IS Anyone Worth The Pull In Version 5.2? | Value Analysis

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  • @FliponYT
    @FliponYT  Місяць тому +18

    Never Mind Chasca bow works even without swirling. It’s also busted for Lyney so you can’t go wrong it seems if you main him.

  • @davidm0355
    @davidm0355 Місяць тому +112

    I wanted to pull for Zhongli for 4 years by now, but every time he got a banner I either couldn't get him or was forced to skip him. This time that old man won't escape me.

    • @captainburger8610
      @captainburger8610 Місяць тому +5

      fr i need him so bad for my hutao and lyney team he wont escape me again 😭 but I’m on my 50/50

    • @DanielCruz-xq6eo
      @DanielCruz-xq6eo Місяць тому +4

      Just get xilolen and thank me later, better buffs and heals

    • @alphaomega9387
      @alphaomega9387 Місяць тому +16

      @@DanielCruz-xq6eoxilonen is good but there are other characters that do what she does but zhongli is special and in his own league because of the shield

    • @captainburger8610
      @captainburger8610 Місяць тому +6

      @@DanielCruz-xq6eo I already have her shes on my neuvellite team i need a sheilder for hutao or lynney cause i cant dodge

    • @davidm0355
      @davidm0355 Місяць тому +2

      ​​@@DanielCruz-xq6eo I already have her, but I still want Zhongli's shield for the comfort.

  • @nilamelody
    @nilamelody Місяць тому +115

    Neuvi and Zhongli banner is so obviously placed as primo-drain right before Mavuika.
    The amount of FOMO is so high there.

    • @Saiyan.141
      @Saiyan.141 Місяць тому +1

      Im sorry what’s fomo

    • @timothytai691
      @timothytai691 Місяць тому +3

      thank god theres leaks about motorcycle mavuika, which solidified my resolve to ot pull her :P

    • @zaidaitsayad4065
      @zaidaitsayad4065 Місяць тому +3

      Fomo means fear of missing out

    • @leedevee
      @leedevee Місяць тому +7

      @@Saiyan.141It’s short for fomophobic, it’s kind of a slur.

    • @nilamelody
      @nilamelody Місяць тому +10

      @@Saiyan.141 fear of missing out.
      Many player don't have enough primos to pull for all these good characters.
      If they were to choose zhongli/neuvillette, they'd be missing out on Mavuika, and if they were to save up for Mavuika, they will have to skip Neuvillette/Zhongli and wait for who knows how long till their next rerun.

  • @Sunnysun_12
    @Sunnysun_12 Місяць тому +137

    “C0 Fischl Victim” I’m crying 😭

    • @jijidu69
      @jijidu69 Місяць тому +18

      @@Stellar_82 He is fine thanks to cinder city and he is better than fischl in aoe.

    • @kwayke9
      @kwayke9 Місяць тому

      ​@@Stellar_82no, he shines in aoe and is a non geo cinder city holder

    • @odin1303
      @odin1303 Місяць тому +1

      @@jijidu69 aoe checks do not exist anymore and he does not even outdamage fischl. remember you can make aoe situations into single target situations but you can never make a single target situation into an aoe situation. also using cinder city to support characters like kokomi and ayato is so stupid cause it’s better to just run an off field dps like fischl or furina who contribute more damage than the buff ororon gives with cinder city since they have very very low scaling.

    • @odin1303
      @odin1303 Місяць тому

      @@Stellar_82 yes 😂

    • @Marie_Alison
      @Marie_Alison Місяць тому

      I am at C-1 Fiscel

  • @stribijev
    @stribijev Місяць тому +79

    Almost 2 years playing Genshin, and my Fischl is still C1... This feels like a crime. I need more Fischl on the banners!

    • @atriyakoller136
      @atriyakoller136 Місяць тому +1

      I only got my Ningguang to C6 a couple banners back. Been playing since February 2021 😅 Fischl is gladly C6 but definitely took longer than some characters

    • @nk30020
      @nk30020 Місяць тому +1

      Same with sucrose for me

    • @stribijev
      @stribijev Місяць тому +1

      @@nk30020 My Sucrose is C0 only. She is always escaping the banners I pull on :(

    • @tamas9554
      @tamas9554 Місяць тому +1

      You have her?

    • @diegoortega7535
      @diegoortega7535 Місяць тому +5

      U know u can buy 1.0 4 star units in the shop right?

  • @shironasama0445
    @shironasama0445 Місяць тому +123

    Save for Mavuika is obviously the best choice

    • @jex-the-notebook-guy1002
      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Місяць тому +10

      Yeah screw the guy telling me getting kinich over xilonen was a bad pull. I have most of the universal supports already.

    • @Karma_267
      @Karma_267 Місяць тому

      That is objectively a bad pull option lol ​@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002

    • @atriyakoller136
      @atriyakoller136 Місяць тому +8

      ​​@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002I still want Xilonen, and I also want C1 Neuvillette, and Mavuika, but oh boy was Kinich a great pull. No regrets. And I also already have all the supports I need

    • @K1ra_245
      @K1ra_245 Місяць тому +5

      @@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 flip is the most bipolar genshin meta creator fr,he either cooks the best takes (like saying XL is not as good as people say she is) or the worst takes ever (chasca and lyney>zhongli)

    • @jex-the-notebook-guy1002
      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Місяць тому +1

      @@K1ra_245 no i mean i was arguing with someone over kinich vs xilonen. He was telling me kinich has less value. When i told him my 5 star charactery history he said he feels sorry for what i did to my account. I tell him th is wrong with you? And then I mention the 4 stars i have along with my c6 and 2 c5's. Then he tells me im yapping. He never explained why he said sorry. I think it was because i don't pull for cons

  • @wall6587
    @wall6587 Місяць тому +54

    Wild to think neuvilette will have 2 reruns before wrio gets his first one. Also shenhe 😢

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +5

      Maybe neuvi has special treatment becoz he is dragon ? (Like archons rerun every update). Besides we saw how cryo got destroyed by hoyo since 3.0 so who is surprised ?

    • @wall6587
      @wall6587 Місяць тому +3

      @@anonymousgreen5080 I saw some other comment saying that neuvi is re-running again with zhongli to make people spend their primos, so when mavuika comes right after them they don't have enough resources to wish for her and get to whale. Wrio and shenhe aren't top tier meta characters as you said, so even with their reruns they wont sell well and would be for the majority of players an easy skip.

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      @@wall6587 that is also a point becoz cryo is dead rn. tsaritsa will revive cryo. hoped

    • @Lia3-q9t
      @Lia3-q9t Місяць тому

      frrr

  • @lucifermorningstar8387
    @lucifermorningstar8387 Місяць тому +63

    Why tf is Nueve getting a rerun? He wont be in the event story. He wont be in any 5.0 Archon quest. And he had a rerun recently. It’s prolly to drain everyone’s primos before Mavuika’s banner.
    It’s so fucking sad to see Shenhe and Wrio neglected like that

    • @Gellaini
      @Gellaini Місяць тому +8

      and worse for Wrio 2 fckin 5* characters that got released before him will get 2nd rerun before his first

    • @neeraja6477
      @neeraja6477 Місяць тому +2

      also- many old players came back to genshin when natlan was released, so i guess more people want him now

    • @god_kurama
      @god_kurama Місяць тому +1

      Shut up. I want him

    • @deathinabottle6759
      @deathinabottle6759 Місяць тому +5

      Neuvillette is the best DPS in the game so they know what they are doing by putting him right before Mavuika...

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      U think only ppl involved in event will get rerun ? Are u dumb ? Becoz 5.2 main event is in natlan. How will u bring reruns ? As for wrio and shenhe, sure but cryo was never cared by hoyo. They benched cryo since dendro. Also dumb for u to think he wont be in any 5.0 archon quest. Becoz neither shenhe nor wrio will be involved either. Many ppl skipped neuvi for furina then kaz and neuvi ran before arle. Now they obv want neuvi back. So he is getting rerun. Dont forget he holds position of archon after focalors died. So he will get more frequent reruns like other archons. If u are dumb and cannot understand then stop commenting in random videos and go write a feedback to hoyo saying u die if shenhe or wrio doesnt get a rerun. 💀

  • @Marz333
    @Marz333 Місяць тому +27

    Lyney is criminally underrated by the community, I have him c3 and he’s among the strongest characters on my account(most of my characters have cons) he’s an absolute nuke with those high multipliers. Shame they always rerun him with other amazing characters I want😭

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому

      Just swipe 💳

    • @pedrocalebe6407
      @pedrocalebe6407 Місяць тому

      Mine is C3R1 as well, I didn't swipe, saved from 3.9 to 4.5, didn't get any other 5* since his first banner in 4.0
      People think Lyney is a boring CA spam like Ganyu, until they actually try to play him and give up because he's pretty hard to play since he has a lot of situational combos and animation cancels.
      He's not the strongest character in the game, but is certainly one of the top 5 in terms of vertical investment.
      Pretty much all of his cons and weapon give a significant increase to his personal dmg, while characters like Hu Tao only get that from C1R1
      He literally one shots everything, I've had Triple kenki fights that ended in less than 14 seconds.

    • @Kouku04
      @Kouku04 Місяць тому

      @@pedrocalebe6407he is one of the most popular dps in abyss speedrun according to CN tournament.

  • @anewfuture
    @anewfuture Місяць тому +33

    Feels like Hoyoverse does not have confidence in Chasca selling well, putting Zhongli and Neuv in the same patch.
    Zhongli is the best safety character in the game from a casual perspective, which is the majority of players. You can ignore most combat mechanics with him on the team. If you just want to get through the story, and aren't too concerned with min/maxing, he is a staple in your team.
    Neuv is just one of the best damage dealers in the game.

    • @os1583
      @os1583 Місяць тому +13

      You should've known Mihoyo by now. Zhongli-Neuv duo just to potentially drain f2p primos so there's an even greater chance to swipe for Mavuika when they drop her banger of a story in act5. Remember Furina? That's how they get their hundreds of millions.

    • @alphaomega9387
      @alphaomega9387 Місяць тому +3

      @@os1583and its okay, its already a f2p game. They need to earn money smh

    • @z.lahrour
      @z.lahrour Місяць тому +1

      Which will probably be the case once the archon leaks drop next patch, people will most likely focus on that and skip. She might get the pre-archon banner release misfortune.

  • @Havaach
    @Havaach Місяць тому +53

    Omg a layla team, I hope they don't release a new five star cryo shielder who can use cinder city set after 1 patch
    Also Neuvillette & Lyney having more banners than Shenhe is wild

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +41

      Yeah Citlali DEFINITELY won’t just be Layla powercreep and they DEFINITELY won’t release ANOTHER cryo shielder instead of actually making the element better 😆

    • @Havaach
      @Havaach Місяць тому +7

      ​@@FliponYT hoyo count your days😭

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Місяць тому +2

      Why they need to ruin my beautifull girl? Layla deserve better!

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      ​@reactiondavant-garde3391 3.2 -> 5.3 pretty long time. As a 4* it is more than what u can expect. We saw char who were useless just 2patches later.

  • @Mr_Univ3rse
    @Mr_Univ3rse Місяць тому +7

    That disgusting stick is making me rethink my Neuvillette pulls.
    Like why did it have to be zhongli? Would have been so much better if he was paired with Lyney or Chaska

  • @Kangoshi_ru
    @Kangoshi_ru Місяць тому +15

    Neuvillette C1 > chance of getting Zhongli's signature weapon.

    • @thepiggstein
      @thepiggstein Місяць тому +1

      I mean, which would you rather have losing your 50/50; Zhongli signature or C8 Qiqi?

    • @Kangoshi_ru
      @Kangoshi_ru Місяць тому +3

      @@thepiggstein Look, there's a 37.5% chance to get Zhongli's polearm, but only ~6.4% chance to get Qiqi. ;)

  • @ACatThatCantSing
    @ACatThatCantSing Місяць тому +24

    Lyney my BOIII I MUST GIVE HIM HIS HEADPATS

  • @f4llenleaves
    @f4llenleaves Місяць тому +5

    Will always recommend Zhongli for players below AR55 or so. Been playing since 1.3 as an AR60 player since Sumeru patches and my experience with middle AR had been a long uphill struggle both builds and survival-wise. Having the option to use Zhongli was such a blessing. Maximizing dmg and clearing the hardest content of the game isn't expected until around AR58 anyway. I don't regret allowing Zhongli to carry me until I was able to easily clear abyss and now imaginarium theater without him. Plus I hate the feel of dodging in Genshin anyway. I can't understand those who mock Genshin players who can't dodge because of Zhongli. Dodge and parry are so much easier in WuWa and other action games because they're integral and incentivized in the game's core mechanics (plus the clear visual cues) whereas in Genshin, dodge feels kinda like an i-frame cheat the players discovered and isn't even visually interesting or rewarding.
    As for me though, I'm getting Neuvillette's sig. I already have C1 Neuvillette C2 Furina, C2R2 Kazuha, and Xilonen (I'll see if I can get C2 next time). Tome really feels like a huge step up from Amber based on what I'm seeing everywhere. My weapon banner luck is dogshit though

  • @FischlInsultsMePls
    @FischlInsultsMePls Місяць тому +9

    Fischl, male Fischl and Fischl’s bow patch

  • @MufasaSama
    @MufasaSama Місяць тому +3

    Finally getting zhongli after suffering for almost 2 years without a strong shielder, I skipped him during fontaine banners cuz getting yelan and childe were priorities but now's the chance

    • @citoyenneteavanttout7273
      @citoyenneteavanttout7273 Місяць тому

      Same here, I thought I didn't need him for the longest time until I got him on my secondary account.... no I really want him on my main as well, it's just not the same.

  • @animalcrossingnewhorizonsi1061
    @animalcrossingnewhorizonsi1061 Місяць тому +6

    Considering the fact neuv has the best aoe and pretty good ST it’s pretty obvious who new players should pick

  • @matthewsarson6934
    @matthewsarson6934 Місяць тому +5

    I mean probably just saving for Mavuika makes the most sense. But seriously Nuvi is getting another rerun but Wriothesley who released the same patch is still wating on his first. The cryo hate is so real.

  • @michealrosen
    @michealrosen Місяць тому +11

    Still saving for wrio c1 oh well i guess I'll be able to make him c6 when hes released in patch 6.7

    • @NikocadosPopeyesChickenSandwic
      @NikocadosPopeyesChickenSandwic Місяць тому

      @@michealrosen I got his c6 and it’s definitely worth 😍

    • @isky6541
      @isky6541 Місяць тому

      I got him c2, so definetly getting him to c6 eventually

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому

      Who c6s wrio bro he is so lame💀😭

    • @isky6541
      @isky6541 Місяць тому

      @@Ventithegoatvent1_22 In what sense? Kit wise? I really like his design and personality, so that's the reason for me aside from making him stronger

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому

      @@isky6541 ehh I don't like his gameply

  • @Lynn.-_-.
    @Lynn.-_-. Місяць тому +10

    Ima get chasca and mauvika. I might be one of the 5 people who actually likes chascas design except the half pants they suck but she flys and has a gun so I'll overlook that. Should i get xilonen and other meta units to clear abyss? Probably but Will i get em? Nah. Abyss ain't even 1% of the time i spend on the game and i hate that shit. Ain't no way I'm even slightly gonna take that into account when pulling.

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +1

      I’m one of the other 5 people that likes chasca’s design

    • @Lynn.-_-.
      @Lynn.-_-. Місяць тому +2

      @@FliponYT 🤗 Guess only the other 3 are left to be found. XD

    • @tojisleftit
      @tojisleftit Місяць тому +1

      @@Lynn.-_-. im here, Hoping to get her early enough to get mavuika..

    • @clarifiedbutterpaintx
      @clarifiedbutterpaintx 29 днів тому

      ​@@Lynn.-_-. im one of them lol :D

  • @justomar4542
    @justomar4542 Місяць тому +5

    The only character that could make me use my primo other than mavuika is venti to complete the archon collection

  • @imibrahim1521
    @imibrahim1521 Місяць тому +12

    I saw Watchmojo Top 20 Genshin character and then I saw zajef do the same and i think Mojo wins this Om😂😂😂

  • @Not_SARU
    @Not_SARU Місяць тому +3

    so far the 5.2 banners reached a new low in relevance for my own account. Outside of chascas Bow for Dps faruzan (for whom it would be really good since its skill and ult dmg being 75-90% of dps faruzans dmg profile) which is only a gag strat i like to play like once every blue moon and for which i can repurpose one of my two skyward harps or FGM
    outside of that only ororon could possibly get me to pull on those banners but as it stands i still can get jumped by a neuvilette i dont want or a c1 zhongli i want even less
    so its a lose lose in all metrics

  • @crimsonECH1DNA
    @crimsonECH1DNA Місяць тому +5

    I'm that rare case where I run my Xiao on MH, so I'm okay playing Russian Roullette for Neuv's weapon because if I get Vortex, I'll just use it on Xiao.

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +12

      Aight bro go back to strongboxing vermillion

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому

      Who mains Xiao he is literally so unfun and boring 😭

    • @ventana6588
      @ventana6588 13 днів тому

      ​@@Ventithegoatvent1_22He's cool and hot

  • @bihaagnepaul4277
    @bihaagnepaul4277 Місяць тому +7

    Im probs gonna pull mavuika then wait for mualani rerun.

  • @alexsjarif
    @alexsjarif Місяць тому +19

    Only right answer is skip and save for mavuika

    • @Noname__55
      @Noname__55 Місяць тому +3

      Nope.
      Correct answer: Get both Neuvelette and Mavuika

    • @alexsjarif
      @alexsjarif Місяць тому +1

      @@Noname__55 nah neuv is overrated i do have him c0r0 and he is the best dps by far. Still not top 5 char in the game tho

    • @Noname__55
      @Noname__55 Місяць тому +5

      @@alexsjarif You don't value it cause you have it.
      Ask us new players who don't have good DPS to clear abyss.
      Neuvelette is very good for new players and a very flexible unit that works with so many teams.

    • @alexsjarif
      @alexsjarif Місяць тому

      @@Noname__55 well for new players i would still recommend characters like nahida who will come out in 2 weeks, furina, mavuika or xilonen now. For a dps u can go for strong ones like navia, alhaitham mualani, arlechino or neuvilette obv. But i wouldn’t recommend pulling for them if u dont got the right supports

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому

      ​@alexsjarif I am a new player and I just pull and just hope I win the 50/50 that it

  • @varunpasi3313
    @varunpasi3313 Місяць тому +1

    Been running Lyney Mono pyro since his release. Helped me reach floor 12 for first time. Worth pulling if you need another DPS and have Neuvilette already.

    • @ventana6588
      @ventana6588 13 днів тому

      I also wanna build Lyney mono pyro! My idea is to use Xiangling, Bennet, Sucrose and Lyney... Is that good? Is Lynnete better than Sucrose in this case? (I don't have kazuha)

  • @Chrisgarciam
    @Chrisgarciam Місяць тому +7

    Me who actually wants Yoimiya to finally have the pew pew team alongside Fischl but hearing Flip call her trash. 😭
    He right tho, I didn't skip her so many times by now for nothing lmao, still since I at last got C6 Chevy, I'm positive to give that team a try.

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому +1

      Yoimiya has like only 40% different then father so she isn't as bad as people say

    • @dcakadark
      @dcakadark Місяць тому

      40% you are so clueless

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому

      @@dcakadark k

    • @philkersonchong9848
      @philkersonchong9848 Місяць тому +1

      Yanfei c6 is better than yoimiya because she has AOE with similar single target dmg along with having blunt attacks as well as uses wanderer troupe set that is in abundance. Believe me, I tested both of them and it hurts. Played with yae miko chevreuse c1 fischl pyro onfielder. At least can clear abyss.

    • @Chrisgarciam
      @Chrisgarciam Місяць тому

      @@philkersonchong9848 Oh don't tell me that 😭, I'm still tryna cope with the idea that Yoimiya is good enough to justify getting her. Still, I'm gonna give Yanfei a shot then, she's pretty much almost 100% build since she was my first DPS, I'll see how she fares while I wait for the Koi girl rerun.

  • @Kouku04
    @Kouku04 Місяць тому +4

    Finally a creator who doesnt falsely think Lyney can only be play in monopyro! Thank you for the vid!
    There are so many content creators who doesnt know how to play Lyney and still lived in 4.0 where they think he can only be play in monopyro. Apart from the playstyle which doesnt suits alot of ppl tastes. The community really underestimated him as a whole.

  • @levi3248
    @levi3248 Місяць тому +3

    I think the bow needing a swirl is just for the atk buff, not the entire weapon passive

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +5

      That’s what I thought too but the wording was changed in v2 and it looks like you need to swirl for all its effects currently

  • @nk30020
    @nk30020 Місяць тому +4

    Lyney is harder to play the Arlecchino while also having lower dps ceiling than her, meanwhile shark girl is also harder to play but actually having a higher dps ceiling than Arlecchino, so what's the point of Lyney anymore ?

    • @wolf-c9t
      @wolf-c9t Місяць тому +2

      The point is that he's still one of the better dps units (and one that can fit in many team variations just like his dad) and if you like him you will be more than happy to get him. That is mainly the conversation because the way people talk about him its almost like he's cyno level or significantly worse than arlecchino which just isn't true at c0 level.

    • @Ventithegoatvent1_22
      @Ventithegoatvent1_22 Місяць тому +3

      The point is just pull who you want is not that deep

    • @Kouku04
      @Kouku04 Місяць тому +1

      Despite being a newly released unit. That shark girl has such a poor usage rate though and we also have neuvillete which is clearly better and easier than shark girl. So what’s the point of pulling for her?
      Lyney dmg can still compete with arle in speedrun content unlike the rest of pyro dps including hutao.

  • @deathinabottle6759
    @deathinabottle6759 Місяць тому +3

    Big L for Neuvillette mains who want his weapon. I guess I'll settle for C3

  • @Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe
    @Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe Місяць тому +1

    to put it simple:
    if you main neuvelette and you dont have his C1 even if xilonen is better for his teams zhongli would be the must pull one here. neuvelette without his C1 is almost impossible to play without a shielder since he gets interrupted easily. if you have both xilonen and C1 then the best thing you can get in this patch it Neuvelette's weapon.
    if you dont have Neuvelette then hes the one to go for in this version
    lyney if you like him or need a pyro dps
    chasca is still not fully reccomended right i'd say wait for those pre-acceses videos

  • @butterfly-f6c
    @butterfly-f6c Місяць тому

    That mekamaru's reference to lyney's setup explains all with just one image

  • @WildspeakerYT
    @WildspeakerYT Місяць тому +1

    Bro using Nikke OST at 7:38 Cherry Blossom CAUGHT

  • @jthompson7024
    @jthompson7024 Місяць тому +3

    I'm so glad I already have C1R1 Neuvilette. Spending wishes right before an archon releases is PAINFUL

  • @k5nz15
    @k5nz15 Місяць тому +1

    the 1st mic sounds better 💀💀

  • @cheese1008
    @cheese1008 Місяць тому +1

    It’s crazy that only are 2 support spears after 4 years.

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому

      Who ? Xl and mika ?

    • @cheese1008
      @cheese1008 Місяць тому

      @@anonymousgreen5080 moonpiercer and favonius. though for characters rosaria and xl* mika, shenhe, yunjin, zhongli candace chevreuse all held back by weapons options or lack there of in this case.

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      @@cheese1008 oh weapons. i thought char. my bad.

  • @yaniqiare__6194
    @yaniqiare__6194 Місяць тому +2

    Neuve and lyney got 2 reruns before wrio even got 1 💀💀

  • @hana-772
    @hana-772 Місяць тому +6

    full on copium that they will change the banner order and neuvillette book will be with lyney bow

  • @DXcellence718Returns
    @DXcellence718Returns Місяць тому +2

    5.2 will be a skip for my account. Got my xilonen and i already have zhongli. Not going for nev cause i have c1 mualani(very strong character where ive peaked at a 1.6m E on the last abyss). While nev is temping it just seems unwise to randomly get him now. Maybe If i had furina id probably go for him but for context i am a day 1 player who took a 2+ year break right before sumeru so i missed out on hyperbloom meta and fontaine stuff. I just recently came back during the emilie banner(ended up getting her and will forever love that decision, shes def nice to have considering shes my only dendro unit).
    I just think its kinda unwise for my specific account to be investing in non natlan units right now. Well at least until mavuika passes who will for sure elevate the mualani comp. Then ill pray for a furina rerun again as shes the only rerun im interested.

  • @dragold456
    @dragold456 Місяць тому

    I can’t wait to get my pyro bow dps. He’s my only worthy pull (I’ll pull hydro worm when after capitano comes around)

  • @aarambhamalla4660
    @aarambhamalla4660 Місяць тому +5

    With the discussion that Citlali is also a shielder, is zhongli's pull value even lower🤔🤔

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +1

      Depending on how strong she shields and what other utility she offers then yes

    • @constantine2687
      @constantine2687 Місяць тому +10

      ​@@FliponYTif she can use cinder city artifact set... yeah zhongli has fallen

    • @kurokenstein
      @kurokenstein Місяць тому +1

      Waiting for the leaks is the best answer lol

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      Leaks said she strong than layla but weaker than zhongli. And she applies more cryo (for shatter i think). STC ofc

  • @thesleepylord
    @thesleepylord Місяць тому

    i wanna pull for zhongli and neuvy's signature weapon so bad even after that if i still have any primos left ill pull for c1 neuvy anything for him

  • @Yelan-n8d
    @Yelan-n8d Місяць тому

    Thank goodness i pulled c1 Wrio. Now waiting for shenhe.

  • @eff-fume
    @eff-fume Місяць тому +1

    As a lyney shill I kind have to interject and say calling him a charged attack dps is a bit misleading. Yes charge attacks are a very important part of his kit and do significant damage but he is more of a detonate character. The ca and ultimate are there to give him stacks and his detonation of this stacks through his skill are what does a fuck Ton of damage (ofc like many other characters his technique scaling is on his NA not the skill itself). I actually think he has one of the most rounded Kits as he actually uses skill and ult intetchangeibly and are necessities for his playstyle meanwhile other ca or na spammers out right ignore their ult since it is in certain team comps not even a damage increase and their skill is just an Infusion. I have had a lot of fun since I got him and I by far am not using him entirely optimally with a speed run Performance.

  • @chinofan
    @chinofan Місяць тому

    Chasca: Next time
    Neuvillette: Have already
    Lyney: I want Zhongli

  • @FlareBattle
    @FlareBattle Місяць тому

    Welp. Here goes another constellation for the magician boi

  • @Sky_901
    @Sky_901 Місяць тому +1

    I'm about to commit the cardinal sin of going after Chasca over Nahida or Zhongli because I like seeing lots of different color numbers on my screen

  • @genevievemccluer7503
    @genevievemccluer7503 Місяць тому +1

    Hey, you technically don't need Bennett for Lyney, if you invest an absurd amount in the team lol, with C2r1 Xilonen I finally managed to escape from him and actually do more damage without him. C2r1 Lyney, C2r1key Furina, C2r1 Xilonen, and fav Xiangling is managing to out damage the Bennett versions from all of my tests.

    • @ReallytallRosa
      @ReallytallRosa Місяць тому +2

      Well I mean obviously a bunch of vertically invested 5 stars are going to out buff a 4 star lol

    • @genevievemccluer7503
      @genevievemccluer7503 Місяць тому +2

      @@ReallytallRosa You'd think so, but plenty of them still lose to Bennett.

    • @ethanthepro3686
      @ethanthepro3686 Місяць тому

      ​@@genevievemccluer7503Wouldn't replacing Xiangling with Bennett be better in that team?

    • @genevievemccluer7503
      @genevievemccluer7503 Місяць тому +1

      @@ethanthepro3686 It's much worse, I've tested it. It means Lyney is the one vaping which means he does more damage, but Furina does massively less damage. You lose out on around a million damage per rotation.

    • @ethanthepro3686
      @ethanthepro3686 Місяць тому

      @@genevievemccluer7503 Actually surprising to hear with a C2 Lyney, since he wouldn't just be doing more damage from vaping but also getting buffed by Bennett. Are you getting a pyro or a hydro crystallize in that team? If it is hydro, that makes sense that Furina vaping would be more important then.

  • @SpicyFox-0
    @SpicyFox-0 Місяць тому

    I’ll get my C2 Lyney this round
    (C0R1 on his release, C1 on his rerun and another constellation now hehe)

  • @vladdy8
    @vladdy8 Місяць тому

    at first i was interested in chasca, especially if she runs together with lyney (got him too and i dont have his weapon) so the weapon banner would be a W. But I was also thinking about neuvi's c1 or signature (although my neuvillette is already strong enough to the point where it seems pointless to upgrade him even more). Hoyo got me good with these banners

  • @H3kaman
    @H3kaman Місяць тому

    Oh great Fischl prophet, I only have c0 Fischl and I want cons. Please wish me great fortune with this upcoming fischl banner, I do not need another 135 pulls one fischl incident :prayge:

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому

      I grant thy the best luck pulling for mein fraulein

  • @MrMoros1
    @MrMoros1 Місяць тому

    I'm mostly saving up for Mavuika to try and get her to C2 R1. I'm balancing my finances right now to get the double Primogems purchase to get 100 Intertwined Fates at once and I already have another 115 right now. As for before that, other characters largely don't interest me. I'll probably get Xilonen on her re-run, so I'll have to skip her for now.
    Regarding characters in 2.2, I don't really have many concerns. I have Zhongli at C1 with the White Tassel, which is all he really needs. Chasca looks cool, but she just doesn't being enough to the game for me to splurge on her. Lyney? He's cool, but I've already got Arlecchino at C1 R1 AND Hu Tao, I won't need another Pyro DPS unless it blows both of them completely out of the water.
    My only possible draw is Neuvillette, and I already have him at C2 with Sacrificial Jade at R5. I MIGHT think of getting his Signature Weapon, but it's a big IF because I already have a good substitute.

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому

      Sac jade R5 is already on par with his signature 😭 no need to go for it

  • @SasukeUchihaSS123
    @SasukeUchihaSS123 Місяць тому +3

    hey guys! I already 36* the abyss and I was wondering who to pull, I really like archons and I'm only missing Zhongli, but for main dps I don't have hydro (only have navia, arleccino, alhaitam), and I only have xilonen and Navia as my geo characters, I'll maybe have 20k primos by the time the banner comes, should I pull or wait for mavuika?

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +2

      Mavuika will probably buff al teammates by giving nightsoul points meaning u can have effects with non natlan char. As for neuvi yes he is super powerf. I hsve his c1. Still i think if u have arle alhaitham etc then u can get him later. Go her.

    • @SasukeUchihaSS123
      @SasukeUchihaSS123 Місяць тому +1

      @@anonymousgreen5080 ty for ur response!

  • @ronin7531
    @ronin7531 Місяць тому

    I kinda want c1 neuvi, but I've been doing so many duo /solo runs in abyss 12 with him c0, that i think I'll manage without his c1, will probably do 10-30 just in case - since I'm at 50/50 so it's whatever

  • @RouththeRLPanda
    @RouththeRLPanda Місяць тому +1

    I use vortex vanquisher on zhongli because it looks pretty

    • @abolfazlkazemi6493
      @abolfazlkazemi6493 Місяць тому

      Me too I want zhongli c1r1 with vortex I love you also I hate see zhongli with staff homa zhongli is my favourite character I want

  • @Aakash--K
    @Aakash--K Місяць тому

    I have perfect team for neuvillette like zhongli, kazuha and faurina i will get him no matter what( i garanteen though and i only need 15 pulls )

  • @Kakarot.K
    @Kakarot.K Місяць тому +2

    Will Vortex Vanquisher make my Zhongli do more pyro damage than a c6 Ayato?

  • @surenaideh
    @surenaideh Місяць тому

    Nah i'd say now that we have fat geo shields on ennemies zhong is finally relevant for any accounts. Besides being the best shield and a decent buffer. He feels even better with the new support set

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      But he only gives 12% with new set since he doesnt have nightsoul points. With xilonen or kachina u will get 40%

    • @surenaideh
      @surenaideh Місяць тому

      @@anonymousgreen5080 true, but res shred has fast diminishing return. I tried a mono pyro lyney team and he shreds almost as much as kachina (considering he provides a shield and highest geo app too that's pretty valuable).

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      @@surenaideh i was not talking about res shred. ofc res shred has diminishing returns. u can use cinder city becoz it gives 40% dmg bonus. zhongli provides 12% if u use that set. considering how good obsidian codex is for natlan characters, u farm for those pieces and use it on xilo/kachina.

    • @surenaideh
      @surenaideh Місяць тому

      @@anonymousgreen5080 oh that's your point. Yeah defo. Not to mention in the futur other characters could city, making these geo characters use petra

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +2

      @surenaideh only thing is archaic petra 2pc buff is useless whereas cinder city gives 6energy. The more concerning issue is stacking. Becoz archaic petra buff lasts for only 10sec. Cinder city lasts for 20sec. I am thinking mavuika will probably do something so everyone can trigger cinder city set. Like we saw furina who changes hp so that anyone can use marachausse hunter set. 🤔

  • @Ottobon
    @Ottobon Місяць тому +6

    Chasca because i have eyes rather then opinions from twitter
    i only like lyney for picture stories where he gets extremely bullied by old women, but that doesn't mean i'd pull him i'm not a old women its not my job personally, i respect women's jobs

    • @ulrikruby
      @ulrikruby Місяць тому +4

      I love Chasca’s design but hate her gameplay, so I can’t justify pulling her.

    • @lkd338
      @lkd338 Місяць тому +1

      Me too which is sad bc I love her and apparently she's not very f2p friendly. Better to skip these banners and save up for Mavuika

    • @ulrikruby
      @ulrikruby Місяць тому

      @@lkd338 Why is she not F2P friendly?

    • @lkd338
      @lkd338 Місяць тому +1

      @@ulrikruby according to people who have gone over her kit, she's pretty dependant on her signature weapon/ C1

    • @ulrikruby
      @ulrikruby Місяць тому

      @@lkd338 As far as I understand, her C1 just allows you to play in teams with 3 different elements rather than 4. And R1 is about a 20% damage increase from what I’ve heard, which definitely isn’t needed with how easy Genshin is.

  • @rohanbob5157
    @rohanbob5157 Місяць тому

    273 pulls for mavuika nothing will stop me from getting my queen

  • @vincikeeper1581
    @vincikeeper1581 Місяць тому

    Ain't no way Lyney has a rerun already when he was in 4.6, while others waiting for a year.

  • @schopenhauer5427
    @schopenhauer5427 Місяць тому

    Already lost Neuv's weapon twice: 220 pulls down the drain. At least now it's guaranteed in 160, which I have, so goodbye Mavuika I guess

  • @Panpanpaja
    @Panpanpaja Місяць тому

    I would love to pull for Neuvi cons or more Zhongli cons but I'm going to save for Mavuika (I lost all my primos to Xilonen and her weapon xD).

  • @blessanabey5575
    @blessanabey5575 Місяць тому

    Man everytime I need a must pull dps character I have no guarantee pity.

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      Shouldnt u be getting capturing radiance ? Like if u lose 2 5050s then u have 75% chance to trigger it and u win. If u lost 3 5050s in a row then its 100% u win thw 5050

    • @blessanabey5575
      @blessanabey5575 Місяць тому

      @@anonymousgreen5080 I got kazuha last time, so that means it reset to 50 50 right and Im pretty sure I won't be getting what I want unless I'm very lucky.

    • @anonymousgreen5080
      @anonymousgreen5080 Місяць тому +1

      @@blessanabey5575 ok so u won 5050 for kazuha ?

  • @lancehalzen
    @lancehalzen Місяць тому

    Saving my guarantee for mavuika.

  • @nickcheung1277
    @nickcheung1277 Місяць тому

    I just want zhongli bc i like him, hes my fave character after all. Idc bout his shield since imma build him burst dps probably. His ult is just so cool, and ofcourse his personality and lore too. So imma use alll my wishes for him idc😊

  • @thelakes_s
    @thelakes_s Місяць тому

    chascas gonna have to wait i need dragon man's c1
    praying i can get that and mavuika

  • @varunpasi3313
    @varunpasi3313 Місяць тому

    I want sig for my Lyney he's just 46 over 166 CD. Still does 100k damage. But I also want Neuvi and his sig and also big dong Zhong. But I was also saving for Mavuika ahhhhhhhh

  • @R4vel
    @R4vel Місяць тому +1

    I hecking love my anemo on field driver that requires a pee aich E see teammates

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +1

      Pee aich e see is diabolical

    • @julieniscute
      @julieniscute Місяць тому

      @@FliponYTwhat does phez mean im out of the team comp loop

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому

      @@julieniscute PHEC means
      Pyro
      Hydro
      Electro
      Cryo
      More convenient than listing them all out lol

    • @julieniscute
      @julieniscute Місяць тому

      @@FliponYT thank you goat🐐🐐

  • @jorgetoledo6358
    @jorgetoledo6358 Місяць тому +1

    Is this weapon banner good enough for Fischl??
    I think that the Lyney bow was a bit worse than Aqua and the others but it still is really good and the new one is the exact same thing but with 8% less attack.

  • @ToeKat922
    @ToeKat922 Місяць тому +1

    I thought adc meant attack damage carry, being generalized as a dps unit

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +1

      Nope it just refers to the artifact main stats they use.

    • @ToeKat922
      @ToeKat922 Місяць тому

      @@FliponYT In other games (mostly mobas like league) adc would refer to dps units

  • @Lukz243
    @Lukz243 Місяць тому

    This'll be a 'skip for Mavuika' patch, since I already have Neuvi (C1R1) and Zhongli (C0R0).
    I like Lyney teamcomp as a concept, but I dislike the fact that the only off-field pyro Pyro DPS we have at the moment is Xiangling.
    Aa for Chasca, I liked her during the archon quest, but I dislike the character design (since it's assymetry without purpose)

  • @coffeeking9565
    @coffeeking9565 Місяць тому

    God, i hope ororon isnt being ran on these banners. I want him, but i was banking on wrio being ran or him being on the archon banner.

    • @volfawott7417
      @volfawott7417 Місяць тому

      Sorry he is going to be in 5.2 we don't know which phase tho.
      Personally I'm hoping for first phase with Chasca because I want both and getting to pull for them on the same banner is a primo saver

  • @db1777
    @db1777 Місяць тому

    All I want is one copy of Wriothesley Hoyo. JUST ONE.

  • @irvintransformers2890
    @irvintransformers2890 Місяць тому

    I alr have zhongli neuvi and lyney so i might skip 4 mavuika or captain but chasca is RLY tempting bc i always loved anemo characters as my first good dps was heizou so tis a hard decision but even if i wanted to pull for chasca i alr pulled nahida and have literally 0 pity with only abt 25 wishs so might as well save for cap or mavuika

  • @keneunaegbu851
    @keneunaegbu851 Місяць тому

    C1 Neuvillete so that he doesn't feel like ass to play with Xilonen in place of Zhongli

  • @AmbroseVermillion
    @AmbroseVermillion Місяць тому

    Yes, I want Neuvillette C2 just because I like the character. Sorry Mavuika

  • @NahualUlloa
    @NahualUlloa Місяць тому

    Already pulled Xilonen and now waiting for Mavuika.
    Cryo btw 💀

  • @asmewdeus
    @asmewdeus Місяць тому

    I've already got c6 Lyney, so I'm gonna attempt to r5 his weapon (or get as far as I can).

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +1

      Slide me a 20 too gang

    • @asmewdeus
      @asmewdeus Місяць тому

      @@FliponYT 😭I'm free to play, i swear!

  • @ajbrawlstars8844
    @ajbrawlstars8844 Місяць тому +1

    Hopefully i get 1 last copy of fishcl plzz be with ororon too🙏🙏

  • @bandit2692
    @bandit2692 Місяць тому

    yeahh unless i decide to go for neuvs weapon, this is prolly gonna be a skip patch. neuvs weapon would be a massive upgrade but it would also mean farming new artifacts since his cr would drop. i also really don't want zhongli's poverty stick.

  • @odin1303
    @odin1303 Місяць тому

    Fischl please be on Neuvillette 🙏 (I already have her c6 I just want to see her in my pulls)

  • @Gilolicon
    @Gilolicon Місяць тому +1

    lmao the mic change

  • @abolfazlkazemi6493
    @abolfazlkazemi6493 Місяць тому

    My save wish 380 75 pity for zhongli c1 or c2 with vortex his weapon my crush my favourite character coming finale 🥳

  • @yoshad.a
    @yoshad.a Місяць тому

    I’m not gonna lie I don’t really care abt Chasca, since im not rlly an anemo enjoyer, HOWEVER I am saving for Neuvillette and Zhongli, bcuz I js want neuvi and I started playing becuz of zhongli, so it’s a 2-in-1 for me

  • @juice3287
    @juice3287 Місяць тому +2

    do i pull the magician’s king for my own account or do i save for mavuika, hmmmmmmm…
    tbf this patch is realistically a skip for mavuika but running lyney & neuvi in the same patch is DIABOLICAL

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому

      Mavuika save is looking to be the best option 😭

  • @hanchengjun275
    @hanchengjun275 Місяць тому

    Chasca looks way too expensice for my mostly F2P small spender ass. I already have Arlecchino and Zhongli so lyney is out of the consideration. The only consideration is Neuv who dodged me twice already, but I have his Sig already. So i am going to pull C1 Neuv in one patch (hard cope, more like C69 qiqi) then save for Mavuika and Citlatli.

  • @maddasher8471
    @maddasher8471 Місяць тому

    why do I feel like they intentionally broke Neuvillette so that he sell well in his rerun.

  • @vallar57
    @vallar57 Місяць тому

    Didn't they clarify that Chasca fires bullets explicitly in "Last in first out" order, no rng?

    • @FliponYT
      @FliponYT  Місяць тому +2

      If you are playing Bennett Furina Layla
      You can either fire a Pyro Pyro Hydro Cryo
      Or
      Hydro Pyro Cryo Cryo which changes things a lot

  • @izanagiuzumaki7325
    @izanagiuzumaki7325 Місяць тому

    Not interested in Lyney or Chasca so hoping Ororon isn't running with them. Idk who I'd be willing to deal with getting while trying to snipe Ororon.

  • @helmet8493
    @helmet8493 Місяць тому

    Im pulling hutao for now but I might pull neuvillete if I get the primogems for him *cries in f2p

  • @anhelaanhela4996
    @anhelaanhela4996 Місяць тому

    I wanted Neuvi weapon so bad but Prototype Amber it is ig...

  • @Mekeweissame
    @Mekeweissame Місяць тому

    Endgame combat is like 0.5% of gameplay 😭 you should pull Chasca bc not only can she fly, but with Ororon and Kinich in her team you might literally never have to touch the ground in Natlan again.

  • @Shadowenclave47
    @Shadowenclave47 Місяць тому

    I dislike charged attack bow dps characters so Chasca and Lyney are easy skips for me and i already have Neuvillette and Zhongli. Im tempted to go far Neuvillette C1 but im going to wait and see if Mavuika will have OP cons like the previous Archons and i also want Arlecchino if she reruns in 5.3 and i should have enough pulls to guarantee at least 2 limited 5* by 5.3.

  • @travisherndon94
    @travisherndon94 Місяць тому +1

    Got a question is zhongli worth getting or waiting for his rerun again, i missed him the other times during his reruns due to other characters coming out in the next phase or didn't have the money and i know i want to pull for chasca and if mavuika does come out in 5.3 i just don't want to feel like i wasted primos on a character that while i like character wise, gameplay wise don't enjoy. so i wanted to ask is he worth going for now or just wait for a another rerun in the future?

    • @kavithakandeepan5529
      @kavithakandeepan5529 Місяць тому

      well depends on the situation if you want shielder then go for zhongli.what is important to know is if you want maviuka she will have her rerun in 4 patches but for zhongli it may take a year or more

    • @travisherndon94
      @travisherndon94 Місяць тому

      @@kavithakandeepan5529 oh okay i didn't know that when it came to the reruns did that happen with furina ?

    • @kavithakandeepan5529
      @kavithakandeepan5529 Місяць тому

      @@travisherndon94 yes every archon have their reruns after 4 patches

    • @travisherndon94
      @travisherndon94 Місяць тому

      @@kavithakandeepan5529 oh okay thank you for telling me that

  • @Avee21
    @Avee21 7 днів тому

    I’m a Hu Tao main, should I go for Zhongli to get a good shielder?? Or is he not really needed because I have been playing without him for like 3 years so idk

  • @NonamE-0256
    @NonamE-0256 Місяць тому +1

    Wait. Cant u use the new cinder set on Zhongli ? Its better than petra and tenacity. Its viable.

    • @NonamE-0256
      @NonamE-0256 Місяць тому

      @@bloodmay no right? Its 2 piece buff. Getting some energy.

    • @NonamE-0256
      @NonamE-0256 Місяць тому

      @@bloodmay okok 👌

    • @jorgetoledo6358
      @jorgetoledo6358 Місяць тому

      ​@@bloodmay 12% DMG might be better than tenacity and it's easier and faster to use than Petra.
      It would always be better to use that set on a Natlan character but I think that if your team doesn't have any it's a decent option

    • @jorgetoledo6358
      @jorgetoledo6358 Місяць тому +1

      @@bloodmay it's not EM, the set says Elemental damage bonus, it's 12% for everybody and an extra 28% for Nathan characters that's why it is 40% DMG bonus for Xilonen