What the New War Within Trailer Reveals About The World Soul Saga
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- World of Warcraft: The War Within has a new cineamtic trailer featuring Xal'atath, the new Earthen Dwarfs allied race, and - through featuring Faerin Lothar and the Orwenya so heavily - very heavily hinting at Arathi half elf and Harronir playable options in the new WoW expansion. Taliesin and Evitel look at the new trailer and uncover the secrets within
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If Xal is not a void agent/god/power, then she is for sure the dark side of Elune. Her dark half that was discarded by Elune in order to ascend to godhood. Classic mortal to god ascension story. Xal calls her an upstart goddess with disdain in her voice. Remember how the night warrior looks (has cosmic void tattoos all over).
I like the cut of your gib.
She's definitely not "the dark side of Elune"
Let me throw something out there:
Earthen: order (arcane)
Arathi: light (holy)
Hronir: life (nautre)
Xal’atath: void (shadow)
So all but fel (we kinda stopped that) and death (also stopped that) are represented in the trailer, who are right now in the race for the worldsoul.
Interesting. That's a good point
Yes, it's like a race for what cosmic will take world soul. Disorder has been long netraulized by Titans until Sargeras order it and form Burning Legion, now the group just disband; Death is kind of weak in physical pressent compare to other cosmic force but Zovaal has another plan to approach the World Soul by using Zereth Mortis aka Power core of Death plane ( each cosmic has a Zereth) empowerd by Azeroth battery to alter reality ( kind of overload and fill the core with Domination Magic then create avalanche to other Zereth ) to win the battle from the very heart of each cosmic force ( I think that quite good ideal, if Blizz don't butcher the Baldy, it may not bad for his master plan😅), but it fail now. So just Order, Life, Light and Void in the race now
Maybe Xal'atath was like Elune and loved Azeroth before the Titans came and imprisoned our World Soul. Shortly after that N'zoth consensually trapped Xal'atath in the blade for use in some later plans. She's playing a very long revenge game, same as Iridikron.
If that is the case then who and what was she before then? That would also mean he had to do it before the war if he was the first one taken down by the others. Then again we still dont have that story
@@elreytriton well she's void adjacent but we still don't really know anything about the void.
We know how old gods and their minions work. Old gods are powerful psychic monsters that can also create life by breaking off pieces of themselves (the N'raqi, faceless ones) and they can also elevate corrupt and evolve other life forms (humans, Aqir, Dwarves, etc.). They can also enslave them like the elementals without actually changing anything physically or mentally about them as well.
But with the void all we know is there are void lords, some Naaru have become void lords, void walkers are tanky warlock pets that do not willingly work for the burning legion, and the void lords made the old gods and flung them across the universe, the void can corrupt beings (just like old gods can) but in a little bit different way (like making void fauna that still function like normal animals, but voidy), and one notable situation involved them consuming an entire planet which somehow did not kill the people that lived there but made them Ethereals instead (some of whom also became void corrupted)
So either Xalatath falls into one of the things listed in these two paragraphs (piece of an old god for example was a theory posited by the game itself) or she falls into the category of things we still dont know about.
She states she was imprisoned, it wasn't consensual
So since all the fighting over Azeroth has led to tha World Soul being exposed to basically every cosmic force out there, and we have all but established that World Souls follow Eevee rules of evolution, that means our World Soul is basically gonna be the Med'an of cosmic biggies, right?
I love the Eevee comparison 😂
I am so glad you mentioned Claudia Christian, voice actress of Xal and I believe Lady Liadrin. She is so good. Fun fact, she was a regular actress on the old TV 90s Sci-Fi series "Babylon 5" as Susan Ivoniva.
That's awesome! Loved that show as a kid and was really bummed when she left towards the end.
Holy crap that's her! I still rewatch that show every couple of years and love her!
I more believed that the Old Gods rebelled against Xalathath, wanting Azeroth for themselves, and captured her in the dagger, preventing her from communicating back to the Void and preventing her from claiming the World Soul back way then.
what about the giant enormous tree in pandaria, its as big as a world tree and is corrupted by old gods, and just so happens to be where one was, and one world tree was ripped out by ammonthul just like he ripped a old god out.
So the way I see it is that the remaining major cosmic powers are all going to be fighting over the world soul in this expansion and future expansions.
Earthen - Titans
Harronir - Life
Arathi - Light
Xal'Atath/Nerubians - Void
I suppose you could also say they Sargeras' Sword also represents the Fel but I don't think we're going to see any more out of the realms of Fel/Disorder and Death.
Im so glad i discovered you guys back in Legion, because your consistent joy over new WoW stuff mirrors my own, and that makes me happy. lol
And also you're a normal, not insane person on Twitter, which was a relief.
In addition to the phases of the moon/eclipse vibes, cosmic cycles and orbits, I think the orbs at the end are also meant to evoke an imagery of EMDR, or even classic brainwashing techniques like we saw in Avatar when they got Jet in Ba-Sing-Se.
Xalatath is a tricky, psychic villain so using this sort of magic is a perfect fit.
I think their might be something telling about how the whole sum up of history was actually really positive toward all the life and heroes. Xalatath likes us I think lol
I'm starting to wonder if maybe all of the titans efforts on azeroth were just to protect the world soul and ma,e sure it wasn't corrupted. Not so much in that they were trying to claim it for themselves, or make it a titan, but just to counteract and prevent corruption.
The orb scene.
"There is no War Within Ba Sing Se"
There is part where world soul makes dragon roar. Its clevery cut into DF footage but it looks like world soul have anything to do with zereth mortis and some sort of draconic stuff in there.
Pyromancer theory is bad
Super crazy theory...Xal is actually the "Blue Child" and she finally gets to be among the mortals. 😅
My guess is she's a courier, a messager sent by the void to Azeroth to supervise world soul's corruption, but was betrayed by old gods already existed, whom enjoyed power a little bit too much that started fighting among themselves. N'zoth probably freed her in exchange for an immunity from the void.
But why is there such emphasis on the magic connected to movement when showing the Harronir? Could they be a mid-expansion race that also introduces a Dancer class a la Augmentation?
The idea of Xal being Azerothian is interesting. It makes me wonder if she is a "champion" like our characters, but from the Black Empire days as opposed to the TItan days our characters come from.
Why nobody noticed this trailer was flipped? Xalatath is smirking to the other side and the Faerin's shield is on the wrong side too.
Reminds me of Kael'thas' blood mage orb. We never got blood mages class/specc but maybe future void?
My theory is that when Azeroth wakes up cause of all the forces fighting over her and putting their energy in her that she will have aspects of all of them and be balanced and none of them get what they want. That or she will wake up without being influenced by any of them.
Maybe Xal'atath is the Void incarnate, something beyond Void lords, Void gods, or the Old gods. Maybe she's got all eternity to wait for Azeroth's soul. Maybe this really is Azeroth's true Apocalypse between the Light and the Void.
Xal'atath is the wife of Locus Walker, the one that helped destroy their world.
One reason why Faerin might look diabloish, I'm pretty sure they used Prava's model from D4.
Learning that Claudia Christian is voicing Xal'atath may have just decided whether Im re-subbing for this expac or not.
I think there might be a link between Xal and Elune tbh
What I noticed is that all the cosmic seem to be at play in this expansion trying to claim the world soul :
- Shadow obviously with Xalatath
- Titan/order with the earthens
- Life with the Haronirs
- Light with the cristal and Hallowfall
- Fell with the sword
- Death... well the jailer tried in shadowlands not so long ago and should be out of play... at least for now.
It's a question about who went rogue, I suppose. Did Xal'atath overstep her role to the Old Gods, and get punished for trying to claim what they were fighting over? Or did she serve the cause of the Void faithfully, and the Old Gods wanted to do their own thing? On the one hand, she always betrays her masters. But, if the Old Gods had worked together to corrupt Azeroth, rather than fight for dominance, they'd have succeeded before the Titans arrived. So were they actions against the Void's will... Or did Xal'atath play them against each other?
What If.. All the forces of the universe COMBINE inside Azeroth?! And she becomes something New, something More?!?!
They didn't give us Walrus boys when they had so much data already to make them. Why would we get these!
Xal is analogus to Silver Surfer in respect to VLD/Galactus. But she has been turned into a real solid overarching character
Woke Within will be great expansion!
i listened to te voiceother of Xal in many language versions, some are REALLY bad, the english one is ..just mediocre to be honest... but the Italian one was SOOOO GOOD, u can feel the emotion and the intent just in her voice even if u would not speak the language and understand a word
Unpopular Opinion: Id rather Xalatath survive and be the final antagonist of The Last Titan. The last boss of The War Within should be Iridikron, her otherwise partner in Dragonflight.
Like the Earthen, Iridikron thematically fits the theme as the end boss of the underground expansion, Incarnate of Earth and all that.
I think playable Harronir is essentially confirmed. I could see them doing Harronir + Arathi as a package addition in 11.0.5 or 11.1.
I could also see whichever side gets Arathi crying on the forums about how blizz hates whatever their faction is.
Harronir will be cross faction, Arathi/Halfelf will just be additional cosmetic options for void elves, humans, kul tirans, blood elves
@@jamesn3122 Maybe. That's certainly no guarantee, though. And there'd definitely be people upset by that, too -- same crowd as still wants a character creation option labeled "High Elf."
People would cry that they want to be a "real Arathi," not just a Stormwind or Kul'Tiran human with pointy ears.
what if xalatath is karesh or someone from there
Her eyes look like an eclipse.
Don't make fun of shippers :(
It means Asmongold lives rent free in this dude's head
He doesn’t know you and neither does asmongold. Why r u defending lmao stay mad
The Warcraft lore and story needs to get humbled. An opportunity to have a great reset; back to the Stone Age. The world and heroes get wiped out in whatever fashion. Survivors are forced into exile and after decades begin to rebuild from scratch. The surviving heroes have to pass down knowledge and skills down to a new generation of heroes. That’s their opportunity to have “wow2”. New story, new beginnings, new characters. Have the avengers endgame idea of wiping everything out and starting over.
Beast of primordial horror is Deathwing? The Lich King a Tyrant? Dang, that clips do not match the words lol
By Dorn, some wow fans are thicker than the walls he built. Yes, I am critical as this stuff is targeted at me to return. Enjoy the siren song of little effort.
Tyrant: a cruel and oppressive ruler.
how so? i thought they were pretty apt
How is that not fitting? Theres no title more befitting than Tyrant for the Lich King lol
@@keithb6344 Garrosh...... Lei Shen...... no the magical guy raising the dead which only a few have any level of personality. The term more suitable would be puppet master.
@@whipsybask The Aspects are being pf primordial horror? 😂
Getting Na'vi vibes from the Harronir.
So Xalatath's plan was to have the Jailer think it was his plan all along
I don't think it's so much Xalatath had a plan per se, but more she waited, watched, and chose a time to strike in response to everyone else's failed plans.
That was my thought too
Blizzard’s plan was to make us think that Xalatath’s plan was to have the jailer think it was his plan all along
There was no "plan" other than to corrupt the world soul which has been known since WotLK at the latest.
What I find most awesome is if you watch the original WoW trailer, the voice over sounds to me like the exact same person on this trailer, which is Xalatath, suggesting she has always been around since the beginning. So very awesome
Isn't the original voiceover Tyrande? (sources: i feel like ive always known this for some reason)
@@synmad3638 there was an argument in the trailer comments about this after a similar comment to OCs. Some said Tyrande, others said Maiev. (I have no idea what the true answer is.)
@@synmad3638 the original VA in WoW cinematic sounds more like maiev without sounding to angry/harsh , nevertheless the original does sound very different from the new one with xalatath
I really love the way the dwarf looks in the cinamatic. His beard looks like it's made of copper wire.
I've been skeptical of the Earthen since their announcement, but there's no denying how cool this one looks in the cinematic
In the beta it reveals that the earthen's hair IS actually wire!
That's sick!
Drug addicts in my city would be chasing him like kids chasing the Lucky Charms mascot.
their hair is wire, which is SO cool! i was kinda hoping they’d look more like the guys in northrend at first but im LOVING the look they have rn.
I like to imagine the jailer was too proud to admit he jumped onto ideal circumstance, so he lied and is parading about it being “all according to plan” and completely his doing. Compare that to Xal’atath who was the definition of waiting and watching until the perfect, ideal moment to strike, no matter how long it took just as long as it happens.
You say "just as planned" more then once it just comes off as "flailing around?"
To the person that said "they're humans with elf ears", all elves are humans with elf ears /j
“The drums of war thunder once again” is a maiev line from the original trailer! Missed that the first time
I think the earthen starting the war within bit is also a callback to the start of the video where it opens with the regular dwarf. And Night Elf and Harronir that comes after (but that's not quite mirrored since Faerin Lothar is there in between).
Xal'atath playing 4-d chess while Jailer playing checkers on a tic-tac-toe board
the orbs remind me of the lights in avatar. "There is no void in ba sing se"
xalatath is another world soul that's looking for a partner to make world babies.
Her orbs look like a world soul is potentially corrupted since it's darker and more void looking in the center
Or she is collecting world souls and need a third one
Locus walker was 100% the harbinger of his world but has come to regret it seemingly.
Earthen = Titans / order
Arathi = Light
Haronir= Life
Xalatath = Void
The only powers from the cosmology chart left, fighting for the world soul.
The rest are defeated
Sargeras = Fel / disorder. He’s imprisoned and the legion are no longer a threat.
Jailer = Death / Necromancy. Also defeated and forces contained
I think it's also neat that it shows the races in order of how deep down we go. First the earthen at and just under the surface, then the Arathi a bit deeper, then the Harronir near the bottom, and then Xal'atath at the center.
What if Xal'atath is azeroth sister. Xal'atath rule the void, and want to rule with her sister, but the titan are trying to turn azeroth is the light, and have her fight again her sister. 2 ex. Azeroth and Xal'atath teams with Iridikron to fight again the titan.
Shadowlands is hot garbage but that trailer of the sky shattering still gives me chills.
my first thought was "is blizzard implying that Xal'athat is the narrator for the first WoW cinematic????"
Psh… everyone knows Anduin’s going to end up Wrathion 🏳️🌈😍
The Old Gods are the Old Ones.
The Void Lords are the Outer Gods.
Xal'atath is Nyarlathotep, imo.
Now I know why Taliesin has a crush on Xalatath. She looks exactly like Evitel 😁
Rhea Ripley is WoWs new goth mommy and I’m for it
Claudia has come a long way since her Babylon 5 days. She had the occasional monologue there, too. I'm looking forward to much more Xal'atath in the coming years.
Xal is 100% our BBEG for the next 3 expacs. We are going to see her machinations pan out. TWW is setup, then in the next espc she gets her "empire strikes back" moment, and we get our "avenger's endgame" in the third. She isn't a god, she is here to put the gods in their place and take the power for herself. Metzen is a DND guy, so I imagine they could mirror Vecna and his ascent to godhood for her.
I mean thusfar Earthen have got a lot more time in cinematics for their introductory expansion than Worgen did, let me tell ya.
vid ended too early. didn't get to hear what y'all were doing for dinner.
The reason Xal'atath works better as a full- on villain than Sylvanas is the former was a mystery from the start, and had a connection to the player during Legion, with a sexy voice and interesting lore hints, with a sexy model added later. The latter was a popular faction leader who got butchered for the sake of a faction war nobody wanted, and later became the poster girl for the worst expansion ever.
Sacrificing herself and dying at the hands of Arthas at the end of Wrath of the Lich King would have been the best ending for Sylvanas. Starting from Edge of Night, her story had really started to become stupid.
xal is 100% a goddess of the moon just like elune but on the dark side rather than of the light. there's a REASON they've put so many lunar eclipse motifs into not just HER EYES but now even the very orbiting eclipses here...
and nothing has been 'watching' azeroth longer than the very moons that orbit her. wouldn't be surprised if the phases of the moon acted as mirrors for zereth umbra/lumen to see azeroth and interact with inhabitants--albeit limited, just like Elune's interactions.
They've been leading up to Elune for so long to the point where Tyrande was a vessel (kinda like the corpse currently hosting xal, ay?) there's no way they dropped that whole thread. They're just indirectly telling us what she is--by exploring xal's parallel.
Cool as it might be, we don't usually get introduced to that much *new* information about characters in the 2.5D animations- they're usually a recap of the past we already knew about characters first, and new information 2nd, or a new perspective on things we already knew in the broad strokes.
I know Jaina's Warbringers introduced the psychological Ghost Galleon, but it was *primarily* a way to explore everything that lead Jaina to where she began BFA, and to bring in new context about Kul Tiras around that- including that the Kul Tiras wrote a Sea Shantie about how much they hate her now!
Azhara's Warbringers was great, but it was mostly a new look at things we'd already known the broad strokes of- how she and her subjects became the Naga in the wake of the War of the Ancients and the Sundering.
Even Sylvanas' Warbringers, which, you know, included the moment where she burns Teldrassil, was *mostly* a Recap of Sylvanas' past and how she became the Banshee Queen.
Khadgar and Gul'Dan's Harbingers shorts were mostly recaps of backstory we knew, I thought, but they were good ways to recap where the characters were at, and where they began that expansion.
Shadowlands shorts like Maldraxus and Bastion still did a lot of recapping of who Draka and Uther were in life before they showed us who they became in the Shadowlands, but Dragonflight went right back to form by exploring something we knew about, just not the details- the moment Neltharion fell from grace.
The 2.5D animations are primarily *recap*, and I don't feel like we know enough about Xalatath for her to get a recap short.
I think Xal'atath is the bit of N'zoth saved of himself. As we went back to the Black Empire during the Bronze Flight questline, N'zoth saw us, and 'what we would become', and it was strongly implied he now would make a fail-safe of some form. I think Xal is that failsafe, and that she is a bit of either just N'zoth, or of each Old God put into the dagger. This would explain the 'denied me for so long' part, as well as her shaky relations with N'zoth. N'zoth, so long as he is around, wouldn't want a small part of himself running about freely, since he is plotting bastard and knows that about himself, so he only unleashes her during BfA, cause he knows his form is about to die. So, in that sense, that would be why she is known as the Harbinger. She harbinges the return of the Old Gods. If she is a bit of each Old God, she could even be a return of the most powerful Old God, Y'shraarj.
Wonder if we will help Azeroth choose which archetypal force (light, feel, arcane, etc) she will identify with. Perhaps she will choose to be one, or a combination of them. Maybe…all of them? Maybe she will chose one we don’t particularly like. Would be cool if the player could “choose” which she chooses, but impossible to implement that in game. Maybe the final raid is us fighting back the forces she does not want from reaching her.
Ok I’ll stop now.
I think it'd be cool if Xal'atath was a denizen of the Void that was trying to become a Void Lord by claiming Azeroth.
I also think World souls are maybe kind of sentient power sources that can be used to create whatever type of life whomever claims it desires(Titans, demons, shadow constructs, etc.). And since we know the world soul in Azeroth is an exceptionally powerful one it makes sense to me that everyone would want to claim it and it might be powerful enough for Xal'atath to use it to become a Void Lord and perhaps even overpower the other Void Lords.
I THINK that the arathi customization option will be available at some point, for humans and kul'thirans, with round ears the elf option, and I HOPE the harronir or whatever they are called will be a new playable race. But like pandas and evokers and earthen, for both factions.
The World Soul is encased in the CRYSTAL and its not a NARU. Geez why dont yall think azirite looks like the damn crystal, the colors give it away. Thats what Sargeras was aiming at and missed
Sylvanas is one of my favourite WoW characters, and I am so sad that they couldn't do with her what they did with Xal'atath and Jaina in BFA... Still upset even after all these years, the sheer badassery, charisma, and hype of Lady X is bittersweet. :(
Azeroth is like a stem cell awaiting instruction.
But are we even so sure that Xal’atath is a villain? I don’t know if I believe she is. I heard a theory that sounds very plausible that makes me think she actually is trying to save the worldsoul. She was PUT in the dagger by the old god N’zoth, to stop her from doing something he didn’t want her to do. And they wanted to destroy Azeroth.
Anduin is not going to have her as a love interest, he is royalty in a midevil fantasy setting... he will marry a secret 1st cousin and make us all as uncomfortable as a human parent walking into Tauren Cheese shop with a female propieter and our child asking "Is this ALL yours!" aloud.
I really loved the trailer for shadowlands. The way Sylvanus screams and her eyes go and all the smoke and the explosion of the sky! Still gives me chills. Good and bad lol 50% woah, 50% man the story was a fart.
I kinda wonder if that (Hair-rear-near) is what the primal humanoids looked like. lol Kinda looks like a troll and a night elf. I know trolls were like the first human like thing on the planet and they evolved into night elf i wonder if this one was just like "Mid way through changing was like ya i'm out!"
I don't mean this to sound offensive in anyway but the shocker for me is that Xalatath's voice actress is the same as the norn female character's in GW2. Not sure if it's a recording issue or perhaps maybe she was sick back in the early days of that game but the norn female VA was... questionable. Amazes me the shear difference between the 2.
X'als, she has passed the stage of the most beautiful goddess of all other women wow:-))) from my personal opinion
It's interesting that the only other person speaking in the trailer is Grommash (?) "we will never be slaves", significant or just a coincidence?
It's not just Evitel that was noncommittal with them being new playable races. Intertwining them in imagery without any official statements seems like Blizz being noncommittal and just testing the waters for interest.
WTF Claudia Christian? as in B5 Cmdr. Susan Ivanova? Dude, now I know why I love that voice.
What if the Harronir/Arathi are cross faction customization for humans/blood elves and trolls/night elves allowing you to blur the line across the factional boarder.
I think Xal is an agent of the void that was sent along with the old gods. Locus Walker knows what she is - It's likely their planet had a Xalatath as well, a being that is specifically an agent meant to push things along and deliver the world souls to the void.
The old gods are the almost generals that infest the planet and bring about the army but Xalatath seems like she doesnt report to them but to the void lords themselves.
That's how it feels to me - And the fact locus walker knows what she is, makes me think their planet had one similar to Xalatath.
I think Xal is a free agent, so to speak. She's a void entity but she's not aligned with the old gods or the designs of the void lords, hence why the old gods didn't release her from the dagger. She doesn't want the world soul for the void. She wants it for herself. She's working for herself not for some unknowable Eldritch horror. She is the Eldritch horror.
I just realized that Xal'atath only helped us in Legion because she wanted the world soul for herself!
Can't have it if Sargeras had destroyed it.
It's called how to replace a character to make sense that you lost one that was in a similar role, Sylvanas, that's what Xalatath is but she can be made way more evil and a real villain because unlike Sylvanas she doesn't seem to have a good side so people would be more ok to getting her off the way unlike Sylvanas.
I've had a pocket theory that dimensious wasn't summoned to the ethereals world but rather is the worldsoul of the world, which is why its inhabitants got their void forms.
WoW on Gamepass would be awesome. I'd way rather pay $16 or $17 a month for all of gamepass than $15 just for wow
I love the look of the warrior/paladin, her armour goes so well with her skin colour, and the artists really made her look like her 'disabilities' have only made her meaner. 🤣
Bel suggests that Xal my be a world soul, not the one from Ethereals planet. But another that was some how lost and Xal is its last remnants. That wants Azeroth so she can take its power to become the World Soul it was meant too.
dang, hes really just kind of become a woke cringey dude hasnt he. The part about anduin and her being a potential wife
Can we get a strictly Evitel channel. I'm tired of the clickbait thumbnails with no Evitel in the video.
What if because of every cosmic power trying to claim Azeroth she will have all of those powers when she wakes up
Is it the same voice actress that narrates the very first wow cinematic? It sounds like her, when she says "the drums of war thunder" it sounds so much like the voice that narrates that, the fact they made her say it and show the old cinematic etc
Maby Azeroths world soul will be special like her denizens where unlike other worlds she gets corrupted by all the cosmos
Wait... Did Xal'atath narrate the original vanilla WoW opening? It's the same voice!
How is it seem everyone else gets to try war within but not me must be nice ive yet to get excepted to a beta been playing since BC and not a single beta .thats why im always behind evryone else they know already were to go wat to do were i have to gues
At this point I’d be surprised if they make any new race faction exclusive