A very important background that foreigners might miss is that "the building" is not just talking about a whole world to a man, but also a huge solid structure of the country. Yes only as a Chinese can you intuitively feel this. The "medicine factory" is a symbolization that actually represents all the state-owned businesses, which once fed so many people and even became a faith saying "the business would live steadily forever" / "our country would live steadily and hopefully forever". But in the 90s' society, some changes happened, and many many of these state-owned businesses were forced to change their strategy. They had to tighten their expense, they had to cut down low-profit manufacturers. A lot of people lost their jobs, and even worse, their faith was smashed. And when all these shocks and muddles flood into mind, "ten thousand horses" run. This is somehow similar to Detroit's sufferings in the economic crisis starting in 2009, but even sadder, it described the sorrow of those bound to the fate of the whole nation, "collapse" together with the mother country. ----- 有个很容易被外国人忽略（误解）的背景是 「将倾」的 「大厦」 不仅只主人公的世界，还指代了整个国家原有的、固有的结构。是的只有中国人才会直觉性地迅速理解这一点。「药厂」其实是一种象征，它代表的是所有曾经辉煌的那些国营企业。它们曾经养活了亿万的工人，甚至教给人们一种信念：「国企是稳如泰山万年不倒的」，乃至「我们的国家也将稳如泰山千秋万世」。 但 90 年代的一些社会变动迫使许许多多这些国营企业转型，削减开支、取消非营利性（通常是过去的战略性）业务，许多人因此失业。然而失业仅仅是表象，更深厚的影响是那种对国企（国家）前途坚定憧憬的向往和信念被彻底粉碎了。 当所有这些如同乱麻的思绪涌入脑海，我们就听到了歌词里写的「一万匹马奔跑」起来。其实这场变故有点像底特律在 2009 经济危机中的遭遇，但更悲剧，它描绘的是所有那些把自身命运与国家命运绑在一起的人，一起「collapse」的可悲图景。
I cry when I listen to this song everytime. "The builiding" is not just bricks, but also everything we believed is solid and unchangeable. He lost his job, his marriage, his life, and his faith. That is the deep meaning of "until the building collapsed". There's no way to really defend his life because things change no matter what. This is the dilemma of that era. Same stories repeat. Sorry for ourselves.
Although I'm in Taiwan and haven't experienced these times, the emotions in this song are just so overwhelming. As I listened, my eyes moistened in silence.
What an incredible song! In the UK we have a few songs from the 80s that reflect on the shortcomings of social and cultural problems, or war and conflict. But I dont think any are as powerful as this one. A great review and a great choice of song. 💯
The song talk about the economic reforms of the 1990s, which led to the closure of numerous state-owned factories (the "building"). Before these reforms, employees of state-owned enterprises enjoyed a very stable life and work environment. If the song's title were 'Kill the Rust Belt Man' or 'Kill the Detroiter,' you would grasp the sentiment.
I just discovered your channel today and spent hours watching your old videos. I really love the quality of your production and your sense of music, especially since it's not in your native language, yet you can perfectly capture the emotion of these songs. I’d like to recommend listening to 伍佰 (Woo-Bai), he represents 90s Taiwanese rock n roll. My favorite songs are 白鴿(White Dove) and 愛情的盡頭(The end of love). Hope you enjoy it.
Just found out about this video. So glad to see someone doing this to promote good music from China. I've been to one of OYS shows in 2009. The moment I realized that Er Qian, the lead guitar was playing SRV for soundcheck, I knew they had something. Back then they are not that famous yet (it was before they released their first album), and they are known for adding unique improvisation for the same song on different venues. The duo of guitar and bass sometimes reminds me of Lennon and McCartney, one writes deep and powerful lyrics, one writes beautiful melody. They are still evolving and I have good hope that they will keep releasing better and better stuff in the future. Again, so glad to see someone doing reviews on music from China. Please keep doing this!
@@alexw7189There is a musical instrument called erhu in China. Its sound gives people a sad feeling, which is very similar to the feeling conveyed by the harmonica sound at the beginning.
Really like your comment. I know Chinese but your comments make me feel that you know the emotions and the intentions of the song maker better. And the truth that you play so much instuments also amaze me.🥳
I'm not sure if this English lyrics is an official translation, I observed a translation that is not very accurate: to buy an illegal gun, the original Chinese lyrics says not illegal gun but fake gun. Personally, I think that this translation is very important for the character's personality and background depicted in the lyrics, even if he want to defend his family, he can only spend a small amount of money to buy a fake gun and pretend to be able to defend his family.
🙋🏼 Born in Shijiazhuang in the 90s, thank you Joe for the amazing analysis ✨ you make me got to understand the song‘s structure a lot more clear, and rised up a bit confidence of my hometown creation, its been said a lot there's no culture in my hometown 🥲 kill me, this is awesome
My mother is from Shijiazhuang. Back in the 80s, the state-owned medicine industry was the pillar of that city. People had grown accustomed to a tedious but stable life. Suddenly, the former prime minister announced a significant revolution in the entire system, signaling the shutdown of those pillar industries. This led to massive job losses for workers, a surge in suicides, and incidents of robbery and even bombings.
I think there is a word for this song that can make it easier for foreigners to understand its meaning：“Farce”.The fate of many people in the previous generation was forced to change with the reform, but they had no choice but to suppress their inner thoughts.So there was this form of music, which broke out in the seemingly absurd picture and depressed accompaniment.Lin Yutang said a word in My Country and My People："Life is a huge farce,and we human beings are mere puppets in it.The man who takes life too seriously,who obeys library reading-room rules too honestly,who actually keeps off the lawn because merely a signboard says so,always make a fool of himself and is usually subjected to laughter from his older colleagues, and since laughter is contagious,very soon he becomes a humorist,too."This is the "gray humor"that belongs to China people alone.
This is the best review so far. Very high quality understanding, in term of story, the music and your own reaction. You got my subscribe. Looking forward to your future contents.
Thanks for Joe Creator's music commentary. The background of the song is in northern China in the 1990s, when 12 million state-owned employees suddenly lost their jobs due to economic reforms, leaving people in confusion and despair, fortunately both they and China have survived a bloodless social revolution.
I would like to call this song "Soros's Sin". During the Asian financial crisis triggered by American speculators, China was also affected, with many state-owned factories closing down, the previously secure livelihoods disappearing, and many social problems arising
@@jrwkd6114 China was also affected by Soros but the main thing here is changing the system of the country , so you have to unemployee a lot of workers in a communist country and most of the people just believed that it will never change . But you have to because the CCCP proved it .
Hey, brother. I’m glad you liked the song. This band is currently one of the most legendary rock bands in China. I want to recommend the live version of this song from 2023 in Shanghai. The lyrics didn’t pass political review at that time, so it couldn’t be performed live, leading to a symphonic version, which is truly amazing. Without the language barrier of the lyrics, I believe you’ll enjoy the song even more. Hope you like it. Wishing you all the best in life.
This song reflects the painful memories of countless workers losing their jobs during the economic reform period of the 1990s in China. On one hand, there was a sudden and sometimes complete loss of income; on the other hand, there was the psychological shock of those who were once considered the "Ruling class of the nation" now being reduced to unemployed individuals. The background video you chose is from the movie 钢的琴 ("The Steel piano)" which is also a masterpiece depicting the same historical period. In the drama, the male protagonist is also an unemployed worker struggling to gain custody of his child after divorcing his wife, who remarried to a wealthy man. Unable to afford a piano,as a unemployed steel worker, he crafts a piano made of steel for his child, as the literal translation of 钢的琴 in Chinese means "a musical instrument（piano） made of steel."
The title of the Chinese song translates into English as "Kill that Shijiazhuang man." Shijiazhuang is the capital of Hebei Province, and it is interesting that the three words "Shi Jia Zhuang" translate into English as "rock home town". I am from Shijiazhuang, welcome to my hometown,but please don't kill me.😂
This is the best song I’ve heard in the past 10 years. The emotion and tension in this song is absolutely incredible. So excited to see the coming back of real music
They were formed in early 2000 and have only released two albums so far. They have honed each album with great care over ten years. Currently, they are one of the top three bands in China. The lead singer once suffered from severe depression; I think someone without such issues wouldn't be able to create such masterpieces.
Joe great great review, This band is THE BAND of China, they also have a live performance version in Shanghai where they take out the vocal replaced with piano, it was bootlegged and circulated on Bilibili. Might be awesome if a follow up video is needed after this one. Their 2nd album is even more complicated, not just on lyrics but the arrangement of the instruments as well as the song writings.
“live in the experience until the building collapse”. I am the witness of that age. When people think their life will always stay the same as the past 30 years, the change burst into their reality, making them totally lost. That is why the tune was designed to be repeatative in the begining and snaps suddenly.
by the way, you may have known this, the song refers to a period of time that China opened up and embraced a great impact on its social structure where state own companies were not only a job source but also the basic social unit. people stay in those companies for a whole life and their wellfare comes from them. You can imagine their panic feeling when the companies were sold or bankrupted.
As a child of the grow-ups and witness of the ‘building collapsing’ era, I’ve listened to the song like over 1000 times and over 10 years. But everytime I listened to it, tears always come out of my eyes. It’s the greatest master piece of Chinese rock’n roll, that’s the comment from me, a rock’n roll fan for more than 30 years, which took the place of ‘dream back to Tang Dynasty’.
Was just checking out the HongKong Clokenflap lineup, 1-3 December. 萬能青年旅社 and 草東 from Taiwan are also there!! And then here you are Joe!! Feels so close! Come to Macau someday and I will show you around to practice your Mandarin😂 you improved so much, impressive!
To me 《杀死那个石家庄人》 is the most epic Chinese rock, comparably great as Группа крови (Blood Type) of Кино -- the legendary Soviet rock band. These two songs both poetically give you an extreme melancholic mood! I can sing both. These are great songs that you can never get bored of.
I would like to call this song "Soros's Sin". During the Asian financial crisis triggered by American speculators, China was also affected, with many state-owned factories closing down, the previously secure livelihoods disappearing, and many social problems arising
I'm quite shocked that music can convey so many things to someone totally from another background(as a Chinese). and you got all the key points and emotion expressions correct!! how amazing this music is!
Thank you for the commentary, although i have listened to this song many times and liked it very much, but under your explanation , I understand it more deeply. By the way ,I am from China.
This music 杀死那个石家庄人, literally translated as Kill that Man in Shijiazhuang, presents a story about the breakdown of the communist economy during the 1990s, and those who used to believe in Utopia were left behind, sacrificed, and withering in poverty. This transformation is as vivid in my memory as it is in the minds of all Chinese people born in the 1970s.
It's China's Rust Belt, just like rust belt in USA, these are two group of people(on the two side of pacific ocean!) that been left over by globalization.
As you say their band member has: Dong Yaqian (lead vocal/guitar/mandolin) Ji Geng (bass) Shi Li (trumpet/flute/euphonium) Su Lei (Guitar/Mandolin) Feng Jiang (drums) Li Zenghui (Alto Saxophone) Zhao Lu (tenor saxophone) Feng Yuliang (tenor saxophone) Miao Zheng (baritone saxophone) Liu Yibin (viola/mandolin) Liu Kuo (violin) Zheng Haorong (piano)
I'm glad you're listening to this song and this band. We have a saying called "The Omnipotent Youth of a Generation," which means that the band has influenced an entire generation of Chinese rock youth from the 80s to the 90s.
I am in awe of how articulate you are in describing a work of art and how spot on your analysis is. Love every minute of your reaction and commentary. I would also like to watch your reaction on 宋冬野's song called 郭源潮 or any of his songs. Keep up the good work! Thank you.
it's quite surprising to see you explain this song for a whole video; as a Shijiazhuang local, I can explain a little bit from our point of view. When I was a kid, my parents, same as everyone, worked in factories. My mom was in Huabei Zhiyao, which was the largest pharmaceutical factory for penicillin production in Asia. Factories like this under the socialist background provides very good living condition. The factory, as an enterprise, builds apartments for workers, shuttle buses for transportation, they have their own kindergartens and schools, and even hospitals. so everyone was living a peaceful and happy live. and the building collapsed, representing the reform and opening wave in China. some people left to make more money for their own, and things started to change; the factories gradually broke because they could not maintain their market under the new situation, and people had no choice but to leave the jobs that they worked for their lives. it was basically a scenario for the whole northeast land in china. we can hear the instrument crying here. but there's no choice for these ppl, u can only embrace the destiny.
There are some issues with the English subtitles of this song lyric; the translation is not accurate, for example,its should be 'using a counterfeit bill to buy a fake gun.‘ instead a illegal gun
the collapse of building, in Chinese historical idiom implies the collapse of the empire. etc. in Taohuashan, "To see them building the high-towel, to see them banqueting,to see their building collapsed..."
The band is consist of a vocal, guitar, drum, and trumpet. You're right. They kicks the start of trumpet in a band and it becomes part of the rock tradition. Also, the sound of the harmonica might be a traditional mongolian instrument 马头琴 instead of a harmonica.
A very important background that foreigners might miss is that "the building" is not just talking about a whole world to a man, but also a huge solid structure of the country. Yes only as a Chinese can you intuitively feel this. The "medicine factory" is a symbolization that actually represents all the state-owned businesses, which once fed so many people and even became a faith saying "the business would live steadily forever" / "our country would live steadily and hopefully forever". But in the 90s' society, some changes happened, and many many of these state-owned businesses were forced to change their strategy. They had to tighten their expense, they had to cut down low-profit manufacturers. A lot of people lost their jobs, and even worse, their faith was smashed. And when all these shocks and muddles flood into mind, "ten thousand horses" run. This is somehow similar to Detroit's sufferings in the economic crisis starting in 2009, but even sadder, it described the sorrow of those bound to the fate of the whole nation, "collapse" together with the mother country.
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有个很容易被外国人忽略（误解）的背景是 「将倾」的 「大厦」 不仅只主人公的世界，还指代了整个国家原有的、固有的结构。是的只有中国人才会直觉性地迅速理解这一点。「药厂」其实是一种象征，它代表的是所有曾经辉煌的那些国营企业。它们曾经养活了亿万的工人，甚至教给人们一种信念：「国企是稳如泰山万年不倒的」，乃至「我们的国家也将稳如泰山千秋万世」。 但 90 年代的一些社会变动迫使许许多多这些国营企业转型，削减开支、取消非营利性（通常是过去的战略性）业务，许多人因此失业。然而失业仅仅是表象，更深厚的影响是那种对国企（国家）前途坚定憧憬的向往和信念被彻底粉碎了。 当所有这些如同乱麻的思绪涌入脑海，我们就听到了歌词里写的「一万匹马奔跑」起来。其实这场变故有点像底特律在 2009 经济危机中的遭遇，但更悲剧，它描绘的是所有那些把自身命运与国家命运绑在一起的人，一起「collapse」的可悲图景。
怀念那一段阳光灿烂的日子
Thank you so much for this explanation ❤
谢谢您的解释 ❤
是的90年代末失业下岗潮，为什么在国内会被禁，因为现在又要经历一次了，90年代国企受到的冲击最大，这一次是全面性的调整、代表高科技的程序员失业了，公务员工资发不出来，私营部门和私营企业濒临倒闭或债台高筑。不由得人思绪混乱，焦虑不安，但还是要坚强地去面对‘生活’对我们的‘背叛’。
@@曰-d7k 扯什么淡呢
@@曰-d7k “为什么在国内会被禁”什么玩意被禁了？是下岗潮被禁了还是歌曲被禁了？
你这基本论据都是假的，后面的结论还能真？
I have saw this band perform few years ago in Taiwan, I still cannot forget trumpet solo, I want to experience it live again!
Welcome to China.🎉😊
I cry when I listen to this song everytime. "The builiding" is not just bricks, but also everything we believed is solid and unchangeable. He lost his job, his marriage, his life, and his faith. That is the deep meaning of "until the building collapsed". There's no way to really defend his life because things change no matter what. This is the dilemma of that era. Same stories repeat. Sorry for ourselves.
The more times you listen the sadder it gets I think! 😮
@@JoeCreator Exactly
我是石家庄人
@@JoeCreator 你跟他好像 一樣都是音樂人 ua-cam.com/video/eA-kf_4D2Ro/v-deo.htmlsi=ZzvbawZytmSzPcQN
很多年前就喜欢这首歌，给身边石家庄的朋友分享这首歌的时候，他们都是被歌名震撼到；
一个在台湾念大学的网友分享过的经历，他们老师在课堂上给所有同学分享过这首歌，并评价说这首歌代表着当今中国大陆地区摇滚音乐的最高水平。😂
这个乐队还有一首以城市命名的歌曲，秦皇岛。可以找来听听，体验下当小号响起时，那种头皮发麻的感觉。
这首歌实际上描述了北方重工业城市在经历过了时代变迁，从计划经济到市场经济的的变轨所经历的阵痛，和那些被遗忘或者是被抛弃的群体的失落和愤怒的感受。万能青年旅店创作并于2010年演唱的歌曲，收录在专辑《万能青年旅店》中。歌手是几个生活在石家庄的闲散人士。
创作背景：
他们长年吸工业废气，撒泼抒情，蒙受盲瓜(The Blind Melon)等90年代美国非主流摇滚乐队感召，90年代组队，02年更名。
2010年11月12日，乐队发行首张同名专辑《万能青年旅店》，最后一首歌就是《杀死那个石家庄人》。
资源丰富和经济繁荣的城市已经不再荣光，而沿海的贸易投机者们取代了踏实的劳动者成为了时代的新宠儿，80年代出生的人亲身经历了这种从繁荣转向衰弱的历程，他们所接受的教育是单纯的理想和浪漫主义，而满眼所见的都是金钱至上和欲望崇拜。
生于理想，死于欲望，是这一代人最良好的写照。
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只是听你的陈述就已经感受到巨大的悲哀，曾经见过阳光，却再也无法企及。
第一个comment里说这首歌被禁，我怎么从没听说这首歌被禁了？
然而，我觉得千禧才是最好的，无论是千禧之前还是千禧之后。
汉族在古代曾经长期站在地球人类的顶峰，进而形成了大汉族主义，蔑视天下。然后近代中国衰弱，人民受尽苦难，我们从苦难中感受力量，从废墟中出发，而这是第六次浴火重生。
真tmd悲观，难道你要在那种为了发展可以牺牲一切环保的时代，拿着固定工资国有企业混吃等死.每个国家刚开始工业发展都是以牺牲环保开始的，国家发展到一定程度就会转型，懂不…就像下一次工业革命，就是机器人时代，到时候还是会一堆人跟你口中的抱怨一样.
Although I'm in Taiwan and haven't experienced these times, the emotions in this song are just so overwhelming. As I listened, my eyes moistened in silence.
谢谢
每个河北人的痛，
生活在经验里×
生活在井眼里✓
@@sufeng128 东北也是一样，成批成批的下岗
社会变革时，总有一些人赶不上脚步，落下。 就像，工业革命开始时，手工业工人就会大批大批下岗。 现在人工智能大量出现， 也会有一批人落下， 你只有不断学习，抓住每次变革，你才能不会被历史抛弃。 这就是社会发展规律，社会在发生巨大发展变革， 你不进步，你就坠落，你能不能像西方民众那样抵制人工智能，抵制也只是延缓走进失败的步伐，因为别的国家不会等你。若是你的工厂成本比别人高，你们不采用人工智能，你们工厂早晚也会倒闭，你依旧会下岗；相反，工厂积极变革，虽然裁掉部分员工，但是工厂利润增加了，剩下的员工得到更多。 社会发展就是这么残酷，不进则退，优胜劣汰。
我老公是石家庄人，20 年前跟董亚千打过篮球。这首歌我第一次听就收藏在播放列表里，对那个年代成长起来的人来说，它表达的情绪和感受就隐藏在深刻又遥远的记忆里。但我很少翻出来听，可能我没有摇滚魂吧。感谢 Joe 制作这集影片❤
不是那个年代过来的人真的很难理解这首歌要宣泄的感情。这个被杀死的石家庄人后来炸了工厂的家属楼。这无关摇滚.
@@饼干-k9d 如果你说的是 01 年石家庄爆炸案，那跟这首歌要表达的内容没什么关系。那个凶手 80 年代时候是石家庄棉纺厂的工人，只工作了几年就因为强奸入狱了，如果没记错的话，那是 80 年代，距国企改革还很远。出狱后已经是 90 年代了，因为入狱时老婆改嫁，母亲病故，父亲续弦等一系列原因，为了报复社会，才有了后来发生的惨案
@@饼干-k9d 不知道什么原因，刚才发的被 yt 删了。再发一次试试。如果你说的是 01 年石家庄，那跟这首歌要表达的内容关系不大。案子的凶手在 80 年代是棉纺厂的工人，仅仅工作了几年，就因为 qj 入狱了，那时候离国企改革还很远。他在入狱的期间，老婆改嫁，出狱后是 90 年代。经历了母亲病逝，父亲续弦等等事情，他认为这些不如意的事情起因都是因为坐牢期间老婆改嫁，所以决定报复社会，才制造的惨案
@user-xo6ub8hp3v 不知道什么原因，刚才发的被 yt 删了。再发一次试试。如果你说的是 01 年靳入超的案子，那跟这首歌要表达的内容关系不大。案子的凶手在 80 年代是棉纺厂的工人，仅仅工作了几年，就因为 q j 入狱了，那时候离国企改革还很远。他在入狱的期间，老婆改嫁，出狱后是 90 年代。经历了母亲病逝，父亲续弦等等事情，他认为这些不如意的事情起因都是因为坐牢期间老婆改嫁，所以决定报复社会，才发生的惨案。他炸的几栋楼有其父母单位的职工宿舍，前妻父母的职工宿舍，加上他曾经的国企工人身份，案件又发生在国企改革时期，所以很多对案情不了解的人都认为这起案件和政策形式有关，把靳入超先想象成了时代的受害者，才会产生悲剧。其实他只是一个精神偏执的暴力犯而已。
@@xilu1188 这是真的，那个年代有不少工人下岗的悲惨故事，但靳如超绝对不是，他只是个残暴的罪犯，当年炸死了100多个人...
这是我见过的最好的解读！不仅理解得透彻，而且还讲得清楚！太厉害了
到底想表达什么得问万青，joe的乐器确实弹得不错
@@wudilong在情感表达上解读地确实没问题，不过毕竟是外国人，对中国历史文化理解不深，导致这首歌还有许多精彩的地方没被解析
真的很佩服Joe对音乐的理解，虽然不共用一种语言，也没有经历过歌曲里所表现的生活，却一下子就捕捉到了核心，就是Joe这句『我生活了那么久，不应该是这样』，相信这种情绪很多中国人都有，为什么我们勤劳努力却仍旧活得那么辛苦，为什么。
因为这个社会，这个世界癫了
因为有些人嘴上说一套，背地里做一套，窃取了你的劳动成果
敌人抢劫了我们的劳动成果
♥Thanks! I'm so attached to their 1st album♥
Thank you too!!! Yes these guys are definitely awesome!!! 😊😊
What an incredible song!
In the UK we have a few songs from the 80s that reflect on the shortcomings of social and cultural problems, or war and conflict. But I dont think any are as powerful as this one.
A great review and a great choice of song. 💯
❤
Have you heard Noah Kahan and Sam Fender's Homesick? It just remind me my hometown so much.
因为它讲述的是最庞大的普通人群体
This song is about the large-scale unemployment wave that occurred in China in the 1990s。
The song talk about the economic reforms of the 1990s, which led to the closure of numerous state-owned factories (the "building"). Before these reforms, employees of state-owned enterprises enjoyed a very stable life and work environment. If the song's title were 'Kill the Rust Belt Man' or 'Kill the Detroiter,' you would grasp the sentiment.
每次看joe的视频 就像上了一节音乐课一样，受益匪浅，谢谢！
你不如自己多听点歌吧。。。
谢谢关心，听的挺多的不同风格！我喜欢他从不同角度来解析中文歌曲，从旋律编曲配器和声，让我也能从中受益。
I just discovered your channel today and spent hours watching your old videos. I really love the quality of your production and your sense of music, especially since it's not in your native language, yet you can perfectly capture the emotion of these songs.
I’d like to recommend listening to 伍佰 (Woo-Bai), he represents 90s Taiwanese rock n roll. My favorite songs are 白鴿(White Dove) and 愛情的盡頭(The end of love).
Hope you enjoy it.
Just found out about this video. So glad to see someone doing this to promote good music from China. I've been to one of OYS shows in 2009. The moment I realized that Er Qian, the lead guitar was playing SRV for soundcheck, I knew they had something. Back then they are not that famous yet (it was before they released their first album), and they are known for adding unique improvisation for the same song on different venues. The duo of guitar and bass sometimes reminds me of Lennon and McCartney, one writes deep and powerful lyrics, one writes beautiful melody. They are still evolving and I have good hope that they will keep releasing better and better stuff in the future. Again, so glad to see someone doing reviews on music from China. Please keep doing this!
The sound of the harmonica at the beginning is particularly like the sound of a man crying, which is particularly touching and heartbreaking!
I guess it represents the peaceful life before the collapse. So it doesn’t return as the music moves on
@@alexw7189There is a musical instrument called erhu in China. Its sound gives people a sad feeling, which is very similar to the feeling conveyed by the harmonica sound at the beginning.
So talented and so open-minded, you are such a gifted person :)
“Something will never return.” You got it, Joe. Thanks! But on the other side, we are always moving forward, including the 万青❤
You can actually sing along with English subtitles and feel powerful emotions! This is awesome! We would appreciate an English adaptation of this one!
Thank you Joe. We’re always with your reaction to listen to it, and fall in love with this song again.
Really like your comment. I know Chinese but your comments make me feel that you know the emotions and the intentions of the song maker better. And the truth that you play so much instuments also amaze me.🥳
ur feeling and sense to music is amazing..u explain it so well and ...omg..u draw us a "picture" via a sooooong!
Thank you Joe for your professional analysis of this song. I have known this song for many years but your view helps me to understand it much deeper!
这个歌虽然有对时代的感慨但是我个人认为更多的是对现实生活的迷茫和挣扎
Immediate subscribe. So impressed with the level of breakdown.
I'm not sure if this English lyrics is an official translation, I observed a translation that is not very accurate: to buy an illegal gun, the original Chinese lyrics says not illegal gun but fake gun. Personally, I think that this translation is very important for the character's personality and background depicted in the lyrics, even if he want to defend his family, he can only spend a small amount of money to buy a fake gun and pretend to be able to defend his family.
correct!
中文意思是一把假枪。
你的解释让我头皮发麻了
the tranlate should be "to buy a fake gun" not "an illeagle gun"
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🙋🏼 Born in Shijiazhuang in the 90s, thank you Joe for the amazing analysis ✨ you make me got to understand the song‘s structure a lot more clear, and rised up a bit confidence of my hometown creation, its been said a lot there's no culture in my hometown 🥲 kill me, this is awesome
Thank you for making me interested to music again ❤
Best interpretation ever! well done Joe!
My mother is from Shijiazhuang. Back in the 80s, the state-owned medicine industry was the pillar of that city. People had grown accustomed to a tedious but stable life. Suddenly, the former prime minister announced a significant revolution in the entire system, signaling the shutdown of those pillar industries. This led to massive job losses for workers, a surge in suicides, and incidents of robbery and even bombings.
石家庄人路过，10月份滹沱河音乐节，万青压轴，一曲永嘉彗星铺垫后杀死那个石家庄人的节奏响起，全身鸡皮疙瘩都起来了，太爱万青了！
I think there is a word for this song that can make it easier for foreigners to understand its meaning：“Farce”.The fate of many people in the previous generation was forced to change with the reform, but they had no choice but to suppress their inner thoughts.So there was this form of music, which broke out in the seemingly absurd picture and depressed accompaniment.Lin Yutang said a word in My Country and My People："Life is a huge farce,and we human beings are mere puppets in it.The man who takes life too seriously,who obeys library reading-room rules too honestly,who actually keeps off the lawn because merely a signboard says so,always make a fool of himself and is usually subjected to laughter from his older colleagues, and since laughter is contagious,very soon he becomes a humorist,too."This is the
"gray humor"that belongs to China people alone.
Now I understand why I never get bored of this song, thanks for explaining
This is the best review so far. Very high quality understanding, in term of story, the music and your own reaction. You got my subscribe. Looking forward to your future contents.
每次听你的解说，我都感觉得到音乐的力量，以及渊博的知识带给人的那种魅力，所以要努力学习，同时热爱生活
只有一些歌，我能得到能量，其它的歌，我覺得唱就不怎樣，他也評得7788
Thanks for Joe Creator's music commentary. The background of the song is in northern China in the 1990s, when 12 million state-owned employees suddenly lost their jobs due to economic reforms, leaving people in confusion and despair, fortunately both they and China have survived a bloodless social revolution.
I would like to call this song "Soros's Sin". During the Asian financial crisis triggered by American speculators, China was also affected, with many state-owned factories closing down, the previously secure livelihoods disappearing, and many social problems arising
@@jrwkd6114 China was also affected by Soros but the main thing here is changing the system of the country , so you have to unemployee a lot of workers in a communist country and most of the people just believed that it will never change . But you have to because the CCCP proved it .
This channel is GOLD
great video Joe.
Few years ago， when I first heard this song, I got goosebumps all over my body，and It took me a long time to calm down.
I am a Chinese and I never thought a foreigner who doesnt know the language would understand this song so better than me!
Hey, brother. I’m glad you liked the song. This band is currently one of the most legendary rock bands in China. I want to recommend the live version of this song from 2023 in Shanghai. The lyrics didn’t pass political review at that time, so it couldn’t be performed live, leading to a symphonic version, which is truly amazing. Without the language barrier of the lyrics, I believe you’ll enjoy the song even more. Hope you like it. Wishing you all the best in life.
感謝博主介紹了這一首了不起的音樂創作。即使身為一個台灣人，也能深深感受到來自音樂和歌詞的澎湃情懷。創作自由永遠是底層人民自我救贖的可能。
万青貌似去过大港开唱😂
万青去过几次台湾了
同意啊，这是自由意志的表达
I'm so honored!
The whole album is a masterpiece!!!
Reminds me of about 10 years ago during a music appreciation class, I played this song and left the whole class speechless....
This song reflects the painful memories of countless workers losing their jobs during the economic reform period of the 1990s in China. On one hand, there was a sudden and sometimes complete loss of income; on the other hand, there was the psychological shock of those who were once considered the "Ruling class of the nation" now being reduced to unemployed individuals.
The background video you chose is from the movie 钢的琴 ("The Steel piano)" which is also a masterpiece depicting the same historical period. In the drama, the male protagonist is also an unemployed worker struggling to gain custody of his child after divorcing his wife, who remarried to a wealthy man. Unable to afford a piano,as a unemployed steel worker, he crafts a piano made of steel for his child, as the literal translation of 钢的琴 in Chinese means "a musical instrument（piano） made of steel."
天注定
i think it's really really precious to listen
so amazing song like this in cn nowdays
很久前被ban删减了
在cn
The title of the Chinese song translates into English as "Kill that Shijiazhuang man." Shijiazhuang is the capital of Hebei Province, and it is interesting that the three words "Shi Jia Zhuang" translate into English as "rock home town". I am from Shijiazhuang, welcome to my hometown,but please don't kill me.😂
I am from Shijiazhuang, the city described by this song, and now I live in California. This song always reminds me of my hometown.
你好老乡！常回家看看
This is the best song I’ve heard in the past 10 years. The emotion and tension in this song is absolutely incredible. So excited to see the coming back of real music
They were formed in early 2000 and have only released two albums so far. They have honed each album with great care over ten years. Currently, they are one of the top three bands in China. The lead singer once suffered from severe depression; I think someone without such issues wouldn't be able to create such masterpieces.
Joe great great review, This band is THE BAND of China, they also have a live performance version in Shanghai where they take out the vocal replaced with piano, it was bootlegged and circulated on Bilibili. Might be awesome if a follow up video is needed after this one. Their 2nd album is even more complicated, not just on lyrics but the arrangement of the instruments as well as the song writings.
把人声换成钢琴的原因是歌词的敏感性
“live in the experience until the building collapse”. I am the witness of that age. When people think their life will always stay the same as the past 30 years, the change burst into their reality, making them totally lost. That is why the tune was designed to be repeatative in the begining and snaps suddenly.
by the way, you may have known this, the song refers to a period of time that China opened up and embraced a great impact on its social structure where state own companies were not only a job source but also the basic social unit. people stay in those companies for a whole life and their wellfare comes from them. You can imagine their panic feeling when the companies were sold or bankrupted.
作为一个石家庄人真的挺感慨的，我父亲刚好也在药厂工作，我也曾就读于河北师大附中。如今自称摇滚之都的石家庄KTV里也都点不到这首歌😢可以再听听今年政府改编的杀不死的石家庄人，真是有点讽刺…
🤣这个视频可以在B站放的，而且你可以在酷狗QQ音乐等手机软件里找到并演唱，你说KTV不能点到，那就换一个KTV不就完了，或者询问KTV工作人员，而不是在这谈论什么讽刺！不是很清楚你意思！当然政府也封禁了很多以前代表“当时”状况歌曲，注意当时状况，例如：飞翔别人的床，黄家驹的长城......等，我没觉得有什么，人不能总活在过去，应该勇敢走向未来，这首歌从低沉走向高昂，也是想表达这个含义“不屈”！我不反对适时躺平，但是反感那种，任何事物的彻底的摆烂，那是消极的，反社会发展的，当今地球上任何政府都不会允许的！
名字起错了。国家需要正能量。
就算我很喜欢这首歌，我也不认为他应该在KTV的点歌列表中出现，因为光看歌名，不知道这首歌的人看到歌名基本上都是感觉很不好，我问过我爸妈，他们说起这样的歌名就是为了吸引目光，无论歌好不好听，歌词内容贴切与否，都不需要起这种歌名。
@@猴子zzz有些事件、有些历史，我们既然逃避不了，就只能选择面对。无可否定的是，在一些人心中，自己就是被种种生活暴击给谋杀的那位，你之所以喜欢这首歌，不就是因为被这首歌所酝酿的那种沉重绝望疯狂咆哮的感觉，击中了人性的同理心。然而，你却由始至终不愿意直面一些人真实的痛苦和悲伤，仅仅一个歌名而已，何至于如此敏感
谁会去KTV点这歌啊？谁会去悲情片里找快乐啊？100个人去你点，你是KTV老板你会买这首歌吗？
As a child of the grow-ups and witness of the ‘building collapsing’ era, I’ve listened to the song like over 1000 times and over 10 years. But everytime I listened to it, tears always come out of my eyes. It’s the greatest master piece of Chinese rock’n roll, that’s the comment from me, a rock’n roll fan for more than 30 years, which took the place of ‘dream back to Tang Dynasty’.
Was just checking out the HongKong Clokenflap lineup, 1-3 December. 萬能青年旅社 and 草東 from Taiwan are also there!! And then here you are Joe!! Feels so close! Come to Macau someday and I will show you around to practice your Mandarin😂 you improved so much, impressive!
万青可不是台湾的
你牛，万青成台湾的了😂
???? Taiwan?
萬青 is from Hebei, China
I get goosebumps each time I hear the song even after so many years
这歌配着贾导的电影片段 鸡皮疙瘩一直在往地上掉 共鸣了好久。闭上眼睛，需要很长时间平复。需要更多的人能理解30-40岁男人的委屈以及对无情现实生活的无奈
Joe u know every instrument, impressive! I wish I can be the person like you 😃
我是石家庄人，今年23岁。我从小学开始，就很少看到天上的云彩，以至于现在在加拿大每天看到“平平无奇”的云彩都会很幸福。我初高中雾霾就已经很严重了，大家都戴N95，教室里家里都配空气净化器。高中之后就开始每天7am-11pm，周一到周六周而复始的刷题内卷，直到拼死拼活考上了一个上海的985。我的室友说这个学校上海人都觉得考砸了才回来，而我知道我已经拼尽全力了，我对床的山西同学，我们一样的试卷，一样的年纪，她比我低整整50分……后来我去台湾交换了，转学去加拿大了，我发现身边的人真的好轻松啊，享受着清新的空气，没有巨大的升学压力，没有窝囊的地方政府，石家庄，乃至整个河北省，是一个不受待见却备受剥削的地方，我很爱很爱我的家乡，但是我不可能再回去了
作为一个石家庄人 只能对你说一句，再见，再也不见。
只能遗憾的说，任何事物的发展，都是有代价的。现在的石家庄发展的也不错。
我也很喜欢我的家乡，它在甘肃的一个小县城，环境很好，晚上还能看见星星，满月时走夜路都不需要灯，是我的心安之处。但我想那里永远都不可能有很多工厂，永远都不会有你鄙弃的工业污染。听起来很好，但没有工厂，没有稳定收入，大多数父老乡亲只能土里刨食靠天吃饭，一年收成几千块钱，年轻人外地打工漂泊在外。县政府一年税收甚至比不上南方一个轻工业村子。
美国加拿大环境很好，我的家乡环境也很好，但这能一样么。而美国加拿大环境的美好，也是建立在全球包括石家庄等这类城市污染的基础上的。哪里有一蹴而就的事情呢。
我五六年还在上大学时去过一次石家庄，在公交车上听到一些小学生聊天，谈话内容让我感叹不愧是大城市的孩子。而他们的底气，也是建立在这座城市的发展上的。或许是我那里太穷了。
说这么多话，是因为我感觉你看到了加拿大的美好，却没看到它是从哪里付出的代价，看到了石家庄付出的代价，却没看到它收获的美好。这并不客观，时间长了会成为精外，对个人的成长没有好处，我不想一个人变成那样。
（胡思乱想：我们明显不是一个阶层，你这个阶层的一些人习惯性地无视事物背后的逻辑，而认定发达国家好自己国家差，所以导致他们喜欢润到国外？或者，或许这也和生活环境有关，他们初始的这些生活学习环境导致这个阶层的人必然会主动或被动地无视原因，导致产生这样的思维？）
@@神的孩子都在跳舞 我和你本质是一样的，我并没有说加拿大很好，加拿大也是靠转移产业到发展中国家才可以维持清洁的环境。我恰恰是感觉很无力，无论做什么，都改变不了这种现状，我很难过……我最最可怜的是河北农村的老乡，因为北京想要蓝天，就逼迫他们用清洁煤，大冬天在家里也和冰窖一样冷，凭什么因为别人湛蓝的天而在冬天受冻呢？都是人凭什么要先牺牲我们呢？我也没有要留在加拿大的意思，但是我不忍回石家庄了，因为我恰恰知道这些雾霾和那些飙升而不被看见的肺病率从何而来，为何而来，每每想到，就非常不甘心又很无力……我们家确实条件好，但是又能怎么样呢？还不是改变不了任何事情……我尽全力了，我本科论文写的就是这首歌，我讲的就是石家庄悲痛的故事，我现在也在做环保方面的研究和工作，但是想到改变石家庄，我很无力
@@趙珂蘭 我们河北农村六年前就开始烧天然气了
好奇怪，为啥我每次去美国都觉得这是个乡下地方，回上海才觉得回到发达国家，祝你好运
To me 《杀死那个石家庄人》 is the most epic Chinese rock, comparably great as Группа крови (Blood Type) of Кино -- the legendary Soviet rock band.
These two songs both poetically give you an extreme melancholic mood!
I can sing both. These are great songs that you can never get bored of.
I would like to call this song "Soros's Sin". During the Asian financial crisis triggered by American speculators, China was also affected, with many state-owned factories closing down, the previously secure livelihoods disappearing, and many social problems arising
I'm quite shocked that music can convey so many things to someone totally from another background(as a Chinese). and you got all the key points and emotion expressions correct!! how amazing this music is!
我听过这首歌很多次，口琴这一点真是第一次注意到，简直了，谢谢Joe
不是祖卡笛吗？
@@宋Kitty 我也不知道哇，Joe说口琴应该是口琴吧？我就是个普通耳朵
Thank you for the commentary, although i have listened to this song many times and liked it very much, but under your explanation , I understand it more deeply.
By the way ,I am from China.
Great song, and great interpretation from you!!! Bravo!
This music 杀死那个石家庄人, literally translated as Kill that Man in Shijiazhuang, presents a story about the breakdown of the communist economy during the 1990s, and those who used to believe in Utopia were left behind, sacrificed, and withering in poverty. This transformation is as vivid in my memory as it is in the minds of all Chinese people born in the 1970s.
One of my all time favorate. Not only this song, the whole album is great. I fell very sad that they are not making new songs anymore.
〈Inside the Cable Temple〉is they latest album released in2020
冀西南林路行
这首曲子的精髓就是那句
“直到大厦崩塌”
mv中正好对应着工厂巨大的蒸汽烟囱倒塌
既是画面的描述，又是一种意象
非常直观的刻画了时代变迁带来的改变
最开始，似乎一切向好，管弦乐依然悠扬
即使剧变，生活中那些既定的轨迹也不会被拦腰打断，
后面音乐逐渐复杂，甚至嘈杂和混乱，一开始的管弦乐逐渐被盖住
像是变化来的太突然，当下的那种茫然和无所适从
逐渐变成恐慌和焦虑还有愤怒与不甘
最后冲突爆发，矛盾加剧，一切都崩塌毁灭
Joe 是有真本事的👍
当年点评一首歌可是100美元一首歌的😂
第一次聽這首歌，可以聽出 舊年代生活的"崩潰"
生活三十年，一夕之間全部改變，為了守護自己生活，拚上剩下的一切
藥廠?企業?工作? 失去重心與希望的未來 ，黑暗的心情 奔騰的思考，該何去何從的茫然
I like to see you playing the instruments, so talented Joe are you!
很喜欢你选的这个视频，配的这几部电影也非常棒。我看过很多遍，每次都有不一样的感触啊，这是一首伟大的歌，在时代的车轮碾压下，每个人都是一粒扬起的灰尘
It's China's Rust Belt, just like rust belt in USA, these are two group of people(on the two side of pacific ocean!) that been left over by globalization.
Hebei’s pain is so not caused by globalization tho
@@mengyuanzhang3576 lol, Beijing leeching it
the group name --“青年旅店”means a hotel for the youths which is often small and moderately decorated.
影片其實是電影"鋼的琴" 、"天注定" 並非原曲的MV
还有个 树先生
As you say their band member has:
Dong Yaqian (lead vocal/guitar/mandolin)
Ji Geng (bass)
Shi Li (trumpet/flute/euphonium)
Su Lei (Guitar/Mandolin)
Feng Jiang (drums)
Li Zenghui (Alto Saxophone)
Zhao Lu (tenor saxophone)
Feng Yuliang (tenor saxophone)
Miao Zheng (baritone saxophone)
Liu Yibin (viola/mandolin)
Liu Kuo (violin)
Zheng Haorong (piano)
视频画面里有太多的故事。
充满无奈，不公，失望，迷失，嫉妒，空有一腔热血，时代却已落幕，新篇章急速行进，变则通，有空抒发下深藏心底的一些旧东西也变成一种对青春岁月的怀念。
It tells a heavy story in the social context of that period that no one wants to tell again, only to feel it.
是的，这首歌在石家庄人眼里也算是一种精神依托，不过去年河北政府想通过塑造"摇滚省市"的形象来促进发展，然后改编了这首歌，把本来对社会阴暗面披露的歌词改的非常阳光，然后被网民冲烂了，一致反对
not a band per se, but it's definitely someone you should checkout - Pu Shu 朴树 - No fear in my heart
If folks haven’t, check out the live version of this song
Finally the day has come, 万能青年旅店！ please review more of their songs.
I'm glad you're listening to this song and this band. We have a saying called "The Omnipotent Youth of a Generation," which means that the band has influenced an entire generation of Chinese rock youth from the 80s to the 90s.
I am in awe of how articulate you are in describing a work of art and how spot on your analysis is. Love every minute of your reaction and commentary. I would also like to watch your reaction on 宋冬野's song called 郭源潮 or any of his songs. Keep up the good work! Thank you.
!!! Yes 郭源潮please !!!
宋冬野没有青年的作品有深度
My favourite song. Thanks!
感觉 Joe 来中国一趟以后再听这样的歌已经打开了一个新世界
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萬能青年旅店現場演出 The Omnipotent Youth Society Live listen from 50.50 this song is incredible
最初打动我的是九爷的那双真诚而清澈的眼眸，我知道联接它们的定然是一颗专注于音乐的干净的心！用语言表达音乐殊非易事，而九爷却能将各种乐器、弦律所表达出的情感用语言向我们清晰深刻地表达出来，这让我由衷地佩服与感激！当九爷真正读懂这首歌词的时候，不知道你的眼神是否还会一如既往？这里的人民正在被诅咒！不远的将来，当诅咒消失之后，欢迎九爷再次前来，你会看到我们真实的样子！❤爱你九爷！
人對事的理解都是只是一面鏡子,你聽到/看到的是政治,只因為你腦子裡都是政治。
JOE聽到和看到的都只有在他心裡最愛的: 音樂!
❤❤🎉what amazed me is that u can play all of these instruments!! Marvelous🎉
it's quite surprising to see you explain this song for a whole video; as a Shijiazhuang local, I can explain a little bit from our point of view. When I was a kid, my parents, same as everyone, worked in factories. My mom was in Huabei Zhiyao, which was the largest pharmaceutical factory for penicillin production in Asia. Factories like this under the socialist background provides very good living condition. The factory, as an enterprise, builds apartments for workers, shuttle buses for transportation, they have their own kindergartens and schools, and even hospitals. so everyone was living a peaceful and happy live. and the building collapsed, representing the reform and opening wave in China. some people left to make more money for their own, and things started to change; the factories gradually broke because they could not maintain their market under the new situation, and people had no choice but to leave the jobs that they worked for their lives. it was basically a scenario for the whole northeast land in china. we can hear the instrument crying here. but there's no choice for these ppl, u can only embrace the destiny.
现在华北制药也存在啊，可能一些工厂关闭了，但公司显然还存在
@@yesujidu110 是国有行业体制的崩塌，除了华药还有很多国有厂子倒闭了啊
一直都好愛這首歌,雖然身處不同時間與空間,卻能從歌曲中感受到深深的悲傷,尤其聽完Joe從樂器,編曲,歌詞等方面說明後,更清楚知道每次聽這首歌都忍不住雞皮疙瘩的原因,謝謝Joe!
There are some issues with the English subtitles of this song lyric; the translation is not accurate, for example,its should be 'using a counterfeit bill to buy a fake gun.‘ instead a illegal gun
the collapse of building, in Chinese historical idiom implies the collapse of the empire. etc. in Taohuashan, "To see them building the high-towel, to see them banqueting,to see their building collapsed..."
超愛萬能青年旅店，我另外推薦「大石碎胸口」最後的小號和薩克斯風互相飆音是一絕！
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推一波
那段也很棒
you totally empathy with the background story in the song
The video looks like scenes from several different movies.
钢的琴，天注定和树先生。
My eyes were wide open when he said the mans life was in chaos...you really do read the gigantic sadness behind it
You are the most powerful commentator I think. You have a high level of knowledge in Chinese, and the music theory is also very good.❤
The band is consist of a vocal, guitar, drum, and trumpet. You're right. They kicks the start of trumpet in a band and it becomes part of the rock tradition. Also, the sound of the harmonica might be a traditional mongolian instrument 马头琴 instead of a harmonica.
歌曲背景 使用的一些电影片段 最多的是哪一年的忘了,挺久了,导演贾樟柯,在当时被国内禁播,但是我依然看过,改编自在当时国内发生的4个颇具传播的真实事件1.胡文海事件 2.周克华银行抢劫大案 3.邓玉娇洗脚妹被客户羞辱反杀事件 4.富士康跳楼事件
天注定国内没有禁播啊，院线公映了
@@luwenlian现在想看不太容易，没有视频平台上架，相似的还有2022的隐入尘烟，影院播完后，视频平台上了一个月，播放量挺大的，随后全网下架了😅
@@luwenlian什么时候公映的
没禁播，网上随便一搜就有
只是没上院线，网上能看。
this music hit my heart so strong