Although I would like to also state, that the serviceability issue has now been improved to upto 70% , which is a decent number but for those small numbers of jets, It is expected to be more. www.google.com/amp/s/www.mynation.com/amp/news/mig-29k-issues-india-discusses-problems-with-russia-defence-minister-pjnw7h
You share sharsd the correct link? I cannot find 70% figure there, only thing i can see is "The serviceability of the warplanes was low, ranging from 15.93 % to 37.63 % and that of MiG-29KUB ranging from 21.30 % to 47.14 %. Serviceability refers to the total number of aircraft available for operation at a time from the overall capacity. "
@@JithinJose2 this link is not for the 70% serviceability issue, that was stated by the former Navy Chief Admiral Sunil Lamba in a press conference which held in 2018. This link was shared to show the remaining issues which are with the aircraft till now.
I heard somewhere before that Russia would also allow us to manufacture spares of all the Russian jets and when HAL opens somewhere in abroad (I can't remember exactly where since it was a long time back). HAL would manufacture spares and target those countries who are illegally obtaining spares. Any update about when we will get the permission to manufacture spares?
Also India has asked Mikoyan Gurevich to make few changes in the aircraft and for MMRCA 2, Mikoyan Gurevich has offered a different variant which they claim to be of 4.5++ generation. Any information about what has been modified would be really wonderful.
Lol bhai tum kiya paida hote he tum chalna start kiya ho. time Lagta hai bhai dhere dhere sab Thik hojayega Abhi modi ji Kay aane se ab sab start huwa hai thoda time do Indian scientist ko
Let it enter service. Tejas is not for the Navy. It has been designed for the Airforce. It will replace MiG 21 as interceptor. It cannot be multirole as it has severe limitations namely range and payload.
@@sarkarnorupam6249 Bhaiya apne yahan 5 saal ke kaam ko 10 saal mein karte hai kaha TEDBF ke khyaal apna rahe ho abhi nahi aane wala TEDBF 2030 ke baad hi ayega
Excellent video.I am impressed by your in depth research.Though mig 29 is a great dogfighter it has several other issues altogether that unfortunately can't be ignored so ordering such an aircraft in bulk will be a grave mistake and threat to national security
@@rupakkumardebbarma this is not commuting, but a race which will decide life and death. You can't race with Maruti 800 when your enemies have mercedes and BMWs.
@@DefenceMatrix yes it is when you have a billions to feed! understood. This point at which we r right now is due to our policies n negligence and that 2 of decades. Costly things come with costly maintainance and we also look for cost effective items around the world due to budgetary restrictions because we don't whopping 500+ billion $ defence budget where we can buy and maintain LAMBORGHINIS
Mig 35 hi Lena chahiye 😐, Budget hai nai,par ek modern fighter jets chahiye, Aur urgent mai IAF ki requirement isse hi Puri hogi ..114 na sahi 72 hi le le ..
Sir can you please do a similar analysis of India buying F-21 under MMRCA. Recently Abhijit Iyer Mitra while speaking with "Defensive Offence" mentioned that India should consider buying them due to the economy of scales. It makes perfect sense to me since the maintenance of such single-engine fighter planes will be much cheaper compared to twin-engine.
As we have fixed serviceability issue with mig29k and as we are going for 21 more mig29s shall we go for mig35? It can fulfill requirements of airforce and army both and offered at quite low price compare to rafale.
This is a clearly biased article for following reasons: 1. The analysis is based on 6 year old CAG report and lot of things happened since. 2. As you yourself admitted, servicibility improved to over 70% and Navy has currently no issues on that. 3. Most if not all issues related to engine and fly by wire system has been resolved already. 4. Its absurd to compare MIG 29K with MIG 35. Former is for naval operation while the later is a ground based one. Comparing with MIG 29 UPG would have made sense. MIG 35 is far advanced compared to MIG 29 UPG and it would make a lot of sense for IAF to go for it in view of pilot familiarity and cost effectiveness 5. MIG 29K problem is its lack of ruggedness for carrier operation. This has resulted from russian or specifically MIG corporation inexperience in carrier based fighter design.
In my view, Your defense of Russian planes whether Mig 29/35 emanates from either ignorance of the current western planes and their technological advancements, or some vested interest in promoting a 3rd class Russian planes (which have been proven to be 'NO MATCH" to the Western planes)? or BOTH? Read the internal debriefing by aviation experts from NATO. You may read the war accounts from ISRAEL-Arab, IRAN-IRAQ, USA-VIETNAM, INDIA-PAK (70:20 planes lost by India:Pak in 1965 war), Kargil, Balakot, and numerous air exercises involving western and Russian planes?? India must not buy Russian weapons anymore because today India has the choice of western weapon systems. They may be more expensive but they bring better quality, lower maintenance, fewer breakdowns, better firepower, longer life, fewer accidents and loss of life and ASSURED VICTORY!!
Material failure premature and the poor fatigue index of the airframe is an major concern in Navy jets also the fly by wire is an cherry on the cake for the OEM's after sales warranty.
@@DefenceMatrix You should do it. I'm American, and I came to express my support for India against the Chinese. I understood the title, but I would click a lot more of the videos if they were in English.
Crash होने को तो F22 raptor और F35 मिला कर 8 क्रैश हो चुके हैं , Mig 29 काफी agile फुर्ती वाला जेट है और young indian पायलट deadly maneuver इसके साथ बड़े अच्छे सर करते है !
@@buzzlightyear7752 It Will Be Ready In Few Years . 114 Aircrafts Will Take Time To Produce If They Make 20 Aircraft Per Year. So If F4 Is complete While Procuring Then We Can Place An Order for Upgrading The Existing Fleet Which Hasn't Been Delivered Yet.
The issue with Russian engines is because they are not tropicalized, cannot handle the hot and humid conditions of India... They are optimized for Russia conditions which is dry and cold..... Mig29k another issue is that every time it lands on the carrier the whole system settings changes and hence requires a reset/reboot..... Because we add all these different modifications from NATO counties into them we have also created issues...
I agree with you completely!! I hope the war never happens! but should it happen India must win! For that to happen now is the time to remove our weaknesses and shortcomings!! This purchase decision of MIGs/SU 30s is patently wrong!! According to aviation expert Tom Cooper writing for the Forbes, the Su-30, while seemingly impressive on paper, lacks performance and combat capability compared to Western models and is a poor fit for mountain patrol. He also points out that the Russian made Su-30s had failed to perform during the war in Kargil 1999 and Balakot Airstrikes in 2019 and instead the Mirage-2000s had proven to be more effective. Why India is purchasing this obsolete junk points at two possibilities? 1. Some Corrupt and lazy Indian airforce officials , bureaucrats, and politicians seem to be thinking of greasing their palms even in these critical times....there is a pilots lobby or corrupt a lobby of airforce officers who are hand in glove with the defense procurement lobby (for example Air Marshal Tyagi was found to be involved with the 'purchase lobby' with deep russian links) behind this constant tilt towards 3rd class Russian weapons!! 2. Its equally likely that Indian airforce is unwilling and unable to upgrade its tactics, capabilities to more advanced avionics, networked environment requirements of western aircrafts systems. Its common knowledge that Russian planes do not possess the sophistication in avionics and technology of the western planes. Several Indian experts have identified this gap in knowledge. technology (on an average in the Indian Airforce, Navy and military). Modernization requires leapfrogging this gap to make Indian army a world class modern fighting force.The aging pilots of airforce who have been flying MIGs/SUkhois for decades may be apprehensive of their inability to upgrade their knowledge and skills base to match requirements of modern western planes...... jock monsta
Sir why don't India start an engine program with Russia and make low maintenance engines as Russian jets are OP in performance only engines are where they lack
Instead of buying these flying coffins we should focus on building our own craft so that we can carry out necessary modifications according to our experience and requirements
I don't understand where it goes wrong, we already purchased Rafael from France and also developed infrastructure and logistics support for them. If we move on another platform then it again cost more money and also time consuming.
1 squadron for now for mig 35 for getting edge on chinese su 27.. but not for marca. When mig 41 comes you can modify n put some features of mig 41 into mig 35. With upgrading mig 29 to level of mig 41 will be kind of impossible.
Still I think, we can go for a squadron of Mig35 with long range R37M missile. Rafale is great and I don't doubt that. But, India is low on aircraft and even if we ordered Rafale and Tejas is being manufactured, still they will take time . Further, I think India should try to modify some of the Mig29 jets for Electronic warfare role like E18 Growler as it will help in SEAD missions.
Good analysis. Such issues with the Russian aircrafts are not hidden. However, maybe there is a way that Russians can resolve these issues. We need to understand that price is a big factor and secondly, the prime aim of MMRCA 2.0 is technology transfer. Russia has the technology. India can work on clearing the wrinkles. If price is not an issue, Rafale is choice number 1. But will Dassault agree for technology transfer to our satisfaction???
Kaveri develop karne ki offer di thi Eurofighter ne. Agar hum Eurofighter jet le lete to wo hume kaveri engine develop karne main maddad karte. Matlab 2 fighter plane tayyar hote. Magar humne Rafale liya.
Sarkar Norupam sahi bol rahe ho bhai. But unse bhi nhi ho paya kaveri develop. Now they are saying ki agar mmrca 2 milta hai rafale ko to hi fully develop karenge.
With Mig 29 UPG, Mig 35 won't make sense for India. Mig 29 UPG has the same capabilities of as Mig 35 except for payload capacity (4000kg with 6 hard points vs 8000 kg with 8 hard points.)
We have two options, either wait for Tejas and amca, or simply buy more Russian aircrafts. We can't buy western aircrafts, they're insanely costly. Rafale and F18 are more than triple the price of Mig 29k. We gotta see the costas we don't need to spend 3 times more for the same generation aircraft. The 36 rafale we bought costs 222 millions each while Su 30 and Mig 29k doesn't costs more than 50-60 million each. It's clear what's better of after sales support is similar.
Your right sir hame ab kese bhi condition me mig series k fighter plenty nhi kharidne chahiye .... Kyon ki in k quality poor h .Or hum dushmano se ghire bathe h .. sasta roye bar bar mahnga roye 1 bar .Dusre bat hamara focus make in india par badana chahiye hamare apne scientist ko badiya jyada badawa dena chahiye ...Pasa koi matar nhi hona chahiye ...Jai hind
French fighter plane Rafale is reliable... IAF and govt must choose Rafale in batch wise. I.e, 18 rafale now 18 after a certain period.... so that 118 nos. Can be reached.
IAF should consider the best fighter jet even if it costs a bit more as the life of our pilots matters the most as it takes a long time and effort to train a pilot to operate such a complex piece of machinery
We have less funds, we can't replace all our old fleet with twin engine aircraft. That's why if we can select f 21 for genuine price of 55-65 million dollar., It will be a good deal. F 21 has the best radar and avionics.
Then why IAF is purchasing additional MIG-29's having found so many faults and lacunas during sorties and audits?. There are serious failures of engines and aircraft crashes during our routine training sorties. Still why does India purchase these flying coffins?. We loose vauable life and money...
I love your nay-saying and your armchair air marshall attitude. The Indian navy and the Indian airforce are really amateurs and know nothing about their job, that is why they have bought more mothballed Mig-29s from Russia. I highly recommend your inclusion in the next committee on aircraft selection for India. I also truly believe that you should be part of the TEDBF and AMCA monitoring team. That is the only way your deep knowledge of aircraft, airframes, avionics, engines, and weaponry can be utilized.
And agar hum Rafeal ya koi aur fighter jet select karte hai to uska manufacturing plant India me setup karne me kam se kam 5 saal lagege aur mmrca deal ko final karne ki process me bhi 2 saal lagege to 7 saal baad mmrca tender wale aircraft ka production start hoga aur Manlo 18+ aircraft per year Hume delivery mile to bhi 5 saal delivery complete hone me lagege aur uske baad trials me 1-2 saal lagega to 14 saal baad hamare pas mmrca wale aircraft ayege usse pehle hun MWF ORCA TEDBF aur AMCA sare project ko nipata dege matlab development complete ho jayega sare aircraft ka aur 2025 Tejas mk1A, MK2 ka production start ho jayega AMCA ka development complete hote hote ORCA ya TEDBF ka production start ho jayega aur tab tak AMCA K trials chal rahe hoge 2030 tak hum AMCA ka production start karne ki position me hoge
India needs Mig35 but we can induct after its naval version is inducted in Russia. Engine needs to be improved & 400 km radar to be introduced in Mig35. Engine & aircraft has to be made in India with technological transfer. With this it should be best option as MMRCA will only be done in 2021. We have time & can back with 45 Rafael 4 till Mig35 is made in India
We need to finish the MMRCA in next few months Get a government deal between top 2 fighters USA : f15x for airforce 114 and F18 for Navy - Trump uncle if u want an alliance give us a good deal France : Rafael for both Airforce and Navy Get them to compete and who ever gives less price + transfer of tech + engine tech + help with AMCA and ORCA
@@gameplayvideos3113 nobody will give engine tech. France gave the best offer to us but also decided to charge Royalty and modify the engine's core of Kaveri.
MMRCA 2 scrap kar k 114 Rafale F3r le leni chahiye. F4 aur F3r main zyada difference nahi hain. Bas thira bargaining kar k price drop kar k TOT k saath le le to IAF ka aram se kaam chal jayega
Rd 33 toh Pakistan bhe use karta hi jf-17 me aur Jo new block-3 hi me upgraded version hi, mujhe yeh nahi samaj aa raha ke Pakistan kaise isse effective tarike se use kar pa raha hi????
Please India don't go for Junk outdated aircrafts just coz they are cheap which in fact later on will be difficult to maintain and the maintenance cost will skyrocket.For MMRCA go for Rafale or the cost effective maintaining wise Gripen..for Naval India should either go for F 18 ( to please our current world supporter) or the Naval variant of Rafale..look at the weapons coming along Rafale(BVR,ALCM) and other western planes.
Lockheed Martin ki production capacity 290+ aircraft per year ki hai to agar mmrca me IAF F-35 ko select karta hai to 1 saal me hamare pas 100+ 5th gen aircraft aa jayega aur F-35 Rafeal se sasta hai 100+ K order per F35 ka price bhi kam ho sakta hai per TOT Nahi milega Iske badle America Hume 5th gen aircraft develope karne me ya phir jet engine develop karne me help kar sakta hai
Jab america ki taraf se f35 offer kiya gaya hai to india ko f35 jaroor kharidna chaiye.ye 5th generation aircraft hai. Aur indian amca ko kam se kam 10 saal lagenge service mein ane ki liye. Joki aaj ki halat dekhte huye sahi nai hai . At least 36 f35 to jaroor kharidna chahiye.
Bhai that is not relevant right now, I have paused the work on it, because China will never use that against us.. so I am covering the relevant information right now, will upload that too but not now.
Although I would like to also state, that the serviceability issue has now been improved to upto 70% , which is a decent number but for those small numbers of jets, It is expected to be more.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.mynation.com/amp/news/mig-29k-issues-india-discusses-problems-with-russia-defence-minister-pjnw7h
You share sharsd the correct link? I cannot find 70% figure there, only thing i can see is "The serviceability of the warplanes was low, ranging from 15.93 % to 37.63 % and that of MiG-29KUB ranging from 21.30 % to 47.14 %. Serviceability refers to the total number of aircraft available for operation at a time from the overall capacity. "
@@JithinJose2 this link is not for the 70% serviceability issue, that was stated by the former Navy Chief Admiral Sunil Lamba in a press conference which held in 2018.
This link was shared to show the remaining issues which are with the aircraft till now.
@@DefenceMatrix K. Thanks
I heard somewhere before that Russia would also allow us to manufacture spares of all the Russian jets and when HAL opens somewhere in abroad (I can't remember exactly where since it was a long time back). HAL would manufacture spares and target those countries who are illegally obtaining spares. Any update about when we will get the permission to manufacture spares?
Also India has asked Mikoyan Gurevich to make few changes in the aircraft and for MMRCA 2, Mikoyan Gurevich has offered a different variant which they claim to be of 4.5++ generation. Any information about what has been modified would be really wonderful.
Legend says that Tejas has not crashed till date.
Lol bhai tum kiya paida hote he tum chalna start kiya ho. time Lagta hai bhai dhere dhere sab Thik hojayega Abhi modi ji Kay aane se ab sab start huwa hai thoda time do Indian scientist ko
So true, its mainly because western engines and indian technology's
yes.
And even that with single engines
Let it enter service. Tejas is not for the Navy. It has been designed for the Airforce. It will replace MiG 21 as interceptor. It cannot be multirole as it has severe limitations namely range and payload.
Thanks for informed suggestion! Tejas naval version should be focused upon!
TEDBF💪💪💪
@@sarkarnorupam6249 Bhaiya apne yahan 5 saal ke kaam ko 10 saal mein karte hai kaha TEDBF ke khyaal apna rahe ho abhi nahi aane wala TEDBF 2030 ke baad hi ayega
Excellent video.I am impressed by your in depth research.Though mig 29 is a great dogfighter it has several other issues altogether that unfortunately can't be ignored so ordering such an aircraft in bulk will be a grave mistake and threat to national security
What technology transferred, only "screwdriver, " technology
"Sasta roye baar baar Mehanga roye ek baar"...Jai Hind..(🇮🇳)..🙏.
Is baar maruti maat kharido ek Lamborghini le lo fir aao comment krne...bhuk lgne ke baad ek ek krke parts kha lena
bilkul sahi baat
@@rupakkumardebbarma this is not commuting, but a race which will decide life and death.
You can't race with Maruti 800 when your enemies have mercedes and BMWs.
@@DefenceMatrix yes it is when you have a billions to feed! understood. This point at which we r right now is due to our policies n negligence and that 2 of decades. Costly things come with costly maintainance and we also look for cost effective items around the world due to budgetary restrictions because we don't whopping 500+ billion $ defence budget where we can buy and maintain LAMBORGHINIS
@@DefenceMatrix our Defense experts are better than you, if Russian planes are bad, then how did Abhinandan managed to shoot down a F16
India need to focus on own engine's development
Samaj gaya sir aap kya kahna chate ho--"Sasta maal kharidogey
To barey pachtaogey"
Mig 35 hi Lena chahiye 😐,
Budget hai nai,par ek modern fighter jets chahiye,
Aur urgent mai IAF ki requirement isse hi Puri hogi ..114 na sahi 72 hi le le ..
Hey all, is there an english version of this video/channel?
Im from USA, i dont understand Hindi. Thanks
I doubt there is English version of this channel. Maybe you can ask him to add English subtitles from next video
Yes there is.. Try to search defense matrix English
Defence Ops is the name of english channel
Thanks Bro..i haved shared this video..to Navy, Air force, Army, PMO & Defence ministry twitter handles..
Migs are Old & Not Efficient..We Should Buy Sukhoi's & Few F 35's For Serious Performance & Strength for our Army💯🙏🇮🇳❤️
Sir can you please do a similar analysis of India buying F-21 under MMRCA. Recently Abhijit Iyer Mitra while speaking with "Defensive Offence" mentioned that India should consider buying them due to the economy of scales. It makes perfect sense to me since the maintenance of such single-engine fighter planes will be much cheaper compared to twin-engine.
As we have fixed serviceability issue with mig29k and as we are going for 21 more mig29s shall we go for mig35? It can fulfill requirements of airforce and army both and offered at quite low price compare to rafale.
This is a clearly biased article for following reasons:
1. The analysis is based on 6 year old CAG report and lot of things happened since.
2. As you yourself admitted, servicibility improved to over 70% and Navy has currently no issues on that.
3. Most if not all issues related to engine and fly by wire system has been resolved already.
4. Its absurd to compare MIG 29K with MIG 35. Former is for naval operation while the later is a ground based one. Comparing with MIG 29 UPG would have made sense. MIG 35 is far advanced compared to MIG 29 UPG and it would make a lot of sense for IAF to go for it in view of pilot familiarity and cost effectiveness
5. MIG 29K problem is its lack of ruggedness for carrier operation. This has resulted from russian or specifically MIG corporation inexperience in carrier based fighter design.
In my view, Your defense of Russian planes whether Mig 29/35 emanates from either ignorance of the current western planes and their technological advancements, or some vested interest in promoting a 3rd class Russian planes (which have been proven to be 'NO MATCH" to the Western planes)? or BOTH? Read the internal debriefing by aviation experts from NATO. You may read the war accounts from ISRAEL-Arab, IRAN-IRAQ, USA-VIETNAM, INDIA-PAK (70:20 planes lost by India:Pak in 1965 war), Kargil, Balakot, and numerous air exercises involving western and Russian planes??
India must not buy Russian weapons anymore because today India has the choice of western weapon systems. They may be more expensive but they bring better quality, lower maintenance, fewer breakdowns, better firepower, longer life, fewer accidents and loss of life and ASSURED VICTORY!!
Material failure premature and the poor fatigue index of the airframe is an major concern in Navy jets also the fly by wire is an cherry on the cake for the OEM's after sales warranty.
For a more global reach give English subtitles. Jai Hind.
I am thinking of an English channel too, let's see
@@DefenceMatrix You should do it. I'm American, and I came to express my support for India against the Chinese. I understood the title, but I would click a lot more of the videos if they were in English.
@@DefenceMatrix just add English subs. Far easier than maintaining two channels.
Crash होने को तो F22 raptor और F35 मिला कर 8 क्रैश हो चुके हैं , Mig 29 काफी agile फुर्ती वाला जेट है और young indian पायलट deadly maneuver इसके साथ बड़े अच्छे सर करते है !
500+ f35 and 180+ raptors are in active service whereas only 50+mig29ks are active
Mig 29 UPG doesn’t have FBW. Isn’t it still controlled mechanically? Request further clarification.
Thanks for the eye opening video
Will Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman fly Mig 21 till 2038 when HAL give vintage AMCA at exorbitant price to airforce ?
Vintage AMCA?
@@avkk2314 HAL Plan to give AMCA after 2038 .......when most airforce will be going with 7th gen aircraft
Ak Mig 21 ko Pakistani Jf 17 nay shoot Kiya tha 27 fb ko
@@phantompakistan592 everyone knows that
@@avkk2314 Pakistan Kay Jo b weapon Hain wo un Kay front line unit Kay pass hain
F 16 jf 17 thundar
So sad to hear this mannnnnn I loved this aircraft dude this is such a legendary aircraft
Excellent detailing and way of explanation is brilliant keep it up brother moreover ur voice is very clam 👍👍👍👍
Supeb video sir ji
2 mig 29k crashed within a month at INS HANSA base.
Very good reasoning on Mig 29.
Is 114 Rafale F4/ F3 Possible?
With Assembly Lines In India And Technology Transfer?
Will It Help Us With Kaveri Engines Development?
F4 way out of our reach
Rafale f4 is desirable. But is it ready now? If ready, France will get the first preference to get them.
@@buzzlightyear7752 It Will Be Ready In Few Years .
114 Aircrafts Will Take Time To Produce If They Make 20 Aircraft Per Year. So If F4 Is complete While Procuring Then We Can Place An Order for Upgrading The Existing Fleet Which Hasn't Been Delivered Yet.
Present F3R Rafale is way too expensive to be procured in large numbers.F4 standard is expensive than F3R.
Simple fact is India doesn't have money to buy Mig35s and Su35s, so only option left was to beg for left garbage Su30s and Mig29s lol
The issue with Russian engines is because they are not tropicalized, cannot handle the hot and humid conditions of India... They are optimized for Russia conditions which is dry and cold.....
Mig29k another issue is that every time it lands on the carrier the whole system settings changes and hence requires a reset/reboot.....
Because we add all these different modifications from NATO counties into them we have also created issues...
I agree with you completely!! I hope the war never happens! but should it happen India must win! For that to happen now is the time to remove our weaknesses and shortcomings!! This purchase decision of MIGs/SU 30s is patently wrong!! According to aviation expert Tom Cooper writing for the Forbes, the Su-30, while seemingly impressive on paper, lacks performance and combat capability compared to Western models and is a poor fit for mountain patrol. He also points out that the Russian made Su-30s had failed to perform during the war in Kargil 1999 and Balakot Airstrikes in 2019 and instead the Mirage-2000s had proven to be more effective.
Why India is purchasing this obsolete junk points at two possibilities? 1. Some Corrupt and lazy Indian airforce officials , bureaucrats, and politicians seem to be thinking of greasing their palms even in these critical times....there is a pilots lobby or corrupt a lobby of airforce officers who are hand in glove with the defense procurement lobby (for example Air Marshal Tyagi was found to be involved with the 'purchase lobby' with deep russian links) behind this constant tilt towards 3rd class Russian weapons!! 2. Its equally likely that Indian airforce is unwilling and unable to upgrade its tactics, capabilities to more advanced avionics, networked environment requirements of western aircrafts systems. Its common knowledge that Russian planes do not possess the sophistication in avionics and technology of the western planes. Several Indian experts have identified this gap in knowledge. technology (on an average in the Indian Airforce, Navy and military). Modernization requires leapfrogging this gap to make Indian army a world class modern fighting force.The aging pilots of airforce who have been flying MIGs/SUkhois for decades may be apprehensive of their inability to upgrade their knowledge and skills base to match requirements of modern western planes......
jock monsta
It's not the machine that matters,
*it's the man behind the machine that matters*....
Due respect to Russia , we should not buy Russian fighters. We should buy USA ( codes are shared )or French. Or codevelop with Japan / Korea!
Sir why don't India start an engine program with Russia and make low maintenance engines as Russian jets are OP in performance only engines are where they lack
We are the biggest purchaser of Mig family series. But unfortunately we should break the relationship with Mig family.
Yes you are right every affordable things are not good it will be costly in future.
They have already solved engine problem as told by you
Sahi bola bhai, cheaper now will be costlier later.... If at all IAF wants another Russian aircraft, it can be Su-35 but not another Mig.
Instead of buying these flying coffins we should focus on building our own craft so that we can carry out necessary modifications according to our experience and requirements
I don't understand where it goes wrong, we already purchased Rafael from France and also developed infrastructure and logistics support for them. If we move on another platform then it again cost more money and also time consuming.
Russia is good for Tanks, firearms and other equipments. But no jets anymore.
114 Rafale is the best option in MMRCA 2.0
Price pata hai ek rafale ka more than 100 million
@@manishtaker8622 bro zada numbers Mai procure krege to kam mai pdega
@@manishtaker8622 bhai jara apni knowledge thik karle, price hai uska 74 million dollars and agar India leta hai to price kamega with ToT
@@manishtaker8622 aur French planes ko maintain karna sabse easy hai, take the example of Mirage 2000
1 squadron for now for mig 35 for getting edge on chinese su 27.. but not for marca.
When mig 41 comes you can modify n put some features of mig 41 into mig 35.
With upgrading mig 29 to level of mig 41 will be kind of impossible.
Still I think, we can go for a squadron of Mig35 with long range R37M missile. Rafale is great and I don't doubt that. But, India is low on aircraft and even if we ordered Rafale and Tejas is being manufactured, still they will take time . Further, I think India should try to modify some of the Mig29 jets for Electronic warfare role like E18 Growler as it will help in SEAD missions.
MiG29UPG is Best 4Gen Values for money Fighter 💪♥️⚒️
Na
Russian weapons and technologies are good but when it comes to reliability then it is not up to the mark...
Rafael best hai par paise k abhao me fa18 Lena Chahiye agar Boeing yf23 Ka tech share Karne ko ready ho to, kya kehte ko matrix??
Best fighter hi , upgrade kiya dena ka bola hi customisation ke sath 😋😋👍👍👍💪💪
True 100 %.
Good analysis. Such issues with the Russian aircrafts are not hidden. However, maybe there is a way that Russians can resolve these issues. We need to understand that price is a big factor and secondly, the prime aim of MMRCA 2.0 is technology transfer. Russia has the technology. India can work on clearing the wrinkles.
If price is not an issue, Rafale is choice number 1. But will Dassault agree for technology transfer to our satisfaction???
MiG 35 is not MIG 29 .
It's that simple . That's why IAF is interested.
Sir, any other option which is better for us?
If we want to buy a cheap aircraft due to bad economy, it is better to buy gripen e rather than mig 35.
Ni go for Rafael F4 and Rafael M
जो एक लड़की सप्लाई करें वह दल्ला, जो 72 हूर सप्लाई करें वह अल्लाह।😂😝🤩
Lol 😂😂
2030 k time pe Indian airforce vs Chinese and Pakistan airforce k comparison pe based ek video bnao na bhai
Kaveri develop hota to engine replace kr dete....pr Russian engines me kafi issues raheta Hain
Kaveri develop karne ki offer di thi Eurofighter ne. Agar hum Eurofighter jet le lete to wo hume kaveri engine develop karne main maddad karte. Matlab 2 fighter plane tayyar hote. Magar humne Rafale liya.
@@AdvaitThakur rafale ne bhi offer diya tha
Sarkar Norupam sahi bol rahe ho bhai. But unse bhi nhi ho paya kaveri develop. Now they are saying ki agar mmrca 2 milta hai rafale ko to hi fully develop karenge.
Russia has only 5 mig-35 jets in their inventory..... there is definitely a huge deficit in the aircraft.
Simple fact is India doesn't have money to buy Mig35s and Su35s, so only option left was to take left garbage Su30s and Mig29s lol.
Great video.
which is the alternative aircraft according to you?
Rafale M
Brother please update these kind of crash related videos more often , these are really an eye opener for common people .
No more Russian jets. India should go with Rafale and focus on KAVERI engine with Safran and our own Jets.
If Russia gives full TOT then we can consider the MIG 35
So does this mean that the IAF should not rely on Russian aircraft
But the after sale service of mikoyan are very poor in our mig 29 we see that
With Mig 29 UPG, Mig 35 won't make sense for India. Mig 29 UPG has the same capabilities of as Mig 35 except for payload capacity (4000kg with 6 hard points vs 8000 kg with 8 hard points.)
We have two options, either wait for Tejas and amca, or simply buy more Russian aircrafts. We can't buy western aircrafts, they're insanely costly. Rafale and F18 are more than triple the price of
Mig 29k. We gotta see the costas we don't need to spend 3 times more for the same generation aircraft. The 36 rafale we bought costs 222 millions each while Su 30 and Mig 29k doesn't costs more than 50-60 million each. It's clear what's better of after sales support is similar.
The fault in our stars...
Toh mmrca 2.0 me konsa aircraft lena chayiye ?
Please make video on Su-30 incident in tejpur
How better is Mig35 from mig29 interns of performance & life
Your right sir hame ab kese bhi condition me mig series k fighter plenty nhi kharidne chahiye .... Kyon ki in k quality poor h .Or hum dushmano se ghire bathe h .. sasta roye bar bar mahnga roye 1 bar .Dusre bat hamara focus make in india par badana chahiye hamare apne scientist ko badiya jyada badawa dena chahiye ...Pasa koi matar nhi hona chahiye ...Jai hind
Toh dus saalo mein kitne crashes acceptable hai, aur aapki raay mein India ko kaunsa fighter jet kharidna chahiye?
French fighter plane Rafale is reliable...
IAF and govt must choose Rafale in batch wise. I.e, 18 rafale now 18 after a certain period.... so that 118 nos. Can be reached.
IAF should consider the best fighter jet even if it costs a bit more as the life of our pilots matters the most as it takes a long time and effort to train a pilot to operate such a complex piece of machinery
Mig21 Best fighter emergency purchase karna chaheye.
IAF will decide
Bhai mig ka jet abhi aircraft carrier ka lia properly ready nahi hua ha🤔
We have less funds, we can't replace all our old fleet with twin engine aircraft. That's why if we can select f 21 for genuine price of 55-65 million dollar., It will be a good deal. F 21 has the best radar and avionics.
Which 'One' would be best for IAf according to you in MMRCA ??
Koi nhi bolega ki MIG-29 bekar hai as the ghost of Kiev already proved this plane
Then why IAF is purchasing additional MIG-29's having found so many faults and lacunas during sorties and audits?. There are serious failures of engines and aircraft crashes during our routine training sorties. Still why does India purchase these flying coffins?. We loose vauable life and money...
MiG 29, which IAF operates is different from MiG 29M2 Family, from which the MiG 29K and MiG 35 comes.
I love your nay-saying and your armchair air marshall attitude. The Indian navy and the Indian airforce are really amateurs and know nothing about their job, that is why they have bought more mothballed Mig-29s from Russia. I highly recommend your inclusion in the next committee on aircraft selection for India. I also truly believe that you should be part of the TEDBF and AMCA monitoring team. That is the only way your deep knowledge of aircraft, airframes, avionics, engines, and weaponry can be utilized.
And agar hum Rafeal ya koi aur fighter jet select karte hai to uska manufacturing plant India me setup karne me kam se kam 5 saal lagege aur mmrca deal ko final karne ki process me bhi 2 saal lagege to 7 saal baad mmrca tender wale aircraft ka production start hoga aur Manlo 18+ aircraft per year Hume delivery mile to bhi 5 saal delivery complete hone me lagege aur uske baad trials me 1-2 saal lagega to 14 saal baad hamare pas mmrca wale aircraft ayege usse pehle hun MWF ORCA TEDBF aur AMCA sare project ko nipata dege matlab development complete ho jayega sare aircraft ka aur 2025 Tejas mk1A, MK2 ka production start ho jayega AMCA ka development complete hote hote ORCA ya TEDBF ka production start ho jayega aur tab tak AMCA K trials chal rahe hoge 2030 tak hum AMCA ka production start karne ki position me hoge
India needs Mig35 but we can induct after its naval version is inducted in Russia. Engine needs to be improved & 400 km radar to be introduced in Mig35. Engine & aircraft has to be made in India with technological transfer. With this it should be best option as MMRCA will only be done in 2021. We have time & can back with 45 Rafael 4 till Mig35 is made in India
We need to finish the MMRCA in next few months
Get a government deal between top 2 fighters
USA : f15x for airforce 114 and F18 for Navy - Trump uncle if u want an alliance give us a good deal
France : Rafael for both Airforce and Navy
Get them to compete and who ever gives less price + transfer of tech + engine tech + help with AMCA and ORCA
LMAO why don't you go and negotiate then? F18 is outdated btw
@@gameplayvideos3113 nobody will give engine tech. France gave the best offer to us but also decided to charge Royalty and modify the engine's core of Kaveri.
MMRCA 2 scrap kar k 114 Rafale F3r le leni chahiye. F4 aur F3r main zyada difference nahi hain. Bas thira bargaining kar k price drop kar k TOT k saath le le to IAF ka aram se kaam chal jayega
They fixed the smokey engine btw
India should buy JF-17 from Pakistan for single engine solution. And go to China for twin engine solution (J-11/J-16)
Rd 33 toh Pakistan bhe use karta hi jf-17 me aur Jo new block-3 hi me upgraded version hi, mujhe yeh nahi samaj aa raha ke Pakistan kaise isse effective tarike se use kar pa raha hi????
Dude, why you put a title in English if you are going to speak Hindi???
Again a well analysed video.
Please India don't go for Junk outdated aircrafts just coz they are cheap which in fact later on will be difficult to maintain and the maintenance cost will skyrocket.For MMRCA go for Rafale or the cost effective maintaining wise Gripen..for Naval India should either go for F 18 ( to please our current world supporter) or the Naval variant of Rafale..look at the weapons coming along Rafale(BVR,ALCM) and other western planes.
Still we gave 12 plane orders
Lockheed Martin ki production capacity 290+ aircraft per year ki hai to agar mmrca me IAF F-35 ko select karta hai to 1 saal me hamare pas 100+ 5th gen aircraft aa jayega aur F-35 Rafeal se sasta hai 100+ K order per F35 ka price bhi kam ho sakta hai per TOT Nahi milega Iske badle America Hume 5th gen aircraft develope karne me ya phir jet engine develop karne me help kar sakta hai
Russia can at present scenario Give Jet engine TOT if India order 🔥🔥 in big numbers,
India urgently need Jet engine technology
Jab america ki taraf se f35 offer kiya gaya hai to india ko f35 jaroor kharidna chaiye.ye 5th generation aircraft hai. Aur indian amca ko kam se kam 10 saal lagenge service mein ane ki liye. Joki aaj ki halat dekhte huye sahi nai hai . At least
36 f35 to jaroor kharidna chahiye.
All That time I was thinking about my bajaj avenger.
J7 video??
Bhai that is not relevant right now, I have paused the work on it, because China will never use that against us.. so I am covering the relevant information right now, will upload that too but not now.
There are very limited options of fighter jets for Indian navy Mig , Hornet & rafale very rare chances (almost nothing)of F-35C/B.
Cost is not that far from fighters like grippen or f21, and f21 service life is much longer
😁😂🤣🤣🤣 as if you spent all your life designing aircraft before you became a youtuber.