The Badass Story of the Dad's Army

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  • @TodayIFoundOut
    @TodayIFoundOut  10 місяців тому +38

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    • @gypsydildopunks7083
      @gypsydildopunks7083 10 місяців тому +1

      Why doesn't the UA-cam algorithm pay you more moneys?

    • @duncancurtis5108
      @duncancurtis5108 10 місяців тому

      Operation Stallion?

    • @NinjaNezumi
      @NinjaNezumi 10 місяців тому +2

      DAD'S ARMY REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!

    • @happierdude4536
      @happierdude4536 10 місяців тому +1

      I expected a mention of the "Send a Gun to Defend a British Home" campaign by the "American Committee for Defense of British Homes" (1940). Militarily fairly useless but some arms did make it into the Home Guard. The weapons were, of course, destroyed at the end of hostilities as the British citizenry chose to go back to their supine prewar existence. Lessons learned? hardly.

    • @rchap-grab
      @rchap-grab 10 місяців тому +1

      It would be interesting to compare the Home guard with the actual capabilities of the volksturm in 45

  • @Mullhead_III
    @Mullhead_III 10 місяців тому +65

    I attended a party on arrival to Australia and there were three old gentleman there, all over 90. They recounted to me how they were in the home guard in the Yorkshire Dales. One night an airman landed by parachute in a field they were near and they rushed up and held him at gunpoint. The pilot was trying to communicate frantically with them but they did not speak German. After some chin wagging together they decided the best option was to take their prisoner down to the village pub hoping that someone there could understand what he was trying to say and hand him over to the local bobby. Turned out he was a Polish fighter pilot whose plane had failed and they all ended up getting completely drunk. I will never forget those 3 sprightly young ninety year olds who had their stories so well rehearsed that they could have been on the stage together. Sadly, I never met up with them again and I’m pretty certain they’re the only chaps I’ve seen wearing ties at a party or n Australia.

  • @cynderfan2233
    @cynderfan2233 10 місяців тому +34

    A lot of people forget, a lot of the Home Guard were World War 1 veterans. They survived the trenches of the Great War, so they knew what they were doing when they had to pick up a gun again. They already had the training and the experience, they just needed a refresher course.

  • @SiskinOnUTube
    @SiskinOnUTube 10 місяців тому +156

    My grandad spent the war mining coal to keep the war industry running. Any spare time was spent volunteering in the Home Guard. He was probably fitter than your average squaddie. I feel pride in his efforts.

    • @pr0xZen
      @pr0xZen 10 місяців тому +9

      As well earned, and you rightfully should 👍

    • @chrisdiboll2256
      @chrisdiboll2256 10 місяців тому +6

      Quite right too

    • @oldsteve4291
      @oldsteve4291 10 місяців тому +13

      It was reprehensible that the British government did not give recognition to those that served in our mines during the war. Their job was essential to the war effort and many died underground. As a country we owe a debt of gratitude to these men. I would like to thank your grandad and all those who mined the much needed coal for their service to our country.

    • @dbach1025
      @dbach1025 10 місяців тому +3

      definitely be proud. that whole generation was amazing. they served in many ways, including the mothers back home waiting. not enough recognition for the non-combatants. but even I would rather see Band of Brothers than a movie primarily about Rosie's Riveters or the heart break of a mom learning her son's death.

    • @dickJohnsonpeter
      @dickJohnsonpeter 10 місяців тому

      So your dad was in Cornwall. The only place on the flat earth that coal has ever been found is a tin mine in Cornwall called the Trevithick Schmiddy. You aren't a roundie are you? This mine is almost out of coal to send to America. This is why they pretended to go to the moon and get its coal. Don't tell the roundies I said this. Move out of Yorkshire and get in the Trevithick Schmiddy now. Don't leave I won't let you.

  • @jacksoncz8536
    @jacksoncz8536 10 місяців тому +112

    I recently re-binged "Dad's Army", and yes it makes many jokes about the Home Guard. However, there are also a number of times when it also shows the willingness of the members to give there all in defense of their home.
    The members of the Home Guard would have known that they were meant to die, to slow down the Germans until the RA showed up. Yet they still did their job.

    • @andrewcarson5850
      @andrewcarson5850 10 місяців тому +20

      Dad's Army is really an odd-couple sit-com betweein Mainwaring and Wilson set in the Home Guard. I never felt it mocked the Home Guard itself, more poked fun at the various echelons of British society by mashing them together, a class comedy, if you will, particularly how the two leads have their social positions reversed.

    • @andrewthorpe3219
      @andrewthorpe3219 10 місяців тому +12

      Interesting facts. The actor who played Godfrey was a veteran of WW1 and was in the Home Guard in WW2. Most of the actors had served in WW2. So they had a wealth of experience to draw on.

    • @johntaylorson7769
      @johntaylorson7769 10 місяців тому +14

      @@andrewthorpe3219 True: Arnold Ridley, who played Godfrey, had an amazing life deserving of a movie/tv show in itself: from hand to hand combat in the Somme to narrow escapes in WW2 to being a well respected writer in peacetime... to playing doddering old Godfrey in Dad's Army.
      I could be mistaken, but think I recall the plotline of having Godfrey be a Cconscientious Objector (brilliant episode) was something he himself suggested (or at least championed) due to his experiences seeing the horrors of war first hand.

    • @richardb22
      @richardb22 10 місяців тому +7

      @@johntaylorson7769 I just Wikkid his war record . The bloke got bayonetted and all sorts and still went back for WW2 . There is apparently a Desert Island discs I am going to have a listen if it is still on the BBC. What a lad !

    • @lordeden2732
      @lordeden2732 10 місяців тому +1

      Like heck.
      The Home Guard units Ar.y father came across would have not been seen for dust if a German appeared
      In many cases down pilots were either arrested by the local Bobby or Landsrmy girls who were terrors with pitchforks.

  • @Grumpy_Codger
    @Grumpy_Codger 10 місяців тому +180

    Always admired the idea of the Home Guard. No one fights harder than they do for their own patch of land.

    • @bodavidson2804
      @bodavidson2804 10 місяців тому +20

      As silly as the show Dad's Army was, you got the feeling that they really would have thrown themselves at the Germans, if only to slow them down a bit

    • @chrisjb241
      @chrisjb241 10 місяців тому +15

      ​@@bodavidson2804 They don't like it up em

    • @angel102ify
      @angel102ify 10 місяців тому +5

      just make sure you don't tell them your name Pike.

    • @thelittlehooer
      @thelittlehooer 10 місяців тому +8

      As the Ukranians are demonstrating right now.

    • @tankman7711
      @tankman7711 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@chrisjb241 The cold steel, Jonsey, the cold steel!

  • @catbevis1644
    @catbevis1644 10 місяців тому +5

    Dad's Army doesn't really mock the Home Guard- there are several episodes which make it clear that they were a respectable force. "The Battle of Godfrey's Cottage" for one. We have the benefit of hindsight to know that the Home Guard never had to defend our land from invasion, but they didn't know that at the time. They VOLUNTEERED to take on the most successful invading army in the world despite age/youth, infirmity and severe lack of equipment. They knew they couldn't defeat the German army, but they hoped that laying down their lives would just buy our army enough time. Brave, brave men and no less worthy of our respect than any "regular" armed force.

  • @OllieNorthover
    @OllieNorthover 10 місяців тому +48

    You should definitely make a Video going deeper into the auxiliary 'stay behind' units. It was so secret, no one else was supposed to know they even existed, their bunkers were hidden with ingenious mechanisms, and tons still haven't been discovered yet as lots of the members never told anyone what they did during the war. There's probably still some caches of weapons and explosives hidden around. Incredible stories.

    • @oldsteve4291
      @oldsteve4291 10 місяців тому +8

      Michael Foot MP , George Orwell and J.B.Priestley were all Scallywags. I agree, it would make a great show.

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 10 місяців тому

      isn't a bunch of that like literal propaganda to tell spies.
      like a bunch of bunkers weren't found because they only existed on paper to make it look like that an invasion would be more expensive, for that reason enemy only thinking they might exist matters, besides than that they're a fairly regular resistance movement thing. finland had it's own weapon stashing scandal that some people went to prison for(contingency for soviet occupation, but against the surrender rules so few people like larry then lauri thorne did some time for it).
      it also happens to be a favorite subject for people telling tall stories. perfect subject really.

    • @nlwilson4892
      @nlwilson4892 10 місяців тому +6

      I've seen on a few things that part of what they did was to compile lists of those likely to collaborate, not just those that expressed Nazi type views but those that would always put themselves first with no consideration for country or principles. The idea was that if there was an invasion, those likely collaborators would be executed before they got chance.
      There are also sources that suggest that the weapons caches were moved after the war with ring-wingers being given the location to provide resistance in case of a Soviet invasion.

    • @ProbablyNotLegit
      @ProbablyNotLegit 10 місяців тому +7

      Yep, people still find weapons caches to this day as many were never documented

    • @Evilroco
      @Evilroco 10 місяців тому

      @@oldsteve4291 I as about to mention those notable scallywags , apparently many with communist sympathies were recruited as their views were seen to make them more likely to resist a Fascist/Nazi regime with extreme measures.

  • @peterbriggs3408
    @peterbriggs3408 10 місяців тому +353

    Stands back to admire the phrase "... a four legged tripod" 🤣🤣

    • @quietlistener7054
      @quietlistener7054 10 місяців тому +22

      Yeah, that made my eye twitch 😅

    • @Adrian-vd6ji
      @Adrian-vd6ji 10 місяців тому +27

      thats a man willing to make a stand

    • @MrSmith-gd3gz
      @MrSmith-gd3gz 10 місяців тому +31

      A quad pod

    • @abc-coleaks-info
      @abc-coleaks-info 10 місяців тому +7

      That’s me standing beside you cupping my chin with a look of wonder and suspicion. 😂

    • @Hello_Fuckers0
      @Hello_Fuckers0 10 місяців тому +6

      I was reading through the comments as I listened and saw your comment literally 10 seconds before Simon said it lol wonder at the comment turned into understanding in an instant 😅

  • @alanlawson4180
    @alanlawson4180 10 місяців тому +12

    A good summary - well done, Simon & Co.
    A few additional points -
    Weapons: a shotgun is lethal at short ranges, and as most HG were to fight in their own town or village, and many knew their way around with a shotgun, these would have been very effective.
    AW grenades, etc. My village, in ASW England had a HG of over 200, and this "Company" had on the books several thousand AW and petrol bombs which were stashed around the place, plus numerous dug-in fougasse. Again, short range weapons, but that was the point.
    Men/Women: a look at any photos of a HG Unit will show many with Gallantry Medal ribbons, such as the MM and MC. These were men, early '40s, who knew their area and while not the sort to make a long assault, in defence they'd have been tough customers. Plus, it wasn't only those unfit/too old for active service. MAny men were in 'reserved' occupations, such as farmers, factory workers, etc., and these were key HG members.
    Locations: HG were essentially to defend their own homes. Their families were told to stay put, so they'd be defending them as well. A strong motivator! Especially as....
    AH had declared them to be bandits, so they would be murdered on capture. Another reason to keep fighting - what's the alternative?

  • @waughontheworld6530
    @waughontheworld6530 10 місяців тому +29

    My dad was chief inspector of armaments at the BSA factory in Redditch Worcestershire during the war making Bren guns and Browning machines guns,on several occasions he tried to join the regulars and they sent him back to work as a reserved occupation, he joined the home guard and developed a 4 Browning 30 cal machine gun setup for protection of the BSA, he told me that the one thing that scared him was the thought of being bayoneted, because he was so used to machine gun fire from work he had no fear of being shot, he did special training in defense against bayonet, he got to instructor level and even trained regulars in his time off, after the war he was immediately drafted and was in charge of MP’s as an acting Sargent

  • @royalirish4208
    @royalirish4208 10 місяців тому +10

    My grandfather was a WW1 veteran that fought at the Somme, was a sergeant in the Home Guard and a member of the UVF. My father told me of when he was young watching my grandfather cleaning the Lewis gun at night on the kitchen table before going on patrol. His whole life was dedicated to service even as a old retired man he worked as a lollypop man "crossing guard" at my school. When he passed in his late 80's my father and I had to remove a lot of pistols and rifles and ammunition that he had somehow retained and dispose of them them in the local river.

    • @Concetta20
      @Concetta20 9 місяців тому

      He sounds like he was a really good man. ❤

  • @Stoic-of-Rome
    @Stoic-of-Rome 10 місяців тому +22

    Excellent and very much overdue credit to the home Guard. Thank you.

  • @Free-Bodge79
    @Free-Bodge79 10 місяців тому +8

    When men are protecting their homes and family's. When they are prepared to die to do so . It Isn't anything to belittle. Good bless those that came before us. Our ancestors ! 👍💛👊

  • @philodonoghue3062
    @philodonoghue3062 10 місяців тому +59

    I’ve always been puzzled at derision of the Home Guard considering the large number with Great War service and experience. The picture of Darby and Joan in their living room with Dad polishing his Thompson sub machine gang has got to be a propaganda ‘photo opportunity’ considering - especially after the abandonment of weaponry at Dunkirk - the Army would give its eye teeth for!

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 10 місяців тому +2

      English generals didn’t like sub machine guns
      By the time he got the Thompson the army had Sten guns

  • @steveclarke6257
    @steveclarke6257 10 місяців тому +49

    Simon, just think the "Home Guard" were full of older men who had fought the Germans in 1917-18, so they were not as untrained as people think.
    As far as many of them could see it, if German invaded the proverbial gloves would be off and they would have defended their homes and families with ingenuity and almost certainly ferocious (if probably ultimately futile) defence.
    Remember that most older men at the time were fitter than we are now, as they did a lot of physically manual jobs, so would have been reasonably capable infantry with their WWI training.

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 10 місяців тому +16

      It was members of the home guard who functioned as the adversary forces training the SAS and SBS and other commando groups. The men in these units were all ww1 veterans picked for their bloody minded ferocity and brains, and they routinely beat the hell out of their younger pupils during training. They were all 'Dad's Army' members, often having been turned down for regular service due to age or, and I cannot say this louder MULTIPLE AMPUTATION.
      Dad's Army contained members who were missing one or more limbs who nonetheless ran the nascent British commando units ragged, and kicked their arses into shape. Y'all want to mess with one of them? I know I'd rather stay home in my own country.

    • @dtaylor10chuckufarle
      @dtaylor10chuckufarle 10 місяців тому +6

      I agree. Based on what we now know of the preparations, any German who set foot on British soil would experience a great many unpleasant surprises.

    • @jasonudall8614
      @jasonudall8614 10 місяців тому +12

      I refer you to Sir Terry pratchett. Writing of Coan the barbarian...an 80 year old barbarian
      " The first...the very first thing to remember about old people....they are the ones that survived "

    • @nlwilson4892
      @nlwilson4892 10 місяців тому +3

      What isn't mentioned in this video was that rather a lot of them had fought the fascists in the Spanish Civil War, they were skilled in guerrilla tactics and they trained the Home Guard in those.

  • @sejembalm
    @sejembalm 10 місяців тому +7

    I remember watching episodes of Dad's Army (TV Series 1968-1977) that focused on the Home Guard consisted of local volunteers otherwise ineligible for military service, either because of age (hence the title Dad's Army), medical reasons or by being in professions exempt from conscription. Most of the platoon members in Dad's Army are over military age and the series stars several older British actors, including Arnold Ridley, John Laurie, Arthur Lowe and John Le Mesurier. Clive Dunn played the oldest guardsman, Lance Corporal Jones, who joined the army as a drummer boy in 1884; thereafter, he served in five military campaigns - the Gordon Relief Expedition to the Sudan (1884-1885), the Anglo-Egyptian Reconquest of the Sudan (1896-1899), the Boer War (1899-1901), where after that he was promoted to Lance Corporal, and the First World War (1914-1918). Afterwards, he became a civilian butcher and joined the Home Guard in 1940. In many episodes, Jones fondly recalls his participation in the Battle of Omdurman in the Sudan, facing the "Fuzzy Wuzzies" under the command of General Kitchener. As an aged veteran, he is extremely fond of bayonet warfare ("the cold steel"), and usually meets any queries about this with the assertion that "they don't like it up 'em!"
    - Dad's Army - The Bullet Is Not for Firing ua-cam.com/video/VEtaII6r3Go/v-deo.html

    • @marekohampton8477
      @marekohampton8477 10 місяців тому +1

      He was only in his late 40s - early 50s when he played Corporal Jones too.

    • @sejembalm
      @sejembalm 10 місяців тому

      @@marekohampton8477 Yeah, ironically he was one of the younger actors in the squad, playing one of the most elderly. One of the younger actors in the squad, James Beck (21 February 1929 - 6 August 1973) who played the cockney criminal smuggler, Private Walker, died suddenly of pancreatitis during production of the sixth series in 1973. His birthday was a few days ago. RIP.

  • @chrisdiboll2256
    @chrisdiboll2256 10 місяців тому +13

    It’s easy to forget, with hindsight being 20/20, that these guys probably thought they were going to have to fight the German army with the kit described here. It took brass knackers to join the home guard, and that was about the only thing Britain had in abundance in those days.

  • @FarmerDrew
    @FarmerDrew 10 місяців тому +11

    They shot a tank buster out of a spud cannon and I think all of us Dads can agree that that is a relatable joy

  • @flyin4352
    @flyin4352 10 місяців тому +2

    WW2's affect on England was a large part of the background in my life. An un-exploded bomb from the Blitz was found outside my junior school, a pair of concrete posts that were Anti-tank defences sat beside the road connecting us with the next village over, a concrete pillbox stands right next to the motorway junction that leads to our village and there's a decommissioned railway station just outside the village borders that transported materials to munition factories during the war. As a kid, all of these things (apart from the bomb because that was terrifying) were just random things that made up a part of my village and I had no clue of their history. Things like that are why I love learning about history so much. Tiny little parts of my childhood that meant nothing to me, and yet had such rich stories behind them.

    • @brianthesnail3815
      @brianthesnail3815 Місяць тому

      There is still a tank trap in my town. I walk past it once a week. It looks like a row of concrete blocks on the side of the road where it goes under the railway viaduct. It was designed to funnel the tanks through one arch of the viaduct and into the sights of an antitank gun.

  • @stevewalker2028
    @stevewalker2028 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this fitting tribute. The Home Guard played a vital role, and many of their pillboxes & Auxiliary bunkers remain to remind us. If the invasion had come, they would've fought & died as lions.

  • @steveb1972
    @steveb1972 10 місяців тому +15

    My Maternal Grandfather was in the Home Guard. I have a photo of him in uniform. He was a young man, but was in a reserved occupation.

    • @Evilroco
      @Evilroco 10 місяців тому +2

      We have a great photo of my Great Grandfather (home guard) ,my Grandfather and Great Uncle all 3 in Uniform in the weeks before D Day . My Grandfather (a professional at Dunkirk) had just come back from North Africa and it was the first time the 3 had been together in over 3 years . Sadly my G Uncle Ben lost his left arm in France and it's the last photo of him before his wounding.
      It's worth writing all you know to go alongside such photos for future generations I feel lucky to have grown up knowing veterans of both World wars and hearing some of their stories.

  • @steby123
    @steby123 10 місяців тому +12

    The Smith Gun is very optimized for movement and rapid setup, very well done !!!

  • @JayM409
    @JayM409 10 місяців тому +4

    Peter Flemming (Brother to Ian Flemming, the creator of James Bond), was involved as an intelligence office in the capture of the German plans to invade England. His book on the subject, 'Operation Sea Lion,' is worth the read. Kenneth Macksey has written a fiction book on this hypothetical invasion taking place. 'Invasion: The German Invasion of England, July 1940.'
    My Grand dad was a WWI vet, originally serving with the Calgary Highlanders on the western front. In WWII he rejoined, this time the Canadian Scottish and served in Victoria for 4 years. Too old to go overseas at 46, he was stationed at an officer training school where the University of Victoria is now located. He was released after breaking his hip in a vehicle rollover.

  • @thehangmansdaughter1120
    @thehangmansdaughter1120 10 місяців тому +45

    I was always confused by the image of the home guard. Dad's Army was made up of WWI survivors, those who had seen combat, seen slaughter and lived to tell the tale. They were level headed, capable men, who wouldn't panic, wouldn't shy away. That's exactly who I want watching out for my little town thanks.

    • @duanesamuelson2256
      @duanesamuelson2256 10 місяців тому +4

      Because the regular military always looks down on "milita" military. In the US you got the same thing between NG and RA. It doesn't matter that the NG was made up of 75% combat vets, that they had a unit cohesion from serving together for years or they smoked the equivalent RA units in ARTEP's...

  • @terriwetz6077
    @terriwetz6077 10 місяців тому +15

    I hope there's a day of rememberance in England for the Home Guard. The men and boys serving in that role, willingly putting their lives on the line, deserve to be honored.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 10 місяців тому

      Too white and too much Pro Britain. We are now aiming to be a Post National Country like Canada.

    • @nlwilson4892
      @nlwilson4892 10 місяців тому +1

      All those that served in any of the forces are remembered on 11th November and the nearest Sunday to that date. There isn't a separate one for the Home Guard.

    • @lucylane7397
      @lucylane7397 10 місяців тому

      Why just England

  • @colingibson3921
    @colingibson3921 10 місяців тому +12

    Being bit of a armchair historian, and growing up with the Dad's army TV series. I too just considered it to be a comedy show. However as I got older and better read. I now view the program as alight hearted view of the people of Britain, in a time of dire need. Who came together despite all there short comings ,to defend there home land. Yes some of the episodes were just pure farse . But a lot of the episodes had in some case's grain's of truth.. So I hoped that younger viewer's could take away just how far there grand and great grand parents and there parents were prepared to go to defend there homes.

    • @tempestfennac9687
      @tempestfennac9687 10 місяців тому +2

      I know Jimmy Perry had served in the Home Guard (Pvt. Pike was apparently largely inspired by him and there was an old soldier who had the same mentality towards bayonetes as Lance Corporal Jones in his platoon).

  • @johnbrereton5229
    @johnbrereton5229 10 місяців тому +4

    My grandfather had been a regular soldier serving in India before WWI. After 1914 he returned and fought thoughout it, earning the Military Medal for bravery under fire at the bloody battle of the Somme. During WW2 while his son, my father, served abroad, my grandfather served in the Home Guard. I'm sure if the Germans had invaded he and his comrades would have fought just as hard as they did in the previous war. They were a very special breed, we should all be proud of the country they left us. Unfortunately, politicians have now all but destroyed their legacy to us, their descendants.

  • @davidioanhedges
    @davidioanhedges 10 місяців тому +6

    The Scallywags, were specially trained in guerrilla warfare including assassination, unarmed combat, demolition and sabotage, they were often gamekeepers or poachers, who could live off the land, Royal engineers built hidden underground bunkers to store weapons and explosives and two weeks of food, to hide in during an invasion to allow them to get behind enemy lines, when they would be an autonomous, self sufficient unit that would sabotage anything useful to the enemy, kill as many German soldiers as possible ... they were expected to survive around 12 days ...

  • @raymondmartin6737
    @raymondmartin6737 10 місяців тому +44

    My parents went to London in 1939,
    as the war began in Europe.
    My Father, born 1911, in Germany,
    and my Mother, born 1910 in Zurich,
    met there in 1937, and later my Uncle,
    Father's twin, they both were interned
    in 1940, when France fell, and sent
    for 3 years to Canada, and returned
    in 1943, when my parents married,
    and I was born in May 1944, in London,
    and soon will be 80. Luckily in our
    part of London was not too bombed.
    We came to NYC, in 1949, on the ship Queen Mary, and when we settled down in a NY City suburb, and I started
    school there in 1950. My Uncle came
    over too and married in 1952 and had
    a son and daughter with his wife he
    had met in Europe, being Danish.
    My Mother saw the Battle of Britain
    in 1940, and Queen Elizabeth as a then
    young lady. After the war, WWIi RAF
    pilot, Douglas Bader lived in our apt
    in Park West, London. 😊

  • @GrouchierBear
    @GrouchierBear 10 місяців тому +20

    This makes me want to see Simon cover the Calcutta Light Horse raid on Goa during the second world war. Middle aged reservist blowing up a german freighter in a neutral port.

    • @kepanoid
      @kepanoid 10 місяців тому +5

      Yes, I would like to see Simon's take on that story. Lindybeige covered that very well, though. I tried to post a link to his video, but apparently UA-cam doesn't like links even to itself. You can easily find it, though.

    • @jessicascoullar3737
      @jessicascoullar3737 10 місяців тому +3

      I heard this story from Lindybeige too.

  • @calendarpage
    @calendarpage 10 місяців тому +13

    Over 20 years ago, I used to listen to 'Dad's Army' on BBC radio online while in grad school. Since then, I've also seen videos of the TV show. While I assumed that the real version of Dad's Army was not as incompetent as the entertainment versions, being in the States, I had no idea what they really did. It's amazing to learn how many were willing to do their part and even train with questionable weapons. This video probably won't mean much to people who aren't Brits, but this American found it enlightening.

    • @Concetta20
      @Concetta20 9 місяців тому

      This American also found it entertaining as all I knew about it was also “Dad’s Army”. The only thing we had close to it was air raid wardens.

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss 10 місяців тому +53

    Don't tell him, Pike!

    • @conradgittins4476
      @conradgittins4476 10 місяців тому +2

      Whistle while you work...

    • @duncancurtis5108
      @duncancurtis5108 10 місяців тому

      How dare you compare our glorious leader to that horrid little clown? Your names on the list! What is it?
      Don't tell him, Pike!
      Danke! 😅

    • @EdwardMoffatt
      @EdwardMoffatt 10 місяців тому +1

      I came to the comments only to see this, I was not disappointed.

    • @tempestfennac9687
      @tempestfennac9687 10 місяців тому +1

      @@EdwardMoffatt Now that you're here, you can have a nice word with the Kapitan about getting Pike's name off the list (assuming he survives eating the soggy chips). :P

    • @jonathanwilliams1065
      @jonathanwilliams1065 10 місяців тому

      @@conradgittins4476Hitler is a twerp

  • @TerlinguaSara
    @TerlinguaSara 10 місяців тому +3

    Who wants to start a petition to get Simon to read great speeches on a new channel? I think his speaking voice would be great to hear the full content of some of the greatest speeches ever given!

  • @sa25-svredemption98
    @sa25-svredemption98 9 місяців тому +1

    While Britain's Home Guard was particularly unique in many ways, it is worth mentioning it was not the only Commonwealth nation to have an active Home Guard in the war. Indeed, in Australia there was the Volunteer Defence Corps, whose role was identical to that of the British Home Guard, including the Auxiliary Units (the shock squads of the Home Guard referred to in the video). A lot of people who couldn't join the Australian Imperial Force (AIF, the "regular" army) instead joined the Citizen's Military Forces, or CMF, which saw active combat against Japan in the territories in the north of Australia (today's Papua New Guinea, and the British Protectorate of the Solomon Islands). The CMF was distinct from a Home Guard, however, in that it was a formal part of the Australian Army, and was later amalgamated with other services to form the Army Reserve that exists today. However, the CMF did have many Home Guard characteristics, in that reserved occupations could join, they were focused on national defence (unlike the AIF, they couldn't be deployed away from Australia - the exception being the Pacific Islands, which had a funny sort of status in the Empire at the time), and people otherwise disqualified from military service could join. They also famously participated in the New Guinea Campaign, especially on the infamous Kokoda Track, as frontline troops while AIF units were being recalled to Australia from across the world. New Zealand, likewise, had an organisation actually called the Home Guard to do the same in NZ as it's British equivalent. In the Australian Territory of Papua and New Guinea, the Royal Pacific Regiment was formed along the lines of the CMF, seeing combat alongside CMF, AIF and allied troops. However, other military auxiliaries were also formed in the Islands, such as the famous Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels, a military ambulance auxiliary made up almost exclusively of native Papuans, as well as the Coastwatchers (a type of naval intelligence service, many being executed as spies in Japanese occupied regions - famously, the Coastwatchers were not just Australians, but Dutch, British, Americans, and even expat Germans!).

  • @artrickard4494
    @artrickard4494 10 місяців тому +3

    Dad's army was not making fun of the Home Guard. They were infact honoring them. As was shown in their last show.

  • @nivision
    @nivision 10 місяців тому +4

    As an American I'd never heard about this part of the war before. (I am aware of the shortcomings of our "history" in places like this and do my own research of more international sources but just not this bit.) I don't understand mockery of this, unless it was just that young adult writing off of past gens. To me this is endearing. Under armed and considered not fit for the main fight, but ready and able to defend their home by any means they could think up.

  • @diatonicdelirium1743
    @diatonicdelirium1743 10 місяців тому +3

    "Shoot him uncle Arthur, you've got all the reason!" (Pike showing disdain for air raid warden Hodges)
    We (in Holland) loved this sitcom as ever so British, while still honouring the actual heroism of all the volunteers to help protect the country in their spare time and often with limited means.

  • @OzzieJayne
    @OzzieJayne 10 місяців тому +41

    Australia had a home guard, the Volunteer Defence Corps.

    • @craigquann
      @craigquann 10 місяців тому +4

      I would think Canada's "reserves" would be a similar role as well.

    • @RealShebang
      @RealShebang 10 місяців тому +16

      I'm surprised Australia thought they needed such a thing, you'd figure you could just let the invaders in and let the wildlife take care of it.

    • @craigquann
      @craigquann 10 місяців тому +7

      @@RealShebang Emu militia!

    • @OzzieJayne
      @OzzieJayne 10 місяців тому +2

      @@RealShebang 😆

    • @callumgriss5422
      @callumgriss5422 10 місяців тому

      @@RealShebang Jokes about wildlife aside, you aren't wrong. Any attempted invasion by the nips would be doomed to fail. Australia is fucking massive, consisting of like 90% barren wasteland without the pre-existing infrastructure you see in similar enviroments in the US. Considering tojos non-existent logistics, the rabid dogs would die of dehydration before reaching Alice-Springs. Fanatically charging forward would only worsen their situation.

  • @poncho6784
    @poncho6784 10 місяців тому +3

    Ultimate respect for the Brits bravery, ingenuity and perseverance in WWII. Including the Home Guard.

  • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
    @davidanderson_surrey_bc 10 місяців тому +4

    I like how, early in the war, the "uniform" of the Home Guard consists of a business suit and tie.
    "One simply MUST dress appropriately for the occasion, don't you agree, Private Smedley? We're civilized after all."

  • @itsapittie
    @itsapittie 10 місяців тому +3

    The US supplied a number of M1917 rifles under the lend-lease program which were issued to the Home Guard. These rifles were essentially identical to the British P14 rifle except that they were chambered in caliber .30-06 instead of the standard British caliber .303. They were painted with a wide red stripe around the buttstock to (hopefully) prevent putting the wrong ammunition in them. Most of them were returned to the US after the war and were sold as surplus or distributed through the Civilian Marksmanship Program. Undoubtedly, many of the new owners removed the red paint and original Home Guard M1917s are highly collectible today.

    • @johnthomas2485
      @johnthomas2485 10 місяців тому

      Initially perhaps, but eventually US made rifles were chambered in .303 for issue to British.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 10 місяців тому

      @@johnthomas2485 I may be wrong, but I don't think any M1917s were newly manufactured for lend-lease, hence they would all have been in .30-06. The US had at least tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of M1917s in storage. I very much doubt they would have spun up new manufacturing. Do you have a link or a reference for this information?

    • @johnthomas2485
      @johnthomas2485 10 місяців тому +1

      @@itsapittie Oh the machine guns. I was confusing them with Springfields re chambered and US made Enfields.

    • @sirridesalot6652
      @sirridesalot6652 3 місяці тому

      The Pattern 17 Enfield rifle was 30.06 calibre and the very similar Pattern 14 Enfield rifle was British .303 calibre.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 3 місяці тому

      @@johnthomas2485 Savage made the Enfield No. 4 Mark I* for the British in their standard .303 caliber. I don't know if any other manufacturer did. Interestingly, they were marked "U. S. PROPERTY" on the receivers to indicate they were lend-lease items. I don't know what eventually happened to them and I've never seen one. Like the U.S. made and marked Mosin-Nagant rifles of WW1, I think it's a fascinating tidbit of firearm history.

  • @jasonudall8614
    @jasonudall8614 10 місяців тому +4

    There were " stay behind units"
    These men because they were of fighting age but didn't join up got a lot ..a lot ...of flack from friends and neighbours because they apparently were shirking their duty.
    These men , in secret prepared to be the last line of defense...the Homeguard were used as a cover( in parliamentary accounts) for the resourses directed to theses units.
    The dads army show..has been accused over the years as poking fun at the homeguard..where as the two writer's were more than affectionate to the HG..
    If fun was made, it was made of the characters of that particular unit.
    On the last episode the cast raised a glass to the real "home guard".

    • @marekohampton8477
      @marekohampton8477 10 місяців тому

      Jimmy Perry, one of the writers, was actually in the Home Guard until he was called up for Army service. He based the character of Pike on himself.

  • @AstroEssexGirl
    @AstroEssexGirl 10 місяців тому +4

    My grandad was part of the home guard in East London. I still have his state issued police whistle. He told me stories of helping at bomb sites and doing the air raid sirens.

  • @mattiemathis9549
    @mattiemathis9549 10 місяців тому +4

    I have had the privilege of meeting UK men and women of that era. I may joke on my cousins, but those men and women were ready to defend their island with a damn spoon if need be. And although my blood is not from Britain, being American I kinda feel a kindred spirit.
    And honestly, it seems I had to wait for the last two minutes before those folks sacrifice was mentioned. A little disappointed with this.

  • @skwervin1
    @skwervin1 10 місяців тому +3

    Another thing is that soldiers in the field would know that their homes were still being guarded while they were away at the front fighting the main war. This would boost the morale of the soldier fighting hundreds or thousands of miles away. They could fight knowing their home, wife, child were still safe, imagine if however there wasn't a homeguard.... the soldier in the field would be torn by do I stay and fight here or do I go AWOL and go home to keep my family safe? Having the home guard would allow more men to sign up, they would not be needed at home per se but could go forth and get the job done.

  • @RichDenman
    @RichDenman 10 місяців тому +5

    They feature in the (underrated) Disney film "Bedknobs and Broomsticks".

  • @jonburgess3614
    @jonburgess3614 10 місяців тому +1

    The idea of a 40 gallon drum dug into a road side bank was a useful concept. It’s contents weren’t just petrol. Diesel, waste oil and oil based paint were to be used. The contents propelled by the charge ignited the fuel mixture which became very sticky, an early form of napalm. Any enemy vehicles attacked by this weapon would be disabled and infantry were in for a a nasty shock, serious injury or horrific death.

  • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
    @davidanderson_surrey_bc 10 місяців тому +1

    The irony of Germany attempting an amphibious invasion of Britain is that the island would have been viciously and unwaveringly defended by the descendants of at least a dozen previous invasion forces.
    Other than the Spanish Armada of 1588, I cannot off-hand think of another invasion force that failed to take at least part of Britain.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus 10 місяців тому +3

    "They don't like it up 'em, sir......"
    "*Stupid* boy..... "
    I always loved Private Fraser's "ghost stories"! Nothing like a Scottish accent to make things scary!

  • @stillnotsure5902
    @stillnotsure5902 10 місяців тому +2

    Always interested (if a little apprehensive about the prodigious output and ubiquity of just one man), I literally find myself breathless trying to listen and comprehend at the frenetic pace of your speech! Please, slow it down just a little!!

  • @Lord_Ronin_The_Compassionate
    @Lord_Ronin_The_Compassionate 10 місяців тому +2

    LDV aka “Look, Duck and Vanish”. Thank G-d it was changed to the Home Guard. Both grandfathers were survivors of WW1 so they joined despite their relatively recent experience of the horrors of trench warfare. By the time WW2 came around my father was a pilot in the RAF whilst his brother was in the BEF (got cold and wet leaving France, then repeated it on D-day. He never even paddled in the sea whilst on holiday).
    Not one to really understand how awful their combined experiences were I was daft enough to spend 28 years as a Royal, retiring in 2006.

  • @CartoonHero1986
    @CartoonHero1986 10 місяців тому +1

    I would guess the idea of the Home Guard to someone like Churchill (or his advisers)was seen for what it was by them. A way to prevent people at home giving up on the war even if they are guaranteed to lose if you give people the impression they are fighting for something even in a losing situation fewer of the people will realise they can't win and will continue to aid the war effort. This prevents things like your munitions and other war factories losing too many personnel or having production slow to dangerous levels due to poor morale.

  • @hondolane3125
    @hondolane3125 10 місяців тому +4

    "... a four-legged tripod ..." Wait, wouldn't that make it a "quadpod"?

  • @daniellediller5070
    @daniellediller5070 9 місяців тому +1

    "who's standing firm in our own front yard!? The soldier of the old home guard that's who!!"🎵🎶

  • @vidiotsyndrome
    @vidiotsyndrome 10 місяців тому +4

    So... This is the division of troops that was marching through the town in the beginning of Disney's "Bedknobs & Broomsticks" ? I always was kinda wondering why the men sang THAT lyric on their marching song in the movie....
    "We're soldiers of the old Home Guard!!!....". 😊😊❤

  • @gordonlumbert9861
    @gordonlumbert9861 10 місяців тому +3

    The Smith Gun actually has a model in 1/72 scale made by the ACE model company. Dad's Army actually shows one a few times. As time goes on equipment improves as the war goes on and the "Dad's Army" tv show reflects this.

  • @ScienceChap
    @ScienceChap 10 місяців тому +3

    Don't forget that a lot of the Home Guard's personnel were actually veterans of WW1. You might remember that they were actually experienced soldiers who had defeated the German Army in WW1 and hated the Germans with a passion.

  • @aleksandergruchot9803
    @aleksandergruchot9803 10 місяців тому +6

    Four legged tripod was the best part ;-)

  • @markdavids2511
    @markdavids2511 10 місяців тому +3

    These men were ww1 vets & would of fought to the last man.

  • @peng1luver259
    @peng1luver259 10 місяців тому +3

    Shovels and giant caltrops can stop tanks. Dig the earth, make pitfalls and use the giant calttops for the harder to dig earth to guide the tank into pitfalls.

  • @robertbrowning7556
    @robertbrowning7556 10 місяців тому +1

    My grand father told us that when a German recon plane was spotted coming in, they would sometimes scramble and set up in the open so the Germans got plenty of pictures of military movement on the ground. Gave the impression the British army was much larger than the Germans thought at the time..... It was used again, with inflatable tanks and trucks to convince the Nazis of an invasion at the Pas de Calais.... Which also worked to decoy the Nazis during the weeks before and after D-Day.
    Wonder if that helped lead to the postponement and eventual canceling of the Operation Sea Lion by the Germans, in conjunction with the RAF's outstanding defense of Britain, and the Royal Navy maintaining a very visible presence.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 10 місяців тому +2

    Male members were rewarded with a certificate, bearing the words: "In the years when our Country was in mortal danger, (name) who served (dates) gave generously of his time and powers to make himself ready for her defence by force of arms and with his life if need be. George R.I." If he had served more than three years and requested it, a member would be awarded the Defence Medal. It was only in 1945 that women who had helped as auxiliaries were recognised with their own certificate.

  • @rcrawford42
    @rcrawford42 10 місяців тому +3

    I've heard the plates-in-the-road trick before, but that source said it came from Czechoslovakia.
    And it was used against invading aliens.

  • @LouisaWatt
    @LouisaWatt 10 місяців тому +1

    My grandfather was part of the dad’s army. He had been a soldier in the 1920’s when Britain occupied Israel but was never the right age during either war.

  • @MosquitoValentineNH
    @MosquitoValentineNH 3 місяці тому +1

    No one knew the British people or the enemy they faced like Winston Churchill. He never underestimated the enemy OR his own people. He had a unique understanding of the importance of morale and duty and knew how to instill it in his countryman like no other.

  • @milo9427
    @milo9427 7 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic ending quote.

  • @duncancurtis5108
    @duncancurtis5108 10 місяців тому +3

    Private Pike, the last of Walmington Platoon.❤

  • @TheRealRedRooster
    @TheRealRedRooster 10 місяців тому +4

    Well, "Dad's Army" was a really funny TV show (the 2016 movie was a farce), in the long standing tradition of taking a piss out of them themselves, similar to series like "It ain't half hot mum" and the later Blackadder skits. Or Fawlty Towers (just don't mention the war ;-) )

    • @randomname4726
      @randomname4726 10 місяців тому

      I just realized I had it ain't half hot mum and dad's army conjoined in my memory.

    • @TheRealRedRooster
      @TheRealRedRooster 10 місяців тому

      @@randomname4726I think "It ain't half hot mum" was several years later than "Dad's army"...

  • @Beemer917
    @Beemer917 10 місяців тому +2

    250 m is actually pretty damn far. You would be hard put to find that projector weapon in a bush at 250. I think they would have been brutally effective.

  • @michaelcarpenter1917
    @michaelcarpenter1917 10 місяців тому +4

    You might have mentioned that the American members of the National Rifle Association donated 70,000 guns to the Home Guard after a request was published in the NRA monthly. magazine.

    • @MosquitoValentineNH
      @MosquitoValentineNH 3 місяці тому +1

      That’s amazing and doesn’t surprise me in the least! 🙌

  • @Adrian-vd6ji
    @Adrian-vd6ji 10 місяців тому +10

    those old guys would have went out swinging

    • @Adrian-vd6ji
      @Adrian-vd6ji 10 місяців тому

      and i dont mean dancing...hyuk hyuk hyuk

  • @notesfromthebunker6250
    @notesfromthebunker6250 10 місяців тому +10

    Its worth noting that the Brits appealed to Americans to send their own personal pistols, rifles, binoculars, and other gear to "defend a British home". And American citizens stepped up and did just that. Then at the end of the war, the British government disarmed their citizens and destroyed the donated arms.

  • @stuart8663
    @stuart8663 10 місяців тому

    Just wanted to thank you deeply for your honest overview of the Home Guard - and not a mocking laugh-fest of men whose attitude was to protect their own piece of the kingdom.

  • @pmgn8444
    @pmgn8444 10 місяців тому +3

    Well done and written. Good job Gilles Messier! And Fact Boi did a good job reading the script, too!

  • @duanesamuelson2256
    @duanesamuelson2256 10 місяців тому +1

    That barrel of fuel is almost exactly what we were taught (and made) in improvised weapons and tactics. Used a block of C4..the fuel was napalm (made in the barrel)
    Good ideas live on

  • @josevarela3913
    @josevarela3913 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent historical information you were very articulate however, you must slow down a little bit. Thank you.

  • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
    @davidanderson_surrey_bc 10 місяців тому +1

    "You're not giving us guns?! We're going to revolt!!"
    "Oh? With what, exactly?"

  • @GaudiaCertaminisGaming
    @GaudiaCertaminisGaming 10 місяців тому +1

    You can see old pillboxes all over East Anglia usually covering a crossroad or river crossing.

    • @michaelw2288
      @michaelw2288 10 місяців тому +1

      Pillboxes were part of a series of long Stop Lines crossing the country. As one Stop Line fell to an invading enemy, the regular army would regroup at the next Stop Line. Home Guard and Auxilliary Units would delay the enemy advance as long as possible.
      Pillboxes are strategically placed to cover bridges, valleys and other avenues of movement.

  • @Evilroco
    @Evilroco 10 місяців тому +1

    So a "4 legged tripod" ......didn't that register as you said it ?
    Great to see so much of the photographic record of the HG

  • @CarlDalach-px4cj
    @CarlDalach-px4cj 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Simon I never knew any of this.

  • @browserrr1
    @browserrr1 10 місяців тому +1

    And as everybody old enough to have seen most of the Dad's Army episodes, the Smith Gun was also very capable at shooting onions.

  • @markspencer3612
    @markspencer3612 10 місяців тому +4

    The home guard would have more likely used P-14 rifles rather than M-17s , same rifle but in .303 British instead of 30-06 .

  • @minxythemerciless
    @minxythemerciless 10 місяців тому +1

    Not really on topic but congrats to Simon Whistler for saying the SI correct "keelogram" rather than the usual and wrong "killogram"

  • @paulmacready6757
    @paulmacready6757 10 місяців тому +4

    I loved the four legged tripod to, something interesting about me. I’m a two legged monopod 😂😂😂

  • @steveholmes11
    @steveholmes11 9 місяців тому

    Fascinating. I'd love to see another episode about the auxiliary "scallywags".

  • @borja1000
    @borja1000 10 місяців тому +1

    Great topic! Loved it!

  • @edwardloomis887
    @edwardloomis887 10 місяців тому

    Fougasse summarized at 8:50 was a weapon taught to me in the late 1970s or early 1980s, possibly as a result of leaders' Vietnam experiences where improvised weapons took their toll.

  • @chrisknight6884
    @chrisknight6884 10 місяців тому +1

    Popular wit insisted the LDV stood for Look, Duck, and Vanish ..... the better nomenclature of Home Guard was then used to prevent much of this sarcasm.

  • @AshGTE
    @AshGTE 10 місяців тому +1

    My Grandad used to tell me stories of the Holman projector. He was aboard Royal Navy Corvettes during WW2.
    He said they were absolutely......
    useless and more of a danger to those operating them or on deck. 360° frag.
    They did use them, but you had to be very desperate!

  • @thekeytoairpower
    @thekeytoairpower 10 місяців тому +1

    The #68 reminds me of the EFPs that were tearing us up starting in about 2008

  • @kingcockroach.
    @kingcockroach. 10 місяців тому +2

    There are standing bunkers where i live still, ive been inside one and it was so small it was crazy. I live in a town that would have been on the bombing/invasion list

  • @lesklower7281
    @lesklower7281 10 місяців тому +2

    Australia had a home guard my father was in it he couldn't serve in the regular army because he wore glasses but he did serve in the Australian home guard more than likely based on the British home guard

  • @Coni2009
    @Coni2009 10 місяців тому +2

    If you want a really interesting story you should cover the Auxiliaries or even more serious Section 7. Shows just how ruthless the wartime government approached the prospect of invasion. Still pretty secret even today - especially Section 7.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 10 місяців тому +4

    Love your content 😊😊😊❤❤

  • @mashbury
    @mashbury 9 місяців тому

    Sadly the HG image was not improved by the television series “Dads Army “ although the intent of the series was not to denigrate the organisation and several of the cast as well as the writers where HG members . I think a force of over 1.4 men and women might have made a difference in the early days even with the poor equipment available and by 1942 onwards it was a considerable force to be reckoned with.

  • @tallthinkev
    @tallthinkev 9 місяців тому

    Two of my great uncles were in the Home Guard, different platoons, but both said 'Everything you see on Dad's Army, is true'!

  • @TesterAnimal1
    @TesterAnimal1 6 місяців тому

    There’s a great UA-cam video series covering the cast of the TV sitcom Dad’s Army.
    The actors were themselves war heroes, so they knew exactly what they were doing.
    I recommend you search those videos up. They are very enlightening.

  • @CxMinette
    @CxMinette 10 місяців тому

    My grandfather was a Boy Scout during the war, and his troop played Germans during Home Guard training. Apparently, he thought it was great fun!

  • @arnowisp6244
    @arnowisp6244 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey. Some of those Improved Anti tank flame Weapons could be done in WW1 as well...