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Neil Young - Ohio [Live At Massey Hall 1971
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Thank you for treating this song with the reverence it deserves.
This song still sends a shiver up my spine. I am afraid history is about to repeat itself on a much larger scale.
Studio version should be heard. This is a great performance, but there's more going on in the studio version. Worth checking out.
Definitely need to hear the Rock version of this. Major difference!
At least give it a listen. ua-cam.com/video/TRE9vMBBe10/v-deo.html
Yeah , i love the bass line in the studio version.
@@roberts.5136 agreed .
yeah totally different take... both good, but studio version is definitive
This was a traumatic time for my generation. This song held so much meaning for us. The Vietnam War was raging, our husbands, brothers, sons, cousins, all of our men were being killed. For what? We never got the answer to that question. But when our soldiers came home, they were spit on, called "baby killers" and more. This whole country was in turmoil. I married a Vietnam vet, and went through the flashbacks he use to have. He was a pow for 3 months before the war ended. I could go on about this subject, but I won't.
"For what?" Good question. Or as John Kerry asked in his Senate testimony, "How can you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?" Although I was only 11 when Kent State happened, I lived in Columbus and had older siblings, so I was well aware of it. My older sister was at Ohio State, which closed down for a week after Kent. The student movement was so strong that all the administrations around the country were afraid of their students, basically. At Columbia and Berkeley, students occupied admin offices for days or weeks. The worst thing for the families of the Kent dead was the following cover-up. No one was ever held responsible, despite evidence against Gov. Rhodes (and possibly Nixon).
On May 15, 1970, two students were killed at Jackson State in Mississippi. This was only 11 days after Kent. People don't remember this event as well sometimes, probably because those students were black.
My Husband was there and my Dad. They both still have nightmares to this day. My husband is always fighting in his sleep and whimpering and punching the wall and sometimes me if I don’t move out of the way.
@ShariSez1 There's a very real reason we were dropping bombs on the communists, and it wasn't just for the military industrial complex to make profit. Did you forget we were still doing "duck and cover" drills in school in the 1960's? Or that the communists killed roughly 100 million in the last century? I'm not saying the military industrial complex didn't make a profit but it wasn't why we were there. That's just BS you were taught by your liberal school teachers.
@@readhistory2023 So, we made the world safe so Nike can make effing tennis shoes in Hanoi!
@@readhistory2023 So, we made the world safe...for Nike to make effing tennis shoes in Hanoi at the cost of over 50,000 kids, and that's not "liberal" BS!
I love that you reacted to this. This song needs a new audience. We’re back there now. Thank you.
nicely put
Gotta love this man's heart. He's not even American, he's Canadian. He didn't have to care about us.
I'm not ashed to admit this song makes me cry every time.
Listening on the anniversary of the tragic day... 05.04. in 2021. Always brings me to tears. Every single version. Every performance.
Love Neil Young, he always has something important to say. 🙏
True anti war anthem. Written by a Canadian legend in music
It really wasn't anti-war. It just recorded an event that never should have happened.
as a Canadian from neil youngs home town please dont call him Canadian he gave up his citizenship to become an american
@thomas brunn im not disagreeing that he is talented im just stating the fact that he is NOT Canadian
@@fiverx2159 He's a dual citizen, he did it so he could vote against the anti American policies of the Republicans and anyone stomping on the rights of the people.
@@fiverx2159 Absolutely UNTRUE! Young moved to California in the mid 60's and was granted US citizen only a couple of years ago. He said in an interview that he applied for US citizenship so he could vote against Donald Trump in the 2020 election. Neil and his wife Daryl Hannah, moved back to Canada and live in a cottage near his childhood hometown Omemee, Ontario sometime in 2020 to isolate themselves from Covid-19. Neil Young is VERY much a proud Canadian! If you took a couple of minutes to do some research, you would know this. Don't regurgitate everything you hear without knowing the facts. ✌
One of the most important protest songs of the time.
Maybe next, some Marvin Gaye. What's Going On? a d Black Eyed Peas...'Where is the Love?'.
A very sad day in the history of our country .
Heartstung - Exactly what I was gonna say - ☝️😑
I was 13 when this happened. I remember the photo of the young girl kneeling by Jeffrey Miller. The look of horror on her face. So sad.
Linda Nadeau iconic image🙏🏼
16 then, such a scar on our country and psyches in our innocence.
I remember this. At 12 years old it really hit hard. Never saw things the same. Thank you for respecting the memory of these innocent young people. 💜🌿
I heard an interview that Neil
Young wrote this in 20 minutes after he read the newspaper about this. There were multiple protests around the country. Very volatile time- not unlike now.
There's a David Crosby interview out there somewhere about it .
I hear Crosby is not the most favorite person of Young these days . Stills and Nash not lovin' Crosby either .
Neil Young has said that David Crosby put a focus on it that prompted him to write it.
@@p47thunderbolt68 I can't find it but I've seen it. Crosby was talking about how afterwards people were claiming they wrote that to "cash in" on the Kent State tragedy, but he would tell them, "That's not what happened. I was there when he heard the news and I was there when he wrote it. He was PISSED."
Yes. That's why there's only one verse of lyrics. Neil wanted to get the record out asap.
I am a viet nam vet and came back on March 1970. I was in nam as a result of the draft and selective service. I was infuriated what the national guard was ordered to do.Only guys my own age who got in the guard to avoid the draft.The military has complete control,but they don't make policy! One can only blame the Nixon administration for inflaming college students!
Please also watch the one with all four of Crosby Stills Nash and Young singing! It's a short film with actual scenes of Kent State at the time.
Where can we find it?
@@betsymaguireohara8959 When I search "CSNY Ohio" it's the first result that comes up. It was uploaded 8 years ago by someone named Mitch Mumby.
Thanks for playing Ohio. I went to school with Allison Krause's sister Lori. The tragedy galvanized our peace group to work harder to end the war.
This one and For What It's Worth by The Buffalo Springfield!
Neil Young. Excellent choice but listen to the original recording there’s more anger and rage in it.
@Willie Gordon kinda like we never revolted against England, yeah wonder how that would've worked? Especially now that we know about the Gulf of Tonkin....so dont go against liars?
@Willie Gordon So if Martin Luther King would've stayed out the government's business everything would've turned out okay? So let hundreds of military men getting killed EVERY day go unnoticed?
Absolutely wrong Live electric version way better
I agree.
Willie Gordon Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys Student Demonstration Time is a more powerful song that covered Kent State and the Jackson State shootings a few days later. Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys prevented from playing at the July 4 concert at the Lincoln Memorial by Reagan sec. of interior James Watt over this song.
There was one young woman shot and all the papers showed her picture. That’s what Neil Young is referring to when he says, “what if you knew her?” That really hits hard to me. I d love to see your reaction to Angels Among Us by Alabama.
I was a grade school child living in Northeast Ohio when the Kent State massacre happened, and I have memories of this day.
We lived in a small town in between two large cities, Cleveland and Akron, and the college town of Kent was nearby. I remember trying to cross the road with my mom in the family van; the road was the main road out of our town, which led to the entrances to the interstate, and the Ohio Turnpike.
We couldn't get across to where my dad was working.
The road leading to/from Kent was clogged with bumper to bumper traffic; it was cars loaded with KSU students, fleeing the campus. The campus had been shut down after the shootings, and all the students ordered to leave. All those cars were full of students, trying to get to the interstate or the turnpike, to leave the area. The line of cars went all the way from Kent to those on ramps. I still remember like it was yesterday; the looks in some of those kids' eyes, through the car windows.
Once we finally were able to get over to the truck stop, where my dad had a supplemental part time job, I remember my dad had a story to tell, too. He told us how this young woman had shown up, apparently there when the shootings happened. He said she had blood on her clothes. She came to the door of the lobby... she must have walked all the way from KSU...asking for help; they turned her away. My dad and the other guy working with him that day were laughing about it, because they didn't approve of "hippies". Even as a nearly eight year old child, I knew that was wrong, and I told my dad so. But who listens to a kid, right?
Those are my memories of that day... still with me. Kent State was the first time that the military (in this case, the Ohio National Guard) ever turned their weapons on its own citizens, on American soil. It was awful.
You should also check out the music and videos of the 80s New Wave band Devo; two of their members were Kent State students, and were there that day.
Yes they were.
The protest at Kent State University was all about the USA'S bombing of Cambodia. The question is why was the National Guard sent there with live ammo???
www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy Friday evening in downtown Kent began peacefully with the usual socializing in the bars, but events quickly escalated into a violent confrontation between protesters and local police. The exact causes of the disturbance are still the subject of debate, but bonfires were built in the streets of downtown Kent, cars were stopped, police cars were hit with bottles, and some store windows were broken. The entire Kent police force was called to duty as well as officers from the county and surrounding communities. Kent Mayor Leroy Satrom declared a state of emergency, called Governor James Rhodes' office to seek assistance, and ordered all of the bars closed. The decision to close the bars early increased the size of the angry crowd. Police eventually succeeded in using tear gas to disperse the crowd from downtown The next day, Saturday, May 2, Mayor Satrom met with other city officials and a representative of the Ohio National Guard who had been dispatched to Kent. Mayor Satrom then made the decision to ask Governor Rhodes to send the Ohio National Guard to Kent. The mayor feared further disturbances in Kent based upon the events of the previous evening, but more disturbing to the mayor were threats that had been made to downtown businesses and city officials as well as rumors that radical revolutionaries were in Kent to destroy the city and the university. Satrom was fearful that local forces would be inadequate to meet the potential disturbances, and thus about 5 p.m. he called the Governor's office to make an official request for assistance from the Ohio National Guard.
The 50 year anniversary is May 4th, 2020 at Kent State. The place where the students died has markers in a parking lot. This is one of the saddest days in American history and changed the direction and narrative of the Vietnam war. May they R.I.P.
Still SO relevant today. As I write this, the Natl Guard is being deployed in several major cities.
Some excellent comments here detailing how powerful this moment was. Thanks India, great choice. And like many said, the studio version has all the passion and anger and worth a listen.
Another deep one, Needle & the Damage Done...
Very respectful and emotional
reaction to a song about a real tragedy.
I think some people called it "the national anthem of the anti-war movement". There were lots of songs that could compete for that title in those days. "liked"
To be sung right after the fish cheer. : )
@@hannabaal150 You mean Country Joe? "Fixin' To Die Rag"?
@@daveberntson4081 The very same. He usually did the fish cheer before Fixin' to Die. It was cleaned up for the recording, but live it was "Gimme an F! Gimme a U! Gimme a C, gimme a...what's that spell?" Fixin' to DIe and Superbird, you tell 'em, Joe!
Or Fortunate son … about draft dodgers and the CIA
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When you said, "Why? Why?" you didn't know the studio version ends with David Crosby adlibbing "Why? Why? How many more?" through actual tears.
Neil and David tell the story about how shortly after the shooting, David went to Neil's house with a magazine with the shooting cover story and he explained it to Neil. Neil immediately sat down and wrote the song. When he finished and played essentially this version for David, David called Graham Nash and told him to book a studio immediately. A few days later they recorded it and less than a month later they released it.
Can you imagine actually referencing the president's name in the song? "Tin soldiers and Nixon coming .... "
Always loved Neil. Even more respect that he became a U.S. citizen so that he could, as a proper citizen, give trump the shit he so richly deserves.
@@ohioskane363 hes a pathetic snow flake like you.
Neil Young is an amazing writer. The original version has Stephen Stills crying “How many more? WHY? Why??” as it closes. The immediacy of it-done less than a month or so after the shooting-has always made me cry.
May 4th of this year will mark the 50th anniversary of the Kent State shootings. Nixon's still coming...
Yes, it will.
He’s not coming he’s just breathing hard
@@dasboot211221
He lives on in the sociopathic, narcissistic Cult 45er @ 1600. The prick is rusty orange, breathing really hard, and ready to fan the flames of division, hatred, and ignorance. His disciples will join in at his direction. For them he is a Prophet who speaks only Truth. They are as sick as him.
@@oscarwilde6649
Absolutely. A terrible leader.
@Jack Cade
Liar.
I've dared to watch foxnews.
There is nothing but fear-based commentary.
I love your reactions to music 🎶 I have listened to all my life you are so beautiful especially you're honesty and how you genuinely get the so like Ohio and Southern Man love respect peace ✌ and happiness 😊 to you
I was almost 12 that day. Lived, and still live 'bout a half hour away from Kent. I was terrified then. Went to the branch in Canton. History major. Can't believe it is 50 years this May. Will try to visit the site on the 4th.
So much to take in, a few moments. It is very deep. Thank you. ❤
My daughter attends Kent State. We live less than 15 mins from the campus. This yr is the 50th anniversary.
Long live the spirit of Kent and Jackson State!
Not actually Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. Just Neil Young by himself
Young is a brilliant songwriter... the other three are alright. ; )
@@robertjohnson1681 Exactly. Why is most everyone dense to this. I mean Crosby wrote a couple of pretty good songs but from his days with the Byrds he has sucked as writer. 8 miles high was more Mcguinn.
@@oppothumbs1
I'm sure he and the others did plenty of contributing.
Oppothumbs M what he’s commenting on isn’t the songwriting skills of Crosby...it’s the fact that this is Neil Young performing the song by himself at his own concert. The studio version of this song is the actual group Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young..
The CSNY original is GREAT
I graduated high school in 70. This song still brings tears to my eyes.
These were tough times. I was a freshman in college. 11 days later there were the Jackson State killings with more student protesters killed. America was torn in two by the Vietnam War and all that went with it. Some incredible music was written in those days, voicing some of political and moral agony the nation was going thru. Kinda reminds me of right now.....
Yep, It reminds me of how the media can paint a picture of what they want you to believe and push their agenda Just like they do today. This is what really happened by KSU full details and all the names of the students killed and injured- like they were told not to show up that day, because they feared the Governor for a state of STATE OF EMERGENCY - these innocent kids were rioting starting fires in the streets throwing bottles at cop cars,breaking store windows (I remember that happening when Obama was President. (only worst they were allowed to loot,also) the Next day while throwing rocks at the NG that never shot at them good little innocent girls and boys set the ROTC building on fire. then they got in the way of the firemen trying to put it out. the next day more rock throwing and then the Governor came and threatened a STATE OF EMERGENCY after that they told Ban the Rally NO rally but those innocent loving kids showed up -- please read this give an accurate account of what happened - stay informed read ,read,and read some more before you believe everything - get both sides of the story www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy
You can chose to believe whichever version of history you chose. Happily, you still have that right in America today.
Fact is, more than half of the students shot at Kent State (killed and wounded) that day were 100% uninvolved with the demonstration, and were simply going to their classes. You know- like normal college students at school, trying to get their education...
of the four killed:
Bill Schroeder, 19, Eagle Scout, ROTC scholarship applicant, honor student. He was trying to go between classes. He was 382 feet from the nearest guardsman, laying face down on the ground when he was shot thru the back and killed by a Guardsman's high powered rifle. (That is more than the length of a football filed.) He was in no way participating in the protest.
Sandy Scheuer, 20. honor student, walking between classes was shot thru the neck by a Guardsman's high powered rifle at 390 feet from the nearest Guardsman. She was in no way participating in the protest.
Fact is, there were ZERO weapons found among the students. Yes, they (some of them) were throwing rocks but a fusillade of bullets from high powered military rifles seems to be WAAAAAY over the top as a reaction to rock throwing.
I was not there. But I had two relatives, cousins, that were there, one senior one sophomore. You will just have to pardon me if I take their version over yours.
@@mudbug73us on that day Fact only Person a Girl was going to class Sandra Shreur. The rest were told to ban the rally on May 4th but didn't listen - they were told this because the National Guard had full control of the KSU and the Governor threatened to Issue a State of Emergency..Sandra and her family gets my deepest respect But, all the others were told not to show up at the rally, she would be alive, today had they didn't listened [ www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy] This is where I got my info ,the media back then lied too to push their agenda just like they do today- I would think KSU would know what happened as well as have back up. Fact for Hollyweird days the students were not peaceful the reason the national guard was called in the first place tells you that they we're peaceful protests like the media, the songs and constantly projects. The innocent students that believe in Peace and Love started fires in the streets, they threw bottles at police cars and broke windows of local businesses So the Mayor and the Governor called in the National Guardsmen.(NG's). and hahahaha the military uses a high powered rifle, tooo funny they had to shoot tear gas into the crowds of peaceful loving protesters that threw rocks at them, For 3 days and evenings then after the Governor told the news papers and the students how pathetic and embarrassing these sweet darling peaceful angels were. BTW they burned down the ROTC building at KSU and got in the way of the firefighters trying to put the fire out, The ignoramuses don't seem to care that that fire is capable of spreading to other buildings and they probably would of also been responsible for killing not only Sandra Schreur but others Luckily the tear gas held them back, Throwing Rocks wasn't the total reason to fear these students were feared WHO MADE THE DECISION TO BAN THE RALLY OF MAY 4?
Conflicting evidence exists regarding who was responsible for the decision to ban the noon rally of May 4. At the 1975 federal civil trial, General Robert Canterbury, the highest official of the Guard, testified that widespread consensus existed that the rally should be prohibited because of the tensions that existed and the possibility that violence would again occur. Canterbury further testified that Kent State President Robert White had explicitly told Canterbury that any demonstration would be highly dangerous. In contrast, White testified that he could recall no conversation with Canterbury regarding banning the rally.
The decision to ban the rally can most accurately be traced to Governor Rhodes' statements on Sunday, May 3 when he stated that he would be seeking a state of emergency declaration from the courts. Although he never did this, all officials.Guard, University, Kent.assumed that the Guard was now in charge of the campus and that all rallies were illegal. Thus, University leaders printed and distributed on Monday morning 12,000 leaflets indicating that all rallies, including the May 4 rally scheduled for noon, were prohibited as long as the Guard was in control of the campus. Sorry I will still take this version over theirs because they were told not to be there and had they not showed up ever one would of probably lived.WHAT EVENTS LED DIRECTLY TO THE SHOOTINGS?
Shortly before noon, General Canterbury made the decision to order the demonstrators to disperse. A Kent State police officer standing by the Guard made an announcement using a bullhorn. When this had no effect, the officer was placed in a jeep along with several Guardsmen and driven across the Commons to tell the protestors that the rally was banned and that they must disperse. This was met with angry shouting and rocks, and the jeep retreated. Canterbury then ordered his men to load and lock their weapons, tear gas canisters were fired into the crowd around the Victory Bell, and the Guard began to march across the Commons to disperse the rally. The protesters moved up a steep hill, known as Blanket Hill, and then down the other side of the hill onto the Prentice Hall parking lot as well as an adjoining practice football field. Most of the Guardsmen followed the students directly and soon found themselves somewhat trapped on the practice football field because it was surrounded by a fence. Yelling and rock throwing reached a peak as the Guard remained on the field for about 10 minutes. Several Guardsmen could be seen huddling together, and some Guardsmen knelt and pointed their guns, but no weapons were shot at this time. The Guard then began retracing their steps from the practice football field back up Blanket Hill. As they arrived at the top of the hill, 28 of the more than 70 Guardsmen turned suddenly and fired their rifles and pistols. Many guardsmen fired into the air or the ground. However, a small portion fired directly into the crowd. Altogether between 61 and 67 shots were fired in a 13-second period.WHAT EVENTS LED DIRECTLY TO THE SHOOTINGS?
Shortly before noon, General Canterbury made the decision to order the demonstrators to disperse. A Kent State police officer standing by the Guard made an announcement using a bullhorn. When this had no effect, the officer was placed in a jeep along with several Guardsmen and driven across the Commons to tell the protestors that the rally was banned and that they must disperse. This was met with angry shouting and rocks, and the jeep retreated. Canterbury then ordered his men to load and lock their weapons, tear gas canisters were fired into the crowd around the Victory Bell, and the Guard began to march across the Commons to disperse the rally. *The protestes moved up a steep hill, known as Blanket Hill, and then down the other side of the hill onto the Prentice Hall parking lot as well as an adjoining practice football field. Most of** the Guardsmen followed the students directly and soon found themselves somewhat trapped on the practice football field because it was surrounded by a fence. ***Yelling and rock throwing reached a peak as the Guard remained on the field for about 10 minutes." Several Guardsmen could be seen huddling together, and some Guardsmen knelt and pointed their guns, but no weapons were shot at this time. The Guard then began retracing their steps from the practice football field back up Blanket Hill. As they arrived at the top of the hill, 28 of the more than 70 Guardsmen turned suddenly and fired their rifles and pistols. Many guardsmen fired into the air or the ground. However, a small portion fired directly into the crowd. Altogether between 61 and 67 shots were fired in a 13-second period. THIS WAS WAS NOT A PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION *Protester's moved to football field National Guardsmen followed and realized they were hoodwinked ** The Guards felt trapped *** Yelling Rock throwing and and being trapped took it's toll.
@@mudbug73us To add support for your statement; Of the 13 students shot, just 5 are identified as protesters; Jeffrey Miller, Allison Krause, Joseph Lewis Jr., Thomas Grace & Alan Canfora. 7 were not protesting; Sandra Scheuer, William Schroeder, John Cleary (all 3 walking to classes), Dean Kahler (observing, while waiting for class to start), James Russell (walking across campus, to turn in final project), Robert Stamps (observing) & Donald MacKenzie (walking from Franklin Hall, back to where he lived). I’ve not found anything about #13, Douglas Wrentmore.
I think the poster who so “passionately” stated that only 1 non-protester was shot has simply misunderstood parts of an article on the Kent State site. Regarding “misinformation & misunderstanding”, the article uses an example from a book, which said, “Four young people were killed, shot in the back, including two women who had been walking to class." The article clarifies only William Schroeder was shot in the back and that only 1 of the women, Sandra Scheuer, was walking to class. It appears the poster who responded to you mistook the correction, which was specific to the error about the 2 women, as applying to everyone present.
The article also divides civilian attendees by just 3 categories; Approx. 500 “core demonstrators”, 1000 “cheerleaders” & 1500 “spectators.” Presumably all who had “non-protest” reasons to be there (students between classes, guests, faculty, other employees, etc.), are in the “spectators” category, which seems to have given the poster the impression that of 3000 civilians on the open (not closed) commons, of a large, in-session college, at lunch time, on a sunny day, all but Sandra Scheuer had been told not to be there. Interesting conclusion.
@@WandaCasamento59 Hey Wanda, you're a right wing Republican/Trumper closet Nazi, right? Just checking, Il Facista!
I still am heart broken over the murder of students at Ohio State, ordered by Nixon 💔😡 The front page of newspapers across the country show a young woman holding her arms up, screaming/wailing over the dead body of an unarmed student, it is something I will not get out of my mind. Neil Young really told the horror of the murders, I don’t know if any national guard paid for these killings. Neil Young is a fellow Canadian, he has never been afraid to tell the world about unjust wars, civil rights issues, standing up for the Indigenous peoples with their struggles, Farmers starving while trying to feed people, corruption in politics & the judiciary…. Looks like history is repeating itself around the world especially with Human Rights.
Thanks for reacting to another amazing song by Neil Young 🇨🇦🥰💥☮️🇨🇦
Neil Young is just awe inspiring.
Only 4 were killed lot more injured ,protesting the Vietnam war ,sad day
Thank you for caring about them.
We will never forget.🇺🇸
If you want to freak yourself out (re: scare yourself) try "Eve Of Destruction" - Barry McGuire
" … and you tell me, over and over and over and over again my friend, you don't believe....we're on the eve of destruction..." But he also had a song out called "The Dawn of Correction". GREAT STUFF.
And that song is still true today
Thanks for reminding me about that song, I'll listen to it next .......
Wrong okay for time but kinda wimpy
Kent State tragedy. I watched the news that day and I’ll never ever forget it. I thought that our world was ending. That photo was burned into my brain. Those were some of the worst times and also the best of times. It changed us forever.
This song was written after a student protest at Kent State University, went bad, when the Ohio National Guard was called out on the students. For a time, students would stand directly in front of the Guuardsmen, placing flowers in the rifle barrels. To my knowledge, it was never determined, but at least one of the Guardsmen, let off a shot and some students were killed. The protesters were not violent, as some are today.
They were also burning buildings down, damaging other property. They also had a lot of unruly people running around Kent. I've been hanging around there for over 20 years - you hear things
The accepted narrative is bullshit. The "non-violent" protesters had burnt down the ROTC building and were blocking the streets and cussing out the locals. The governor called in the Ohio National Guard in an attempt to restore order. Young's hateful reference to "tin soldiers" is truly ironic, because getting a slot in the National Guard was a huge privilege and it was a guarantee to keep you out of Vietnam. The students had been throwing rocks and bottles at the Guardsmen and screaming profanities. In the heat of the moment a Guardsmen fired a shot which led to more rounds fired and the tragic result was four students dead. The students were not innocent victims and the Guardsmen were not executioners. Anyone putting flowers down the barrels of rifles is ignorant. This song reveals the self-righteous narcissism and immaturity of large segments of Woodstock Nation.
We burned the fucking Bank of America down in Isla Vista (UCSB)...Should have burned more.
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young were one of the most political rock bands of the 60's and 70's. Check out , "Wooden Ships". We deeply felt all of these songs.
This version, which I'd never heard, has a ton of power. Never realized there were that few words, though, nor that the massacre happened on my third birthday.
Thanks for saying their names.❤
I remember when this song came out. Great theme for that era.... 😓 the Ohio debacle was horrendous and sad. I do like the CSNY original.
Ohio is a moving song by itself ... and to see You, young India (not born a that time), reacting sooooo honestly and understanding sooooo well what was going at that time ...it moves me even more. Thanks from abroad (Belgium).
i am from southern Ohio ( Chillicothe) and i was in my 30s at that time and had been in the army and this was a very sad time for our state, none of those kids deserved what happened for standing up for their rights.💚
Made me think of what people say about the military - fighting for Americans' right to free speech and other freedoms. Those protesters were doing the same that day.
@@bonniea8189 agree
... Students in Ohio two hundred yards away
Shot down by a nameless fire one early day in May
Some people cried out angry "You should have shot more of them down!"
But you can’t bury youth my friend... youth grows the whole world round
It could have been me, but instead it was you
So I’ll keep doing the work you were doing as if I were two
I’ll be a student of life, a singer of songs
A farmer of food and a righter of wrong
It could have been me, but instead it was you
And it may be me, dear sisters and brothers, before we are through
But if you can die for freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom
If you can die for freedom I can too...
Holly Near, It Could Have Been Me
The shootings in Ohio changed the whole discussion about the war in Viet Nam. Before this it was kids saying that they didn't understand why they had do go to Asia to fight communism and their parents (WW II vets) saying we had to defend our country. Then the the people in power started shooting students, the children of those supporting the war. Suddenly it didn't seem like such a good idea to the parents who supported the war. They might support fighting communism, but they didn't want their kids to die. After Ohio, support for the Viet Nam war plumeted. Personally, it changed the trajectory of my life.
I understand your reply but nobody started "shooting students" arbitrarily. Oh trust me, those kids were in the wrong place at the wrong time and it was bloodshed, but it wasn't just random acts of violence. There were many there, and it became out of control and very threatening, and it happened. But it changed everything. Society suddenly became very quiet and very nervous and suspicious. Woodstock was like the last beautiful peaceful fun place. I didn't go but I was part of that society and I have seen what happens. Then it was all about giving good people a voice. Now it's all about briefcases, suits, ties, and ulcers. Then you respected people that were colorful and interesting. Now people are basically led by the government or religion. That's a tight corner, and pre-Kent State, our America was such a different place. it changed everything. The 60's were a glorious time to be a kid.
Kent State was the official end of the '60s, in many ways.
I was a US History teacher and this was one of the songs that I used when teaching the unit on the Vietnam era in my class. It always left an impression on my students.
Kent State, Wounded Knee, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Mankato etc, etc.
These are just the beginning. That day is coming. All Americans will have to fear our own military. So Sad.
You need to see the images. 4 killed 10 injured. I was ten when it happened. I still remember it. The words still crush my heart even now. Tears in the eyes.
This moment was the biggest factor in forming my worldview.......that the United States would do the exact same thing to it's citizens as Russia or China would do to theirs.....and would barely even acknowledge the incident...much less apologize for it.....
I have not had an ounce of respect for the USA or it's government ever since......
Ol Neil is a soul brother for sure
WHY? That is what the protests were about, Why were our young men drafted to be in a war in Vietnan that most people couldn't find on a globe. The general populace didn't feel we should have been in that war. Protests were happening everywhere and anywhere people felt wronged at this time in history.
The generational changes that were taking place during this time of Civil unrest.
I was in school in Ohio, 15 miles from the Kent Campus when there was an announcement made that the Governor has ordered out the National Guard to Kent and that there has been shooting. How terrifying this was to us all.
To understand this time in History you would of had to experienced it. I can remember MLK was making those changes happen. The rapid advancement in society was happening everyday. With all the Talk, of Make Love Not War, Peace, Love thy Brother and Sister. Freedom to do, freedom to speak and express were all something new to the Nation and the world was changing.
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A Mrak LBJ started Vietnam quagmire even though JFK might have first let troops in.
Wellch we took over from the French. LBJ was about to pull the troops out when he lost to Nixon.
I never could understand where all the people went when W. was getting us into Iraq. There should have been mass protests then. We can support our troops without supporting an illegal war.
@@TheSjuris Nixon was no saint, he did go into Laos and bombed Cambodia, but don't re-write history. First of all LBJ did not run for president in 1968, largely because of the increasing protests to his Vietnam disaster. LBJ expanded the war, period, full stop. Whoever won the 1968 election, Nixon or Humphrey, was about to inherit a quagmire. There was no easy solution politically or militarily. It did take Nixon close to 4 years to get most of our troops out, during that time the remaining troops were getting fucked along with those loyal to the South Vietnam government. But end the war Nixon did, he also fulfilled his campaign promise when the draft was ended in 1973.
Caz Gerald LBzJ was about to pull the soldiers out completely before he left. Nixon stopped that from happening. Nixon authorized the draft. Nixon sent more troops. Nixon was the second biggest crook ever elected president, the worst one and the worst president ever is currently in office.
We're very proud to call Neil 1 of our hometown heros.
He's a Northener, from where I live in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada, just north of Fargo ND...
This incident turned me from being a subscriber of the belief in non violent protest to a different viewpoint.Without divulging that......I will share this.....When the news of this broke......Nixon did something very smart.....he advised (very strongly) all law enforcement across the nation to stand down and lower their profile for the next few days until things cooled down.This country was within inches of widespread .....to put it mildly......civil disobedience.A snapshot of the feeling across the country occurred in the suburb where I lived.That evening a regular scheduled event in a park that may have drawn at most 100-200 was supplanted by people speaking their outrage on the stage to a spontaneous gathering of well over 1500.A police car appeared with 2 cops.....one told us to disperse .....as luckily for him a second patrol car appeared......just as the sky filled with hurled bottles rocks and a baseball bat with nails driven through it pelted him and the newly arrived car which quickly left the scene with all the cops in it.The first car was left behind as its windows were quickly cracked then smashed in and finally succumbing to being overturned and set ablaze.I will always be of the opinion that the soldiers that fired at the students should have been tried and convicted for manslaughter and the commanding officer for murder and be given the death penalty.Of coarse they got off scott free.Thing is people are mostly cowed and fearful of the government and their enforcers.....but in reality theres far more of us than them.It just takes a bit of courage and integrity to stand up against injustice and oppression.The way things are going in this country today....we might need those qualities again.Let's see if this so called democracy that purportedly stands for justice and human rights last 10-20 years.Personally.....I doubt it.
Not happening. Divide and Conquer. Look at the divisions that keep people afraid and defensive of each other -- a perfect plan. Abortion, Dems/Rep ..racism, poor education. "No political agenda will ever allow people to be reasonable because they know a public that is healthy, educated, and optimistic is harder to govern."
As I recall the Governor of Ohio flipped out over the Student Strike at Ohio State University and called out the National Guard. Over the course of a few days things got heated and the commander of the Guard unit ordered his unit to fire. This happened during a break between classes and several students who were not involved with the protest were walking across campus from one class to another. At least one of those students was shot dead.
I love this song and always have. Thank you for your heartfelt reaction. :)
James Rhodes, the governor of Ohio at the time, was running for the US Senate in a primary that was a few days after this. Wanting to be the "Law and Order " candidate, he ordered the National Guard on to the Kent State campus to deal with the "Outside Agitators " that were protesting the war. Since the protesters were considered to be Communists, they used live ammunition. Believe it or not, a large part of the American people agreed with that decision. He was an A**hole.
Thank you for doing this one, India. Here is the wikipedia article about what happened at Kent State University on May 4, 1970. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
Thank you so much for your service.
I was 22 at the time, staring down getting drafted to go to the corporate war machine in Vietnam.
We all were already outraged with this whole war, the entire world was too.
And then this happened.
You can never compare this era with the nonsense going on with trump, our protests overwhelmed the universities, and shut them all down, all at once.
Calling the National Guard out to react to the OSU protest, was never going to be a good idea, with part time soldiers with no training in crowd control, one guy who might have been scared, set it off and pulled the trigger. He was like a trump supporter nowadays, irrationally brainwashed and ignorant.
So, thank you so much for your critique (also Southern Man), you are amazing!
You should probably do a different video. This is just Niel Young without crosby still or Nash. The other version is much better. I'd also like to see you react to Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young , Carrie On or Almost Cut My Hair from the Deja vu album ,you won't be disappointed.
I was nine years old when this happened. Kent State University’s the college at my father went to. It’s amazing how the music from my childhood is relevant to what’s going on around the world these days. I wish people would just learn to find peace.
More about the back story to this song. Neil Young was so enraged by the shooting which occurred on a Saturday, he wrote this song the next day and the band went into the studio on Monday and recorded it. The song was released on Friday of that week. They released the song knowing they would be killing their current #1 Billboard hit. That's right. They knowingly pushed their own song out of the top spot because they felt so strongly about the event. I agree with "Hen of the Woods." The studio release is more powerful.
The shooting was on a Monday.
@@Treebard You're right. I stand corrected.
This is Neil Ypung at Massey Hall. A great concert and he never sounded better in my opinion. This song needs to be the studio version with David Crosby asking how many more.
The Rock version by CSN&Y is also great
Neil spoke for the people, and always has
Don't talk while Neil Young is playing.
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Thank you so much you took way back again Senegal west Africa.I grow up listening to American Folk Classic Rock R&B Jazz. I used to listen to Neil Young didn’t understand much about what he was talking about but there was something about his voice and the way he play Guitar-Acoustic or Electric- that touched me deep down. And that I understand what he’s talking about and what’s behind the lyrics I enjoy much better.Please check out Bob Dylan “Hurricane” John Cougar “Scare Crow,Paper on Fire , Authorities Song,... “Jerry Garcia “ Throwing Stones “
They are beautiful People & Freedom Fighters.Keep it up and like the john cougar the small town man said “ You gotta Stand for something or you gonna fall for any thing.
Listen to the studio version. This version is great, but the studio version is better
So proud of the students! All power to the people ✊
Compounding the tragedy, the memorial to the dead where they fell was *moved* a few years back by Kent State University officials to make room for... a parking lot.
Dannan Tavona - there is no new parking lot. The area where the four students were killed was always a parking lot, in front of Taylor Hall. It hasn’t changed, with the exception of the spots in the lot where three of the four students were killed, and these spaces are now blocked off and surrounded by 4 decorative lighted poles for each space, serving as memorials to each of the four who were killed when the national guard fired down from The Pagoda next to Taylor Hall, covering Blanket Hill and the parking lot with a rain of bullets. Several students were on the hill between the guard and the parking lot, and were also shot and wounded. The fourth student killed was in the grass just a few feet off the parking lot, and the nearest space to that location is also blocked off. The areas where the other nine were wounded includes Blanket Hill and the surrounding grassy areas.
For the most part, the area looks unchanged from how it appeared in 1970.
The newest memorial is on the back side of Taylor Hall, overlooking the hill that leads down to the grassy commons area below where The Victory Bell still stands. Nothing had to be moved.
Live in TX now but will always be a Buckeye, my Daddy is still up there. I was a Junior in high school when Kent State happened. My stepdad (ex cop) wanted to throw me out on the street for voicing my utter disgust at the way the governor and the national guard handled the protesters, then tried to cover it up, like so many other injustices of the time. The events of the 60's starting with THE assassination, then Vietnam, then the struggle for equal rights, then more assassinations, right into the 70's were massively traumatic. When you talk to those of us that grew up in that era, you will soon realize the reasons why we are skeptical, cynical, of anything the powers that be do or say. It's not old age, it is bitter experience.
You should check out Paradise by John Prine.
Brandon Crusen that’s a great song.
I appreciate the sensitivity of your reactions. Try Neil Young's Needle and the Damage Done and A Man Needs a Maid...powerful classics
Great song but you need electric version
I was in high school. The whole country was protesting the Vietnam war. These 4 were made an example of. It was a nation wide tragedy. We who were there were devastated and even more determined to stop the war. Civil rights movement was parallel to this. Very crucial time. 😔🙏💔💔💔
Such a tragic event"the Kent State massacre". I had a teacher in highschool that was there and lost a good friend to the gunfire. Excellent song I do however prefer the original studio version ☮️
O wow this guy is beautiful & i love the raw honest lyrics ♥️ kool song!
I remember when this happened, the iconic picture of the female student crying over a dead student was everywhere. It's interesting that, I personally, have never heard this event used to promote gun control... because it was technically the Government by proxy that committed this? More of a representation of what the 2nd Amendment really means, as in the defense of the People against a corrupt Government?
It's also sad that this song, and the other songs of protest from the 60's and70's are forgotten. Music has always been a reflection of the issues of a society by defining the true mood of the people.... So I ask, 'Where are all the protest songs of today?'
Here we are in a time of hyper- conflict, a time when there should be a preponderant of 'Anti' songs but there aren't any to reflect the mood set before us. Sure there are 'Cop Killer' songs but the perspective is mostly from a 'gangsta' point of view, and used more as an image booster to show the singer is a bad-ass, not as a societal reflection of protest.
Just sayin'
I love this song so much. Thanks for this video.
yo! you need to react to the original w/ all the band numbers, much better!
it got BLOCKED lmao youtube CAN BE BLAH
DAMN!
@@OhMyGoshIndia Bummer!
@@OhMyGoshIndia , Well at least you did get to listen to that version, the "how many more" part of the song was done with such emotion.
I wouldn't say better, just different. With the band, it is more of an angry song, while this expresses sadness.
THX FOR SHOWING THIS 💔💔💔
IM AN OLD HIPPY, STILL GOING STRONG AS A PEACE ACTIVIST.
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Shoulda done the studio version, it rocks so much harder than this.
From Canada this was a shock, Niel said it and it spurned a huge movement and comment from The Beat Generation
Those 4 killed, would likely be 68-72 years old, have grown children and working on getting or having grandkids.
What if one of those children or grandkids could have developed a cure or cancer or heart disease?
Thanks government...not.
Fantastic performance by Neil Young. Try the electric live by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. Even morr intense!
Vietnam.
One can see how deeply anguished Neil is singing this song. I was young but I remember.
Gotta react to you dropped the bomb on me by the gap band
This song always makes me cry.
India, I always love your smart and insightful reactions. Please keep them coming as history sadly repeats itself.
Love you India ....thx for your empathy. ❤ from Canada
I was a kid when this song came out....I grew up to become a real college professor.... beyond tears what it woulda been like losing a student like this.... #lovemystudents
This is a Neil Young version and you should also check out the studio original by CSN&Y. Kind of like Woodstock and Gimme Shelter, this song is one of those that cut to the bone about what was goin' on back then in those days. The Kent State shootings were a very sad chapter in a part of our history that was full of sad chapters. Four folks that should still be around today. Neil Young's voice is sad and haunting in this one.
Four dead, nine wounded, hundreds escaped and millions were shocked and frightened.