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I'm a part of the band Saigon Kick and I've been all over the world with gold albums under our belt. But I must say, a dive bar is a wonderful experience. You suck it up and understand that this show isn't about money AT ALL!! This is about your music and your fans that care enough to hear those songs live no matter what. Also, they are very personal shows and leave you feeling wonderful about the gig.
@@Mr8ohms I've never been exploited. The bands manager and lawyers have always made sure of that. Even though Ticketmaster is pretty much the mafia at this point..
At 27:51, you can watch corporate greed squeeze out some of the last remaining goodness left in the music industry. We don't deserve people like Tom, but if it wasn’t for people like him, we wouldn't have a live music industry to corrupt.
1981 watched Van Halen 3 nights in a row at Philadelphia Spectrum . .all 3 nights pressed against the security boards mid-floor . . .all 3 nights less than 25 $ . . . . $7.50 a ticket . . .
I remember seeing my favorite bands for 20 bucks a pop at smaller venues about 25 years ago now these bands are playing the big venues and stuff another tickets go for insane prices I just can't afford to see these bands anymore I wish these bands would start playing small venues again it was a lot more fun to see them bands at a small venue than it was at a larger venue
Monopolies ALWAYS end up VERY bad for the consumer (and every part of the chain beneath them). We used to understand that not so long ago! As companies, and shareholders, grew more and more risk averse, including the 'Government' Corporation we seemed to turn a blind eye more and more! It is a BIG problem for all Economies that WILL have horrific consequences if we don't find different Economic Models. We end up with a time when MOST people will ONLY be able to afford the necessities (Fuel, Housing, Water etc). NO 'Luxuries'. And its a case of when not if!!!
Earlier this year I saw The Record Company and the venue used Axs for tickets. The show was a mid-week show so the price was on the lower side ( $25 I think.) and the flat fee of $3.50. I always check the venue or band website to get the tickets. Sometimes they can be cheaper.
I went to a show at a venue that has a max capacity a little over 1000 people this past weekend. Headliner and two opening bands that were part of the tour. No local band. Standing room only. The tickets were sold through Ticketmaster and were $28 before fees. The fees nearly doubled the cost. Then add in parking that was another $20 for 4 hours. And don't get me started on drink prices.
It would be interesting to see information on pandora. I recently was added and I wanted to know what bands I sounded like and I see that they have my music but it won't set up a radio station with it. I suspect that it could take time or maybe they don't compare every artist that they have music for.
Make it illegal to resell tickets for more than face value (including any fees). This will stop ticketmaster profiting off touts who take tickets away from actual fans and profiting off double dipping fees
NFTs could fix it fix this problem you could use different protocols in the NFT like distributing royalties to artist directly or self-destruct features after transferred without proper approval
Bottom line is that a ton of the average music fans' money is going to a huge corporation whose CEO gets 139 million in one year. One person! It sucks. I used to see many shows in the 80's 90's and 00's. Now it's like a big financial commitment that not all of this larger sum of the money is going to the artist. Probably less. It sucks. And it's happened to several other areas of out lives.
I saw Rob Zombie in Omaha for 15 bucks a ticket total was under 50 bucks. Not a small venue. Not close seats but floor. I saw 5fdb last month (in Las Vegas) the 60 dallor tickets cost me 300 bucks balcony seats. So three times the price for worst seats. Ten years between the shows.
I wonder are deals with labels ever public record? I assume not, but I often wonder how good of a deal some artists really got. In the case of The Warning they negotiated for 8 months and say they got what they wanted (I believeit), but is there a way to actually see it? If it is good, it would be great for other artists to see whats possible or not.
There are a lot of critics of government oversight and regulation, but as you can see with this topic if it wasn't for the oversight these big corporations would continue to take advantage of and manipulate the "free market" completely in their favor. Government moves slow. It takes a long time for them to catch up with these companies, but they eventually do.
My 2 cents for your question, I think time, study, and patience are what’s necessary. Time: the music industry is collapsing in more ways than one and will eat itself alive ever since Napster days. Study: gaining understanding of the paradigm shift thru channels such as yours to advance successfully as an artist. Patience: although hard to come by, given with time a new structure can potentially develop that will benefit the artist and their fans more than the industry could. Plus with war on the horizon, I imagine from the ashes a new renaissance of music will come. Really enjoy your channel and topics, keep ‘em coming!
I was on Napster the night 100 simultaneous users were on (before Napster went “viral”.) It’s been crazy how everything went. I supported the Artists I liked but had a don’t give a shit attitude about the Industry itself. After Napster, Bands made all their money touring, now you can’t make money either way. The 360 deals some artists have signed is ludicrous, that is why Prince did what he did.
So...breaking up Ticketmaster and LiveNation would be like the breakup of the Bell companies. As long as the new companies don't conspire with each other regarding fees, it could be beneficial. It's been almost two years since I last attended a live concert, and then it was at a small town music festival that was sponsored by the town, in a venue controlled by the town, and they were able to keep the ticket prices down. I can count the number of artists that I'm willing to pay more than $50 to see live on the fingers of one hand, with fingers to spare.
Yea, I've missed out on many a classic show because fuck that I don't have $400-$1000 to blow on a show every few weeks. I have to choose very carefully.
Ms. Krystal You overlook one thing. It's the relationship that the artist management and booking agent have with corporate America which is steering the artist into that direction. It's like this they tell the artist 'you're not going to get this tour unless you agree to the stipulations so what is it we got 30 other B list artist that want to take your place right now.' You do wanna be famous don't you? There's a sucker born every day
@@angie99656 Yea, back then it seems like you could afford to see every major concert that rolled thru, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, McCartney, Pink Floyd, and any other band you wanted to see. Nowadays, not so much. The price for the '94 Floyd tour (basically The Pulse concert - $32.50.)
@@jorhanson8583 yeah I remember concerts being between 30 and 60 in the 90s and still being like okay I can pay this but when they started showing up with $300 tickets I just could not respect whatever was going on anymore. This was all supposed to be popular music for ordinary people but ordinary people could no longer go.
Solution? Don't buy a ticket for more than $100. If you don't buy them for more, then the scalpers won't be able to sell them, and there will be more available for the basic price. eliminates the scalpers and reduces the revenues for the promoters. Recently went o the Sammy Hagar 2024 tour, paid $65 for lawn seats. That's about the most I'm willing to spend. May go to a smaller show this weekend for Dirty Honey, tickets are $35.
I'm so lucky to have seen The Cure in Frankfurt Festhalle, with reserved seats halfway on the balcony, for only 68€ in 2022. Prices like this should be the norm.
In economics there's a difference between earning money by creating value and what is called "rent seeking". Rent seeking is about extracting value by controlling access at a choke point. The entire point of monopolies is that they allow unfettered rent seeking. So we need to either break up the monopolies or regulate their prices, like we've frequently done for utilities.
If a band would record a video where they take a portable PA system to Ticketmaster headquarters and cause a ruckus, I would be a fan of theirs for life!
A while ago you were making updates about one of your clients that was trying to get his money back that the distributor tried to say he use fake streams did he ever get his music and money back
It's too bad it's taken so long for the justice dept to take this on. It's probably gonna be in the courts for a few years. Meanwhile the damage to the industry has been catastrophic and continues unchecked. Time is of the essence to correct this meaningfully.
Quick frame of reference the Pabst Theater is owned by a small group of people that owns several local venues in Milwaukee. They made it sound like he was a sole owner of a small singular venue. Pretty sure they also have a hand/interest in one of the bigger business/lobbying groups for independent venues nationwide. We do like getting tickets at their box offices (we go to several of their venues regularly) to save the fees. We also don't go to big shows at large venues more than once every few years because popular music is largely garbage.
These large companies have been forcing out the little guys since the late 1800's. The Music Industry is just a small fraction of their pie. But have no doubt, they own the whole pie!
I swear, all i ever wanted to do is play music and have spent 26 yrs learning how to play and studying music theory to learn that its all been a big scam. I sure have wasted my life...
I found a solution. I sell tickets directly on my website, and because i am not a ticketing company the venue is not in breach of its contract. As an added perk selling tickets direct, while fans are on my site getting tickets they see online merch for sale also, potentially a new fit for the gig 😁🧙🏻♂️
Why is it that European venues won't even allow ticketmaster or livenation to do business in their countries, but here in the US those two entities run everything! Disgusting
Re: 6:30 Tom MacDonald is a perfect example of an independent musician who was able to connect with fans regardless of record label. Well a lot of people out there make songs about love he is making songs about the economy and other topics that are on people's minds. There's nothing wrong with making songs about love but the Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande and Beyonce's of the world pretty much have a monopoly on those. Rapping about issues that are kitchen table discussions is how Mr MacDonald (along with his low budget but still high quality music videos) got people's attention.
Yeah, but with Tom Macdonald there’s starting to be a problem with him now, for me, he seems to be just an internet artist……, what about doing a tour…..
It’s not 2 times for the fees of resell. It’s 3. I had to resell a ticket because my friend couldn’t come to the show. So I put it on TM. When I choose the price, let say 70$, TM tells me that I will receive 59$. And when the ticket is sold, they charge the other person that buys the ticket. A cut on me twice and a cut on the new buyer. It’s legal theft.
Yeah, I don't go to big concerts. Ticketmaster hasn't gotten any of my money. Maybe that's not a great solution, but it's the solution that I have the power to put into practice.
I’m not usually into having government step in on private business practices, however, I do think what these corporations are doing is potentially criminal.
Stop feeding that which starves us. Do not go to any LiveNation or Ticketmaster shows. Do not support venues who work with them. Do not support artists who work with them. Complacency is complicity and complicity is guilt.
How can you say artists can change how they work when your own video clearly stated that even the largest acts are powerless? Most of the acts who need tickmaster/LN are playing to sub 1000 seat venues and make less money than an attorney. Probably closer to an electrician or school teacher
Oh please... that looks like any little dive bar in the country, and how long have they (not necessarily this place but the gazzillions like it all across the country, especially SoCal) ripped off local up and coming musicians and bands with their pay to play. Ticketmaster is not stealing their business.
Well maybe if fans all stood up for what's right and stopped paying these stupid prices it might stop. But no, it's way too much to ask. People would rather pay stupid prices than sacrifice for justice. This is what we get from capitalism. Is it really a good system...really?
🗣 Aye somebody tell da lawyer lady livenation charging $30k fah 200 cap venues da fgn math ain’t mathing how many mfz yall got working ahh 200 cap venue where you need some peoples entire years salary fah ahhh few hours work my bah Tom managing ahh 400 cap by him damn self what’s your sorry ahhh excuse yall charging hiphop acts extra on top of that too fah “security” just say yo ahhh don’t got insurance mf we let yall mfz have streaming and da facade of being “lit” your poor business choices is making youz mfz greedy and desperate 🧾🧐
I think with real music By real musicians~! That They will need to have the producers to be part of the band that shares equity! Because if the the Musicians need a producer'$. The Producer can't become the Parasite'$ attaching themselves to the Musicians & Bands! They have to become all as one! The musicians need to own their own equipment! The places they play at need to charge the old ways! Musicians Should be able to sell their music by their Email~ Having the ''old ways'' as the best! When the wealth was spread around!
You do the work, and they take pay. They make it easy to get work, but they make it hard to pay the bills. You have been downgraded from the big dog in a small forest to a tiny fish in an ocean.
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I'm a part of the band Saigon Kick and I've been all over the world with gold albums under our belt. But I must say, a dive bar is a wonderful experience. You suck it up and understand that this show isn't about money AT ALL!! This is about your music and your fans that care enough to hear those songs live no matter what. Also, they are very personal shows and leave you feeling wonderful about the gig.
@@Mr8ohms I've never been exploited. The bands manager and lawyers have always made sure of that. Even though Ticketmaster is pretty much the mafia at this point..
I have the single cassette still for Love is on the way.
There was a club in Toronto called Saigon Kick in Toronto that is now a condo building
At 27:51, you can watch corporate greed squeeze out some of the last remaining goodness left in the music industry. We don't deserve people like Tom, but if it wasn’t for people like him, we wouldn't have a live music industry to corrupt.
1981 watched Van Halen 3 nights in a row at Philadelphia Spectrum . .all 3 nights pressed against the security boards mid-floor . . .all 3 nights less than 25 $ . . . . $7.50 a ticket . . .
This is the price of a beverage now
I remember seeing my favorite bands for 20 bucks a pop at smaller venues about 25 years ago now these bands are playing the big venues and stuff another tickets go for insane prices I just can't afford to see these bands anymore I wish these bands would start playing small venues again it was a lot more fun to see them bands at a small venue than it was at a larger venue
Thanks MK! Have an awesome week everyone!
Monopolies ALWAYS end up VERY bad for the consumer (and every part of the chain beneath them). We used to understand that not so long ago! As companies, and shareholders, grew more and more risk averse, including the 'Government' Corporation we seemed to turn a blind eye more and more! It is a BIG problem for all Economies that WILL have horrific consequences if we don't find different Economic Models. We end up with a time when MOST people will ONLY be able to afford the necessities (Fuel, Housing, Water etc). NO 'Luxuries'. And its a case of when not if!!!
Here in Oz a lot of venues go past it by simply charging at the door with a fixed price for the band and crew. Many of our famous bands do this.
I saw Led Zeppelin in 1979, at the height of their popularity, for $10.50 including service charges. That’s $32 in 2024 dollars!
I saw Korn, the most popular rock band at the time, in 2000 for $35. Staind... Another popular band at the time, was an opening act.
Look at the population in 1979 vs now
@@RealHomeRecording korn was never the most popular band dude
Earlier this year I saw The Record Company and the venue used Axs for tickets. The show was a mid-week show so the price was on the lower side ( $25 I think.) and the flat fee of $3.50.
I always check the venue or band website to get the tickets. Sometimes they can be cheaper.
I went to a show at a venue that has a max capacity a little over 1000 people this past weekend. Headliner and two opening bands that were part of the tour. No local band. Standing room only. The tickets were sold through Ticketmaster and were $28 before fees. The fees nearly doubled the cost. Then add in parking that was another $20 for 4 hours. And don't get me started on drink prices.
It would be interesting to see information on pandora. I recently was added and I wanted to know what bands I sounded like and I see that they have my music but it won't set up a radio station with it. I suspect that it could take time or maybe they don't compare every artist that they have music for.
I love those small-to-midsized venues. Bourbon Theater in Lincoln, Slowdown in Omaha, Val Air Ballroom in Des Moines..... good times, great bands.
Me too. I only go to small and medium size venues. Even though some medium size venues are also owned by Ticketmaster/live nation.
Cains Ballroom in Tulsa
Not sure when I'll get to it, but I bookmarked the clip to sample.
Great info..thks!
Make it illegal to resell tickets for more than face value (including any fees). This will stop ticketmaster profiting off touts who take tickets away from actual fans and profiting off double dipping fees
NFTs could fix it fix this problem you could use different protocols in the NFT like distributing royalties to artist directly or self-destruct features after transferred without proper approval
Bottom line is that a ton of the average music fans' money is going to a huge corporation whose CEO gets 139 million in one year. One person! It sucks. I used to see many shows in the 80's 90's and 00's. Now it's like a big financial commitment that not all of this larger sum of the money is going to the artist. Probably less. It sucks. And it's happened to several other areas of out lives.
The last local show I wanted to go to had tickets for $20. I was stoked. Then I tried to buy one and the service fee was $34. Couldn't do it.
I saw Rob Zombie in Omaha for 15 bucks a ticket total was under 50 bucks. Not a small venue. Not close seats but floor.
I saw 5fdb last month (in Las Vegas) the 60 dallor tickets cost me 300 bucks balcony seats. So three times the price for worst seats.
Ten years between the shows.
I wonder are deals with labels ever public record? I assume not, but I often wonder how good of a deal some artists really got. In the case of The Warning they negotiated for 8 months and say they got what they wanted (I believeit), but is there a way to actually see it? If it is good, it would be great for other artists to see whats possible or not.
There are a lot of critics of government oversight and regulation, but as you can see with this topic if it wasn't for the oversight these big corporations would continue to take advantage of and manipulate the "free market" completely in their favor. Government moves slow. It takes a long time for them to catch up with these companies, but they eventually do.
Ticketmaster/Live Nation are doing the same in the UK
Not sure what tix company i used. But I paid a $7 service and handling fee and then another $10 one @ the closing of the ticket.
My 2 cents for your question, I think time, study, and patience are what’s necessary. Time: the music industry is collapsing in more ways than one and will eat itself alive ever since Napster days. Study: gaining understanding of the paradigm shift thru channels such as yours to advance successfully as an artist. Patience: although hard to come by, given with time a new structure can potentially develop that will benefit the artist and their fans more than the industry could. Plus with war on the horizon, I imagine from the ashes a new renaissance of music will come. Really enjoy your channel and topics, keep ‘em coming!
Well said! 💯🙌
I was on Napster the night 100 simultaneous users were on (before Napster went “viral”.) It’s been crazy how everything went. I supported the Artists I liked but had a don’t give a shit attitude about the Industry itself. After Napster, Bands made all their money touring, now you can’t make money either way. The 360 deals some artists have signed is ludicrous, that is why Prince did what he did.
I have noticed increased presence in google by having music through a distributer even though I know there are far fewer search words involved.
I spent 45.00 at Subway with a 10% tip...😮 for me and my wife..
So...breaking up Ticketmaster and LiveNation would be like the breakup of the Bell companies.
As long as the new companies don't conspire with each other regarding fees, it could be beneficial. It's been almost two years since I last attended a live concert, and then it was at a small town music festival that was sponsored by the town, in a venue controlled by the town, and they were able to keep the ticket prices down.
I can count the number of artists that I'm willing to pay more than $50 to see live on the fingers of one hand, with fingers to spare.
Yea, I've missed out on many a classic show because fuck that I don't have $400-$1000 to blow on a show every few weeks. I have to choose very carefully.
Really ❤ MPU vids. And, I watched this one, too.
It’s really insane to hear that a ticketing company, set the trend for corporate price gouging, that in turned destroyed the US economy. Baffling.
Ms. Krystal
You overlook one thing. It's the relationship that the artist management and booking agent have with corporate America which is steering the artist into that direction. It's like this they tell the artist 'you're not going to get this tour unless you agree to the stipulations so what is it we got 30 other B list artist that want to take your place right now.'
You do wanna be famous don't you?
There's a sucker born every day
I just checked my ticket stub for The Police at the Cow Palace in San Francisco - $10.50
My first five or six concerts in the last 5 years of the 1980's: $18 per, at most.
@@angie99656 Yea, back then it seems like you could afford to see every major concert that rolled thru, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, McCartney, Pink Floyd, and any other band you wanted to see. Nowadays, not so much. The price for the '94 Floyd tour (basically The Pulse concert - $32.50.)
@@jorhanson8583 yeah I remember concerts being between 30 and 60 in the 90s and still being like okay I can pay this but when they started showing up with $300 tickets I just could not respect whatever was going on anymore.
This was all supposed to be popular music for ordinary people but ordinary people could no longer go.
Solution? Don't buy a ticket for more than $100.
If you don't buy them for more, then the scalpers won't be able to sell them, and there will be more available for the basic price. eliminates the scalpers and reduces the revenues for the promoters.
Recently went o the Sammy Hagar 2024 tour, paid $65 for lawn seats. That's about the most I'm willing to spend. May go to a smaller show this weekend for Dirty Honey, tickets are $35.
I'm so lucky to have seen The Cure in Frankfurt Festhalle, with reserved seats halfway on the balcony, for only 68€ in 2022. Prices like this should be the norm.
In economics there's a difference between earning money by creating value and what is called "rent seeking". Rent seeking is about extracting value by controlling access at a choke point. The entire point of monopolies is that they allow unfettered rent seeking. So we need to either break up the monopolies or regulate their prices, like we've frequently done for utilities.
If a band would record a video where they take a portable PA system to Ticketmaster headquarters and cause a ruckus, I would be a fan of theirs for life!
A while ago you were making updates about one of your clients that was trying to get his money back that the distributor tried to say he use fake streams did he ever get his music and money back
It's too bad it's taken so long for the justice dept to take this on. It's probably gonna be in the courts for a few years. Meanwhile the damage to the industry has been catastrophic and continues unchecked.
Time is of the essence to correct this meaningfully.
No the bottom of food chain is the ticket buyer. The Fans!!
Quick frame of reference the Pabst Theater is owned by a small group of people that owns several local venues in Milwaukee. They made it sound like he was a sole owner of a small singular venue. Pretty sure they also have a hand/interest in one of the bigger business/lobbying groups for independent venues nationwide. We do like getting tickets at their box offices (we go to several of their venues regularly) to save the fees. We also don't go to big shows at large venues more than once every few years because popular music is largely garbage.
I subscribe to my perfect union. Theyre videos are great.
Once everyone gets on the block chai'm sure someone will have a monopoly or virtual shows. I can help you with that
Solution is to stop buying tickets at high prices.
You have a choice… DO NOT GO. That’s why the industry is crumbling. Greed eventually loses.
Uber does the same service fee BS.
TECHNICALLY, WE COULD NOT and JUST SAY FK IT
If only we had some kind of body who’s job it was to protect the individual artists, fans and make laws to stop corporate greed running off the scale!
The solution is.
Just take the programming they give us. 🎉your 🔥 hot😅
Please check out Loreena McKennitt she is inspiring and is a great example of having your own label. Please see if you could have her on your show.
These large companies have been forcing out the little guys since the late 1800's. The Music Industry is just a small fraction of their pie. But have no doubt, they own the whole pie!
Got the email this morning and know im here
I swear, all i ever wanted to do is play music and have spent 26 yrs learning how to play and studying music theory to learn that its all been a big scam. I sure have wasted my life...
I found a solution. I sell tickets directly on my website, and because i am not a ticketing company the venue is not in breach of its contract. As an added perk selling tickets direct, while fans are on my site getting tickets they see online merch for sale also, potentially a new fit for the gig 😁🧙🏻♂️
Why is it that European venues won't even allow ticketmaster or livenation to do business in their countries, but here in the US those two entities run everything! Disgusting
who would have thought >> stealing is profitable ... :p :(((((
Re: 6:30
Tom MacDonald is a perfect example of an independent musician who was able to connect with fans regardless of record label.
Well a lot of people out there make songs about love he is making songs about the economy and other topics that are on people's minds.
There's nothing wrong with making songs about love but the Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande and Beyonce's of the world pretty much have a monopoly on those. Rapping about issues that are kitchen table discussions is how Mr MacDonald (along with his low budget but still high quality music videos) got people's attention.
Yeah, but with Tom Macdonald there’s starting to be a problem with him now, for me, he seems to be just an internet artist……, what about doing a tour…..
It’s not 2 times for the fees of resell. It’s 3. I had to resell a ticket because my friend couldn’t come to the show. So I put it on TM. When I choose the price, let say 70$, TM tells me that I will receive 59$. And when the ticket is sold, they charge the other person that buys the ticket. A cut on me twice and a cut on the new buyer. It’s legal theft.
Yeah, I don't go to big concerts. Ticketmaster hasn't gotten any of my money. Maybe that's not a great solution, but it's the solution that I have the power to put into practice.
I saw Metallica Damaged Justice tour 1989? ticket price 20$.
THE NAME tells you everything you need to know.......TICKET ' MASTER '.....
Can you do landr video?
There is one up already. Thanks for being here!
Ex music venue owner here - I presume Tom was talking gross margin percentages at 25-30%, because I never got anywhere near that net!...lol
I’m not usually into having government step in on private business practices, however, I do think what these corporations are doing is potentially criminal.
Fugazi just cancelled their reunion tour because of ticket prices
Watched the vid, interesting to say.the least
Live Nation is truly a vertical monopoly.
AI will soon make it cheap enough for musicians and venues to create their own apps and websites to collect all the money.
Theres a reason why monopolys are illegal
Stop feeding that which starves us. Do not go to any LiveNation or Ticketmaster shows. Do not support venues who work with them. Do not support artists who work with them. Complacency is complicity and complicity is guilt.
How can you say artists can change how they work when your own video clearly stated that even the largest acts are powerless? Most of the acts who need tickmaster/LN are playing to sub 1000 seat venues and make less money than an attorney. Probably closer to an electrician or school teacher
Oh please... that looks like any little dive bar in the country, and how long have they (not necessarily this place but the gazzillions like it all across the country, especially SoCal) ripped off local up and coming musicians and bands with their pay to play. Ticketmaster is not stealing their business.
Well maybe if fans all stood up for what's right and stopped paying these stupid prices it might stop.
But no, it's way too much to ask. People would rather pay stupid prices than sacrifice for justice.
This is what we get from capitalism. Is it really a good system...really?
🗣 Aye somebody tell da lawyer lady livenation charging $30k fah 200 cap venues da fgn math ain’t mathing how many mfz yall got working ahh 200 cap venue where you need some peoples entire years salary fah ahhh few hours work my bah Tom managing ahh 400 cap by him damn self what’s your sorry ahhh excuse yall charging hiphop acts extra on top of that too fah “security” just say yo ahhh don’t got insurance mf we let yall mfz have streaming and da facade of being “lit” your poor business choices is making youz mfz greedy and desperate 🧾🧐
🗣 Mfz finna pay staff $600 ahh piece after taxes and pocket da rest
🗣 He just said it right there they charge 30k house fee I told yall these mfz ahhh bunch ahhh serpents
Don't buy tickets. Send the artists money through zelle and such things.
I think with real music By real musicians~! That They will need to have the producers to be part of the band that shares equity! Because if the the Musicians need a producer'$.
The Producer can't become the Parasite'$ attaching themselves to the Musicians & Bands! They have to become all as one! The musicians need to own their own equipment!
The places they play at need to charge the old ways! Musicians Should be able to sell their music by their Email~ Having the ''old ways'' as the best! When the wealth was spread around!
We live in THE technical renaissance. We need an APP to break this up.
you are only catching on to the tickmaster corruption now?!
You have to BUY OR OWN tickets to your show now?!...why do bands do this?...stop doing this..why..just to be seen?
25% - 30% Profit Margin...nice business. Sorry it has dropped significantly.
You do the work, and they take pay. They make it easy to get work, but they make it hard to pay the bills. You have been downgraded from the big dog in a small forest to a tiny fish in an ocean.