Arizona to end deal allowing Saudi farms to suck Arizona's groundwater dry
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Fondomonte and Almarai grow alfalfa in Arizona, cut it, bale it and truck it to port. Then it's shipped back to Saudi Arabia to feed dairy cows.
Whoever “sold” the people of Arizona’s water should all Be put in prison.
Some government employee bureaucrat that’s never had a real job or worked in a for profit entity - like a company.
@@lynnroberts76 No, look to the previous administrations. It's all about $$$.
Says it was the State..
leased.
Blame the Democrats.
First foreign companies should not be allowed to least farm land and the people who signed the lease to allow this unchecked abuse need to be held responsible
Our government is selling us out for foreign money. FJB.
And take away all their profits, it's only way they will ever learn.
They probably greased the palms of the ones who allowed this in the first place
@@Vulvaluver I would not doubt it
Follow the money, they will never tell the people got the money.
Hallelujah! Arizona should NEVER sell our water to anyone else ESPECIALLY if a company doesn't sell their products here!
Duh, this is exactly the point, water belongs to the people. Those who want to “OWN” or “CONTROL” water, needs to be impeached or voted out of office. Those billionaires shouldn’t be able to buy water rights. Politicians can’t be the controllers of this basic human need.
@@CSmith-oz4wp yeah the major corporations dumping forever chemicals into our water supply shouldn't be held responsible
anyone can use as much water as they want, want to drain all local well water and dump it into the ocean? Go for it
Sell? If they aren't measuring the use, they are GIVING it away.
@@CSmith-oz4wpdemocrat says:>- billionaires must pay their fair share....so what do they do....they raise the debt ceiling so billionaires will have a slush fund if needed
@@Paulftate debt ceiling has nothing to do with billionaires wealth. Their wealth comes from not having a check and balance on monopolies and the control of markets. We can thank the last few decades or more to the politicians who have been paid off so those that control have massive profits, all effecting the citizens. Look what happen from the COVID-19 events, since then the controllers, corporations and billionaires have bought up control. Profit margins have doubled and we are the ones paying it and not fighting back to lower prices. We have just excepted it without a fight. We’re the idiots.
The fact that they chose a place halfway around the world without a lot of water, to grow a crop that needs a lot of water, tells you all you need to know about the politics, policies, and business practices of Arizona and Saudi Arabia.
I can’t believe they couldn’t find a better place to do this.
@@JacqueCRISCOsd They cand find, but the governement of these places dont allow them to reduce their water level for their food.
@@JacqueCRISCOsd They could have, in their own country! Israel has turned the desert into an oasis! They haven't touched theirs.
Seriously is there some reason alfalfa can't be grown in one of the states that has so much water that they have literal swamps?
@Michael-uc2pn No reason other than MONEY. If they get a "sweetheart deal" they'll take it. Obviously they're to lazy to do it themselves. Talk about expectations of privilege?
About dang time! Who approved the lease in the first place? They should be investigated for letting the Saudis use Arizona water at the expense of the people of Arizona.
One of the many convicted AZ governors.
@@tvdinner325 Republican governor Ducey did it but is not convicted yet! He must be investigated!
It was republican governor Duecey
One word. Clinton
@@GEOsustainable Nope, wrong again, as usual. Nice lie though.
Our country as a whole has some criminal leadership in offices at all levels.
If by “our country” you mean Russia, then yeah..
These leases get approved by Republican governors and approved by Republicans in the state house.
@@meminustherandomgooglenumbersWhat? 😂😂😂
@@frankgrabasse4642Imagine thinking there's any difference. 😂😂😂
@@slappy8941 If by “our country” you mean Russia, then yeah..
Wait. So a country where it is illegal to grow alfalfa because they’re in a desert and it requires too much water was somehow allowed to legally do this in a different desert? Why on earth did they not buy land in a more fertile water enriched area, or at least pay American farms currently in such regions to grow it?
Money. And that’s a logical approach of which is absent in all government departments and employees
Yeah because nobody's going to be growing Alfalfa voluntarily. It's a waste of our land resources.
In case you didn’t know many foreign countries farm in the United States. And like this farm, they lease the property from the United States.
Many people will sell out this country for money. What makes this worse is the U.S. government allows this and even encourages it.
I'm thinking the same thing. Why not buy a farm in an area more suitable to growing the crop.
It absolutely blows my mind to think that someone actually allowed this to take place to begin with considering where our water constraints in Arizona to begin with. They were talking recently about the possibility of restricting water use in Phoenix, while selling our water off to another country? 🤦🏻♂️ Accountability just doesn’t happen anymore unless it’s from the government down. That needs to change all over the country and world actually.
Nestle is known for pumping from fresh water sources to tankard out for you to buy at the local store.
@@bettyh3747 I know. I have never spent a dime on their water. I use in house filter systems.
Trump
@@ihmpall what does Trump have anything to do with Arizona lawmakers and a water decision they made?
Growing alfalfa in the desert seems odd to me. I thought socal to west texas the only thing that can survvie worth growing would maybe be peppers 😂
Brilliant. I’m a landowner in Arizona and we need to take care of things here in America before we let them use our water into oblivion amounts of gallons to feed their cows 🐄 in a different country. It’s ridiculous to think they even have the rights to pump our water 💦.
That’s what you get for electing republicans. Same gang who voted China into the WTO.
It doesn't really matter which country the soulless megacorp is that's doing this is from, what matters is ground water management. If they boot out this Saudi agri-corporation, and then seamlessly phase in an American one doing the exact same thing the people of Arizona will have gained nothing.
Let them drink the oil the screw us with.
Kick them out forcefully , it is your obligation!
@@ChristianThePagannestle will be 1st at the door.
Ask Formerr Gov. Duncey how the Saudis got such a sweetheart deal. You might want to check the balance on his bank account from around the time the deal was made. That could prove to be informative.
Thank you, Governor Hobbs!
I thought that gimmedat toad was gone already. Oh well. MAGA!
@@frankmorris4790 Yes, he is gone from office due to a limit on the number of terms he could legally serve as governor. But he was definitely involved in helping to bring about this sweetheart deal for the Saudis.
if that be so, then he deserves the same treatment as any other criminal, Repugnican or Gimmedat!@@clayoreilly4553
@@jeffcziranka6349 I'm sure you would know, wouldn't you, Jeff? Gov. Hobbs is a woman, by the way. Just so you know.
Hobbs is a her...@@jeffcziranka6349
Whoever sanctioned this should be held criminally accountable.
Jan Brewer/Doug Ducey! Both corrupt republicans!
John McCain.
Republicans
@@happycamper4483 again John McCain and neo cons have their hands in this
Money talks
Foreign entities should not be owning farmland in the U.S. for any reason, we know damn well they would not allow us to purchase land in their countries.
If they want something in particular they should be buying it from our markets, not coming in and doing it themselves and taking advantage of our citizens in the process.
Take a wild guess how much farmland China owns in America.
The State not knowing the condition of it's natural resources because some vague wording doesn't require the group to report their use is a GROSS injustice. Especially in an arid region where water is a finite valuable commodity, they should know where every ounce is going. I don't even live in Arizona but I say kick them out.
Republican bureaucrats specifically cut funding to public monitoring of public resources because they want to swindle that money to private entities. Because you know, the environment is fake or whatever
They would need to be in an active management area and have a well that surpasses a certain pumping limit. Getting an AMA is extremely hard as many people don’t want water to be metered if they have wells on personal property
I mean it is hard to tell how much water is underground. Its way easier if the water is above ground as you can easily see how much there is
No foreign entities should ever be aloud to purchase American Land of anykind.
Absolutely! The Chinese should not be allowed to be involved in the car battery factories either.
It should be contrary to our Federal laws to allow foreign ownership of over 1% of American land, period.
Other nations have very restrictive laws about non citizens owning property, either directly or by proxy, even via a family member.
Why shouldn't we secure our land?
I can't of any reason why US land should belong to any non citizens.
Yes all land owned by outsiders should be confiscated and sold at auction for pennies on the dollar and that money given to parks and recreation
So then other countries should ban Americans from owning their land? Or harvesting their natural resources? It is a two-way street. Having said that, the cancelation of the contract is a wise move. The American SW can't afford to waste water.
@@JohnC-yx5tq yes! Americans shouldn't be harvesting others resources. They should be putting money in America. We can buy from other countries but we don't need to be there.
Saudi Arabia can buy crops that they need...non-U.S. citizens should never be allowed to buy land in this country.
Saudi's did not buy the land, if you paid attention to the news report the land was leased.
By the "thumbs up" your comment received apparently you are not the only one with English comprehension problems
@@RoadCaptainEntertaingood one! So many people have selective hearing these days.
@@RoadCaptainEntertain Yes, in THIS case, the land was Leased, in other cases Land was bought by Non US Companies and People outright.
@@RoadCaptainEntertainthe Saudi’s were only interested in getting access to the water 💧
China OWNS almost 400,000 acres of American farmland. And this is by design.
About time this was addressed. Clean water is a advantage to these naturally dry with little rain fall per year at best. These resources must be conserved and NOT exported to other countries.
Conserved for what? The water is clearly not being used anywhere and that's why nobody can be bothered to track it.
We allowed copper to be mined by Canadians. What's the difference?
I bet the individuals who negotiated those leases continue to enjoy the commissions they received.
A lot of $$$ changed hands in that deal. Look for the $$$ trail. Doucey and his associates.
@@juju-xx5xn Like Hobbs who was secretary of state?!
Only citizens should be able to own land in our country! I'm sick of corporations and foreign investors buying our country out from underneath our feet!
China buying up the planet
The non-citizen communist Chinese own MILLIONS of houses in California! THEY are the reason there is no affordable housing for working American families. There was plenty of "supply" until the aliens drove the prices up (with corruption CASH).
I mean bro i can start a corporation and buy land. Corporations are people. I invest in an oil hauling corporation that has 1 single employee and makes tens of millions of dollars.
But i do understand your concern because there is corrupt corporations like blackrock who is you let them, would totally demonicallt satanically enslave us
Are you aware of immigrants? Do you really expect every immigrant to not be able to own land? Citizenship takes a long time to earn. Companies and farms certainly should have to be American to own or use land.
@@benp439 How do I, as an American, own a small house and very small amount of land in Thailand, China, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia? I WAS an immigrant. I married in Thailand and wanted to spend the rest of my life there, with my wife. YES, I speak fluent Thai and read it. I was DENIED, even the dignity of permanent residency with my family. I will never forget (or forgive) that treatment. It should all be RECIPROCAL. Two-ways, not one-way. Over 300,000 Thais have a green card in my country, with PERMANENT RESIDENCY (automatic) and full civil and property rights (they can buy any number of houses or land, without limit).
The bigger question we need to DEMAND an answer for is:; why were we letting this happen IN THE FIRST PLACE?! We need to find the people that allowed this to happen, and throw every last one of them in prison for the rest of their lives.
Probably money
@@frog212whyd4 that’s behind why the politicians and businesses did it. I want to know why we are letting this happen to our nation. I want to know why we are allowing our political leaders to destroy this nation as well as the people who live in it. It’s inexcusable, abhorrent and needs to be fixed now.
@@frog212whyd4exactly why ..
@Shteven agreed. Just whenever I say that I get much profile flagged
Find the politicians with the greasy palms
All those conservatives you got down there gettin along and sharing with our Middle Eastern brothers and sisters so well comes under the heartfelt, warm and fuzzy category of news! How sweet and friend forward!
She is absolutely correct, these leases should never have been put in place to begin with. We need to quit giving our limited resources to other countries!
Now imagine when it is in-house, like Texas stealing NM's water.
@@antonybay9858 I had the idea of fencing Texas out of NM. Good on them!
Racist
That includes giving them our money. When so much is lacking for necessities right here at home.
@@IanMikrutidiot
Someone must have gotten a pretty handsome payoff when these leases were signed.
Republicans did.
The big guy got his 10%.
The republican governor who signed the deal
And now check every lease in every state. Dedicate a computer to the job and have it run forever checking and rechecking then notifying news outlets before any corrupt govt officials. Hell, do that kind of thing with EVERYTHING.
Ummm. 😅 Who do you think owns the media? It's entirely censored an ran by the Weinsteins family. Which is Baraks family. Which is Trumps family. Which is Googles. Which is Fauchi. Which in my city epsteins coworker lex wexner created his own city an runs media an made Victoria secrets. Who also owns college campus an hospital an science centers around town.
Put all the people who sold our water in jail!!!!
First Arizona has a law from like the 1800’s that gives both mining operations and farming operations unlimited use of water. Around Kingman they have big farms that consume large amounts of water that’s causing Kingman problems also.
Plus the republican governor who approved the deal
There goes your tax base.
The capitalist mode of production assumes unlimited resources
@@thanhavictus you assume derp derp derp.
And you don't know much about capitalism.
Yes. The segment did allude to areas in AZ where the use of water by industrial agriculture is not regulated or monitored per the terms of the lease. In a desert. The value is the water underneath the leased land, and the Big Ag corps don't have to pay for it. I wonder who wrote the terms of those leases? It is a 'taking' from the people.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. About time, get the foreign “farm” companies out of the U.S. now!
It's my understanding that some Saudi Arabians also own water rights in California. I hope this is looked into there and also other states and or areas that I and the general public may be unaware of.
It's ok Saudi Arabia paid Jared and ivanka🤣😹😸😂😆
Kick the Saudi’s out of the country
I live in southwest Michigan, near little Berg called Pullman, 1 open gas station, 1 closed gas station, Dollar General Store, a small family run grocery store, Big Christian outreach center, a bar, pizza joint, some other things.
Anyways, Chinese company tried buying , leasing whatever, land alot further North in our state to build an electric Battery plant. Not sure on status of that, but locals were putting up big fight against that plan. And I don't blame them. Especially if possibility of Ground water contamination, etc.
That city is a university city, smaller than U of M, or Michigan State. Luckily not close to lake Michigan.
You can't do that Saudis will Take back golf tournaments from trump And what about Jared's 2 Billion 🤣
They buy it at market value for whatever price was posted. And honestly, what difference does it really even make if it's a foreign or domestic buyer. Abuse of public resources is abuse no matter what and people should be held accountable. If anything domestic depletion of aquifers is a greater issue because of how much the USA demands for beef and dairy.
I live in Gila Bend ,area and I can tell, they have alfalfa crops everywhere and are pumping out water from dozens of water pumps 24 hours 7 days,year after year.
Time to shut them down
How nice of Arizona. (After the damage has already been done.)
Corruption I'm sure.
Well, that's dems for ya
Well who approved the lease???
Bet you it was a republican
Trump probably made a fortune screwing more Americans
@@trump45and2zig-zagsyou spelt republicans wrong
The officials (including the governor at the time) who signed over the land lease to the Saudi Arabian company got some major kickbacks behind the scenes.
Kudos to ASU on bringing this to public knowledge and pushback.
Thank Governor Hobbs for having the balls to do something about it!
Thank you for your Service !!
I agree 100%. I'm from Colorado and we are running out of water. Last year our Governor shipped our water out of Blue Mesa to California. It was a joke. Will take years to get to a normal level.
Rest assured this would have NEVER been an issue if the public didn't find out about it.
Arizona officials damn well knew it was going to Saudi and eating up precious ground water, but as long as the right palms were greased with bribes, it was A-OK.
Politicians are all crooks
It makes no sense to grow it in AZ when there are plenty of places to grow it in the United States that have no water shortages.
Not only that, but my understanding is that the brilliant team that created the deadly electrical grid failure of recent memory tied retirement income investment to profits from this project.
@@Meone103you're a bot
Thank you for taking a stand!!
There are many farms like this in Arizona with foreign ownership, thanks Doug Ducey! All of them should be kicked out!. Water use really needs to be sorted in AZ!
Doug Ducey let this happen, Gov Hobbs is gonna stop it
Republican Jan Brewer was Arizona Governor at the time, and had no control over the land.
@@kgolem79 Republican Jan Brewer was Arizona Governor at the time, and had no control over the land.
@@musicalcontessa4275 Ducey’s administration blocked requests from state planners for Fondomonte to install water meters and report water use. They were “cautious of tangling with a powerful company.” Fondomonte hired Arizona GOP finance chair and Ducey’s 2014 inaugural committee member Jordan Rose. Ducey’s appointed water resources director said “Those folks have as much right as any other individual in the state of Arizona to grow their produce, grow their crops, sell them, export them”.
@@kgolem79SHE WAS THE SECRETARY OF STATE GOOFY! SHE KNEW ABOUT IT THE WHOLE TIME! NOW TRY AGAIN YOU DEMONRAT CULT MEMBER
I find its totally insane that this could be done and someone would profit, with the huge transportational and crew costs involved
There has to be more behind the operation because there's no way they could make a profit with all the extra costs
To my knowledge other than watering alfalfa doesn’t require much other than water. These fields were all over michigan and I don’t remember farmers tending their fields except to plant and harvest. The rain took care of the water. One has to ask just how cheap they got the leases? Somebody’s palm get greased?
i think i heard [10,000 acres]
that's a lot of shipping
pretty sure it's just a good cover
Have you ever seen Peaches Grown in Argentina, Packed in Thailand and sold in US? Everything Cheaper when in bulk
@willofdodge1 sold at exorbitive prices without freshness
It’s about time! Absolutely insane that the State would allow this.
Free market capitalism. The Americans who owned this land leased it abroad to make a lot of money.
Money at the expense of everyone else living there.
Elon Musk is doing something similar in Germany, and he laughed at the accusation stating, "Look around you, there's so much water!"
@@Thor.JorgensenNo such thing as Free Market Capitalism. Banks have their Favorite Sons etc… Other than that, I agree with you. 😎
MONEY!!!!!!
@@giordanobruno1333 of course it’s money but these elected Representatives should not be voted in office or keep office when they put $$ before the citizens of AZ.
They allow foreign-owned mines.
Nothing can stop the idiocy of America. We voted ourselves to where we are now. Until we stop blaming individual politicians (whom we voted for) and start paying more attention to ourselves, our neighborhood, and the people who make promises to us AND empower ourselves to hold these people accountable, we will never fix what is broken.
Guarantee you there were a whole lot of kickbacks when those leases were signed guarantee is some politicians got fat
Make them pay a HUGE fine and make them understand why their own country doesn’t allow them to do so neither.
Racist
@@IanMikruthow is that racist?? I'll wait for a rational explanation below.
@@IanMikrutnot very smart, are you
@@IanMikrut 🤡
Who should pay a fine? The people who legally leased land? Why, just because you don't like it? The lessees did nothing wrong... so do you want to hurt people just because?
Thank God go, Katie. Protect the state you run.
In many countries it is illegal for foreign entities to own farmlands, in US money buys anything and people are least of our concerns
We should only be selling our land to Americans anyway but that's for another day. Our state is drying up and it's vital to protect our water. I am surprised that Hobbs actually made the right decision with this.
So who in the State Government thought these leases were a good ideal in the first place and how much did they get to sell out the citizens of the State? (Who, What, When & What was their cut)
We tell you but you don't want to hear it when it turns out to be "your team"
Too bad we can't be focused on wanting to hold EVERYONE accountable, equally, regardless of red team or blue team.
@@cosmicllama6910 Let the chips fall where they may - The difference is between a Red and Blue pill.
they want to take advantage of their oil, but dont want them to take advantage or their water??
The same is going on up in Mohave county with the almond orchards and alfalfa digging wells everywhere on Stockton Hill Rd and Pierce Ferry Rd.
It's a good starting point Arizona. Now follow up by shutting down all of these commercial groundwater hogs, including the neighborhood canals in Phoenix. I personally think state laws should also be enacted to restrict which plants and grasses are allowed to be grown in yards. Consumption of groundwater has to be reduced for the sake of the states own survival.
Don't the canals empower SRP? Just wondering..
You can thank this Ducey for this when you have no water to drink.
He and the other republicans were getting kickbacks of large $$$ amounts from the Saudis while letting them deplete our water supply.
Republican Jan Brewer was Arizona Governor at the time, and had no control over the land.
@@musicalcontessa4275 If that is true, how can Hobbs fix it now?
This would have been kept hush if fake Kari got in
Glad to see Americans taking care of America first!
Yes, this is good! Now, please make it so you know how much water is available and that that it doesn't get wasted. Make sure the indigenous people also have some!
You should know that their are no indigenous persons; only migrants from Eden.
That gender is a mental condition,; there is Man xy and Woman xx.
That there is water below the earth and above.
That sin causes the worlds problems and Yah is going to sort it out.
The republicans don't give a lick about the Indians, they would prefer the natives were all extirpated
Yes. The segment did allude to areas in AZ where the use of water by industrial agriculture is not regulated or monitored per the terms of the lease. In a desert. The value is the water underneath the leased land, and the Big Ag corps don't have to pay for it. I wonder who wrote the terms of those leases? It is a 'taking' from the people.
Well, this is one step in the right direction.
Seriously, some of these overseas-owned farms are allowed to operate basically unchecked by state law. Many of them are granted exemptions to drought limiting, and they use a ton despite Alfalfa being fully capable of being grown with much less.
But Alfalfa grows basically unlimited, so more water means more alfalfa. So they use *extreme* amounts to maximize production.
Yeah.... Alfalfa grows in other places where water is not in short supply.
I don't know why they picked one of the driest places in the United States.
@jamisojo Because Alfalfa thrives with a ton of sun, warmth, and water.
It's a yield of roughly *triple* in comparison to It's natural climates because it grows so much faster.
So if you want to maximize it, it's much easier and cheaper to just use a lot of water in a place that is naturally extremely warm and sunny, since it's much harder and expensive to artificially influence the other two factors.
A good step but it is only a short term answer to a long term problem.
Arizona needs access to the sea, desalination plants, and canal networks, not token efforts.
If California will not allow landlocked states to have access to the sea, they should lose all access to the Colorado river.
It's not just Arizona. This is a nationwide problem and it needs to be addresses federally. Desalination plants won't work without power and farms won't work without water and as much fun as decorating the place with solar panels would be, the systems aren't efficient enough to satisfy those kinds of power demands and we haven't even discussed the storage and massive pumps we'll need to move that water around.
Another reason to do this federally would be to keep this out of the hands of corporations - Look at Texas, those clowns can't keep the lights on as it is and they aren't shy about squeezing the population for every last dime in their pockets while they're freezing to death.
I'd be fine of my federal tax dollars went to nuclear power coupled with desalination plants and, if we don't want to end up like Fukushima, we need next generation Liquid Fueled Thorium Reactor power plants - Anything less and we should probably just leave the whole issue alone and hope for the best like we've been doing.
Freaking Nestle is busy as hell pumping ground water from Florida's springs to ship off to all of ya'll. We're not gonna be happy until we wreak complete and irreversible ecological disaster. Arizona should be entitled to their "natural" resources, which does NOT include the ocean...why move to a damned hostile desert and then believe themselves entitled to other's resources? The Colorado River is a NATURAL resource for California.
Let Arizona fund a canal to the Sea of Cortez WITH ITS OWN FUNDS. They ought to be able to afford it if it matters to them. Also, they could put solar panels on roofs and above sidewalks and parking lots to end reliance on non-renewable energy that worsens our climate situation.
Agreed. Ca does not need the lions share of water. I read ca is trying to protect some fish so fresh water is allowed to run out to sea.😠😡😡😡
@@alicel3992 it’s not smart to just destroy the environment as though temporary economic need justifies it.
This is RIDICULOUS. Saudi Arabia has every right to pump our water. Hope they take this to court! Justice for سعودي !
Any state, county and other area in America that is leasing land, etc, aquafirs, river and or lake water or growing crops for foreign countries needs to be investigated. The investigation must include a deep dive into the terms of the lease, amounts of resources being used, violations of the terms of the lease and what actions were taken to correct the lease violations AND how long the governments let these violations continued. What will it take for the powers that be to understand our resouces are finite. We are at a tipping point. We cannot continue to sell the resources that we depend on to survive: fresh water, clean air, and healthy, sustainable food sources. Pay attention and stop letting rich, over populated countries take our finite resources.
Not just rich people in other countries, but especially people like Gates/Buffett and many more that have sold out this countries resources. Washington and these States in some cases support what should be illegal in this country, just like America going into these other countries and taking minerals, natural resources. If we practiced good will across the Globe as we should, it would make a much better World for us all.
😂 Can't wait to see them investigate theirselves.
Guess whose responsibility that is Laara? Yours. It is YOUR responsibility to see what your politicians are up to. Can't be bothered? Then things will happen that you don't like. Want laws changed? That's ALSO your responsibility, to contact your politicians. Can't be bothered for that either? Like every other american? Then this will continue to happen, and it will be the fault of the voters.
People think a democracy means voting once every few years and nothing further is required. That's how democracies fall.
Well that's a stupid reply. They don't investigate themselves. NOBODY LEGALLY CAN. No corporation, no business, NOBODY!
@johnnyblade6088 prove your stupid reply by citing laws and lease agreements that prohibit investigations.
Kinda funny how they are preventing that specific landowner from using water to farm, but other farmers in the area can continue their unfettered use of water during droughts.
It's just political posturing. It's way easier to make big news with stopping a single farmer than to make any actual difference.
So thats where all our effing water went
And thank Ducey and the repuicans that allowed this to happen.
@richmondvaper 2-party illusion, much?
Been talking about this for over a year and people look at me like I'm a conspiracy theorist! GOOD JOB ARIZONA!
Amazing! hobbs is doing something for Az. Wow!
That's what democrats do. Real work.
@@shiddykiddy ha!
@@shiddykiddyLake would have let the saudis take all the water they wanted...
@shiddykiddy LMAO....have you checked the border lately.
@@Poly415federal problem that needs a military solution.
One step at a time. A good start.
It is time we stop allowing other countries to claim land in America. This nation needs take care of its own and stop trying to care for the world .😮
We should never stand for this Arizona has no right to sell United States to foreign investors if they do they need to be put in prison 😅😅Treason
Its about time
Finally. Yes! We need to preserve our aquifers for residents and local businesses. God willing we can repeat this in Mohave county.
Evidently, god willed this travesty in the first place.
you should see what they do here in New Zealand where they let Chinese owned companies to take our water FOR FREE to bottle for overseas sale. as we say they don't sell water or make water they make and sell plastic bottles.
and canada has nestle and other companies sucking our awuifers dry for virtually free.
And I bet all these foreign companies are backed by the government.
Cannot see the two replies. Why is that youtube gestapo's? Hiding some truth?
Good ! About time our government is standing up for the USA 🇺🇸
This kind of thing happens everywhere. Some of the reason for south Queensland and new drought and flood is major companies hoarding water, hell our biggest rover, the Murray River is sometimes at best a small muddy collection of puddles due to it.
Don't worry the Farmer's in Utah can still pump the Colorado river dry grow alfalfa for China.
Seriously?
Wow. That is all I can say. Sickening. Stop the madness.
Frankly I'm amazed that Arizona has that much water available to let them tap in. Glad that it might be coming to an end.
Corruption?
Yeah, those republicans are a corrupt bunch.
Yep. Republicans.
@shiddykiddy 2-party illusion durp
The question, given the scarcity of water in Arizona, is whether large scale farming should be allowed at all. Given that Phoenix has already given permits to build new housing that will exceed their allocated water limit, using large quantities of water for farming (and alfalfa? really?) seems short-sighted.
You're asking the questions Republicans never want to answer. To them, global warming is fake anyway. The capitalist mode of production assumes unlimited resources
Yes. It does seem short-sighted.
I'm not sure that a bunch of people who like the sunshine and want to live where water is not abundant have a better claim to it though.
People could farm elsewhere. People could also live elsewhere.
@@jamisojo Minnesota. No wonder you're so angry at the world. I'd be angry too if I had to live in Minnesota
Whoever made this deal to sell the water should be charged with Treason
BOUT TIME! Oops maybe there isn’t any more water to suck!
precisely... 2016 was almost 10 years ago and just now, the lease is simply not being renewed when it's up
Blame Ducey and the republicans that allowed this to happen
@richmondvaper 2-party illusion, much?
@@ShastaBeanThat’s who did it, so the blame is appropriate.
@strnglhld tell everyone you don't understand how things work - - without telling everyone you don't understand how things work.
But yah, stick that "side" and see how things work out. Should be interesting.
Hello fellow AM's
Yay!
You rid of one (1) agriculture development company but lets refresh your memory- We've 👏been 👏sold 👏 (ourselves) down 👏 the 👏 rivuh 👏 a 👏 long 👏 time 👏ago!!
If it was Illegal to grow, how were they allowed to grow it? They leased the land? Revoke the Lease and throw them out!
Illegal in Saudi Arabia not in Arizona.
The republican governor thought it was a good idea
@@frankmacleod2565 Repukes are all abut the money.
And the Dems are all about woke crap. Getting a blacklezbowoman in office is the priority, regardless of qualifications
@@frankmacleod2565And to hell with the environment!
Can you imagine having leadership that would allow such a thing, I do not consent to being ruled by traitors
The rich will always get richer as they convince the less than to support them and their policies.
As long as they keep us focused on their "Red team vs Blue team" games so we never come together and go after all of them at once.
The families of the 9 leven victims sued Saudi Arabia fyi
Republicans didn't care...
It’s about time some of these states wake up and take care of their own people first!
It would help if half of the population didn't see it as "hand outs" when we do help our own people.
That's how the politicians get away with not helping us at all while they help themselves to their own version of "hand outs"
It takes thousands of years for that water to seep down into the aquifer, and they are pumping it dry to farm alfalfa, which they could buy from farmers in the Midwest instead.
Imagine being so cavalier about water in a state such as Arizona. Leasing out land with water rights to a foreign country is bad enough but not having the slightest idea how much ground water is in that area in the first place?
And this has been going on for a few years? Disgusting.
Republicans go out of their way to strip public funding and public science to monitor the water table. On top of many other countless resources that would have otherwise considered public common goods.
Who's going to pay the hydrologist to set up monitoring stations and catalog the numbers in a server? In a fair and non-biased way? Yeah you can't do that in a government shutdown
What about the other areas of Arizona who allows other countries to grow food out in the east
Shut down their treasonous businesses.
One of the comments triggered me to wonder how people could simply drive by this area and never wonder about all the sprinkling be done, if Arizona is experiencing such severe draught condition ...so I had a search of "Butler Valley, Arizona, USA" .....using GOOGLE EARTH .......and low and behold, it zeroed directly onto these alfalfa fields.
THERE ARE NO HIGHWAYS close by. There is only ONE access road and the entire operation of these alfalfa fields are visible from the satellite photos ....BUT NOT FROM ANY LAND TRAFFIC. This massive operation is NOT visible to anyone. There is a rail line that parallels the #72 Highway. There is also a huge stack of shipping containers beside the rail line that is only visible from the land view. There are also four grain rail cars sitting idle, so this must be a siding point. There is a building that may be for loading grains ...and a typical communications tower. So all the shipping requirements are available.
YUP this was well thought out and those responsible in government .....were probably bought out to let the purchases through and keep quiet.
15 massive fields, operating, at different growth stages for efficient continuous year-round harvesting. There are TWO fields ready to START, and room to immediately begin preparing land on THREE more sections. A lot of agriculture equipment sitting at the ready, 15 pieces of BIG equipment and what appears to be one main building for processing/packaging for shipping.
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Absurdity at it's greatest.. Sometimes making a buck is immoral..
Good. I was wondering why even water has been getting more expensive here
Needs to be more than just just the country of Saudi Arabia that is prohibited from growing cropz there.
Other states are more appropriate for heavy-water-use crops.
Arizona needs to teach farmers about growing biome-appropriate, food-producing vines, trees, shrubs and perennials, as well as adopting mob grazing.
This would replace much of the highly irrigation-dependent annual ag, as well as CAFOs and overgrazing.
This would also reduce electrical grid strain as pumping water uses a lot of electricity.
Look into Mark Shepard about biome-appropriate ag methods called restoration ag.
Unlike many states, Arizona has a long-standing law on the books allowing unlimited water use for farming operations.
@@meminustherandomgooglenumbers
That's a bit of a tangent to what I am saying.
@@b_uppy Not really. If they’d place limits on the water supply, then farmers would be compelled to learn those things on their own.
@@meminustherandomgooglenumbers
"Compelled" is a form of control, which I have a problem with. Think it's better when consumers vote with their dollars, and can be faster, too.
@@b_uppy Dude. Prohibition isn’t a form of compulsion? What exactly are you smoking?
Someone got paid off to let this happen. They should look at who made the deal in the beginning and investigate their assets and take them if they were bribed.
Let's hope the same restrictions are imposed on the farms in Wilcox, Cochise County.
Finally, hopefully the rest will cut ties with Saudi’s.
Yes! Water can no be wasted!
Good to hear this. Also,glad to hear Arkansas forcing a Chinese company to sell its US farmland.
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Good!
It is unacceptable for the government officials to secure that deal without a vote from the public to begin with....😡
This farmland should be given to people who want to grow crops for our country and that should be it
As soon as they pay Hobbs the money she's asking for they will be able to continue with the lease
So Fondmonte got unlimited water for free?
Almarai bought about 15 square miles in the Arizona desert. Republican Governor Jan Brewer had no control over this.
Why was this deal allowed to begin with? Why are foreign countries/people allowed to own land/property in the United States of America? Have we as a nation really become this stupid, greedy, and not caring about the sovereignty of our nation? The melting pot needs to stop melting. 🤔🤔✌️✌️
I've wondered if foreign ships that travel the great lakes could fill their bales with lake water and take it to country of origin.