I think the idea was to demonstrate the various tasks you can accomplish with water in the pipe, it allows for removal of valves, soldering, cutting out a small section of pipe and finally adding a new valve. Video wasn't entitled "look at my great soldering". Thanks Nerrad, another ingenious bit of kit.
For those who comment about it making no sense or why not do ya is way instead of that way....the point of this tool is to block water from a pipe when you need to solder....for anyone thats ever soldered before they know water kills the soldering....and you dont always have the option of turning off the main completely (like when theres minor bypassing on the main cut off and you still need to get the job done), it fits in the pipe and blocks off the water so you can solder, reguardless of what your soldering. Good tool and handy to have if you do pipe soldering on a regular basis, you may not use it on a daily/weekly/monthly basis but when you do need it it defenatlly gets you out of a jam
Alberto Lara I seriously could have used this last night, main wasn’t turning completely off and didn’t know it until I cut the pipe, thankfully I had a 12” hard toilet supply line I was able to use to get the water out and solder it real quick. Looked like crap though, this tool would have made it a nice job.
There are very few soldering situations that this would be useful. Only if you were soldering on a tap connector or something or like in the video, soldering on a straight with a very short piece of pipe. Highly unlikely you will need to do this and have passing water at the same time.
How would you use it for soldering? The heat would transfer along the pipe and melt the rubber . I used it to change valves on a tank and it broke after the second use , waste if money
How would you use it for soldering? The heat would transfer along the pipe and melt the rubber . I used it to change valves on a tank and it broke after the second use , waste if money
If memory serves me, watching one of your videos, you bit the bullet and purchased a set. And I went and purchased a set after seeing you use them. 🙂 excellent kit. Gotten me out of many holes!
This thing is only useful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. you can't sweat elbows, joint tuwo pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, or bibbs, IMO, this extremely limited usage doesn't justify its high price tag.I 'll stick with the white bread.
funny how this tool was shown to be used improperly by the people who made it lol it clearly states in the instructions (i own a jet sweat kit) do not use the handle to tighten the plug or you run the risk of loosening the threaded rod from the end nut, the handle is to hold while you use a wrench to tighten the rear jam nut
Mr Wilson, Thank you for your comment. Exactly, the Jet Swet is perfect for that situation. Always ensure though that the 'gasket' is 4 inches (100mm) upstream of where the direct heat source is being concentrated. If however after continued use, you found that you had caused slight damage to the 'gasket' for whatever reason (too close to a flame or inserting into a pipe that had large burrs, resulting in surface scoring) replacement ones can be purchased individually. Nerrad Tools
Mr Garcia, Thank you for your comment. Maybe, maybe not. If you are going to 'snatch' a new valve onto the pipe, what happens if you find the thread on the captive nut isn't the same as the one on the new gate valve. Nerrad Tools
You meant THE ONE AND ONLY USE of this stupid, overpriced gadget. This thing is only for soldering full-bore straight fittings at the open end of a pipe, nothing else.
It truly is an excellent bit of kit. I've used my boss's. I think 97 Gbp is a bit steep. Plus I think his was letting by a little. Who knows maybe I'll treat myself to a set. I think Nerrad need to brand themselves a little more. Many plumbers haven't heard of them. I can't recommend the versa funnel enough. I've brought a few of their products inc pipe cutters. A bit pricy but they cut copper pipe very well.
What is the dimension of the bung? I am looking at trying get boss to buy me one as have an isolation valve that's failed open. Makes it worse it's in a hospital ward so can't isolate and no space to get freezer on, 20mm pipe showing from boxing in.
This is a demo, best practice is to off the mains first (if possible) then use this otherwise pressure in some buildings won't be easy to contain in a bucket!
Because this thing is only helpful for soldering SOME straight fittings, nothing else. You can't sweat elbows, joint two pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, a plug or bibbs, IMO, this minimal usage doesn't justify its high price tag. I'll stick with the white bread.
@carlossarda3479 you can get a cheaper version at menards for 60 bucks. I mean yeah its for sweating shut off valves to regain control of water. Using bread is stupid and unprofessional.
@@LegendarySkypenis Are you really a Professional?? 'Sorry, but I wouldn't believe you, even if you showed me your license. I know very experienced MASTER plumbers, with centuries in the trade, who use the bread trick. In fact, that "unprofessional" trick has saved my own professional ass numerous times. If you were a pro, you'd know the stupid, expensive thing of the video has very limited use, only in straight pipes, straight fittings, and ball valves at an open end of a pipe,. If you're sweating at any angle, an elbow, a 45, a reducer, a gate valve, a Bibb, a supply valve, a regulator, a plug, join two pipes with a sleeve, etc., etc. which, needless to say, happens very often, this thing is completely USELESS. Bread works with ANYTHING. 60 Bucks for an almost useless thing?. FUCK NO!! Not even $10. I leave it for the -gadget-buying dumb ROOKIES, who dream they're Pros.
@@joshuaengel7119 This is a stupid, useless gadget for gadget-collecting rookies with more money than brains. The engineers who invented this for sure DID take this into account.
The rubber seal is a high temperature rubber. The kind used in automobile engines. Moreover, the water on the other side cools the seal. These things have been around for half a century and you can easily use one tool for two decades before the rubber needs to be replaced.
Travis k Why is that stupid. Sometimes the water department can’t find the shut off at the street. Sometimes the gate vale breaks in the house. I guess I would be stupid enough to try it.
@phillip miller Tru day i am not a license. plumber.. with 116 psi and a stuck curb stop I ain't goin near that sucker no guarantee an internal plug would stop the water flow 100% so soldering is out the ferule ring of a compression valve could misalign and I have 116 psi shooting into the basement shark bite from fullport ball valve would probably let me scoot it on with 116 psi shooting straight down but monkey hands unable to resist touching it might loosen it .. there is a clamping devise that cuts a hole and shuts a valve under pressure..... never used one .. if I foul it up .... bonkers... and where does the cut piece go ? can it clog the pipe or the valve ?
To service purposes is best not to sweat i mean u show u got skills but when is time to replace it no home owner gon worship ur skills since he gotta pay more for repair to be done
@@Kevin-ip8uf This thing is only useful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. You can't sweat elbows, joint tuwo pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, or bibbs, IMO, this extremely limited usage doesn't justify its high price tag.I 'll stick with the white bread.
That too, and this thing is only useful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. you can't sweat elbows, joint tuwo pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, or bibbs, IMO, this extremely limited usage doesn't justify its high price tag.I 'll stick with the white bread.
i wouldn't swet (sic) it about so-called "professional" plumber's comments. if i had a job that people eventually realize doesn't take a ton of talent or intelligence to master, i'd probably have the same attitude.
Why use a coupling, a butt piece and a compression valve. You could still use the same compression nut and brass ferrule, too. This video for the most part, made no sense.
Quite useless for soldering in a tee. That is probably what I would most likely do if cutting into a section of pipe. Quite unnecessary for compression type valves as chances are one can use the same nut and olive on the new valve or simply cut the pipe and fit the new valve onto the end of the freshly cut pipe. So unless one is using a soldered valve, very hard to find here in UK, then quite useless
Quite useless for soldering ANYTHING other than a straight fitting or a full-bore, straight valve, at the open end of a pipe. Try an elbow, a gate valve, a supply valve, a hose bibb, a 45-degree, a Reducer, join two pipes with a sleeve, a plug, etc, etc. This is a stupid, useless gadget for rookies with more money than brains.
They have to make the most possible profit QUICKLY, before people realize this stupid gadget is almost useless, There are not enough dumb newbies to make a profit in the long run
Why in the world would you go to all the trouble to remove the valve in the first place when you're just going to cut the pipe off? And the second why in the world is why in the world would you go to all this trouble just to put a compression valve back on? They don't need to be soldered. This is a really bad example of how to use this tool. This tool doesn't work on elbows or tee's
That's about the only thing you can do with this near to useless gadget, plug a full-bore straight pipe and solder a full-bore straight sleeve, not much else, so don't ask for other options.
This thing is only helpful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. you can't sweat elbows, Tees, 45s, joint two pipes with a sleeve, a reducer, a supply valve, a gate valve, hose bibbs, etc., etc., etc. IMO, this minimal usage doesn't justify its high price tag. I'll stick with the old white bread trick.
I think the idea was to demonstrate the various tasks you can accomplish with water in the pipe, it allows for removal of valves, soldering, cutting out a small section of pipe and finally adding a new valve.
Video wasn't entitled "look at my great soldering".
Thanks Nerrad, another ingenious bit of kit.
Various Tasks???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Try sweating an Elbow, a plug, a 45, or a Hose bibb🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Cybergodless Personally I would pressfit, but whatever. You do you.
@@LondonGas This is a stupid, useless gadget for rookies with more money than brains.
For those who comment about it making no sense or why not do ya is way instead of that way....the point of this tool is to block water from a pipe when you need to solder....for anyone thats ever soldered before they know water kills the soldering....and you dont always have the option of turning off the main completely (like when theres minor bypassing on the main cut off and you still need to get the job done), it fits in the pipe and blocks off the water so you can solder, reguardless of what your soldering. Good tool and handy to have if you do pipe soldering on a regular basis, you may not use it on a daily/weekly/monthly basis but when you do need it it defenatlly gets you out of a jam
Alberto Lara I seriously could have used this last night, main wasn’t turning completely off and didn’t know it until I cut the pipe, thankfully I had a 12” hard toilet supply line I was able to use to get the water out and solder it real quick. Looked like crap though, this tool would have made it a nice job.
There are very few soldering situations that this would be useful. Only if you were soldering on a tap connector or something or like in the video, soldering on a straight with a very short piece of pipe. Highly unlikely you will need to do this and have passing water at the same time.
Theres also the fact that sometimes old isolation valves dont work properly. the world isnt a perfect place, lol. lots of critics here
How would you use it for soldering? The heat would transfer along the pipe and melt the rubber . I used it to change valves on a tank and it broke after the second use , waste if money
How would you use it for soldering? The heat would transfer along the pipe and melt the rubber . I used it to change valves on a tank and it broke after the second use , waste if money
That's an ingenious tool.
Excellent video
Well constructed piece of kit. I bet it would be one of those bits of kit late Friday afternoon you wish you had , but didn't buy ! They expensive ?
If memory serves me, watching one of your videos, you bit the bullet and purchased a set.
And I went and purchased a set after seeing you use them. 🙂 excellent kit. Gotten me out of many holes!
Kurt Johnson indeed I did x2
This thing is only useful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. you can't sweat elbows, joint tuwo pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, or bibbs, IMO, this extremely limited usage doesn't justify its high price tag.I 'll stick with the white bread.
Boss tool for working on live stuff 👍
funny how this tool was shown to be used improperly by the people who made it lol it clearly states in the instructions (i own a jet sweat kit) do not use the handle to tighten the plug or you run the risk of loosening the threaded rod from the end nut, the handle is to hold while you use a wrench to tighten the rear jam nut
Next time I take a piss I’ll think of the pressure this thing can stop 😂
Mr Wilson,
Thank you for your comment.
Exactly, the Jet Swet is perfect for that situation. Always ensure though that the 'gasket' is 4 inches (100mm) upstream of where the direct heat source is being concentrated.
If however after continued use, you found that you had caused slight damage to the 'gasket' for whatever reason (too close to a flame or inserting into a pipe that had large burrs, resulting in surface scoring) replacement ones can be purchased individually.
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Tried to buy outta stock 🤷
Mr Garcia,
Thank you for your comment.
Maybe, maybe not. If you are going to 'snatch' a new valve onto the pipe, what happens if you find the thread on the captive nut isn't the same as the one on the new gate valve.
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You scream like a bitch for help..... And towels
if you are going to use compression valves , you don't need the jett swet
could keep the gush from dislodging the ferule
My thoughts too
😂
How does the rubber seal not burn up after a couple uses
There's water behind it the copper puts all of the heat into the water
The rubber seal is a high temperature rubber. The kind used in auto mobile engines.
people moaning why it was done that way 😂😂😂😂
clearly to demonstrate the uses of it... wow
You meant THE ONE AND ONLY USE of this stupid, overpriced gadget. This thing is only for soldering full-bore straight fittings at the open end of a pipe, nothing else.
It truly is an excellent bit of kit. I've used my boss's. I think 97 Gbp is a bit steep. Plus I think his was letting by a little. Who knows maybe I'll treat myself to a set.
I think Nerrad need to brand themselves a little more. Many plumbers haven't heard of them. I can't recommend the versa funnel enough. I've brought a few of their products inc pipe cutters. A bit pricy but they cut copper pipe very well.
Mr Willson,
Thank you for your comment.
Being honest, the video demo has to show the full use of a Jet Swet.
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I was wondering would this tool work for a main line ?
Hello! I from Spain, here Cu is 12-15-18-22-28-35 ....the jet swet is valid?? Thanks
thanks for the demo
I’m digging that copper tubing cutter at :42. Who makes that???
Nerrad. It's their ratchet pipe slice - they make diffent sizes, comes in handy in tight spots, I use mine all the time.
hi.what is the model of the wrench used in the vid? many thanks
knipex
What is the dimension of the bung? I am looking at trying get boss to buy me one as have an isolation valve that's failed open. Makes it worse it's in a hospital ward so can't isolate and no space to get freezer on, 20mm pipe showing from boxing in.
The bungs come in different dimensions. You seriously order them by that size. look it up.
Why not use a sweat ball valve?
Hi does the tool fit through only full bore isolation valves or will it fit through the narrower non fill bore valves. Thanks
Full bore only!
Of course not!! This is a stupid, very limited use gadget for rookies with more money than brains.
This is a demo, best practice is to off the mains first (if possible) then use this otherwise pressure in some buildings won't be easy to contain in a bucket!
I get ur showing the use of this but it's a compression valve it doesn't matter if there's water in it
what if your replacing a vertical pipe & it drips n drips n drips no valve do u keep adding valves everytime you get a pinhole..? lol seriously tho
Good Job thank you
why not just sweat the ball valve on?
Why not just put a sweat valve on that instead of sweating coupling and compression valve?
Because this thing is only helpful for soldering SOME straight fittings, nothing else.
You can't sweat elbows, joint two pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, a plug or bibbs, IMO, this minimal usage doesn't justify its high price tag. I'll stick with the white bread.
@carlossarda3479 you can get a cheaper version at menards for 60 bucks. I mean yeah its for sweating shut off valves to regain control of water. Using bread is stupid and unprofessional.
@@LegendarySkypenis Are you really a Professional?? 'Sorry, but I wouldn't believe you, even if you showed me your license.
I know very experienced MASTER plumbers, with centuries in the trade, who use the bread trick. In fact, that "unprofessional" trick has saved my own professional ass numerous times.
If you were a pro, you'd know the stupid, expensive thing of the video has very limited use, only in straight pipes, straight fittings, and ball valves at an open end of a pipe,.
If you're sweating at any angle, an elbow, a 45, a reducer, a gate valve, a Bibb, a supply valve, a regulator, a plug, join two pipes with a sleeve, etc., etc. which, needless to say, happens very often, this thing is completely USELESS.
Bread works with ANYTHING.
60 Bucks for an almost useless thing?.
FUCK NO!!
Not even $10.
I leave it for the -gadget-buying dumb ROOKIES, who dream they're Pros.
what if the water is on full blast
I wonder will the heat melt the end of that tool. But by the looks of it it's a brilliant bit of kit to have
Ye the engineers who invented this didn't take into account to make it heat proof
@@joshuaengel7119 This is a stupid, useless gadget for gadget-collecting rookies with more money than brains. The engineers who invented this for sure DID take this into account.
The rubber seal is a high temperature rubber. The kind used in automobile engines. Moreover, the water on the other side cools the seal. These things have been around for half a century and you can easily use one tool for two decades before the rubber needs to be replaced.
Nice.
anybody use a jet swet to stop a 1/2" copper pipe flowing under full pressure ?
Are you asking if anyone is stupid enough to try this? I am sure it will hold but I doubt its what the manufacture wants people to do.
This made me laugh. I mean, if i had no idea where your main shut off was but I just so quickly had this bad boy handy..... eh, I’d give it a shot.
Travis k Why is that stupid. Sometimes the water department can’t find the shut off at the street. Sometimes the gate vale breaks in the house. I guess I would be stupid enough to try it.
@phillip miller
declined job.. city pressure 116psi
@phillip miller
Tru day
i am not a license. plumber.. with 116 psi and a stuck curb stop I ain't goin near that sucker
no guarantee an internal plug would stop the water flow 100% so soldering is out
the ferule ring of a compression valve could misalign and I have 116 psi shooting into the basement
shark bite from fullport ball valve would probably let me scoot it on with 116 psi shooting straight down
but monkey hands unable to resist touching it might loosen it ..
there is a clamping devise that cuts a hole and shuts a valve under pressure..... never used one .. if I foul it up .... bonkers... and where does the cut piece go ? can it clog the pipe or the valve ?
To service purposes is best not to sweat i mean u show u got skills but when is time to replace it no home owner gon worship ur skills since he gotta pay more for repair to be done
Ball valve.
Water heater supply lines
U sweat em then they cant be removed
Will stick to my rotherberg electric pipe freezer
Any good?? Was thinking buying an electric pipe freezing kit
Nearly seven hundred buck Canadian on Amazon. Think I'll just shut the main off.
Pick one up in the states. They're about $100.
@@Kevin-ip8uf This thing is only useful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. You can't sweat elbows, joint tuwo pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, or bibbs, IMO, this extremely limited usage doesn't justify its high price tag.I 'll stick with the white bread.
@@Kevin-ip8uf The only way I'm getting this is for free, and I think I'd sell it a few seconds after I receive it.
much cheaper used in ebay like all tools
ya dont need that tool for a compression fitting
why wasnt the olive just cut off with a removal tool?
because this is a demonstration video of the techniques you can use a jet swet tool. Think of it as a commercial.
some people dont understand sometimes isolation valves fail, the world isnt a perfect place and sometimes things go wrong. lol
Would a press tool render that tool absolete?
That pressure pretty low
Not for high pressure
That too, and this thing is only useful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. you can't sweat elbows, joint tuwo pipes, a supply valve, a gate valve, or bibbs, IMO, this extremely limited usage doesn't justify its high price tag.I 'll stick with the white bread.
bet thats fun at mains pressure ... u still get wet so pointless really
if you dont know what your talking about keep your mouth shut
phillip bull you’re an idiot, it’s when you can’t fully turn of the water and need to solder.
Wait what did I just watch...just sweat a ball valve on...omfg
Good product but you should have got a real plumber to do the demo
A real plumber wouldn't buy nor use this stupid gadget. This thing is for rookies with more money than brains
i wouldn't swet (sic) it about so-called "professional" plumber's comments. if i had a job that people eventually realize doesn't take a ton of talent or intelligence to master, i'd probably have the same attitude.
This almost useless, stupidly overpriced gadget is for newbies with more money than brains.
Why use a coupling, a butt piece and a compression valve. You could still use the same compression nut and brass ferrule, too. This video for the most part, made no sense.
Thomas Rains jr they used a coupling aswell to show you, you can solder with it also.
I hope that you you are less of a dumb than 4 years ago 😂😂
Thrasher Fromhell 😂😂😂
Quite useless for soldering in a tee. That is probably what I would most likely do if cutting into a section of pipe. Quite unnecessary for compression type valves as chances are one can use the same nut and olive on the new valve or simply cut the pipe and fit the new valve onto the end of the freshly cut pipe. So unless one is using a soldered valve, very hard to find here in UK, then quite useless
Quite useless for soldering ANYTHING other than a straight fitting or a full-bore, straight valve, at the open end of a pipe.
Try an elbow, a gate valve, a supply valve, a hose bibb, a 45-degree, a Reducer, join two pipes with a sleeve, a plug, etc, etc.
This is a stupid, useless gadget for rookies with more money than brains.
Wow, this kit is a little overpriced. $300 for the full kit! $125 for 1/2 thru 1" !
The case is 50$
this useless gadget is for Mickey mouse plumbers with more money than brains
They have to make the most possible profit QUICKLY, before people realize this stupid gadget is almost useless, There are not enough dumb newbies to make a profit in the long run
Nice, but at $200, it's a rip off!
At $10 it's a rip-off.
Why in the world would you go to all the trouble to remove the valve in the first place when you're just going to cut the pipe off? And the second why in the world is why in the world would you go to all this trouble just to put a compression valve back on? They don't need to be soldered. This is a really bad example of how to use this tool. This tool doesn't work on elbows or tee's
That's about the only thing you can do with this near to useless gadget, plug a full-bore straight pipe and solder a full-bore straight sleeve, not much else, so don't ask for other options.
Heating the bottom and filling from the top, rookie mistake.
Mr Wratchford,
Thank you for your comment but that is the recognized way to solder a fitting here in the UK.
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On that size pipe it really doesnt matter.
Did not deburr you hack
Please don't buy these they broke after the second time i used them , waste of time
This thing is only helpful for soldering some straight fittings, nothing else. you can't sweat elbows, Tees, 45s, joint two pipes with a sleeve, a reducer, a supply valve, a gate valve, hose bibbs, etc., etc., etc. IMO, this minimal usage doesn't justify its high price tag. I'll stick with the old white bread trick.