raiden? Right after the MPG?

    • @killerwolff3048
      @killerwolff3048 2 дні тому

      Plus we just got dinoking

    • @LordNexus193
      @LordNexus193 2 дні тому

      I'm just spit balling Japanese G1 characters who can be contenders for HasLab. I already know we got Raiden for MPG and DinoKing for Legacy United.

    • @LordNexus193
      @LordNexus193 2 дні тому

      In all honesty I have a feeling it's going to be Big Powered or Liokaiser. Now I could be surprise if it something else.

    • @YeldellGW
      @YeldellGW 2 дні тому +1

      Wouldn’t hold my breath for Raiden. As the Basics video put it out there, train alt modes don’t seem to be all that interesting/liked in the western market.

  • @TamashiiRyu
    @TamashiiRyu 2 дні тому +2

    At least Hasbro is being smart to reissue their figures that are going for insane cash on the secondary market. Just waiting on Devcon now...

  • @sandhawk6553
    @sandhawk6553 2 дні тому +6

    Hoping for liokaiser! None of it ever got repainted to something else so no repaints. It’s big enough that it needs the HasLab budget to do it right.

    • @daviddalrymple2284
      @daviddalrymple2284 2 дні тому

      Four of the six Liokaiser bots were repainted as the "Rescue Force" in European G1.

  • @ultra-prime1210
    @ultra-prime1210 3 дні тому +8

    Maybe a grandas and sky garry 2 pack to go with prime? It would complete a collection with 2 characters that probably won't happen at retail. I doubt they'd do ginrai when the masterpiece just came out.

  • @TheServantSlayer7
    @TheServantSlayer7 2 дні тому +3

    Liokaiser needs love too 😢

  • @actualpolarbear5
    @actualpolarbear5 3 дні тому +37

    On one hand if it’s dai atlas, sick I can skip it, if it’s liokaiser, my wallet will weep

    • @singularityisapeepus3856
      @singularityisapeepus3856 3 дні тому +6

      I'm gonna need that liokaiser, I hope. (It would more than likely be released in pieces though at this point)

    • @LordNexus193
      @LordNexus193 3 дні тому

      I hope it's Liokaiser because he one my favorite Transformers combiners.

    • @oliverhendrix8176
      @oliverhendrix8176 2 дні тому +3

      Nah, it’ll be TfOne Steve.

    • @braydenpage1808
      @braydenpage1808 День тому

      ​@@oliverhendrix8176 The greatest most perfect Haslab of all.

  • @Collector_Phil
    @Collector_Phil 2 дні тому

    The only Haslab Transformers up to now I ever needed is their first one, Unicron; a dream come true. I’m so curious to see if any future Haslab TF will strike my preferences, from TF G1 years ‘84 to ‘86

  • @brianpavlina8638
    @brianpavlina8638 2 дні тому +2

    A God Ginrai makes no sense with Takara releasing a Super Ginrai & God Bomber shortly after.

    • @Trebleshot
      @Trebleshot День тому

      I was saying the same thing during the video. They would eat themselves at retail announcing a Haslab God Ginrai the same year the MPG version drops. I'm hoping the Haslab is Liokaiser with all his functionality. The nunchaku weapon and Death Cobra as stretch goals.

  • @coreywong6229
    @coreywong6229 2 дні тому +1

    I got lucky with a beachcomber from japan for like $60.00. Not bad, I could of waited ,but its not like I saw reissue coming for this character. Just happy to have beachcomber. Thankful I'll be getting cosmos as the reissue along with ramjet a month later.

  • @Brandon-McFadden.
    @Brandon-McFadden. 2 дні тому

    My guess is it'll be Dai-Atlas and Sonic-bomber (Commander and leader) with Roadfire, some Micromasters and a stand as Tiers. Cool Elita-1 is getting more media and figures lately, also glad to get another chance at SS86 Ultra Magnus.

  • @eventprogenitor1873
    @eventprogenitor1873 3 дні тому +2

    Hmmm I am leaning towards dreadwing I can see 2 current leader scale figures making up a combined jet and hitting that same price point. Add in a combining flight stand ya I can see it hitting the mark.

  • @ILOVETRANSFORMERSONE
    @ILOVETRANSFORMERSONE 2 дні тому +2

    My theory is that the haslab could maybe be sixshot

  • @Jeradactile
    @Jeradactile 3 дні тому +4

    I was really hoping for a Devcon reissue. I bet he will be back later in the year

    • @brandonwoods9930
      @brandonwoods9930 2 дні тому +1

      Me too.. Devcon was not reissued when SS Overload and Soundwave was reissued.

    • @scooba4247
      @scooba4247 2 дні тому

      @@brandonwoods9930he was reissued around 2-3 months ago

  • @FlyingVEE967
    @FlyingVEE967 2 дні тому

    Did the first original release of Deluxe Beachcomber come with Paradise Parakeet?
    I forgot and I packed mine away…
    Wondering if this new reissue is identical or “new” to include Paradise Parakeet?

  • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
    @AntiDecepticonCampaign 2 дні тому +1

    Good for scalpers I guess?
    We’ll see I’m sure. Not gonna hold out any hope.

  • @youngbutternut5536
    @youngbutternut5536 2 дні тому +1

    Haslab will be Dai Atlas who became Autobot Supreme Commander in TF:Zone, and that fits with the "Supreme" hint we were given a few weeks ago.

    • @Seanmamode05
      @Seanmamode05 2 дні тому

      My opinion Haslab is over

    • @WyattTFdude
      @WyattTFdude 2 дні тому

      @@Seanmamode05 are you actually stupid? Did you forget Omega Prime got 28,000 backers? Every TF Haslab has been overly successful

  • @HungNguyen-ow5pz
    @HungNguyen-ow5pz 2 дні тому +2

    I want to see HasLab make a Grandus figure.
    I don't think he has ever had a second release outside of the original release.
    It would be awesome to get another big base.

  • @Talib1980_Collects
    @Talib1980_Collects 2 дні тому +2

    I’ve been saying the Haslab is a G1 inspired Metroplex. Emily is referring to Scramble City anime short. Bet!!

  • @noDipsherlock349-po3xr
    @noDipsherlock349-po3xr 2 дні тому

    So if we’re going to assume from the hint. I think the possibilities are Liokaiser, Road Caesar, (probably a long shot but) great shot, planet Galvatron, super megatron, overlord, and that’s about all I could think of. (Wait we could probably get the seacons as well, we need an update of them

  • @paulramos4037
    @paulramos4037 2 дні тому +2

    Gigatron/RID Megatron/Galvatron is a MUST! C'mon, HASBRO!

    • @KazuyaMithra
      @KazuyaMithra 2 дні тому

      Retaaaaaaiiiiiil

    • @WyattTFdude
      @WyattTFdude 2 дні тому

      @@KazuyaMithra Gigatron is massive and it’s gonna look like trash if it’s done with retail budget

    • @KazuyaMithra
      @KazuyaMithra 2 дні тому

      @@WyattTFdude People say stuff like this when Star Convoy exists

  • @ahmedjawad9298
    @ahmedjawad9298 2 дні тому +1

    The format started with Haslab is Bad guy, good guy, bad guy, good guy, now bad guy. So G1 characters bad guy Liokiser is 1000% relevant. As if next year is primus means the motion is still on.

  • @michaelbucher9001
    @michaelbucher9001 2 дні тому

    now im hyped for haslab and also worried lol. hoping for liokaiser, road ceasar, powermaster optimus prime or dia atlas with road burn and sonic bomber

  • @capmodesty
    @capmodesty 2 дні тому

    I think the key work is cartoonS, that kicks Dai Atlas out since he was only in one episode... Liokaiser or maybe Road Casear seem more likely, maybe even Raiden

  • @FullMetalLuffy
    @FullMetalLuffy День тому

    i was certainly hoping for Haslab Gigatron - i didnt feel like even say commander class could stretch to a ten mode changer
    Wouldnt say no to a fancy dai atlas/big powered, i have...regrets about the LGEX one from a few years ago.
    Liokaiser, no hesitation. not a single one. day 1 backed.

  • @ryannguyen9470
    @ryannguyen9470 2 дні тому

    I’m so glad they are reissuing Studio 86 Ultra Magnus. I missed it when the small window to preorder came on. I was about to bite the bullet and put out 300 usd for him. I’m so thankful that I waited long enough. My wallet is thankful too.

  • @brandonwoods9930
    @brandonwoods9930 2 дні тому +1

    I wish Hasbro listened to us.. I been screaming at them for their outlet to be updated.

    • @brandonwoods9930
      @brandonwoods9930 2 дні тому

      And I just remembered... Remember when We got Unicron from Haslab? It could be Primus???? if the Hint is G1 related.

  • @JRJohnson1701
    @JRJohnson1701 2 дні тому

    Ginrai in scale to SS86 Prime, with the trailer and Godbomber would be amazing.

  • @A-Microwave
    @A-Microwave 2 дні тому +1

    the jp version car robots is considered part of the g1 universe

    • @SamanthaS92
      @SamanthaS92 2 дні тому

      But it’s available in English dubs. She’d watch it in English if it was in English, she’d only watch subs to something that was never English. Super God Masterforce, Victory… etc… 😅 but I mean they could be trying to misdirect us, it is technically possible.

  • @TamashiiRyu
    @TamashiiRyu 2 дні тому

    Beachcomber pre-order is already sold out? seriously?!

  • @SpykeTheHedgehog
    @SpykeTheHedgehog 2 дні тому

    Don’t think they’d do Ginrai, since MPG just released him, with Godbomber on the way. Dai Atlas would be interesting, but not sure if that’s it. But also, they have been switching between good guy & bad guy with each release, & I don’t think Atlas is well known, compared to others. Maybe… Masterforce Overlord??

  • @nathanfisher3441
    @nathanfisher3441 2 дні тому

    Considering what is to be expected of titan class going forward and what Haslab price wise can allow. I think a Grandus has a future via Haslab. Cause retail titan class has shrunk so that door closed on him. Not to mention transformers Haslab has been favoring the Japanese original series so I really feel like Hasbro has been setting up for Grandus in this manner.

  • @AMUpton
    @AMUpton 2 дні тому

    I'm still waiting for the beachcomber I pre-ordered about a year ago.

  • @wassembashir2618
    @wassembashir2618 2 дні тому

    Will the haslab reveal be streamed?

  • @pupunoob
    @pupunoob 2 дні тому

    Is there really a chance it's ginrai with the MP just shipping out recently?

    • @ralphlucas5057
      @ralphlucas5057 2 дні тому

      My MPG shipped today. But they will get my cash again if I can get the marvel comic head sculpt

  • @ProjectZephyrOfficial
    @ProjectZephyrOfficial 2 дні тому

    It’s hilarious how Hasbros been cooking with authentics😂

  • @thomasmcshane2523
    @thomasmcshane2523 2 дні тому +1

    Just give us a Primus. Why make age of the primes and not give us a Primus.

  • @liamroane8803
    @liamroane8803 2 дні тому

    If it is Japanese g1 it cold be Dia atlas with some of his guys from zone or it could be leokizer from victory or overlord from masterforce and he could come with darkwing and dreadwing

  • @TheGreatDayne1983
    @TheGreatDayne1983 2 дні тому

    Hoping for Ginrai and God Bomber

  • @adrianesaffell9296
    @adrianesaffell9296 3 дні тому +1

    Okay I may have other speculations that it could be a takara combiner form g1 it could be land cross, road Caesar, or liokaiser because she said cartoons not one thing so it could be our first haslab combiner.

    • @chaosenforcerdhm969
      @chaosenforcerdhm969 3 дні тому +1

      My guess is if it is a combiner it would be road Caesar as the others just sound too expensive
      Especially land cross

  • @tomlaney2053
    @tomlaney2053 2 дні тому +1

    Beast wars neo beast wars 2

  • @FairladyZ2005
    @FairladyZ2005 2 дні тому

    Ultra Magnus preordered! Thanks!

  • @Lazrael32
    @Lazrael32 2 дні тому +1

    I'd rather get gigatron. I'm gonna be upset if it's ginrai. not because i don't want a decent ginrai. but because it'll show that Haslab, the non optimus producing special line, will likely have become a solely optimus producing line.

  • @scottduncan5525
    @scottduncan5525 2 дні тому +1

    i hope it's NOT Dai Atlas or Ginrai, because if that's the case, we will never get one in the retail market

    • @killerwolff3048
      @killerwolff3048 2 дні тому +1

      We already got ginrai in retail look how that turned out give him the victory saber treatment do him right

    • @scottduncan5525
      @scottduncan5525 2 дні тому +1

      @@killerwolff3048 i want a proper ginrai in retail that can do all the forms without need of a upgrade kit/figure

    • @Joejoejoejoejo12
      @Joejoejoejoejo12 2 дні тому

      @@killerwolff3048only turned out that way because they chose to remold magnus + they could easily make him a commander that’s a voyager scale + trailer type thing

  • @jjburelison1557
    @jjburelison1557 2 дні тому

    I bought magnus when it came out today when I saw this I knew I had to buy this

  • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
    @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 дні тому

    it doesn't disqualify RID considering that up until the Unicron Trilogy every show was the same continuity in japan... but that is a gigantic nitpick. Odds are it is something from headmasters to Zone. Headmasters is unlikely as seemingly everything has been covered that could be a haslab unless they want another go at Fortress or Zerak. We could see Overlord to coincide with MPG God Ginrai, Liokaiser to complete the Destron Combiners, Dai Atlus yeah and I would hope he comes with Road Fire and Sonic Bomber to make Big Powered. I doubt Devil Z, Violen Jiger and Dark Nova are on the table but I'd laugh so incredibly hard if they were. if Battlestars can be considered Grandus and Sky Garry are possibly on the table. Super Megatron would be interesting but they could easily commander class that to go against Star Convoy if the G1 combiners can take a break from taking the slot. Can't think of anything else unless they want to touch on JP Beast Wars with things like MajinZerak or Unicron or King Neptune

  • @JRJohnson1701
    @JRJohnson1701 2 дні тому

    I don't think Dai Atlas will get as funded as Ginrai

  • @megalosaurusstudios2
    @megalosaurusstudios2 3 дні тому +7

    I’m hoping the next HasLab is Liokaizer

  • @Prime501
    @Prime501 2 дні тому

    Oh no my resale value
    Anyways it'll be interesting to see who the haslab is but Imma have to sit this one out. My year is already planned out through anime figures and other crap.

  • @Hurricanelive
    @Hurricanelive День тому

    Just need Breakdown and a dark green Greenlight reissue. People are asking for em. I hope the Haslab is in this order, Big Powered Dai Atlas, Bomber and Roadfire, LioKaiser, Road King, or Rail Racer. Want BigPower first, but would settle for LioKaiser, but it should be a deep cut Japanese combiner, not Metroplex or Primus.G1 Plex and SkyGaddy and Grandus can easily be at the $150 psuedo titan retail Convoy price

  • @gamerofcomics492
    @gamerofcomics492 2 дні тому

    Actually Car Robots is Japanese G1 canon

  • @danielquay4485
    @danielquay4485 3 дні тому

    I'll be content with my legends big powered if it's dai atlas

  • @FennekinTF
    @FennekinTF 2 дні тому

    I need Ultra Magnus and Beachcomber's reissues! I'm hoping for a Evolution Bludgeon reissue because I really need him and prefer it over the United Doom 'n Destruction version
    Don't really care for the Authentics line, but its cool to see Elita get a toy in the toyline.
    Edit: I really much so hope that they could make a RID01 Commander Class Optimus Prime soon, if I can't get a hold of the Haslab, which I did not back. Hopefully theres an extra copy I could snag at some point.

    • @ralphlucas5057
      @ralphlucas5057 2 дні тому

      Evolution bludgeon is available on Amazon right now $50

    • @FennekinTF
      @FennekinTF День тому

      @@ralphlucas5057 Still need a reissue. Hes 30+ bucks msrp. $50 is too much for my liking

    • @FennekinTF
      @FennekinTF День тому

      @@ralphlucas5057 Still need a reissue. Hes 30+ bucks MSRP. $50 is too much for my liking

    • @FennekinTF
      @FennekinTF День тому

      ​@@ralphlucas5057 Still need a reissue. Hes 30+ bucks MSRP. 50 bucks is too much for my liking

    • @FennekinTF
      @FennekinTF День тому

      @@ralphlucas5057 Still need a reissue. Hes $30+ MSRP. $50 is too much for my liking

  • @tristennorris3725
    @tristennorris3725 2 дні тому

    I agree with dai atlas or super/god ginari

  • @Kooster69
    @Kooster69 2 дні тому

    Considering that Hasbro is reissuing SS 86 Commander Class Ultra Magnus, I'm thinking that the next HasLab Transformers will tie in with Ultra Magnus. Specifically, the Transformers G1 Japanese character who ended Ultra Magnus. That's Sixshot. While we did get a Titans Return Sixshot in 2016, his trademark is due for a refresh...if Hasbro still wants to keep his trademark. And to make a HasLab Sixshot worth the price point, while not upsetting the fandom about retools that won't happen, I think that the next HasLab Transformers will also include Greatshot. Again, Greatshot was last released in 2016 and is due for a trademark refresh. Retooling a HasLab Sixshot into a HasLab Greatshot will help control the tooling costs for the next HasLab Transformers. With the HasLab budget, we could wind up with the best possible Sixshot and Greatshot that Hasbro can offer that's not an MPG or AMT release. If all of this happens, and if Hasbro wanted to get the fandom even more excited, I would like Hasbro to release a remastered Blu-ray release of the Headmasters. (Added) With the release of AotP Titan Class Star Optimus Prime, we've been wondering what can HasLab do that the Titan Class can't? I think that well done Six Changers is something that HasLab can do that the Titan Class can't. If the next HasLab Transformers is Sixshot and Greatshot, then I expect the MSRP to be over $200.

  • @chaosenforcerdhm969
    @chaosenforcerdhm969 3 дні тому +1

    I Seriously doubt god ginrai I feel that would sell too well in retail

  • @sandhawk6553
    @sandhawk6553 2 дні тому

    Wish they would reissue Nova Prime.

  • @remarkablecook
    @remarkablecook 2 дні тому

    Anyone hoping for six shot?

  • @supersonicandpikachufan1259
    @supersonicandpikachufan1259 2 дні тому

    Please let it be in Unicron.

  • @360degressboy
    @360degressboy 2 дні тому

    hasbro pls just this once pls be dai atlas or overlord

  • @chad4208
    @chad4208 2 дні тому

    theres only 2 figures I didnt buy and want now.... I have not bought either....lol

  • @TJsVette
    @TJsVette 2 дні тому

    We need a single Hound release along with Powerglide, Seaspray and Windcharger!!!! Quit with the reissues and complete the g1 line!!!

  • @thomasmcshane2523
    @thomasmcshane2523 2 дні тому

    To me this would be another waste of a haslab. All I want is a primus.

    • @Courier-gq6ym
      @Courier-gq6ym 2 дні тому

      Why make a character that was already announced weeks ago into a crowd funded figure, we already know primus is coming at the end of the line, Primus would be a waste of a haslab slot

    • @thomasmcshane2523
      @thomasmcshane2523 2 дні тому

      @Courier-gq6ym how do you know it coming

    • @Courier-gq6ym
      @Courier-gq6ym 2 дні тому

      @@thomasmcshane2523 cus Hasbro already told us that each of the Primes being released this year are going to come with a component for a weapon that primus can wield, a weapon for him to use with no figure to do so would be stupid, Hasbro fully intent of releasing a new primus once this line ends it's run.

    • @thomasmcshane2523
      @thomasmcshane2523 2 дні тому

      @Courier-gq6ym wouldn't it be smarter to tell people before the line starts that the weapons are for primus. So people could get the 13 as they come out. What if people miss the 13 find out primus has a weapon and have trouble finding the 13 because they are from last year.

  • @grayj7441
    @grayj7441 2 дні тому

    Need a Prowl Earthrise re-release

  • @KazuyaMithra
    @KazuyaMithra 2 дні тому +2

    Kinda tired of Haslabs being relegated to "anime" Transformers. The average retail shopper doesn't know the difference between a Japanese exclusive character and Bumblebee, every transformer to them is Bumblebee.

    • @Collector_Phil
      @Collector_Phil 2 дні тому +1

      For real, I thought it was a one off thing but it has indeed become a thread

    • @Courier-gq6ym
      @Courier-gq6ym 2 дні тому +1

      Doesn't that justify the Japanese transformers being haslab? The average casual wants bumblebee, not cancer, Dai atlas or browning, so it has to be crowd funded by the fans of that character

    • @KazuyaMithra
      @KazuyaMithra 2 дні тому +1

      @@Courier-gq6ym No? Because my point was that the average consumer doesn't know enough about Transformers to discern them. Most consumers think Gundam is Transformers too.

  • @danbarnes300
    @danbarnes300 2 дні тому

    I thought they weren't making toys anymore.

    • @antiseize11
      @antiseize11 2 дні тому +2

      They're licencing out certain brands to different companies. Hasbro is keeping Transformers but reducing the amount of toys they'll produce.

    • @danbarnes300
      @danbarnes300 2 дні тому +1

      @antiseize11 I see. Thanks.

  • @Seanmamode05
    @Seanmamode05 2 дні тому

    Haste hasbro toy 👎

  • @BGKing80
    @BGKing80 2 дні тому

    I'm sorry but the beachcomber is no better than the previous beachcomber.

  • @liamroane8803
    @liamroane8803 2 дні тому

    If it is Japanese g1 it cold be Dia atlas with some of his guys from zone or it could be leokizer from victory or overlord from masterforce and he could come with darkwing and dreadwing