Jeff Stelling & Ally McCoist DEBATE If Man United's FA Cup Display Was EMBARRASSING For Ten Hag 👀
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- talkSPORT's Jeff Stelling and Ally McCoist discuss if Erik ten Hag should be embarrassed by Manchester United's FA Cup performance against Coventry City.
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As a United fan i feel like we lost that. Very embarrassing
Yes it was
To be fair they got back because of a massive deflection and a pen that was never a pen, especially if the grealish one isn’t a penalty, it was very unlucky.
@eirebhoy132 yeah but comon mate we've seen it all damn season bottling leads..the chances shouldn't be coming to coventry in the first place especially when 3 nil up. Simply United have to learn to close shop up better
Exactly! Unlucky lucky it doesn't matter, this team is terrible and not on paper. But you shouldn't ever lose a 3-0 lead whoever you are playing.
Very honest of you mate, i wish more would say it as they seen it, otherwise they will stagnate for even longer
Fair play to Ally Mcoist giving Coventry their fair props.
As a Utd fan I wanted Coventry to win
agreed, i really cant stand half of the players. shocking attitudes for so called professionals and paid bags of money for
Ratcliffe ran the London Marathon yesterday morning and was all warmed up...he should've gotten some gametime for going the extra mile.
He should have ran back to Old trafford instead. lol
Would have been more effective on the wing than Rashford all season.
@@beefsuprem0241 I am not sure of that mate. He is 71.
@@andrewclarke2472 Why ? How is the performance his fault given he barely has gotten his feet through the door ?
The disrespect the media are showing Coventry is mental. All because it’s Manchester United. If that game was against anyone else, everyone would be praising Coventrys spirit.
What "disrespect" are you referring to as all I've read & heard is immense praise for Coventry?
What ya mean. Everyone's literally slagging off utd and rightly so. All I've heard is the praise for Coventry. They were hard done by and deserved to go through. We are an embarrassing club and we deserve nothing from this season. Coventry showed us up like most clubs have this season. I feel well bad for them.
Not sure what media you're reading/watching, but all I see is praise for Coventry - with plenty of negativity for Utd. And let's be honest, Utd's performance NEEDS to be spoken about! It was shocking!
The media hate Man Utd doing well and reaching the final
Ofc it's embarrassing. We were 3-0 up 😂
Why do people only blame ETH??? What about the players? The shift they put in. The PLAYERS are an embarresment.
Well said ally my thoughts exactly, Coventry are an excellent championship team .I'm villa but was well impressed with them.utv
There was a small part of me that was gutted their 4th was offside as I would of hope ETH would of been sacked in the morning! But alot of those players should be embarrassed, that win wasn't worth celebrating
Sorry to say but you’re no United fan if you’d wish the team lost so the manager gets sacked.
Take your agenda to the Coventry fan channel
@@Mr-Unexceptional don't wish for them to loose but I do want the manager out yes!
@@stefanfrancis2040 if we are leading 3-0, and you decide to bring off 2 teenagers and bring on 2 internationals in Eriksen and Antony and they capitulate, that’s on the players. Ten hag treading a fine line and is no way faultless but the players and the culture is ruining United.
Definitely not a man u fan
Get rid of players like Rashford, Antony, Awb, Shaw, Lindelof, Casamiro and get some fit players with personalities. They also need a new captain.
Being a coventry fan right now is a nice feeling and stop disrespecting us. We really didn't expect to win, i think we were all happy to not roll over and get beat 4 or 5. We were in danger of doing that but in our hearts we knew they would give it all at least. For one moment, i was having my best life at 4-3. forget where the two clubs are in leagues, its two teams trying to win. TBF, a team of 11 will always win more than 11 individuals.
One United player probably cost more than the Coventry first eleven. And they matched them for 120 minutes.
EtH is not elite, tactics and gravitas are not at the level required, however, there is an overdue mass clearance of this squad….just keep Mainoo Mount Hojlund Garnacho Martinez and bin the rest!
Then you don't have a club. I love how people think that they can offload other players without any problems. So, that won't happen
And bring back Greenwood
@@joekavanagh7171 no chance
I don’t blame the manager, he subbed kids for internationals and he’s being blamed
The manager is atrocious. He hasn’t got a clue. His inept management and tactics are the reason we were so bad. Yesterday wasn’t a one-off… we are constantly outplayed and we get overrun in midfield every single game
Because he is unable to put a side together that play as a team, every single aspect that makes a quality team is missing ... that is down to him and his coaching staff and not to see that is bordering on delusional !
He's abysmal.
@@Draper99 when United was leading did he have a clue?
If you can't take off Mainoo and Garnacho when 3 - 1 up against Coventry then the problems really do run deep
united should give this win back to Coventry cant believe they were celebrating after
Just makes me want ETH to stay in post for years to come....Eric's at the wheel lads....
I think the broadcasters are being very harsh. We should give Manchester United a lot of credit. They did, after all, make Coventry City look like Real Madrid at times and that is some achievement.
United were very lucky yesterday this is one of the worst United teams i have ever seen. United need to say there prayers take some vitamins because Manchester City are going to open up a can of whoop a.. lol
You can blame the manager all day long, but in the end, he is not the one playing. This group of overpaid players should be embarrassed.
Boy oh boy, always a field day for the British media after a Man Utd game ~ the media just loves it when Man U plays on a pitch of banana peel 👍🏽🤣👍🏽🤣👍🏽🤣
They needed the Manchester final can’t have lil Coventry in the final oh nooo
did you not think coventry got a very soft penalty to take it into extra time?
Should be called "the players should be embarrassed". ETH IN,PLAYERS OUT
What? Eth in? Hahaha
Who picks the team? The tactics? Motivates them? Picks the substitutes? He's responsible for this mess too.
Hahahaha, he took Garnacho off, and kept Forrest Gump on! Hahahahaha
@@richardjones8699 he got the tactics right, it was 3-0 and they hadn't had a shot. Garnacho has played a ridiculous amount of football and Mainoo has a horrible injury start of the season. You should be able to bring them off at 3-0 with 20 minutes to go, fo players who've played Champions League football. This team has thrown away this lead and 2 leads at 96 minutes over the last month. If that doesn't show you how weak they are mentally, nothing will
@@polaris7122 because Garnacho has played a ridiculous amount of football and it was 3-0. You should be able to make changes at 3-0
4:04 for the 1st time I agree as a fan because watching the game I said we deserve to lose…I wanted Coventry to beat us in the penalties sadly
Hojlund is terrible, anyone who is fit can run about
What about all the other Premier League teams that didnt make it as far as Coventry? Give them some stick as well if you think ManUTD is embarrasing..
The embarrassing part was throwing a 3-0 lead away with 20 mins to go against a team that is 8th in the championship
The manager was not on the pitch; the players were.
First and foremost, we saw them play, the players, the players should be embarrassed but they never held accountable, it’s always the managers.
Why is the leadership in Manchester still sticking with Ten Hag? So much money spent for so little success in the last few years.
I think they want to see the season out to have more of a reason to get rid! I'd be happy of he went today and let someone else have the final as he doesn't deserve it
Last year*
The leadership are as useless as Ten Hag...
All that money spent and the club start 4 academy players, have 5 academy players on the bench plus a free transfer.
Gross mis management of the club funds for decades and a woeful medical department is coming to the fore. Man United have had 60 injuries this season 😂
What money spent? You do realise he doesn't set transfer budgets, negotiate transfer fees and wage deals, right? And that the vast majority of the squad are free transfers, loans and academy graduates that cost the Glazers £0...
The substitutions should not matter against Coventry. United are supposed to be a vastly superior team. How cans fans blame the substitutions. 😂
It was not as much embarrassing for ETH as it was for the players. The game plan worked until minute 68. When you are 3-0 up, he should be able to throw in the youngsters without fearing of a 3 goal come back. The players just stopped giving it all. You can debate his subsitutions for not taking Rashford off, but with the injury list we have I get it that they take of Garnacho and Mainoo. Why risking injuries to them when you are 2 nil up. Just the quality of our bench is not top team worthy.
For both. He has to take his share of the blame for this mess.
That's why you have a manager, to prevent this happening. Ten hag failed again as he has always done this season. Especially in the CLs to control games after taking the advantage
Its players not the manager and sorry fans who want us to lose are a disgrace
It was very embarrassing after the game I wondered who the championship club was.i wonder how many man c are gonna score in the final
It’s disgusting being a United fan and the manager calling that performance an achievement! 😡
Robins dropped the ball imo if he had gone in with his usual mentality instead of playing like we were a goal up with a man down in the first 45 we would of turned them inside out.
Coventry were very unfortunate
I wanted Coventry to win, because it would have meant so much more to them. Like when Wigan beat City in the final, meant so much more to them.
ETH does look ridiculous whatever he wears whether its a cardigan or one of his clown suits 🤡
EtH can't be honest. Deluded denial. Is he saying the fans & spectators eyes deceive them? For any team to throw away a 3-0 lead with 20 mins to go is the pinnacle of 'embarrassing' and were actually saved from an even bigger embarrassment. Coventry were excellent and deserve all the plaudits but it's fair to call United embarrassing.
Crooky summed it up perfectly. Nothing more to add to that really. Apart from it is going to cost a hell of a lot of money and time to rebuild Manchester United.
I'm not sure about Ten Hag's position, but I'm damn pretty sure about these players that we've got. These current squad is gonna destroy any manager. It's a hopeless team at the moment.
We lost it to a championship team, we lost to Bournemouth to a team always up and down from relegation, these teams are embarrassing for ten hag and his style of play! It’s doomed till
He’s gone
"Style of play" cliche. No manager could create a style with this mess of a squad that the Glazers forced onto him
Ffs big deflected goal ,dodgy pen ,get a grip
Utd had a deflected goal as well. Pay attention.
Nothing counts until Hag is given a new contract 😂
Roy Keane should know better!! This was a great FA Cup tie. The cup has always provided drama and shown that the smaller teams can compete and often beat the teams from a higher division! Why not focus on Coventry’s wonderful come back , and United holding their nerve to win the penalty shootout! Great game all round.
As a United Fan totally embarrassed but nothing new been happening for years . .
He shouldn't bt the players should! 2 FA CUP Finals in 2 season, wheres the embarrassment?!!! However, for these player not to be able to see out a 3-0 lead from the 60/70th minute is criminal!!! Making a couple Subs where you bring on starting internationals to see out a game and they bottle it is clearly on THE PLAYERS!!! WHO ELSE IS ON THE BENCH!? Is ETH meant to play for them or the the 12th man!? WTF GET REAL!!!
Some fans have no perception of man management. If you’re 3-0 up and one of those two players get hurt, the same people would be criticizing ETH. A game is considered won at 3-0. It’s on the 11 on the pitch to defend. Look no further than the leadership….lack of leadership on the pitch. I’m also ETH Out, but yesterday was not on him.
So is it embarrassing that every other team outside of Manchester is not! In the final
Super Ally and Big Jeff! Could listen to them all day.
Ten Haag in forever pls haha
Yesterday many United fans fell out of love with United, just by a bit.
A Tactical master class from Ten Haag. Utd are back!!!
Ten Hag is unbearable... worse than Moyes and Ole for sure.
I dont get this people. Why wouldn't a manager sub off their youth players when you are 3-0 up to a championship club? Its bloody 3 goals lead. All managers would do the same and put on experience players.
rashford is hopeless his head dropped when coventry scored and was looking for any excuse to get off the pitch but will still be picked for euros embarrassing
Why can't we instead focus on Coventry? They deserve to be mentioned at least...
How can anyone complain about Maino and Garnacho being taken off at 3 nil up against a championship side? They were replaced by two international players with 20 mins left!
That's isn't bad decision-making by ETH it makes sense. People need to have a look at themselves. The issue is how bad Rashford was why didn't those fresh-legged subs influence the game.
The only issue I've got is and no one is mentioning. Ten Hag saying it's a huge achievement and a good performance. That proves he's in cuckoo land. It's all good to say we got lucky today and we will perform better in the final but this guy can't admit that. Yesterday's game was not ten hags fault but when he comes out defending the shambles that that second half was. He needs to go
He is the final act playing out of project rashford fc. He must be obliged to play him in his contract. Why else would he get so many minutes
Ferguson goes mental for a terrible performance and winning the cup, Ten Haag praises the team for a 3-3 draw to Coventry. Madness
When you think they cant be more of a laughing stock from the last debacle. They are the gift that keeps giving.
It's a disgrace man utd people on here claiming to be utd fans but wanting Coventry to win NO YOU ARE NOT A TRUE UNITED FAN
Top manager. Extend his contract by 10 years.
😂🤣
Was Jeff moaning this much about the Garnacho offside v Arsenal? Also anything mentioned about a penalty that never was to take it to extra time!!
You can imagine him saying to his players that it was an achievement rather than telling them it was an embarrassing performance
Good, there's a final to play for
VAR robbed Coventry the achievements were it came to united's rescue yet again.
Same old outcome like against Bournemouth .
Y are they not talking about the peno they got yesterday, and I think it was a peno, but man city one was worse, and Chelsea didn't get it
If Rashford goes to the Euros it will be piss poor from England and Southgate. Probably will happen though 😔
I find it mad how the manager gets the blame for this. The players have no spine, but it's the managers fault? If you can rest players at 3-0, for 20 minutes, there's a serious, serious problem with the playing squad. ETH isn't perfect, but the players have done this constantly and he'd get hammered if he said it was embarrassing
He makes the changes to a team winning and then tries to defend the closing minutes every week. We concede goals, lose points/matches and don’t learn.
You clearly don’t understand football
@@Draper99 I don't understand football? Enlighten me bud
@@fd6661mate, he brought on 2 full internationals for 2 19 years olds and we fell apart. That's a big problem when your experienced players are so weak. Hadn't Eriksen played in the Semi's of the Euros? Tbh, you just have to look at last week, he said Garnacho had been ill and the right side wasn't working and got hammered. What do you think the headlines would have been if he'd have said that was embarrassing from the players? I'm not even backing him, I think he'll probably be sacked, but the players get away with murder and did so with Ole too
@@ste4392
Read a book, ask a friend, eat more oily fish… whatever you want mate. I have no interest in wasting my time explaining why Ten Hag is a poor manager to you
Yes, that was embarrassing. We can't keep him as our manager. He's made poor signings.
Championship has NO VAR. THANK GOD.
I have supported United for over 50 years and yesterday was the 17th time I’ve seen them reach the FA cup final. The rest I celebrated and was really happy with. This one there was no celebration and it felt a bit rubbish. It is a bit embarrassing to be in the final and City will make it worse in the final.
wan bissaka is the king of giving penalties away.......guy cannot learn from his mistakes
Why should he be embarrassed, it's a usual routine for him. It's not the first time happen. If he stay back next season more of this will occur.
Ten Hag was being sly. He said getting to the final isn’t embarrassing. He KNOWS that capitulating like that after being 3-0 and his subs destroying United’s control of the game, was embarrassing.
He made the worst mistake by taking off Mainoo and garnacho?😅 his team is 3-0 up 20 mins to go what’s wrong with resting his best players especially with all the injuries he’s got right now . That’s the players fault not wrapping up the game I mean was he really gona bring on the academy players instead of the senior ones? He really didn’t have much options and I’m sure he didn’t think they would get back level. Everyone just wants to blame the manager every time but players can never be blamed come off it mate
A huge achievement would have been to win by three more goals.
Why is rashford being selected, he has no form, and the manager keeps selecting him,he is not making any tactical sense
Keep moving on Ten Hag, that happens in football. No need to be embarrassing
3 finals in 2 years and he just gets hammered! 😂
I don’t care wether Man Utd sack him or not, but he gets judged extremely harshly imo
No style of play. Abysmal in game tactics. Often bizarre substitions. Some dreadful signings. He's responsible for this mess too. We're a million miles off winning anything meaningful. The finals are just riding luck and papering over the cracks.
3-0 up and cruising, 3-1 and fallen off the lilo, 3-2 and treading water, 3-3 and drowning, 3-4 and dying, back to 3-3 with the kiss of life. Then pens and rescued. United are a mess but how many more coaches getting binned by the players? Too many not good enough. As for ETH he may not be the man to take United forward, but still waiting to hear SlothGATE for Liverpool. C’mon MSM, that means you, Talk Sport and Danny Boy when are you/they going to push for the great leader to fill the vacancy.
@@lawmantheonetrueking3739 They were talking about Emery yesterday. I'd take him right now if he could be prized away from Villa
Shouldn’t be in this final
They're terrible though. They're like West Ham+ lol.
"fans" saying that ETH is at fault because he took off Mainoo and Garnacho... He replaced them with seasoned International players. In what way is that ETH's fault? It's mentality, 1/10 mentality from the players on the pitch. Wouldn't trust them to control an RC car, never mind control a weaker opposing team. Stop trying to put all on ETH. Yes he's made mistakes throughout the season, but he is not to blame for the inconsistency, the players are the issue.
Y’all can blame Ten Hag all y’all want. What about the players who always disappoint?
We wont beat city in the final.
The offside rule needs changing , you shouldn't be inches offside, and also the handball rule is a shambles.
Ellis simms, 8m from Everton, looked better than most of evertons players, ran rings round that united defence. You have to ask whos running everton 😂
There’s nothing special about Simms. Everyone runs rings around United!
@@Draper99 This might be true. But hes still better than what they have if NO calvert lewin and mans made of paper
Who cares about the quality of the opponent. It’s embarrassing to lose a 3-0 lead regardless of the competition
I think both fans went home disappointed
Man Utd stopped playing
Idiotic to blame it on taking Kobbie and Garnacho off. 3-0 up with 20 to go any players deemed good enough to play for this club and be on that bench no matter the age should be able to see it out !!!! He brought on internationals .
He took Garnacho off and kept Forrest Gump on, FFS!
@@polaris7122 irrelevant who he took off.
At 3-0 with 70 mins gone in full control it should be game over and rest players . Especially our best performers considering our injury situation.
The united players don't know how to win the damn ball back and also how to deal with teams that press. If Coventry pressed Utd from the off, then they wouldn't have gone into halftime 2-0 down.
We played better under ole
And most of the same players ended up getting him sacked too, this is the problem with United most of these players just turn it in or off when they feel like it. Maguire, Lindelof, Wan Bissaka McTominay, Bruno, Rashford these players have let us down time and time again over the last few years and they are going to do it again. Most players in this club have outlasted 3 managers with different ideologies, some even 4 or 5 that’s a fundamental problem within the club
Regardless of who is manager Man Utd have serious problems and changing the manager wont do anything to stop the rot. Part of the problem is probably all the talk of ETH getting sacked every week making it very hard for the guy to assert any sort of authority in the team. Either they need to replace him with someone that can get the team under control or else they need to back him and allow him to get rid of the players causing the problems
It was an embarrassment, but that is not a disrespect towards Coventry. It’s the manner is which we won that was embarrassing. I wish Erik atleast had the balls to admit it. Ten Hag OUT!!
As a neutral please keep Ten Hag as this is endless entertainment. A has been giant club being run incompetently with league 1 players! I wouldn't be playing Anthony for Carlisle United!
Hated adored never ignored 🔥🔥🔥
Don't kid yourself
Na we just love watching u fail after years of kind decisions by referees and media bias. You’re gonna get slapped by City in the final 💯
My wife ran off with the milkman yesterday and I blame the glazers 😂
Just hated
@@86Brasco 100 per cent.. A horrible horrible club with horrible horrible fans and are now getting their just deserts!!
ETH must stay for another 5 years to fix United
Utd hit a new low yesterday with that performance. Give city the FA cup now. Well done coventry, unbelievable effort and they deserved to win. Forest were robbed and they should sue.
Although he said he’s not embarrassed it’s an achievement, ETH is definitely embarrassed by this. Who wouldn’t be? United have conceded something like 7 or 8
90+mins goals this season which is absolutely disgraceful. It might not (all) be ETH fault with the fickle shameless players that are at the club, but it is 100% his responsibility.
Regarding antony cupping his ears. Perhaps somebody should ask them why he did it. Perhaps he was getting dog's abuse from the Coventry fans or players. Lots of players take these little petty revenges.
How can you make billionaires almost suffer a heart attack watching you manage their business and they keep you? 😂
ETH delusion is on another level, and that's the main reason why the team will NEVER move forward with him.
When Man U win at the last moment, it's embarrassing. When Leverkusen do the same, it's glorious.
Because they didn’t deserve it. Conventry should have won 4-3. Leverkusan are unbeaten on merit
@@jackninetynine5036 They were the better team for nearly the entire game. An outrageous deflection and a penalty that never was allowed it to be a draw right at the end of the game. Before that Coventry did nothing. So on the balance of the game United should gave won, but people only remember that last few minutes
@@lozcontreras a club that spent 1 billion looked better than a championship team, give yourself a pat on the back what an achievement 😂are deflected goals not allowed? I must have missed that especially seen as uniteds 3rd goal was deflected 💀 they got back in the game fair & square & were robbed of a goal where their attacker was level