Facts when it showed the trailer day 1 I kid u not the first thing I said this game looks like injustice... I just hope we get back to the drawing board and go back to 1v1
thats why i say stop giving nrs money if they are only going to give us the customers a half ass product, this is why i said i am never giving them anymore money till they stop doing this shit.
Agree with Tom with this one : NRS is yo blame,WB gives you a budget and a deadline..NRS/Ed boon job is to create the game withing that budget and that time frame ...even if WB did request some DEI and some micro transactions shoehorn,there are creative ways to do that shytte ...they are the clear definition of low effort ...just do enough expecting the game to sell by its name alone
You do understand budget, and development time are key factors in a game's success. So that's a WB issue.(They are not the ONLY contributing factors, but they are vital ones) There are also certain constraints WB can set that NRS has to abide by. We have historically seen corporations likes Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA, blizzard directly/ indirectly corrode the passion in the gaming industry. I'm not saying NRS doesn't have some blame on their shoulders. HOWEVER 1 doesn't come without the other so they both deserve blame.
@Synical02 I could agree with you but NRS are the creators of the game ...they are not new developers they know how long how much it takes to make a game ...there are so many routes they could've taken ..more simplistic routes ...with the story and the gameplay ..even with roster and all the dumbass changes to characters..I doubt the suits at WB even know who these characters are ...they give you the the time and might have a few requests ...mayority of blame fall on NRS/Ed Boon
When Ed Boon did that interview and said MK1 was gonna be the longest supported MK and they had all this content planned for it I told people he wasn't talking to us the community and fans. He was making a sales pitch to his bosses and higher ups. He was going "look at all this stuff we have planned for the future please don't cancel the game yet". MK requires an effing Avengers movie budget to make and in order to warrant getting a budget like that you have produce.
Personally I believe people would still feel the same way they feel now about this game even if it was injustice 3 because it would still be a buggy incomplete game and they would still overcharge for the DLC. Honestly it might be worst because people would buy it off the strength of their favorite heroes and the fans take those characters seriously.
@@straightcaniven906 also bro why u commin like that when bro @lou always keeps it respectful 19:47, bro if anything remember the golden rule, treat others the way you would like to be treated!!!
@@davidswen5103 Ian being disrespectful tho I just said it’s a lie cause it is before khaos reigns they were balancing the game am I right ? Ian call him out his name or anything like that
I dont really think so. I feel like it would've even benefited injustice 3 more because injustice has a legacy fighting system. Most of the characters playstyle would have stayed the same. So there wouldnt be a need to revamp/change how every fighter plays like how it is with every MK game. That means NRS would even have more time to flesh out how the Kameos(Sidekicks) work and also develop more offline single player content. Not the bare bones game we got.
I’m glad you brought up the question about if it was injustice 3 would I like it? The answer is yes that makes more sense being an injustice style of play not mk since mk was always 1v1 & For example whenever I see rain gameplay I just can’t help but think it’s Aquaman skinned as a mk character. Although I already got used to the kameo system I always still wonder what the game could’ve been without kameos but kept the gameplay to still be enjoyable since i personally play mk1 more than I did 11. Also as far as empty promises I still believe the warrior shrine was suppose to be something else. Ain’t no way your having something in the game saying “coming soon” just for it to be another leaderboard
You are spot on the money with that Aquaman comparison, i don’t play him so i never thought about it but you def can see it! That random staff he got OUT OF NOWHERE this game is def Aquaman’s trident in Injustice 2
@@LouStreets I saw rain being Aquaman cause I was a rain main in mk11 and was hoping for the same fighting style being carried over into mk1 but he solely relies on his staff which got me thinking that’s really Aquaman in disguise and they rushed out another mk title
That's a great point. People are constantly debating which game is better, but it's irrelevant. The important thing is that NRS gives us garbage, and we still buy it. They don't care about improvements or making the game better; they only care about money.
NRS never lets a tree fully grow, every 2-3 years they uproot the tree and plant a new one. I for one, just became tired of having to re-learn the same character again and again. Between mk9 and mk1, Sub-zero has had 15 different special moves I believe. Outside of iceball and slide (whose inputs even change game to game) not one of his other specials make it to the next interation.
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It's good to see you're able to speak with another legend known to the MK Community. Good Kontent and one day I'll hyu on a exhibition best of 5 match if the time presents itself.
I like Super regardless. TrueUnderdog, however, is a humongous shill and disgustingly dishonest, with his BS clickbait videos and shameless NRS d!ck-hugging.
For me honestly I feel MK9 & MKX were the last two great Mortal Kombat games & I think the franchise need a long hiatus, just put the classics on a collection pack like what capcom did with street fighter a few years ago & also make another Shaolin Monks type of game I reckon those things would put Mortal Kombat back on a positive direction.
I’m surprised modders haven’t fixed custom variation issue. MK11 is on PC so it should be possible. UMVC3 still has strong community all these years later. MK11 could have the same.
WB CEO already confirmed that mk is the priority focus so no injustice 3 even Ed boon and nrs confirmed that mk will be the main focus saying also WB mentioned we getting another Mk game after Mk 1
Raiden in 11 was kinda weak in general: not much damage, not safe on most basic attacks, he felt stiff to play, and he also had hitbox issues the whole time 😝
Good content bro. For now i am done with NRS. Sf6 just released a patch and they actually had the reasons why they buffed or nerfed a character. Simple communication. Nrs for the past 2 games hasnt given us that. They are not fixing issues that they have promised to fix. Etc. They need to do better.
The game done in year 1 after paying 120 USD. And they should resolve the problem that we are mentioned from day 1 if not I will neever trsut this people. Because they did it now for 2 consecutive games.
No man Mk1 wouldn’t be a good game if it was injustice 3. If they did this with injustice 3, I would be extremely let down as I was with Mk1. The formula just isn’t enjoyable. They need to to stop fucking around with bs ideas and stick to what works. It’s super half assed the way did the game. If kameo was a mode instead of the base format, then it would be much better. But putting iconic characters in our face just to have them hop in for 3 seconds and not be fully playable is egregious.
mk1 is rlly fun but this game will always feel so incomplete and just dumb, this has to be the most dishonest mk in history, in mk11 mkx and mk9 those games never felt like i was getting robbed by bs like this, this was supposed to be injustice and its so freaking obvious
Well, this year overall is the start of people finally pushing back against a variety of corporations that have been exploiting us, so who's to say that the video game industry is off the hook? I'm glad content creators like you are speaking out against these disingenuous, money-hungry, scum-sucking developers and their corporate handlers for squeezing every penny out of us, along with what makes these games what they are!
I really understand their though behind loadouts. It was to allow ppl to craft a character their way so not all played the same and to be honest I liked it. Where it fell short was some moves were just so much better than others that you had to use em. But what really even made that an issue was not distributing the slots appropriately. You raiden example was a perfect one. Even though Stockport should be in his base kit, making it cost 2 bars made no sense when other ppl had free teleports and he has always had one. If they was gonna slot it , it should of only been 1. The only way 2 would of made sense is if it was a combo starter or combo extension move when amplified, even then I’d still only make it 1
I agree with Tom on this with NRS.. with MK11 they said we will support this games for years to come. they introduced Aftermath made their money and moved on. Same pattern with MK1 they gave us a game that to me wasn’t completely finished at a premium price and NRS saying the same thing that they will support this game for years to come introduced the expansion that’s was poorly done at a high price as well and now they are moving on… I definitely feel like NRS lied to us and they definitely could’ve produced a finished product for MK1 or continue to support and finish MK11 .
Hmmm, Do I feel robbed.........Well I feel let down. Kung Lao Main here. When Old Man Kung Lao was on top of the world in MKX, and not too bad in MK11 but then Reworked in MK1 with his teleport and Spin taken away. I just knew the direction of MK was going down hill. MK11 let me down when there was no Running Mechanic in the game for every character. It had better Graphics and Nostalgic Chacters. It had a good story and Online wasn't bad. NRS just stopped support. I was extremely happy with Fujin. MK1 isn't bad but once again someone made the decision not to put the Run Mechanic in, And one f the biggest issues is Customization. Not being able to select from multiple set outfits in different slots. What if I only want to pair something with other specific things. MK1 feels unfinished in that area. Along with no Online Rooms.I love MKX. Combos are found till this day!!!! MK11 had better Graphics, Story and Presentation. Rewards you more. MK1 is alright but Injustice 2 was the truth. Combos, Break through levels to other stages, Gear and Customs for days. Wouldn't want to see Injustice with Kameos. It's weird enough in MK as is.
I wanted this game to keep going. I will look forward to the next game but it will literally take years to learn anything about it so that will be frustrating. I’ll keep myself busy with my current games though 😊
hey big dog, love the content, love the passion in how u go about conversing, and love that you and mike are showing you can be passionate about something while also knowing what your talking about. keep the content rollin !
I think I was 11 when I saw the MK arcade machine being rolled in the mall here in Texas. I have purchased every game except my vs DC. MK 11 is hands down the best in the series. This game did not feel like mk at all. So sad.
I really think the Kameo system would have been better as an Injustice it makes more sense imo…also I’m starting to think MK1 is the beta for Injustice 3…I haven’t played in months Mk11 was the just the more fun game imo…if all of this is intentional then I wouldn’t be surprised if Injustice 3 has some type of sidekick/ assist system in it…and the movement like MK1…mark my words but I agree with Tom honestly
Do I feel robbed with MK1?? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiit I felt robbed with MK 11 cause they never added tag team Kombat DESPITE IT BEING 100% POSSIBLE in Aftermath only to give us a watered down version of it in MK1.
I don’t see how this game would be potentially better as an Injustice game unless the mechanics were different like an Injustice game, but then it wouldn’t be the same game with just different characters and a different storyline. I love the DC universe but I overall prefer the MK lore and gameplay anyway.
in my opinion.....i think it would have done better if it was injustice 3 due to the cameo system. its just that the heros and villians of dc may have fit the system more compared to the MK universe. do i feel like ive been robbed in MK 1? i will say kinda because the first couple months for me was fun because everyone was figuring out the game, best team comps etc. i dropped it around the time peacemaker came out so i didnt get to experience all the stupid stuff i seen people online complain about. Khaos Reigns sealed the fate of MK1 for me because that was not worth all that money. 25 to 30 bucks at best and i almost bought it for Noob alone since he is my favorite MK character. but NRS better get they stuff together because fans only gonna support them for the MK brand and name for so long before the fans stop caring about the franchise altogether....
I think the way that dc characters move it would’ve been better if it was actually inj3 bc the gameplay on mk1 is hype no doubt it looks amazing but on mk1 it has limitations bc mk characters don’t move like dc characters they had to keep that in mind I don’t knock the kameo system but ik it would’ve been better as an inj3 game in that scene realistically the kameos would’ve had more flexibility and more to offer
I hear good points on character design in MK11 compared to MK1. This inspired me to pick up MK11 again.. Damn that game feels stiff and boring. No meter is no game, like I need meter to make things happen or else it’s poking and loose jabs all day. Both latest MK games should NOT be the base for the next MK game.
I DOUBT they’re lying to troll us. Would piss off a lot more fans. I’d personally be happy to get more MK characters but I’m just waiting for news of the next MK game. For now, I’ll keep maining Takeda and have my fun where I can.
Yup Ed should be in the hot seat, if he can’t fix the next MK game then yes his ass needs to go. That will put ALL of NRS on blast. They’ll know if Ed isn’t safe then I’m sure as hell not safe either and he was 1 half creator of MK and he’s gone.
I got called crazy and stupid for saying that " if they aren't going to take the time to improve this game then we can't trust anything else that put out going forward." Instead of them killing Kombat Pack 3. Actually continue to work on and refine the game for years. Just cutting ties and moving on to the next game makes me have little faith in any game they make going forward. If NRS doesn't have faith to fix and improve their game why should we have faith in anything that they are developing going forward.
MK11 cos I'm mainly a lore guy and I despise the "New Era" stuff. There's a chance MK1 would have been a slightly better product under Injustice brand. According to rumors MK1 was actually Injustice at earlier stages of development. This implies that we would receive a more polished product if they hadn't had to go through reimagining it into MK, adjusting everything into a new engine and so on. Gosh, I hate NRS. FREE MK FRANCHISE!
You called it doom-splaining because I’m talking about a phone convo that I literally didn’t expect to have and just told people what was said to me in it….you NPC’s need to go outside and learn how to think for yourself
I will always say that the 1-2 year development cycle is not enough. Majority of nrs games come in at a C- , and leave at a B+. Mk11 to me was proof if they took 2.5 or 3 years to FULLY develop a game it could be a A-. Mk11 was also HUGELY helped by the local online tournaments. Also tbh This formula has been done since mk9 Inj3 would be cool, but i dont want that rn. I want them to continue to work on mk1 cause theres no reason I should expect injustice 3 to not have similar issues to inj2, and mk1. Imo the nrs cycle is the call of duty cycle, and I don't like it. Imagine if injustice 2 - added a third kbp - more stages - fixed the legendary gear system - fixed the bs loot box system - added more box space - buffed raiden, sub, and some characters of the turtles.
All they needed to improve mk11 exponentially is take the armour off fatal blow, make it so you have to combo into it not just yolo on wake up. Make D2 Kb only work on a ducked grab not any high so people wouldn’t just mash it like a mindless drone, make it so you’re rewarded on a read. And break away should work like breaker you shouldn’t get punished because someone breaks away at the perfect moment of your combo that they wake up and punish you
Since Injustice 2 NRS games have been dog water. Even though MK1 is lacking, at least it has more creativity. Ain’t no way you could pay me to play MK11 with its goober mechanics
Remember this gane was supposed ro be injustice 3 i tbink the gane dont feel like mk because warner bros changed the game mid engine development from the color to the graphics ,thats why when you dk you fatal blow you see the start up animation vs the other games a crushing blow comes off as amplified lick ,imma stand on the hill when i said this game was supposed to be Injustice 3 and should have been injustice 3 this is not a mortal Kombat game
Naw, Mr. Streets: Tom has repeatedly said he thinks MK11 is the worst FG ever made 😂 I used to enjoy it but I prefer 1 cos Takeda is really fun even though my fave’ MK character, Fujin, is gone yet again 😝
Lou I definitely felt robbed of this game for how its marketed, I assumed this game's story would be about characters facing their destinies and that nobody can change their fates but instead its just an mcu generic story, as for gameplay I have some issues and its the kameos I wouldn't mind it if the rosters weren't separate I think both rosters should've been the same in my opinion, but I do agree that this game feels more like Injustice than MK I mean there are a lot of elements from that game thats in MK12 (not calling it MK1), and about what MKTomBrady said I think he's telling the truth because were literally going through the same cycle just like MK11 but this time we got info from that leaker letting us know that KP3 is cancelled. If we get a new MK in the future I hope it gets an entire new development team that builds a gameplay system similar to MK9 or MKX no variations, have either John Tobias or John Vogel back as writers or get new writers that are fans of the series before nrs's awful writing, more single player content such as game modes from previous games as well as bringing back the Krypt and most importantly no more micro transactions and not making it a live service game that requires the internet.
@bawhite125 That is an opinion not a fact. As a former Arcade player and MK enthusiast since 1991 I preferred 2 over UMK3. It was darker and the Fatalities were better. Mechanics were better in UMK3 but the overall aesthetic wasn't as good. But that is my opinion. Tom and everyone can look to the past all they want. NRS is what we got to work with and another development team would cater to a crowd that doesn't even play these games and a bunch of UA-camrs who want the game censored because they hate editing their videos or downloading a mod. At least NRS does it's best to keep the spirit of MK alive while trying to navigate a corporate minefield. It ain't a perfect situation but it's the one we got right now. And until NRS and MK get bought by someone else this is the situation were in.
11 was a way better and more entertaining . Mk1 gave us a lot we did not ask for but gave us nothing we needed in a mortal kombat game . Characters don't even feel like the same characters anymore from their designs all the way to their move sets . Had way more game modes that were entertaining mk1 just been a lazy cash grab
I didn't enjoy the button system of mk11, using rb to enhance , i didn't enjoy the way they implemented the combo fall out thing in 11, i enjoy the enhance system of using block and the breaker/meter system in mk11 because there's a sort of ease about it .that's why i like mk1 as a game, the fighting systems within the game are good , its just the Kameo system most don't like and i understand. i just don't like how NRS buffs they favorite characters and nerf others instead of bringing all characters up to par with the strengths of others
I been defending this game for too long. Yes I feel robbed. Bought this BS for 2 systems for them to pull the rug on it a year later. I’m pissed, honestly. It would be a good game if not for the broken ass shit in it. Like before they nerfed Peacemaker… and Homelander. Nowadays we ain’t even fighting against Scorpion, we fighting against Ferra. Should I even get into how they ruined these characters? Like, wtf is Liu Kangs bicycle kick? Like why? And throw kombos and sweep kombos = dumb AF Add that to a TRASH single player experience…. I’m pretty bent about it.
MK1 could have been the best MK. It has the best graphics. The best movement. Everything is so, so good on a structural stand point. I actually also like the Kameo mode. It’s fun, unique and gives WILD combo ability. Also gives like a loadout type situation with your kit… who is best for what situation… so it’s cool to me. But they should have made a non Kameo mode as well for people who don’t like it, and for Pro Tours. The fact they didn’t, is lazy. What SUCKS… the meta is horrible. I mean, some characters like Liu Kang, Kitana, and a few others are just Fuckin left behind with NO true mix. No 50/50. Just strike throw and projectiles. They are hiring and forgotten. But damn if we don’t buff smoke when he doesn’t need buffs and then make Havik the best character in the game. Homelander… should I go on? It’s insane how unbalanced this game is and how some characters are just left behind when the meta is true mix, 50/50s and a handful of kameos. Every character should have a good overhead and a good low, with ONE being a launcher. Not like noob where he has 50 mix options and half of them launch… but Liu just kicks… yep. Just kicks. STAGGERS THO BABY. Yeah right… balance the game. If not, then it’s gonna die.
Yo Ngl this gotta stop, when mk11 was out I never heard a singular good thing about this game. Now suddenly everyone loves it, nah mk11 sucks terrible fighting game, joker, geras. Jacqui briggs and krushin blows made that game unfun. And we don’t even have to talk about breakaways
If the game was Injustice 3, I still would not like this game. I don't like Injustice games in general. If this game didn't have the kameos, I probably would like this game. The DLC could have been better. I definitely don't like the gender swaps. Some people complain that the game doesn't have much content besides online play. All I need is that and a story mode and a krypt and I'm good. I don't see that as a problem. The kameo system is what mainly killed it for me. I think many people would like this game if it was Injustice 3. The kameo system fits that game more than this, and Homelander, Omni Man, and Peacemaker fit more in that game.
Mk11 we were robbed main characters should have had original moves then pick and choose from the new moves created Mk1 was an expression of something that was inspired from other games but represented terribly and to consistently get reinvented but already had a bad taste in peoples mouth Warner bros has too much influence and is controlling the life to mk which destroys the patches that can lead to an amazing game (also has a control on communication) (I could be wrong with this…) Nrs makes poor decisions on balance patches (example ghost face…) Nrs is constantly trying to reinvent the wheel that has led to amazing games like mk9 and mkx so we can’t be so harsh
I disagree that MK11 is the better game. I think it's just mob mentality and trendy to hate on MK1. Sure it's not perfect. That being said, The GFX are awesome on a good TV. There's lots of skins and pallets for players that aren't lazy and thoroughly grind invasions and Legacy towers. The Kameo system, I find awesome and makes for creative Kombo possibilities. I just don't understand all the bitching. It's like go back and play special forces and ppl might appreciate this more.
Yes, NRS made promises with both mk11 and mk1 that it straight up didn’t deliver on. But, mk11 AT LEAST had a strong foundation that could’ve been saved with some reworks to the slotting system or small mechanical tweaks. Mk1 LITERALLY needs an entire rework to make itself make sense. It’s an assist game with no pushback and egregious chip damage, it’s a high damage game but it gives people countless bail outs from their horrible decisions, they made archetypes again but the best zoner in the game is the one they designed to be a grappler. Your “get off me” tool is a combo starter for gods sakes. No part of this games design is coherent or intuitive. I even hate breaker. Topic for another day. NRS NEEDS a new dev team or consultants that come from other games and show them how fighting game design works.
Mk1 is both a bad game and a bad mortal kombat game. The animations are janky and stilted, the neutral is awful, the ability to bail yourself out of bad decisions constantly is ridiculous, it encourages brain dead bad decision making. It doesn’t look or feel like MK at all, but even if it was injustice, the aforementioned needs to be addressed. The online is terrible, the netcode sucks, there was no replay takeover or online practice for over a year, you STILL have to look at a blank screen when matchmaking. I could go on & on, but long story less long, this shit should’ve been scrapped and reworked to release 2025 AT BEST.
Interesting that you only only discuss mk1 with other mk1 haters and people with the same opinions as you. Brady is a cry baby. He is one of those people that will bitch about anything they can find so he is not a good reference point if you want to be unbiased. Discuss these topics with people that like the game. Otherwise this channel is just an echo chamber of "mk1 bad, mk11 and mkx better," with a whole lot of buzzwords instead of actual explenations and substantial arguments
I've always said this. MK1 seems too Injustice coded for this to be MK. I personally believe that this was suppose to be Injustice 3.
Facts when it showed the trailer day 1 I kid u not the first thing I said this game looks like injustice... I just hope we get back to the drawing board and go back to 1v1
That’s facts. The made them make it a mk game.
thats why i say stop giving nrs money if they are only going to give us the customers a half ass product, this is why i said i am never giving them anymore money till they stop doing this shit.
Agree. I got finessed buying the 120$ edition thinking the game would have as much content as mk11 and boy I was wrong 😂😂
@@paintballJohn2 you and me both so year nrs can kiss my ass till shit in that company changes i am not supporting them
Mk1 is so cooked, as a mortal kombat 1 fan I’m utterly disappointed
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Agree with Tom with this one : NRS is yo blame,WB gives you a budget and a deadline..NRS/Ed boon job is to create the game withing that budget and that time frame ...even if WB did request some DEI and some micro transactions shoehorn,there are creative ways to do that shytte ...they are the clear definition of low effort ...just do enough expecting the game to sell by its name alone
You do understand budget, and development time are key factors in a game's success.
So that's a WB issue.(They are not the ONLY contributing factors, but they are vital ones)
There are also certain constraints WB can set that NRS has to abide by.
We have historically seen corporations likes Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA, blizzard directly/ indirectly corrode the passion in the gaming industry.
I'm not saying NRS doesn't have some blame on their shoulders.
HOWEVER 1 doesn't come without the other so they both deserve blame.
@Synical02 I could agree with you but NRS are the creators of the game ...they are not new developers they know how long how much it takes to make a game ...there are so many routes they could've taken ..more simplistic routes ...with the story and the gameplay ..even with roster and all the dumbass changes to characters..I doubt the suits at WB even know who these characters are ...they give you the the time and might have a few requests ...mayority of blame fall on NRS/Ed Boon
When Ed Boon did that interview and said MK1 was gonna be the longest supported MK and they had all this content planned for it I told people he wasn't talking to us the community and fans. He was making a sales pitch to his bosses and higher ups. He was going "look at all this stuff we have planned for the future please don't cancel the game yet". MK requires an effing Avengers movie budget to make and in order to warrant getting a budget like that you have produce.
Personally I believe people would still feel the same way they feel now about this game even if it was injustice 3 because it would still be a buggy incomplete game and they would still overcharge for the DLC. Honestly it might be worst because people would buy it off the strength of their favorite heroes and the fans take those characters seriously.
@@straightcaniven906 also bro why u commin like that when bro @lou always keeps it respectful 19:47, bro if anything remember the golden rule, treat others the way you would like to be treated!!!
@@davidswen5103 Ian being disrespectful tho I just said it’s a lie cause it is before khaos reigns they were balancing the game am I right ? Ian call him out his name or anything like that
If they swapped the genders of super heroes like in Mortal Kombat 1, people definitely wouldn't like the game.
Yep, it was incomplete trash at release, and it’s only gotten mildly better. Awful, disappointing game. Makes MK11 look like the GOAT.
I dont really think so. I feel like it would've even benefited injustice 3 more because injustice has a legacy fighting system. Most of the characters playstyle would have stayed the same. So there wouldnt be a need to revamp/change how every fighter plays like how it is with every MK game. That means NRS would even have more time to flesh out how the Kameos(Sidekicks) work and also develop more offline single player content. Not the bare bones game we got.
I’m glad you brought up the question about if it was injustice 3 would I like it? The answer is yes that makes more sense being an injustice style of play not mk since mk was always 1v1 & For example whenever I see rain gameplay I just can’t help but think it’s Aquaman skinned as a mk character. Although I already got used to the kameo system I always still wonder what the game could’ve been without kameos but kept the gameplay to still be enjoyable since i personally play mk1 more than I did 11. Also as far as empty promises I still believe the warrior shrine was suppose to be something else. Ain’t no way your having something in the game saying “coming soon” just for it to be another leaderboard
You are spot on the money with that Aquaman comparison, i don’t play him so i never thought about it but you def can see it! That random staff he got OUT OF NOWHERE this game is def Aquaman’s trident in Injustice 2
@@LouStreets I saw rain being Aquaman cause I was a rain main in mk11 and was hoping for the same fighting style being carried over into mk1 but he solely relies on his staff which got me thinking that’s really Aquaman in disguise and they rushed out another mk title
def thought this was supposed to be inj3.. look at the tea house map (mk1) and the ace of clubs bar from (inj2).. it’s so similar
That's a great point.
People are constantly debating which game is better, but it's irrelevant.
The important thing is that NRS gives us garbage, and we still buy it. They don't care about improvements or making the game better; they only care about money.
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NRS never lets a tree fully grow, every 2-3 years they uproot the tree and plant a new one.
I for one, just became tired of having to re-learn the same character again and again.
Between mk9 and mk1, Sub-zero has had 15 different special moves I believe. Outside of iceball and slide (whose inputs even change game to game) not one of his other specials make it to the next interation.
Great points. Agreed.
Street Fighter X Tekken is definitely a good example of this too.
😢 yes it was
@just_2swift loved that game and it ended so sad too
@@maskoftiers77788 I loved playing Bison
@just_2swift i played everyone in that game 😭
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It's good to see you're able to speak with another legend known to the MK Community. Good Kontent and one day I'll hyu on a exhibition best of 5 match if the time presents itself.
16:46 I will say the name. The biggest shills are: Super, and TRUEUNDERDAWG.
And no I won’t enjoy MK1 if it was IJ3.
That boy super is the 2015-17 Tmartn of Mortal Kombat if you know who that is lol
I like Super regardless. TrueUnderdog, however, is a humongous shill and disgustingly dishonest, with his BS clickbait videos and shameless NRS d!ck-hugging.
And Bruskpoet
For me honestly I feel MK9 & MKX were the last two great Mortal Kombat games & I think the franchise need a long hiatus, just put the classics on a collection pack like what capcom did with street fighter a few years ago & also make another Shaolin Monks type of game I reckon those things would put Mortal Kombat back on a positive direction.
I’m surprised modders haven’t fixed custom variation issue. MK11 is on PC so it should be possible. UMVC3 still has strong community all these years later. MK11 could have the same.
WB CEO already confirmed that mk is the priority focus so no injustice 3 even Ed boon and nrs confirmed that mk will be the main focus saying also WB mentioned we getting another Mk game after Mk 1
Raiden in 11 was kinda weak in general: not much damage, not safe on most basic attacks, he felt stiff to play, and he also had hitbox issues the whole time 😝
Good content bro. For now i am done with NRS. Sf6 just released a patch and they actually had the reasons why they buffed or nerfed a character. Simple communication. Nrs for the past 2 games hasnt given us that. They are not fixing issues that they have promised to fix. Etc. They need to do better.
Some people need to realize that Ed boon doesn't have full control of mk franchise anymore once WB took over
The game done in year 1 after paying 120 USD.
And they should resolve the problem that we are mentioned from day 1 if not I will neever trsut this people.
Because they did it now for 2 consecutive games.
Yep, complete robbery.
It would make more sense if it was Injustice 3 like main character (hero/villain) and then the kameos are side kick
No man Mk1 wouldn’t be a good game if it was injustice 3. If they did this with injustice 3, I would be extremely let down as I was with Mk1. The formula just isn’t enjoyable. They need to to stop fucking around with bs ideas and stick to what works. It’s super half assed the way did the game. If kameo was a mode instead of the base format, then it would be much better. But putting iconic characters in our face just to have them hop in for 3 seconds and not be fully playable is egregious.
100% agree
mk1 is rlly fun but this game will always feel so incomplete and just dumb, this has to be the most dishonest mk in history, in mk11 mkx and mk9 those games never felt like i was getting robbed by bs like this, this was supposed to be injustice and its so freaking obvious
Well, this year overall is the start of people finally pushing back against a variety of corporations that have been exploiting us, so who's to say that the video game industry is off the hook? I'm glad content creators like you are speaking out against these disingenuous, money-hungry, scum-sucking developers and their corporate handlers for squeezing every penny out of us, along with what makes these games what they are!
If they do continue after KP2, I believe there will no longer be "Packs" and just be single kharacter releases. 1 or 2 at a time.
I really understand their though behind loadouts. It was to allow ppl to craft a character their way so not all played the same and to be honest I liked it. Where it fell short was some moves were just so much better than others that you had to use em. But what really even made that an issue was not distributing the slots appropriately. You raiden example was a perfect one. Even though Stockport should be in his base kit, making it cost 2 bars made no sense when other ppl had free teleports and he has always had one. If they was gonna slot it , it should of only been 1. The only way 2 would of made sense is if it was a combo starter or combo extension move when amplified, even then I’d still only make it 1
Mk11 was my introduction to fighting games to be taken seriously, that game is forever in my heart and one of my favorite games ever.
Same
Yal missed the good same go back to mkx and mk9. Trust me
I enjoyed MK11 tremendously. Time to revisit.
I agree with Tom on this with NRS.. with MK11 they said we will support this games for years to come. they introduced Aftermath made their money and moved on. Same pattern with MK1 they gave us a game that to me wasn’t completely finished at a premium price and NRS saying the same thing that they will support this game for years to come introduced the expansion that’s was poorly done at a high price as well and now they are moving on…
I definitely feel like NRS lied to us and they definitely could’ve produced a finished product for MK1 or continue to support and finish MK11 .
Mk11 just needed breakers, up block, and better customization skills.
Visually and thematically it was a good game.
What up and happy holidays
6:00 this game made me try Street fighter 6 and I love it
The main problem is they don’t take time on their game they should spend more time on the game
Mk1 didn’t sell well bc it’s only for next gen and pc. A lot of people/players still have last gen
Hmmm, Do I feel robbed.........Well I feel let down. Kung Lao Main here. When Old Man Kung Lao was on top of the world in MKX, and not too bad in MK11 but then Reworked in MK1 with his teleport and Spin taken away. I just knew the direction of MK was going down hill. MK11 let me down when there was no Running Mechanic in the game for every character. It had better Graphics and Nostalgic Chacters. It had a good story and Online wasn't bad. NRS just stopped support. I was extremely happy with Fujin. MK1 isn't bad but once again someone made the decision not to put the Run Mechanic in, And one f the biggest issues is Customization. Not being able to select from multiple set outfits in different slots. What if I only want to pair something with other specific things. MK1 feels unfinished in that area. Along with no Online Rooms.I love MKX. Combos are found till this day!!!! MK11 had better Graphics, Story and Presentation. Rewards you more. MK1 is alright but Injustice 2 was the truth. Combos, Break through levels to other stages, Gear and Customs for days. Wouldn't want to see Injustice with Kameos. It's weird enough in MK as is.
Agree 100% with you🫡
Without kameo fighting style i would play but no way with kameo style of fighting
What I don’t understand is anyone taking about the next game when this happens twice I’m not buying the next or really ever .
naw " stephanie' and sonic fox need no input on a game when they cant even figure out if they are a dude or a girl how they gonna make a good game
Who here truly and honestly liked the Krushing Blows and Breakaway system in MK11?
I wanted this game to keep going. I will look forward to the next game but it will literally take years to learn anything about it so that will be frustrating. I’ll keep myself busy with my current games though 😊
hey big dog, love the content, love the passion in how u go about conversing, and love that you and mike are showing you can be passionate about something while also knowing what your talking about. keep the content rollin !
Lou and Mike literally don't know what they're talking about
MK1 made me go back to playing Tekken 8
I think I was 11 when I saw the MK arcade machine being rolled in the mall here in Texas. I have purchased every game except my vs DC. MK 11 is hands down the best in the series. This game did not feel like mk at all. So sad.
I really think the Kameo system would have been better as an Injustice it makes more sense imo…also I’m starting to think MK1 is the beta for Injustice 3…I haven’t played in months Mk11 was the just the more fun game imo…if all of this is intentional then I wouldn’t be surprised if Injustice 3 has some type of sidekick/ assist system in it…and the movement like MK1…mark my words but I agree with Tom honestly
Variations suck period: never bring them back
Do I feel robbed with MK1?? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiit
I felt robbed with MK 11 cause they never added tag team Kombat
DESPITE IT BEING 100% POSSIBLE in Aftermath only to give us a watered down version of it in MK1.
Nawl this needs to go viral
I don’t see how this game would be potentially better as an Injustice game unless the mechanics were different like an Injustice game, but then it wouldn’t be the same game with just different characters and a different storyline. I love the DC universe but I overall prefer the MK lore and
gameplay anyway.
Shoulda just kept 11 and updated it, mk1 was the biggest disappointment Iv had in a minute
Yoo man I need to become great like u in mortal kombat
My man, thanks for the love 🙏🏾
in my opinion.....i think it would have done better if it was injustice 3 due to the cameo system. its just that the heros and villians of dc may have fit the system more compared to the MK universe. do i feel like ive been robbed in MK 1? i will say kinda because the first couple months for me was fun because everyone was figuring out the game, best team comps etc. i dropped it around the time peacemaker came out so i didnt get to experience all the stupid stuff i seen people online complain about. Khaos Reigns sealed the fate of MK1 for me because that was not worth all that money. 25 to 30 bucks at best and i almost bought it for Noob alone since he is my favorite MK character. but NRS better get they stuff together because fans only gonna support them for the MK brand and name for so long before the fans stop caring about the franchise altogether....
I think this is not a good game, I think they just wanted to cash in.
Casual gameplay isn’t fun, competitive gameplay is broken.
I 100% feel robbed.
I think the way that dc characters move it would’ve been better if it was actually inj3 bc the gameplay on mk1 is hype no doubt it looks amazing but on mk1 it has limitations bc mk characters don’t move like dc characters they had to keep that in mind I don’t knock the kameo system but ik it would’ve been better as an inj3 game in that scene realistically the kameos would’ve had more flexibility and more to offer
Yessir got that boy Tom Brady n the mix the truth coming out 😂😂😂
I hear good points on character design in MK11 compared to MK1. This inspired me to pick up MK11 again.. Damn that game feels stiff and boring. No meter is no game, like I need meter to make things happen or else it’s poking and loose jabs all day. Both latest MK games should NOT be the base for the next MK game.
I DOUBT they’re lying to troll us. Would piss off a lot more fans. I’d personally be happy to get more
MK characters but I’m just waiting for news of the next MK game. For now, I’ll keep maining Takeda and have my fun where I can.
i don’t think their trying to troll my brother, just finesse the ignorant!!
and yes if it turns out to be true, we most definitely will be pissed
Of all the ppl you could’ve talk to 💀
Yup Ed should be in the hot seat, if he can’t fix the next MK game then yes his ass needs to go. That will put ALL of NRS on blast. They’ll know if Ed isn’t safe then I’m sure as hell not safe either and he was 1 half creator of MK and he’s gone.
This isn't a Mortal Kombat Game, it's too slow paced and not to mention the story line is off. Yes I feel like I've been robbed.
9:24 Khaos Reigns was 49.99$ not 40.00$
I got called crazy and stupid for saying that " if they aren't going to take the time to improve this game then we can't trust anything else that put out going forward." Instead of them killing Kombat Pack 3. Actually continue to work on and refine the game for years. Just cutting ties and moving on to the next game makes me have little faith in any game they make going forward. If NRS doesn't have faith to fix and improve their game why should we have faith in anything that they are developing going forward.
It sucks man cuz mk could easily be the best fighting games. How they do things mess it up alot. The moves and combos r so cool.
Combos are cool tho.
MKX will always be the superior Mortal Kombat game over MK11 & MK1 but that’s my opinion 🫡
Yes!
18:17 nope
Mkx is clearly the best
Tom stokes are up 😂
MK11 cos I'm mainly a lore guy and I despise the "New Era" stuff.
There's a chance MK1 would have been a slightly better product under Injustice brand. According to rumors MK1 was actually Injustice at earlier stages of development. This implies that we would receive a more polished product if they hadn't had to go through reimagining it into MK, adjusting everything into a new engine and so on. Gosh, I hate NRS. FREE MK FRANCHISE!
MK11 is the worst MK game of the NRS era.
Lmao. Maybe Sonic was right…. The doom splaining is crazy! lol 😂😂😂
You called it doom-splaining because I’m talking about a phone convo that I literally didn’t expect to have and just told people what was said to me in it….you NPC’s need to go outside and learn how to think for yourself
I will always say that the 1-2 year development cycle is not enough.
Majority of nrs games come in at a C- , and leave at a B+.
Mk11 to me was proof if they took 2.5 or 3 years to FULLY develop a game it could be a A-.
Mk11 was also HUGELY helped by the local online tournaments.
Also tbh This formula has been done since mk9
Inj3 would be cool, but i dont want that rn.
I want them to continue to work on mk1 cause theres no reason I should expect injustice 3 to not have similar issues to inj2, and mk1.
Imo the nrs cycle is the call of duty cycle, and I don't like it.
Imagine if injustice 2
- added a third kbp
- more stages
- fixed the legendary gear system
- fixed the bs loot box system
- added more box space
- buffed raiden, sub, and some characters of the turtles.
Mk11 is way better than mk1 the only thing that i like about mk1 is combos but beside that mk11 is better overall.
Breakaway? Krushing blows? 2 strings per character? 😩
Horrible take
probably didn’t play 9 or X. never let these kasuals make or break fighting games like in the past years please
All they needed to improve mk11 exponentially is take the armour off fatal blow, make it so you have to combo into it not just yolo on wake up. Make D2 Kb only work on a ducked grab not any high so people wouldn’t just mash it like a mindless drone, make it so you’re rewarded on a read. And break away should work like breaker you shouldn’t get punished because someone breaks away at the perfect moment of your combo that they wake up and punish you
If you think mk1 is better than 11 you don't know what you're talking about
Since Injustice 2 NRS games have been dog water. Even though MK1 is lacking, at least it has more creativity. Ain’t no way you could pay me to play MK11 with its goober mechanics
Guess who will buy the next NRS game?
Interesting
Remember this gane was supposed ro be injustice 3 i tbink the gane dont feel like mk because warner bros changed the game mid engine development from the color to the graphics ,thats why when you dk you fatal blow you see the start up animation vs the other games a crushing blow comes off as amplified lick ,imma stand on the hill when i said this game was supposed to be Injustice 3 and should have been injustice 3 this is not a mortal Kombat game
MK1 is a B-/B game at best. MK11 was an A- game.
Naw, Mr. Streets: Tom has repeatedly said he thinks MK11 is the worst FG ever made 😂 I used to enjoy it but I prefer 1 cos Takeda is really fun even though my fave’ MK character, Fujin, is gone yet again 😝
Lou I definitely felt robbed of this game for how its marketed, I assumed this game's story would be about characters facing their destinies and that nobody can change their fates but instead its just an mcu generic story, as for gameplay I have some issues and its the kameos I wouldn't mind it if the rosters weren't separate I think both rosters should've been the same in my opinion, but I do agree that this game feels more like Injustice than MK I mean there are a lot of elements from that game thats in MK12 (not calling it MK1), and about what MKTomBrady said I think he's telling the truth because were literally going through the same cycle just like MK11 but this time we got info from that leaker letting us know that KP3 is cancelled.
If we get a new MK in the future I hope it gets an entire new development team that builds a gameplay system similar to MK9 or MKX no variations, have either John Tobias or John Vogel back as writers or get new writers that are fans of the series before nrs's awful writing, more single player content such as game modes from previous games as well as bringing back the Krypt and most importantly no more micro transactions and not making it a live service game that requires the internet.
BRING BACK JOHN TOBIAS!!!
I don't listen to anything Tom says because if the game doesn't play like UMK3 it's trash as far as he is concerned.
I mean, UMK3 is the GOAT.
@bawhite125 That is an opinion not a fact. As a former Arcade player and MK enthusiast since 1991 I preferred 2 over UMK3. It was darker and the Fatalities were better. Mechanics were better in UMK3 but the overall aesthetic wasn't as good. But that is my opinion.
Tom and everyone can look to the past all they want. NRS is what we got to work with and another development team would cater to a crowd that doesn't even play these games and a bunch of UA-camrs who want the game censored because they hate editing their videos or downloading a mod. At least NRS does it's best to keep the spirit of MK alive while trying to navigate a corporate minefield. It ain't a perfect situation but it's the one we got right now. And until NRS and MK get bought by someone else this is the situation were in.
MK1 is busted.
I can play online without paying for game pass 🤣
11 was a way better and more entertaining . Mk1 gave us a lot we did not ask for but gave us nothing we needed in a mortal kombat game . Characters don't even feel like the same characters anymore from their designs all the way to their move sets . Had way more game modes that were entertaining mk1 just been a lazy cash grab
I didn't enjoy the button system of mk11, using rb to enhance , i didn't enjoy the way they implemented the combo fall out thing in 11, i enjoy the enhance system of using block and the breaker/meter system in mk11 because there's a sort of ease about it .that's why i like mk1 as a game, the fighting systems within the game are good , its just the Kameo system most don't like and i understand. i just don't like how NRS buffs they favorite characters and nerf others instead of bringing all characters up to par with the strengths of others
....real talk...tom is just butt hurt that subzero iceball is ass in mk1. Im mad too ..i main shao now lol
Ml12 is trash and needs to be buried, fire the writers and go back to a small tournament story
the game is pretty mid, if it was injustice it’d feel more like itself but it wouldnt be any thing special
I been defending this game for too long. Yes I feel robbed. Bought this BS for 2 systems for them to pull the rug on it a year later. I’m pissed, honestly.
It would be a good game if not for the broken ass shit in it. Like before they nerfed Peacemaker… and Homelander. Nowadays we ain’t even fighting against Scorpion, we fighting against Ferra.
Should I even get into how they ruined these characters? Like, wtf is Liu Kangs bicycle kick? Like why? And throw kombos and sweep kombos = dumb AF
Add that to a TRASH single player experience…. I’m pretty bent about it.
MK1 could have been the best MK.
It has the best graphics. The best movement. Everything is so, so good on a structural stand point.
I actually also like the Kameo mode. It’s fun, unique and gives WILD combo ability. Also gives like a loadout type situation with your kit… who is best for what situation… so it’s cool to me.
But they should have made a non Kameo mode as well for people who don’t like it, and for Pro Tours. The fact they didn’t, is lazy.
What SUCKS… the meta is horrible. I mean, some characters like Liu Kang, Kitana, and a few others are just Fuckin left behind with NO true mix. No 50/50. Just strike throw and projectiles. They are hiring and forgotten. But damn if we don’t buff smoke when he doesn’t need buffs and then make Havik the best character in the game. Homelander… should I go on? It’s insane how unbalanced this game is and how some characters are just left behind when the meta is true mix, 50/50s and a handful of kameos.
Every character should have a good overhead and a good low, with ONE being a launcher. Not like noob where he has 50 mix options and half of them launch… but Liu just kicks… yep. Just kicks. STAGGERS THO BABY. Yeah right… balance the game. If not, then it’s gonna die.
Sounds pretty Shiesty of nrs
Yo Ngl this gotta stop, when mk11 was out I never heard a singular good thing about this game. Now suddenly everyone loves it, nah mk11 sucks terrible fighting game, joker, geras. Jacqui briggs and krushin blows made that game unfun. And we don’t even have to talk about breakaways
If the game was Injustice 3, I still would not like this game. I don't like Injustice games in general. If this game didn't have the kameos, I probably would like this game. The DLC could have been better. I definitely don't like the gender swaps. Some people complain that the game doesn't have much content besides online play. All I need is that and a story mode and a krypt and I'm good. I don't see that as a problem. The kameo system is what mainly killed it for me. I think many people would like this game if it was Injustice 3. The kameo system fits that game more than this, and Homelander, Omni Man, and Peacemaker fit more in that game.
Mk11 we were robbed main characters should have had original moves then pick and choose from the new moves created
Mk1 was an expression of something that was inspired from other games but represented terribly and to consistently get reinvented but already had a bad taste in peoples mouth
Warner bros has too much influence and is controlling the life to mk which destroys the patches that can lead to an amazing game (also has a control on communication) (I could be wrong with this…)
Nrs makes poor decisions on balance patches (example ghost face…)
Nrs is constantly trying to reinvent the wheel that has led to amazing games like mk9 and mkx so we can’t be so harsh
I disagree that MK11 is the better game. I think it's just mob mentality and trendy to hate on MK1. Sure it's not perfect. That being said, The GFX are awesome on a good TV. There's lots of skins and pallets for players that aren't lazy and thoroughly grind invasions and Legacy towers. The Kameo system, I find awesome and makes for creative Kombo possibilities. I just don't understand all the bitching. It's like go back and play special forces and ppl might appreciate this more.
Mk11 is better and it needed another year
Yes, NRS made promises with both mk11 and mk1 that it straight up didn’t deliver on. But, mk11 AT LEAST had a strong foundation that could’ve been saved with some reworks to the slotting system or small mechanical tweaks. Mk1 LITERALLY needs an entire rework to make itself make sense. It’s an assist game with no pushback and egregious chip damage, it’s a high damage game but it gives people countless bail outs from their horrible decisions, they made archetypes again but the best zoner in the game is the one they designed to be a grappler. Your “get off me” tool is a combo starter for gods sakes. No part of this games design is coherent or intuitive. I even hate breaker. Topic for another day. NRS NEEDS a new dev team or consultants that come from other games and show them how fighting game design works.
Mk11 and mk1 are dog water hell honestly mk9 and MKX are the only games ive liked from NRS
Mk1 is both a bad game and a bad mortal kombat game. The animations are janky and stilted, the neutral is awful, the ability to bail yourself out of bad decisions constantly is ridiculous, it encourages brain dead bad decision making. It doesn’t look or feel like MK at all, but even if it was injustice, the aforementioned needs to be addressed. The online is terrible, the netcode sucks, there was no replay takeover or online practice for over a year, you STILL have to look at a blank screen when matchmaking. I could go on & on, but long story less long, this shit should’ve been scrapped and reworked to release 2025 AT BEST.
Interesting that you only only discuss mk1 with other mk1 haters and people with the same opinions as you. Brady is a cry baby. He is one of those people that will bitch about anything they can find so he is not a good reference point if you want to be unbiased. Discuss these topics with people that like the game. Otherwise this channel is just an echo chamber of "mk1 bad, mk11 and mkx better," with a whole lot of buzzwords instead of actual explenations and substantial arguments