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Ranking the NHL's #2 Draft Picks from 2005-2020
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- I looked at #1 picks yesterday, so today we look at the next names called from each draft.
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“It’s better to go number one cause no one remembers number two”-Senators legend Alexandre Daigle.
#2 pick that year was some bum named Chris Pronger
@@michaelkeller5927 only won a hart and a norris such a bust
@@PZYK0PATH that's why we don't remember him. If only he went 1st
Pronger would absolutely crush Daigle mentally and physically, if they ever actuallt met on the ice LOL
@@michaelkeller5927 some stiff named Paul Kariya went 4th overall that year. If only he went 1st overall, people might actually have heard of him.
Cannot stress enough how important Drew Doughty is to the Kings. Him being injured throughout round 1 of the playoffs really affected the Kings, because now it was a relatively inexperienced defense against Conor McDavid. Super proud they pushed that Oilers team to 7 games, and if the team can stay healthy, I’m hoping we have a rematch round this upcoming season.
Ya I totally agree with you on that one drew doughty is a huge part of the kings still I’m an oilers fan but ya I was surprised and amazed that u guys pushed us to game 7 him being injured was a huge disadvantage for you guys and hopefully both our teams are fully healthy and we can have a more fair rematch!!!!
When Doughty was ruled out for the playoffs I felt it took the ceiling of the Kings from reaching the Conference Final to possibly winning a round. Having a 30 min anchor on the blue line during the playoffs to me is the 2nd most important position to goaltender. It was clear not having someone that could contain McDavid was the overall difference in the series. With the addition of Fiala and not playing in the playoffs you're going to see a very motivated Drew this season.
Proud or grateful?
@@06rtm Proud. Not many people even had the Kings making the playoffs this year since this past season was technically still a rebuild year. Not only did they make it, but pushed a pretty stacked Oilers team to 7 games (hell even had a 3-2 series lead) without their elite defenseman and one of their top forwards? Yeah that’s really impressive.
A London boy! It was great when he won the cup, it kept coming back to London! As will this year with Kadri
Since there's such differences between 1 & 2, it'd be interesting to see the ranking of the best top 5 (picks) draft classes between 05-20.
Yes it would, but I don’t want Shannon to collapse from the exhaustion a list like that would cause
This would be great
I like the list. I would have Landeskog at 4 over Eichel. just pure leadership, great team guy.
Landeskog’s style of play is not flashy like Nate or Mikko but he’s productive.
I wouldn't say Mikko is flashy at all. Mikko can be flashy, and should be flashy and you scream at the TV for him to do something, to show up at some point then you look at the stat sheet and see he has 25 points in 20 games and you're like how to hell! Honestly I'd say Gabe and even Compher had more flash than Mikko especially on the cup run.
I dont know if you did but a video about top 3 steal from each past 20 years draft. Looking at where they where suppose to get drafted and maybe why they drop so much and ended up surprising everyone. Would love to watch a video like that.
Keep the good work THG! Love the channel
I would put Landeskog above Eichel for the very reason you state in the vid. Landy has those qualities, and Eichel has shown the opposite at times. Jack is more skilled, for sure. But one just lifted the Cup and the other has yet to play a NHL playoffs game. Say what you want about the teams around them, but a lot of that falls on the captain.
Not saying I would take Landy over Eichel right now (because of the age difference) but looking at what they have done so far, it would be hard not to.
yeah but one was on buffalo for like 6 years. Best teammate by far was Reinhart and a rookie Dahlin. The sabes haven't been to the playoffs since 2009.
EICHEL´S stats also sucks. below a point per game for a player who has consistently been on the top line and PP..
So much content today!
Thanks again man!
Your video is as good as always. Thank you for the consistent, good content!
You should do the best 20 steals of the same time period! Would be fun to see who you'd rank in a top 20 with such a large time frame. (Could consider a steal late first the whole way to the last pick 🤔)
Alot of them would be goalies
I have a bias, but Claude Giroux at 20th overall in 2006 has to be on that list
Zetterberg was a 7th rounder I think
Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk
@@baohoaily all 3 were drafted well before 2005 though
Entertaining premise! I would have placed Jordan Staal and Bobby Ryan higher than Seguin, Laine and Reinhart, principally because they’ve been superior playoff-in addition to quality regular season-performers. In retrospect, Eichel might have peaked several seasons back and thus might slide down this list behind Landeskog.
interesting. I dont have the same values and I agree to where most the guys were put
Boy you out yo damn mind
Jordan Staal maybe, Bobby Ryan definately not:)
I hope you keep these videos coming, they are very interesting.
Love your content THG!!!!
As a Bolts fan, I'm eternally grateful to the Isles for taking Tavares first and leaving Victor for us!
I love this video concept. It’s interesting to compare draft years this way and see how good years are compared to others! Great content as always!
I like this series - keep it up
Svechnikov’spoint totals reminds me of Erik Cole. When you watch him play, you’re left to believe that he produces more than he actually does.
I would've put Bobby higher on the list, but I'm also a Sens fan. Hope he gets the support he needs to continue his healing journey 🙏
I agree Shannon, Eichel does need to pick it up this coming season. I think a full off-season and training camp plus a new coach will definitely help him with that.
I think he will coz he played with a broken finger last season
Svechnikov concerns me. He has that Alex Semin thing going on imo - where he absolutely has the skill set to go 40/80 in under 80 games, but just seems to refuse to play to his potential on a nightly basis. Carolina won't win a cup with this roster unless Svech can be that guy that puts up point per game numbers to support Aho. Their defense is as close to perfect as you can get, and they have one of the best goaltending tandems in the league. Scoring is their weakness. We shall see.
Love these videos! My list:
16. Byfield (short career thus far, he could rise)
15. Patrick (earlier in his career, and injury problems)
14. Murray (put together over 400 games, but a bottom pairing defenseman most of the time)
13. Kakko (yet to put it all together)
12. Svechnikov (very impressive plays, but overall numbers are less impressive than you'd think. Could move way up in a few years)
11. Reinhart (Best year in 2021-22--will see if he continues)
10. Van Reimsdyk (pretty reliable 20-goal scorer for many years)
9. Ryan (scored 30+ goals for four straight seasons)
8. Staal (consistently receives Selke votes and puts up middle six offensive numbers)
7. Laine (relatively short career, but already has had some excellent years)
6. Seguin (five 30+ goal years and a long career already)
5. Eichel (injuries have slowed him down as of late, but was rapidly improving prior to that)
4. Landeskog (steady point-per-game player recently and strong playoff performer)
3. Barkov (can be relied on for 90+ points and is one of the best defensive forwards)
2. Doughty (tons of games, one Norris, two 2nd place Norris finishes, and one third place finish)
1. Hedman (greatest defenseman of the last decade--one Norris and five 3rd place finishes)
I also love these videos, and really like your list. I used your list while listening to THG to help remember all 16 names and then looked away from it and put together my own. Our lists are pretty similar. I have a few flipped, but it's not without a little trepidation because some are apples to oranges arguments anyway, like where to put Jordin Staal given he has a different role (and was one of the better forwards in the league at it for a while). It's hard to come up with an exact formula, but doing it roughly I weighed longevity, impact vs the league, and impact on their team/what they meant to their team. Maybe it's with a silvery recency bias that I have Landeskog ahead of Barkov, for instance. I have no argument with anyone who'd put Barkov ahead of Landeskog. He's a very dynamic player, arguably the best player in the world on a good night.
1. Victor Hedman
2. Drew Doughty
3. Gabriel Landeskog
4. Aleksandr Barkov
5. Jack Eichel
6. Tyler Seguin
7. Jordin Staal
8. Patrik Laine
9. Bobby Ryan
10. Andrei Svechnikov
11.Sam Reinhart
12.James Van Riemsdyk
13. Ryan Murray
14. Kappo Kakko
15. Nolan Patrick
16. Quinton Byfield.
I would argue Duncan Keith was better
@@thpisland2423 totally disagree. Hedman should have about 4 norris trophies at this point. And the most under talked about stat with hedman, he plays as a number 1 dman, playing against other team top players, and he does it with the lightnings worst dman playing on his other side. He's so good, they take their number 6/7 dman and stick them with him. Matt Carle, Dan Girardi, Jan Rutta, Luke Schenn, Bogo. Hedman legit should go down as one of the best dmen of all time.
@@LSLS5555 In the last decade Duncan Keith was totally better. When they went head to head in 2015 Keith got the playoff MVP
Good list. You could make a very good team with that group of players.
I would be interested in the same kind of video on #3 draft picks, acknowledging that the content quickly dwindles, but I think at #3 there is still a lot of interesting material.
Players careers , THG HOF , redrafts my 3 favorite type of videos .
It would be interesting to see how 2012 stacks up in the only contest it might have a chance at - 19th overall picks.
love all the vids and these are great! but im not too convinced about reinhart over some of the guys you listed under him
Landeskog over Eichel for sure but otherwise perfect list
Even then it's splitting hairs to say that. And Gabe is my favorite player in the NHL.
Could you do a Douglas Murray or dan Boyle career video? Grew up watching those guys as a sharks fan love them all! Keep up the great work or love these new list videos!
Boyler for sure!!
Boyle wiuld be cool
Boyle aint done though
Murray! I had this guy in my head the other day as a candidate for widest nhl player
Boyle was amazing in San Jose. Very underrated imo
Nolan Patrick was hurt coming out of juniors to NHL. Philly made a bad pick.
Brendan Shanahan was a #2 pic in 1987 by the Devils, super random that I had his HockeyDb page up as i started watching this video..
Love your content
Jonathan Quick should definitely be in the Hall!
I wouldn't put Eichel ahead of Landy 🤷♂️
It’s fun to see even how pick 2 is Eastern Heavy. Given Edmonton’s numerous #1s they take care almost of the total number of Westerns #2s
Drew doughty is so important for the kings without him the team isn’t the same and it showed through out round 1 against Edmonton hopefully everyone stays healthy and we can have a rematch in the playoffs against Edmonton this season
as a cbj fan i totally agree with murray's placement. he was Always injured!
Shannon, you gotta have 03 and 04 draft included in this era of players. So many great players not included in this list that needed to be involved in this generation of players' conversation. Just felt some players are missing, you can add those to the list, haha.😆
I like this list, Victor Hedman is definitely the best player from this list.
It does feel like Quinton Byfield is taking a bit long to reach NHL speed, but he is also literally still a teenager (for 3 more days). He has SO much hockey left in front of him. Lafreniere as a point of comparison is 22 months older than him.
And he missed nearly a year to injury.
Sad you’re not gonna do the top centres/wingers/etc lists :( always like those
im hoping beyond hope for a big year from kaapo kakko 🤞
Tuned in to see where Ryan Murray ranked. That didn't take long. But it's fair. He's a solid d-man, but he can't stay in the lineup. He had a series of injuries, then developed a chronic condition that practically guaranteed he wouldn't play any more full seasons.
Hoping Laine can move up on this list over the next few years.
Shannon, an idea i had about this.
How about ranking EVERY 1st overall player you've seen play, from like the early 80s to 2021.
I'd like to see 2004 draft including is those lists, because of Malkin and Ovechkin. Ovi would be the 2nd best 1st pick in my list, just behind Crosby, and Malkin would be in the same position as a 2nd best player, just behind Hedman.
Would love to see your side by side comparison of your number 1 list with this one.
It's a shame Doughty's season ended the way it did last year. Guy was so ready to show people he's still one of the best defensemen in the league. Really hoping he can still do that in 2022/23... One of the fiercest competitors out there and still has a LOT left in the tank. If he stays healthy, I honestly think he shocks (most of) the NHL and puts up 60+ points next year
Barkov doesn't have a playoff gear, I'd put him behind Doughty. Doughty has two cups and was the best defenseman in at least one Olympics
I would have put Doughty over Barkov. Doughty does well during the playoffs
Agreed. Just the cup runs puts him over barkov and if not for EK he'd have more Norris trophies
Facts
Could you do “Ranking people drafted in the 7th round”? I think that would be interesting.
Solid list.
Love Doughty with all my heart but he is 3rd on this list. I believe Doughty isnt done playing at a high level and I am confident he will break 60 points again. Already a HOF without a doubt
Agree with on the Huberdeau vs Barkov as the best Florida Panthers player last year, I mean Barkov is often compared to Datsyuk
Have you done top 10 undrafted players video?
Can you make a video on #3 draft picks ? Really want to see where you rank Stutzle
do a rank video about the greatest players picked #11 or lower over the years
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I really wished you did do more list videos such as top centres, wingers, players etc. I know it causes toxicity and that’s a shame but I hope you just do them anyway and block out the hate
I remember being so angry about the red wings getting absolutely cheated out of a top 3 pick in 2020. But now I look back and realize it was a blessing in disguise. Cause Raymond had been better than anyone else in that round outside of Stutzle and even he had a worst rookie year than Raymond did
Maybe please do a list of the best seventh round picks of all time?
Svech will find his way to top 5 on this list eventually
It's going to take a huge step forward for him to get there. His PPG is lower than Landeskog by a small margin and massive margin compared to Eichel, and he doesn't do as much in a compete game as Gabe. So unless Eichel just completely falls apart and Svech has a big leap then maybe. But I see him probably around 6. Also needs to work on his boxing 😁
Agree wit the list only I'd put Eichel at 6 and Seguin at 4
funny that Boston have had both Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin at some point.
1. Hedman
2. Doughty
3. Landeskog
4. Barkov
5. Seguin
6. Eichel
7. Svechnikov
8. Laine
9. JVR
10. Ryan
11. Reinhart
12. Staal
13. Kakko
14. Murphy
15. Byfield
16. Patrick
I feel like if svech didnt focus so much on his physical play then hed definately have more goals, his physical play is nice but i feel lile he leans into it too much and it takes away from the rest of his game sometimes
How about picking one player from each draft 2005-2020 that should've gone higher (you don't need to say just how high), almost like a "Biggest steal in Drafts from 2005-2020"? Would love to see who'd you pick :)
2014 re-draft yes please!
this list is 100% perfect: can you do a "las vegas expansion redraft video"? can THG pick better players with hindsight or VGK 's original picks/trade would be better. anybody agree? give me thumbs up
Hard to truly tell with all the back door deals Vegas was able to make.
Vegas did as well as you could have hoped, heck better even. Vegas was supposed to be what Seattle was this season but somehow made it to the final.
@@maxrcrypto most the leagues gms hadn’t gone through the expansion draft. Vegas made a lot of handshake deals to not take certain players and that’s something the gms didn’t do for Seattle. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice…
@@christyouredumb956 I know that Seattle was dealt a different hand. I'm just saying doing a re-draft with Vegas is kind of pointless because you couldn't have done any better than what they did.
@@maxrcrypto but THG has hindsight advantage to work with.
Pretty close to my list. I think I would rate Staal higher, but that is the only one I could pick out.
I think the Getzlaf/Ryan Olympics medals video propels Ryan past JVR.
I agree that Hedman is untouchable at number 1. A darn shame he only has one norris to his name.
How about a video on big names who were never drafted but made it into the NHL through hard work and showing up to camps? Alex Burrows, who you recently did a profile of, for example. And none of the WHA players who merged into the NHL like Gretzky.
Okay, not a big name, but remember Guy Charbonneau from the Canucks 1994 Cup run? He was never drafted, played for the Vancouver Voodoo of that defunct roller hockey league and was a walk-on in camp when the roller league folded.
@the hockey guy....curious. why do you start alot of your ranking videos start at 2005 ? Being as I'm relatively new to the sport ( started following in 2008 ) I don't know alot about the years prior to that. And I'm very curious about early 2000s 90s and 80s hockey. Would love to see more videos on those eras. Anything
I believe that’s when they implemented the salary cap (05-06 season)
Nice job. I think overall best career so far it’s gotta be Doughty, but it’s so close that it’s splitting C hairs. In my mind at this point it’s a two horse race between him and Hedman, and everyone else deserves to be on the other side of the board.
Hedman, not even close.
@@SverigeiSverige 2 real cups and 3 gold medals says otherwise. In terms of who i want at the blue line right now i go with Hedman but in terms of career so far it's Doughty
@@amadeussmith693 "real cups"
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As an Avs thank you Philly for picking Nolan instead of Cale.
I'm surprised anyone says anything about Eichel's season with Vegas considering he was nearly PPG while still recovering from several injuries. Eichel is a bonafide superstar, and as long as he comes back healthy this upcoming season, he'll likely hit 100 points.
he was scoring at a 60 point pace in Vegas. not sure where you got "nearly PPG" from.
Eichel also played with a broken finger last year
Crazy to see how many of these players have been traded over the years, 9 of 16.
Yea that list seems about right👍
I definitely agree with Byfield and Patrick being low. Since being drafted, both have had slower development.
i think maybe LA's doing that intentionally. joe thornton developed slowly, and now he's the highest scoring active NHL player. some guys you have to bring along a bit slower, and some you can throw in the fire right away. we'll see where QB is in 2-3 years.
I'd argue that even thought Eichel's heights are higher, I'd put Landy above him across their entire careers.
if it started 2004 instead of 2005, would Malkin be #1 on your list?
Ooooo, me being a Bolts fan and clearly bias when I say I’d still take Heddy. I like this question
Great list. I’d put Landeskog above Eichel, but that’s about it.
1. Hedman
2. Doughty
3. Barkov
4. Landeskog
Joe Pavelski in the 7th round sounds pretty good to me. Let's take these videos to at least the 7th to catch em all.
This is 2nd overall pick not second round? He’s have to do nearly 250 videos to get to joe pavelski
Eichel does NOT belong in 4th. It's not just one bad season. Landeskog has clearly had a better career.
The rest seem alright
Jonathan Toews went 3rd in 2006 crazy.
It's hard to disagree with this list. It'll be interesting what it looks like ten years from now.
No one remembers who gets drafted second.
LOL i completely forgot about doughty saying that about the canucks
Worth mentioning… the flyers NEVER landed a number 1 pick. Ever. We lucked into 2 that one time and ended up with nolan patrick. Life is pain.
Ok, once. 1975. I had to double check
If you had included '04, where would you put Malkin? Number 1?
Remember, the Bruins don't get the Seguin pick in 2010 or Dougie Hamilton pick a year later without trading Kessel to Toronto.
😩
Quinton Byfield was injured too.
Wanted to see Spez fit into this
2001
@@SverigeiSverige I know 😢
The Rangers were lucky moving up in the draft to get those recent high picks.
Man you really just need to change it form 2000-2016. Too many unproven/unknown quantities
About “We shouldn’t lose to a team like that”… Was THAT in reference to the opponent or was THAT referring to HOW they lost?
Sound bites sound better when taken out of context.
I think Doughty should be number 2. He’s got 2 cups and an HOF
Eichel is too high. He’s a poison and hasn’t played a second of playoff hockey
Doughty has been pretty brutal for a few seasons before last year. I understand he was regarded as one of the best D men in his prime but he isnt always consistent
Will you do three aswell?