@@ssroudyss9432 It's just morals and respect I don't think you'd like it if your dead body was used for views and then was laughed at by a group of people.
That's how I see it. Almost like OH YOU CAN DO IT BUT I CANT. how many people would do the exact same thing Logan did but because there not famous they won't get the same attention. So they start being the finger pointers. But they are the real scums
@@nunyabizwacks6711 Well 1srt because just thinking about it while you're alive you obviously would find that disrespectful and 2nd we have no idea what happens after death so for all we know the dead guy could be pissed lmao.
To the people defending Logan, remember this. That poor guy was at the lowest point of his life, so terrible that he decided taking his own life was better than living. Do you really think he wanted his lowest and darkest moment shown to millions of people? He deserves better than some little heartless pricks laughing and filming him.
He didnt,but he's dead, he didn't care,Noone knows who it is,his family wudnt know, so 🤷 boo hoo,it wasn't planned,I wud of uploaded a video too,maybe wudnt make a click bait out of it,cuz that's what I didn't like,but shit happens,move on,also they weren't laughing cuz it was funny,some people laugh as reaction to shocking shit happening
@@Uncannykenny move on??? You're replying 4 years later 🤣. Naw, he's still a dirtball for wanting to profit and gain internet clout from the encounter. He apologized with crocodile tears to save his own ass from getting deplatformed. Stop hopping on Logan's 🐔 by making excuses for him and get your head straight Frankie 😴 reading that almost gave me an aneurysm. Also he crypto scamming now, geez who would've thought the guy who didn't respect corpses... would respect people 🤯
Joe he was exploiting a suicide victim in a country that takes its privacy INSANELY seriously, not considering the family or the victim at all. Thats why people are upset.
I love the outrage that's carried over from logan paul to rogan here lmfao, no one seems to get that he's only commenting on the bandwagon hate train because he hasn't seen the video??
I think most people got to outraged for this topic. Made it seem to black and white while Joe Rogan lives in the grey. A true lion amongst sheep (not saying that the outraged are sheep, just saying that Rogan is not).
He brought attention to an extremely bad situation in Japan - no different than showing the dead 3-year-old beach boy over and over for political gain.
Who is talking about the media or the news? We are talking about Logan Paul being a complete utter idiot whose moral compass is so twisted he can't see where to draw the fucking line on how far he should go to get more views on his vlog.
Yeah because you are telepathic and know that he was absolutely 100% trying to look for a dead body rather than just make a "spooky" video. Because, you know, there is no possible way that Logan tried to do something else than the absolute worst thing you can imagine. Makes sense.
Dude, Logan Paul literally thought his vlog was dope as fuck prior to all the backlash, he thought IVE DONE SOMETHING NOBODY ELSE HAS EVER DONE, but really we were all watching thinking what kind of cretinous people actually film and upload this shit? Does it matter if he didn't think he was gonna find a body? His reaction to doing so clearly shows he was hoping he would, which is seriously, seriously fucked up.
The Bear that wrestled Khabib His reaction didn't show that he wanted to find a dead body, judging from your comment you probably already weren't a fan of Logan and are just trying to make him out as bad as possible. He was joking around to make the situation more manageable since he literally just found a dead body. I don't think he should of posted the video but don't publish your cynical opinions of the guy as facts because you don't like the guy.
Donald COWBOY Cerrone but you're talking all loud and bad on the internet. SMH. I bet you get bet up a lot. I'm sorry you got picked on as a kid. It would be horrible if you ever want on a trip to this Forrest.
damn. JR really dropped the ball on this one. i understand seeing a controversy from all angles, but there's only one right side here, and it's clear to most of us, and should certainly be clear to someone of JR's age and experience.
It isnt clear. You say they were laughing and joking to attempt to be malicious or because they have no regard for that persons life. I say you don't fucking know how you're going to react if shit like that goes down in front of you. Let me be clear, I am not defending him. He is dead wrong for uploading this video and teasing it before uploading it. Regardless of his intentions. Having said that im not gonna crucify the dude because him and his friends had a real reaction to something horrible.
Then you don't understand what he was saying at all, he literally says "I'm not defending him and it's not something you should do." what he said was its weird how we can joke about death unless we are standing next to the person. And he said he doesn't understand that about why we think that way.
not even mentioning the massive disrespect to Japan and its people's culture. his previous vlogs in the country have been ultimately more disrespectful than even Jackass: the movie when they went and did a couple of silly, stupid sketches in japan.
That's why most people watch him. The fact that he can look at things from all angles rather than just do what everyone else is doing is why he has amassed such a wide and diverse fanbase. He doesn't follow the crowd but instead examines the situation to come out with his own opinions. Also, he's funny.
2% of people are going hard-left, 2% of people are going hard-right. The rest of us are becoming victims of these stupid marginal groups of trolls. Oh, good grief! The Internet is bad.
Josh Josh it's a fine line between "looking at things from all angles" and just being contrarian. Joe Rogan types tend to be the latter. I'm not trying to start an argument but "American Libertarian" dudes thrive on being contrarian and playing devil's advocate because it makes them feel superior. You know I do think it is important to consider different points of view and opinions and not believe everything that you're told, but sometimes even the "mainstream crowd" gets it right. Basic human decency is more important than being a badass maverick or whatever
And still realizes everybody is probably overreacting. If you watched the video honestly oh know Bryan, like a lot of people, are adding shit that didn’t happen. They don’t laugh at his blue hands they were mentioning them while trying to see if he was alive. They didn’t laugh or make jokes about the dead body they were mortified, looked into the camera and said sucide is not a joke. He also put disclaimers and and intro and depression and sucide with the sucide hotline number. Also he didn’t monitize the video and made it clear. So really Bryan has never seen the video or is dishonest which is the case with you too probably
I mean Redban was the one who brought it up without watching it in the first place, and Brian's explanation of it was worse than what actually happened.
Why are you disappointed in how he views things? Can you not form YOUR own opinion? Do you need joes help and guidance? Were you hoping for him to be outraged just the same as the rest of the world? He's reacting to the CONTROVERSY over logan paul, not logan pauls video itself. How could he give an opinion when he's never seen the video?
I just clearly stated that I was disappointed in his response.... you jumped up to conclusions as to WHY I'm disappointed... so calm down for a minute... are you done..? Do you feel better now...? The reason as to why I'm disappointed is because he just didn't say much at all to be honest... He didn't see the video at all and doesn't seem to even know much about the whole Logan Paul thing anyways (which is FIIINE, before you get allll up in arms about that...) He just usually has some deep shit to talk about regardless on WHAT his opinion is... it was more like an "Oh I don't know who this is, some UA-cam kid" didn't really seem to give two shits on the subject anyways. Again, which is fiiiiiine! He couldn't really give us an opinion... I just expected some more deeper shit as per usual... So you can just relaaaaax on your all caps-ness and take a breath.
you gotta understand where he's coming from though, I think hes talking the social aspect of all this, everyones fucking up in arms? He's like eh, he did something shitty, everyone does, everyday, so why is this guy getting fucking murdered all over social media/the news? Or atleast that's what I'm thinking hes thinking, cause I'm thinking that lol
You just dont upload footage of dead people without their families consent. Especially if its someone from a different culture where privacy is very important, and even more when the person you find killed himself. A really sad and dishonorable thing to try and capitalize for views (or ANY other type of attention). There's no excuse for what the man did, it was wrong.
I'm Demise it's not about we all gonna day. The guy killed himself. Do you know the state he was at to do that and on top of that a guy comes a film your dead body and make jokes around you. C'mon dude is not humain thing to do.
Thats not the problem here. Were specifically talking about someone who killed himself laying around in an area which is famous for people killing themself in it. I think it's wrong to enter such an area just for attention and views. I wouldn't mind if he went in there but excluded the footage of the dead guy, explaining in the vid he did find one but out of respect for the family turned off the camera and went home. And even if you do upload the picture, at least be respectful instead of thinking about a fucking thumbnail with it...... Its more a "why do this thing?" kinda upset, not a "oh dead people are gross and scary" kinda upset. The fact so many people just dont get that shows a lot havent watched the footage OR have a very low emotional intelligence.
He says in beginning of video he’s not monetizing it for obvious reasons I don’t see the issue other than he has a young audience , but that aside he’s basically a journalist reporting on what he sees
you just don''t get it, they showed a dead body of a guy who hung himself, IN japan's suicide forest, a place that is to be RESPECTED, according to the Japanese, and disrespected japans culture, they LAUGHED at the dead body made jokes, and made humor, which is DISRESPECTFUL, He was very disrespectful towards the man who told him he should not be in that area. IT IS A CLEAR EXPLOITATION OF A VERY VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. Regardless of whether or not your offended by the images , they VIOLATE youtubes guide lines, plus pual logan showed blatant disrespect for the dead. you are obviously OK with laughing at a suicide victims body , in a place who's culture dictates that area and it's victims are to be respected, every one on youtube MUST respect and obey the youtube guide lines whether or not youtube/google gives them rule exemptions and celebrity immunity. IF i had posted a video like that , that video would be taken down and my channel would be suspended, but NOT youtube celebrity paul logen, he can be as disrespectful as he likes because he's corporate sponsored youtube celebrity paul logan.
Joe’s not getting it. I honestly couldn’t see anything wrong it till I imagined one of my brothers hanging from that tree. And for some self absorbed UA-camr like Logan Paul to find him and post a UA-cam video of himself randomly laughing while looking at my dead brother and saying, “this is the craziest thing *I’ve* ever seen! Wow *I* can’t unsee this! This is by far the craziest and most surreal vlog *I’ve* ever made.” *Me me me* Man, get over yourself. My brother’s literally hanging from a tree and all you can say is “wow, this is the craziest video I’ve ever made for my UA-cam channel”? Thats the issue.
From that p.o.v. if a crazy killer was hunting you down, are you going to be thinking about his family? About the abuse he may or may not have had in his life that made him this way to hunt you down? Or are you going to say to yourself, this is fucked. Im fucked. This is the craziest moment of my life. If i survive this..blah blah..the problem is you put yourself not in logan pauls shoes, but on the opposite end that gives you a biased sensitive viewpoint. In pauls shoes, its a crazy thing to witness, and if you watched his vlog he preached soo many times in that video about how suicide isnt the answer, how its not funny, he hit some real points. It wasnt a mockery of a dead guy hanging like how people are playing it out to be.
Mickey Jewnyear A youtuber posting a video and an interaction with a potential murderer are clearly two totally separate issues. Yes, you’re still allowed to feel sympathy for the a killer’s life but that’s not incredibly useful when someone sincerely threatens your well-being. If someone is displaying clear intent to fatally harm me, It’s best if I ignore any peripheral details surrounding me, including those that may have lead this person to attack, and focus on how I can preserve my life in the moment of chaos. And that’s not cruelty or a lack of empathy, that’s wisdom. In the case with Logan Paul, he clearly uploaded the video for views (as he does with all videos.) There’s nothing wrong with desiring a strong following and viewership but that doesn’t exempt you from moral etiquette. The big picture here is that the suicide of someone’s child, friend, brother, etc. is a tragedy that should be treated with the victims loved ones most at mind. They get the say in wether or not you can use the footage of their child, loved one, etc. not you. That’s just a matter of respect. You don’t get Carte Blanche with something like that without paying the price for it. And there’s been enough said about this in the media and elsewhere to show that there is a price to be paid for disregarding the respect of the family (I don’t think Logan intentionally disregarded the family, but you don’t have to be aware of a wrongdoing for it to be wrong.) If someone can’t se how it’s disrespectful to the family then we’re reaching a point called “wit’s end.” If you don’t understand how posting a video of someone’s dead child on UA-cam could be considered insensitive, then I’m not sure how I can explain it. I’m at my wit’s end. As for Logan’s side: I totally understand, I would’ve been at a loss of words and probably would’ve said around the same things he said. I also may have made some unbecoming jokes in the moment because I, too, tend to combat “real” moments with shots of humor. That being said, I MOST DEFINITELY WOULD NOT HAVE POSTED IT. The respect for the family and friends to the privacy of their tragedy should always take precedent over any benefit I may gain from exploiting it. It’s like itching to tell a good joke at a funeral when everyone else is tearful and mourning. Yes, the joke may be great, but there’s a time and a place for everything and it’s demonstrably disrespectful to ignore the sorrow of those mourning in favor of a good laugh. Even though the video was replete with warnings against suicide and the severity of it, I think wisdom would tell you that no measure of reassurance of the gravity of suicide gives you warrant to exploit the tragedy of someone. I didn’t see Logan do anything overboard-insensitive in the video, but I certainl would not have posted it.
You’re a complete moron. He’s figuring out as he goes along. People like you are all the world’s problem capsuled in a human body, no respect for slow careful thinking.
@gee dee If he didn't have the full context you cannot blame him for not getting the point. I'm sure if he saw the video and was provided with information surrounding it, his opinion wouldn't be the same. He is just giving his opinion on the limited info he had.
Are dead bodies disgusting and the people who fuck around with dead bodies disgusting? What a progressive idea that’s never existed since the Middle Ages.
Gallows humor is a thing, it’s a coping mechanism. Nervous laughing is one thing, making jokes is one thing, but the thing that bothered me about the Logan Paul thing was how obviously giddy and pumped he was(and the girl, too) about finding a body. They couldn’t hide their excitement.
Joe is off his rocker sometimes, finding a way to justify this. Even Redban is taking this serious and it’s Redban who takes nothing serious. I’m convinced the isolation tank and all the steroids to Joes head made him emotionless.
I like Joe, but he was being a hypocrite. When Chester Bennington died he didn’t want Eddie bravo to talk about it “out of respect” yet joe acts like everyone is crazy when Jake Paul films a dead guy.
.... he sais it's weird that we.... key word... we... have outrage about stuff like that. He was questioning himself too. He often asks questions like that... so how is that hypocritical?
In Logan's "apology" he said "I didn't do this for views. I GET VIEWS". That alone is a red flag. He definitely did it for views. I get the thought process, that it's the BIG THING that'll be"original". But even in the apology, he had to mention his view count, which also included a peace emoji (as a 'peace out') and a hashtag that promoted himself. Didn't hashtag a suicide prevention reference or anything. His apology was damage control, and nothing else.
I’m no bleeding-heart snowflake, and I’m definitely a champion of free speech, but what this kid did is reprehensible. Next time, do research (actually watch the video in question) before opining on a topic. Otherwise, you’re bound to look like an apathetic fool.
_"I’m no bleeding-heart snowflake, and I’m definitely a champion of free speech..."_ Fuck me, call yourself what you may but this is some white knighting right here
Teeb Seeb I was addressing HIS FANS you MORONS. I’m neither democrat nor republican, I think they’re BOTH bought by the system and I don’t even vote. So go bark off elsewhere.
im neither...i just think its hilarious that the reactionaries are as ridiculous as the SJWs...like you literally think you're some knight or soldier in some front line...it's the fucking internet..you live in your mom's basement..you and the SJWs are the fucking same...it's so fucking sad.
He does seem spacey as fuck lately. Not because he's wearing a 8-year-old's halloween costume, but because he can barely turn a thought into an intelligent sentence anymore.
Joe, you thought it was so disrespectful to even talk about Chris and Chesters death with Eddie Bravo. What if the persons that found their bodies took a video of it, laughed and posted it on youtube for clicks. I'm sure that would have been disgusting to you and should be. But that guy in Japan was a real person too Joe. Man I love you and agree with most of your opinions but not this time at all. Don't start to sink to that level.
Joe doesnt have to have the time to give a fuck about what an immature little fuck does. seriously, why do you care so much? does your life suck that bad?
GUCCI GANG - If he doesn't care then why are here to defend Joe? Why are you so triggered by this guy's opinion of Rogan? Does your life really suck that bad you had to defend someone you don't even know or care about? LMAO! See what I did there?
For those who feel rubbed the wrong way by Joe's words, I believe he was trying to grapple with how human beings receive this kind of content on a more abstract level than is usual. There are a range of reactions to content like this and I think he was trying to see things from different, albeit less sympathetic, perspectives - even emotionally disassociated ones. I'm not disappointed by Joe's words and I don't think he was too high. I think he has a very popular show and people sometimes take his casual thoughts while he's feeling around an issue as his conclusive stance on it. Let's not jump on people for saying things that deviate from our own thinking. Let's try to step into their situation and ask ourselves, beyond our first reaction, why someone might be saying what they are. We can always come back to our emotions after stretching our empathy. Cheers :)
not to mention he was obviously stoned. Let's be honest, how coherent and reasonable are YOU when under the influence? Joe couldn't focus on the subject with any grounding seriousness, that's why he said the things he said. Even stuff like "I'm just exploring the possibilities" is obvious stoner talk. I mean, if a full on scale tragedy happened and you were dozed the fuck out of your mind, there's no way you'd be able to comprehend the situation fully and/or feel sad about it. Same thing here.
While I don't agree with Joe here, I don't think he's fully aware of how Logan is and how delusionally obnoxious he is. I think if Joe had seen his videos before and knew who and how he was, he would feel the way we all feel. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
I wasn't offended by it. I was just annoyed with how incredibly tactless he was being. Every shot in that forrest had to be set up. He had to tell the person with the camera "Ok shit theres a dead guy over there. Film me walking up like I just saw it and let me react to it like it's a real reaction, and then we'll take the camera over and film it." So not only was the stuff he filmed tasteless, but the process behind planning it was even more so. But even if we were to focus on what was shot, there are so many kids now, in an already decently emotionally inept and tactless generation, that are going to watch this and think this is totally ok. I hate to sound like an old fart, but this is not how an adult should act, and the young people who have yet to reach that point in their lives now think that it is. So that's my biggest problem. Of course I expected this shit from him. He's annoyed the bejesus out of me ever since he became vine famous. But the fact that this is how he acts on such a large stage is what bothers me.
Joe is one of these Free Speech Warriors where he thinks no one should ever be held accountable or criticized for anything they say and no one should be offended. Its free speech taken to a psychotic degree.
Sean Green uhhhh, Joe criticizes things all the time. And this is more about actions made concerning a dead body, not really about what was said. WTF video did you watch?
But isn't this logan kids fan base 90% children? He knows that.. Obvious click bait attempt. Of course a child would click on that video and they don't need to see that kind of material. It's fucked up man.
Unfortunately Joe is so eager to jump on the anti-political correctness bandwagon that he ends up occasionally making excuses for people who actually deserve to be criticized. A lot of the time he's right: these lynchmobs that spring up when somebody says something politically incorrect are a problem. But it's hardly surprising this douchebag got criticized for what he did. He went out of his way to find a guy who'd committed suicide and showed it in a UA-cam video just to get clicks, in the process disrespecting the victim and plastering somebody's relative's face all over the internet. It's beyond despicable to put somebody's family through that just to get a few clicks on UA-cam. This isn't about political correctness this time, it's just about having basic decency. That little shit has none and he deserves all the hate he's getting.
Joe literally said he had no idea who Logan Paul was, and that he was not making excuses for him. Its crazy how people will hear what they wanna hear regardless of how many times you repeat the same shit over.
Jamie is SO off. There was no photo posing with the man. So many people have done ghost hunting videos and never came across a body. Logan did. Nobody knows how they’d react in that situation. He seemed nervous and unsure if it was real and some people laugh nervously but he didn’t make fun of the guy and show his blue hands and all that. I watched it all when it first came out and many other documentaries about the suicide forest.
The thumbnail was literally Logan with a shocked pikachu face and the dude hanging in the background. And yeah. Maybe nobody came across a body and Logan did. The problem is Logan INCLUDED it, while giggling. Yeah, people will sometimes laugh out of nervousness with the uncomfortable nature of a situation. What people don’t do is make a video with a hype intro, have a good time in the first half, walk into a forest known for suicides, find a dead body, laugh, and PUBLISH that video online and monetize it. This weird defense of Logan that still exists for that video is unreal and disgusting. That dude was and still is a complete garbage human being.
I appreciate that Joe takes a moment and thinks on his own about any issue, before just going along with what the collective opinion is. It's always refreshing to see someone do that. HOWEVER, when 'exploring different perspectives' as he put it, it is also important to gather the essential facts first. Or else, you're not really exploring and discovering, but just walking around groping in the dark. Since he didn't know anything about what the actual problem was, this whole conversation came out a bit... silly. I'm not going to judge his views on this matter based on this clip, but I would be curious to see what he thinks when he DOES know exactly what the issue is.
Joe even said it himself - they are participating in it by just talking about it. As well as you and I by clicking, watching, and commenting on it. Fuck.
I wish I had never heard of this Logan Paul guy. I saw some of his videos and I found him quit annoying and idiotic. I don't even know how he has a fan base.
I love how everyone is apparently missing joe's point he was trying to make about the arbitrariness of being respectful in this specific way for this specific type of death, for suicide victims as opposed to other types of deaths we hear about all the time, and just blasting him for not repeating the same drivel that everyone else is that if they found a body and were in a state of shock they'd be perfectly orderly and considerate about the situation. I think Logan fucked up big time in plenty of ways but his reaction to a shocking event with freaked out laughter is completely normal, do you think soldiers don't make morbid jokes and shit in response to atrocities they see and know are horrible?
Also Logan Paul goes to Japan; into an infamous forrest for its many suicide victims; finds such suicide victim; laughs and makes jokes with his "friends" about it; posing with the dead body; let the video get edited; and then uploads this video on youtube, where first of all his very young fanbase can see it... Sorry but you don't need all the information to see that this is just horribly wrong on so many levels.
So what? Most kids especially in the internet age are exposed to porn, gore, violent shooting games and movies that contain all of those things at once. A hanging body doesn't exactly shock kids anymore.
What makes this outrageous is the fact that he did this in Japan. We cremate our dead in Japan. There are religious and cultural implications that make viewing someone's corpse extremely disrespectful. That's not even considering the difference between a natural death and one of suicide. Our children don't even behave this way in public in Japan. The issue isn't about the public's sensitivities. The issue is the lack of sensitivity in Logan Paul.
Sometimes it's not the "outrage machine". Sometimes someone does something that is just indefensible. I can't tell if Joe is just too high here or if he really is just turning "going against the grain" into his formula now. It's not about seeing something you don't want to see - think about the dude's family who is probably going to see this. And then there's the issue of UA-cam letting the video get to trending even though it violated their terms while they shit on smaller channels for much less.
Not only that but it is partly about "Seeing something you dont want to see" because both the logans audiences are under 15s, they like watching prank videos, they like watching people get hit in the balls with a soccer ball, or hit with a tazer or stuff like that. They thought they were going to get more of that, now these children were exposed to something that no one at that age should have to be exposed to. Not only that, it was handled so poorly by Logan. Kids think its cool because it makes them feel "adult" that they saw something like that, but as someone who is much much older now, I personally realize that you grow up way too fast. Its something that is always told to kids, and they never believe it, you should cherish your youth, and this is just another thing forcing children to have to deal with "facts of life" that they shouldn't have to think about. Now, I dont believe in censorship, I know when i was 14-18 growing up in one of the firstt generations to have access to the internet at home, i did a lot of fucked up shit. I'm not trying to be a hypocrite, if a 15 year old wants to go look at shit like that, fine, if they think they can handle it fine. If their parents arent doing their due diligence fine. But that doesn't mean this kind of stuff, real life death and all the baggage that comes with it should be shoved into their sub box because some fuckface who should know better thought it was cool to video a dead body and post it to youtube.
Joe Rogan is both a burn out pot head and a "going against the grain" person, even if something is purely wrong, Joe will defend it... just as long as he never agrees with the masses. Thats basically his mindset
Don't get me wrong, I used to get a lot out of Joe's podcasts. But he's been going further and further in this direction, which is just plain lazy in my opinion and goes against everything he supposedly stands for. I wouldn't say he's a burnout; he's clearly a successful dude who has made more money than most people in the comments can hope to. This whole clip pissed me off because of his intellectual laziness. He didn't even try to understand the situation and mostly talked over Redban even though he clearly knew more about what was going on.
Nicholas Martin no....just using common sense to realize logan’s intent wasnt bad, but turned out bad, its the truth, and people dont like it, they wanna see someone at a high point with success, fail and drop down to nothing, “hate”
Fakoh his intent wasn't bad? I think you must be lucky to not have seen the other shit he was pulling in Japan to get views. The guy gives zero fucks about people and what stuns me more than the "Logan Paul should die" outrage are the idiots like you that can't see he's Disney channel acting and using a dead body as a prop to gain views. Maybe next time he can fuck off back to the US and crash a funeral, pop open the casket , do some edgy jokes then make a couple of cuts with his "fam" to talk about suicide because "good intent" makes it better right?
Joshua McCoskrie as long as he isnt hurting anyone hes good lol who cares...and how would he use the dead body for views if he demonetized the video....idiot
I'm actually agreeing with you to some point about his intention and hate, but in here the problem is about his behaviour that disrespecting other cultures, especially a really heavy cultured country like japan. The people there are taught to be respectful and considerate to others, then there he comes and just fuck around with everyone, like how he was being loud and obnoxious inside a temple, throwing money in a disrespectful way, playing around with foods on the middle of the street, leaving it on a moving car.
No because you don't film a dead body up close, cracking inappropriate immature jokes, using the body for views, exploiting the suicide of a person from a culture KNOWN for privacy around all things including suicide (hence the Forrest) AND also having an audience of kids and brain dead cretins. You seem to of missed many points here. It's not just the age of his audience who worship the ground this sociopath walks on. It's so many aspects that a shockingly large number of people seem to have missed, don't know or simply don't care about.
+booty2k he's not a journalist FFS doing war corresponding and he is not a documentary maker.........he is a basic bitch vine douche who vlogs to kids and morons. Even the Vice documentary on that Forrest didn't show freshly dead corpses. Wtf is wrong with some people? Are there honestly that many sociopathic assholes and pure idiots in this world? Looks like it.
While I usually agree with Joe on most things, I don't know about this one. Joe didn't make it clear how he feels in this case, but didn't really seem like Logan did anything wrong. If you think there is nothing wrong with what Logan did with his actions and with this video, you must either be a fan of his who is blinded by that same fandom, or you just don't care. Either way, I implore you to look it from the perspective of someone who has dealt with or could possibly deal with suicide at some point. What he did was terrible, and its kind of sad that it will barely be a speed bump in the overall trajectory of his career. I'm not wishing any harm or misfortune to come his way, but i hope he takes this time and the response he received as a time of reflection, and truly grows from this mistake.
Idk, the point is he just seemed way too nonchalant about it. If I was in that situation, as a grown ass man, I’m first running and immediately checking his pulse. If he’s really dead I’m immediately calling the cops and probably breaking down. He just seemed wayyyy too lighthearted about the whole thing
Gambit exactly mate, they've got fans as low as 7 and 8 watching that shit, plus their predatory merchandise tactics are disgusting as well, watch H3H3s latest podcast for more on that! My daughter's 8 and if I found out she was watching them and had seen that video I would be deleting UA-cam kids off the tv, only Netflix kids account for her. Luckily for her I'm an attentive father so I make sure I know what my daughter's watching!!
look you sad racist man, imagine this..... you're 10.... a video says WARNING DEAD BODY DO NOT WATCH..... and it just so happens to be one of your favourite youtubers... OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN IT! god you're thick! racists eh XD get back to school.
Exactly they watch it because they want to watch it. If they didn't want to see a dead body they should have heeded the warnings. Also judging by the fact that the video had a good like/dislike ratio when it was up I don't think the kids where very upset about it. Nice assumption that I am racist just because of my youtube name. Also nice assumption of my gender you sad sexist person.
Dang, I really lost respect for Joe watching this and I'm a long time listener. There is no justifying what Logan did. That man is a human, with family who didn't deserve to have his lifeless body mocked the way it was. Logan is heartless and deserves every ounce of backlash he's getting.
@@prankgirl9112 You're the one that's literally crying on the internet about what some UA-camr did; so that's a pretty interesting take. Anything else?
Joe, I love that you are so measured in your thought and weigh things out before jumping in. In the case of Logan Paul he has a long history of doing what puts money in his pocket and thinking very little about others in the process. He just doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.
Joe trying to be too edgy here. If it was joe's wife or one of his kids dangling from a tree and a bunch of japanese tourists started laughing at them on camera, i doubt he would find it all that amusing.
Yeah, exactly... wow joe! you're so edgy! Joes the man! Never thought of that joe! Fuck out here, Joe Rogan is a heartless, inconsiderate, illogical fuck as well. He deserves to have his wife, or brother, or children in that situation with a celebrity youtuber laughing near them in excitement, and joy, with millions watching... I wonder how he would feel.. inconsiderate fuck.
Titan Army I don't think he found it amusing to begin with. lol you're reaching at this point because the man didn't say exactly what you wanted him to say. #petty
I am not saying he found this case amusing, so you are reaching at a point i never made to begin with. He questioned whether it was wrong to joke near a dead guy or show people something they didnt want to see and couldnt grasp why people would be upset by such things. I doubt he wouldn't be "upset" about people joking around his dead wife or kid. Not that hard really. #pettier
Titan Army lol if you're going to spew bullshit, at least stand by your bullshit. Don't retract it as soon as somebody points out how silly it was #ThAtSn0twHatImEaNt
why should we? Because you think so? Not a good enough reason for me to be honest. I don't know you nor do I have any real perspective on your opinion.
Yeah Joe "he just showed up and the guy was dead" Joe is just looking at it from all perspectives. Nice commentary coming from a celebrity in a space suit high as a kite. Legend mate
Lol Rogan totally missed the point. It was a total lack of respect for the deceased and his family, obviously none of whom consented to the exploitation of the corpse.
Shocking how someone with one of the biggest podcast need to think that long to find a response and tries visibly that hard to find an excuse to this. Logan Paul filmed a suicide victim in Japan and uploaded the video on youtube. Thats it. You don't need any more perspectives or seconds thoughts on this topic, when everyone with a normal understanding of moral knows, that this is obviously just wrong. And let not get started of all the people here in the comments trying to defend Joe Rogans thinking process here. I also like to think about different topics more skeptical, but not when the whole picture is that clear.
I think he knew how people would react and did it purposely to get himself in the news. As the saying goes, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Its the same shit Pew Die Pie pulls when he posts the Nazi stuff. I think that was done for the purpose of drawing attention to his channel as well. These kids will just keep pushing things more and more to get views. And if you criticize them, then their cult-like following will attack you. lol The UA-cam generation is becoming a generation of sociopaths and i'm sad to be part of it.
Sean Green Rogan doesn't pull stunts like that for attention, I'm finding myself disagreeing with his views lately for some strange reason.. he's just been off mentally. You'd notice it more if you listened to him as much as i did. I don't hate him or anything he's just acting different
Joe it’s one thing to view all perspectives which a lot of us do naturally, but come on dude! I don’t care WHY Logan did it!! What if this was someone you loved? How would you feel if that person was being exploited for money?
Michele M I don't think that was Logan Paul's intent to make fun of a dead body... He just happened to be in Japan and went to the suicide forest and stumbled across a hanging corpse... But Paul very well mentioned in the video about suicide awareness and for those that are in a suicidal state of mind then he is there for them... I don't think the video is that bad... People read into it.. As they do with other things...
No it wasn't bad. He just made fun of the dead, hanging man, laughed at the corpse, along with his amazingly intelligent posse, and posed with it! Oh, and he didn't call the police. He continued filming and DID NOT edit out the body. So, you're right it wasn't that bad. I'm sure the family was sympathetic to Logan too. SMH
Michele M except he did call the police. He didn't make money off of it because it wasn't monetized and he never made fun of a dead body lmao. 😂 I don't even like the dude and I can see all of that
Great video Joe, very respectable perspective you have, most simple people are blinded by hatred to see that the video is nothing more than a guy reacting to a situation, the dead guys dead and he is no longer in this aspect of our existence (material), the end.
@Aravind Krishna you can joke after and still I would find that weird. But you do NOT joke about dead in front of a dead person while FILMING IT and you dont upload that shit. Like have some respect bro
What a stupid comment. Would you like the thought about someone filming one of your loved ones dead, making jokes about the situation right next to the corpse and then showing the video to millions of people on youtube?
People behave in strange ways when faced with something as traumatic as seeing the hanging body of a dead man, I can forgive Logan for that. The problem is he published it for all the world to see especially for the victims family, it was disrespectful.
right? everyone else here is on the wagon flaming everyone that thinks otherwise? Why aren't you here with your pitchfork? You must be on logans side? you're a heartless piece of shit! YOU'RE JUST AS BAD! And so it unravels lol
The Pleblian Victim family?? The body was just a random corpse.. A Random corpse hanging in the woods that nobody knows which family it belongs too... As for Logan Paul I hope he will be okay I think the hate is getting out of hand a bit.. People read too much into things and judge based on there own perspectives... That's not an accurate way to assess someone's character
The Pleblian I think logan figured that since he post graphic content on his channel at the majority of the time then his audience will be okay with the "suicide video"... With the apology and his merciful statements in the video torwards ppl who suffers from suicidal thoughts... He seems to be kind-hearted, we kinda live in a too quick to judge type of society... The people who are mocking Logan Paul for this are no better then him.
I always thought what Logan Paul did wasn’t the worst thing and people and the media did attack him excessively, he apologized donated to charity made a documentary. If people still can’t forgive him somethings wrong here. When a person is going to commit suicide or people find a dead body they all record it on their iPhones. For example when xxxtentacion died there was video of him dead on his car which someone shot don’t see that person getting a lot of shit for it.. don’t get me wrong I do think what he did was wrong but the reaction and outrage from the community and media wasn’t justified
Wow Joe really shrugged that off. He's the first influential person I've seen to practically dismiss it. "Yeah you shouldn't film a dead body" wtf kind of reaction is that
Logan Paul looked at the dead body, laughed and said it’s because this is how he copes with the situation, and then edited the video, and published it. Also made lots of dead people jokes.
IlluminateThePath woah he's the only human on earth to make jokes about dead people. Heck I was joking around right in front of my dead grandma as my mom did CPR to lighten the mood
There are many reasons behind not shooting or airing dead bodies. Obviously it’s rather graphic, and disrespects the dead and their family - which could sue the broadcaster. It also could be considered a violation of privacy.
His age group is like 9-17.
His vlogs are basically a kids show, so imagine fuckin’ blues clues showing a dude hanging and joking about it.
Brandon R
More like 9-12 I dont think anyone over the age of 12 would unironically watch the pauls.
Cynical true.
Cynical you mean mentally 9-12 since I've seen some of the Paul brothers fanbase from their videos and some are clearly in their mid teens
Ah my childhood, I remember watching blues clues before going to take my finals at 17
Jibby that joke hit with a huge thud.
Don’t quit your day job.
“You can joke around. But you can’t joke around near a dead guy.”
- Joe Rogan, 2018
It's not like the dead guy will get upset lol 😭
@@ssroudyss9432 It's just morals and respect I don't think you'd like it if your dead body was used for views and then was laughed at by a group of people.
That's how I see it. Almost like OH YOU CAN DO IT BUT I CANT. how many people would do the exact same thing Logan did but because there not famous they won't get the same attention. So they start being the finger pointers. But they are the real scums
@@holyfook1238 why would i give a shit if i was dead?
@@nunyabizwacks6711 Well 1srt because just thinking about it while you're alive you obviously would find that disrespectful and 2nd we have no idea what happens after death so for all we know the dead guy could be pissed lmao.
To the people defending Logan, remember this. That poor guy was at the lowest point of his life, so terrible that he decided taking his own life was better than living. Do you really think he wanted his lowest and darkest moment shown to millions of people? He deserves better than some little heartless pricks laughing and filming him.
Anyone defending Logan Paul is as soulless as he is.
Dude got to be the star of a Logan Paul video
Thats worse than suicide
He didnt,but he's dead, he didn't care,Noone knows who it is,his family wudnt know, so 🤷 boo hoo,it wasn't planned,I wud of uploaded a video too,maybe wudnt make a click bait out of it,cuz that's what I didn't like,but shit happens,move on,also they weren't laughing cuz it was funny,some people laugh as reaction to shocking shit happening
@@Uncannykenny move on??? You're replying 4 years later 🤣. Naw, he's still a dirtball for wanting to profit and gain internet clout from the encounter. He apologized with crocodile tears to save his own ass from getting deplatformed. Stop hopping on Logan's 🐔 by making excuses for him and get your head straight Frankie 😴 reading that almost gave me an aneurysm.
Also he crypto scamming now, geez who would've thought the guy who didn't respect corpses... would respect people 🤯
Yall wanted to see Joe have a fake opportunist reaction, his name is Joe not kavos
DA REAL Johnny Appleseed this comment needs more likes
Joe Logan talking about Rogan Paul
matthew connolly Joel rogel
I laughed way too hard at this 😂
after all the frustrating videos I watched about this issue, I laughed after seeing your comment. Thanks, mate.
What about Joe Paul ?
booooo
Is Joe taking a shuttle to confirm the moon landing happened or something?
Scott Hunt I hope to troll Eddie and all of 10th planet.
No it's bc they high as shit
DANNO yeah because of the Marijuana law that began on the first in California, but I hope it's in some way a subtle troll to Eddie.
Shuttle hasn't been around since 2011.
all they need is eddie bravo wearing tin foil hat
When you going to mars at 8 but you gotta do the podcast at 7
Parthion xbl haha😆🤣
Deadass thought tht was a high joke till I saw what Joe was wearing lmao
Lmao
Oh shit...I haven’t laughed this hard at a comment...EVER!!!! 😜🤪🤪😜
DaSean Wayne hahaha same man
Joe he was exploiting a suicide victim in a country that takes its privacy INSANELY seriously, not considering the family or the victim at all. Thats why people are upset.
Hes not defending and he's not critising people who critize people who do.
Joe "just joking near a dead guy" Rogan
Caleb Cox I laughed too hard at this lol
Sean A Gordon Same lol this was my favorite comment for sure
Caleb Cox Fucking lol
He's a heartless fuck as well.
Rogan made a very good point about it.
RIP TO THAT YOUNG MAN WHO DIED HOPE YOU FIND PEACE NOW
dumbass fuckin killed himself?
I think Joe got a little too high for this one.
I love the outrage that's carried over from logan paul to rogan here lmfao, no one seems to get that he's only commenting on the bandwagon hate train because he hasn't seen the video??
I think most people got to outraged for this topic. Made it seem to black and white while Joe Rogan lives in the grey. A true lion amongst sheep (not saying that the outraged are sheep, just saying that Rogan is not).
His eyes are literally rolling in the back of his head so I think you may be right haha
nail on the head hahahahah
Dont you say that in every clip?
He didn't "just show up", he knew what the fuck goes on there.
He brought attention to an extremely bad situation in Japan - no different than showing the dead 3-year-old beach boy over and over for political gain.
Who is talking about the media or the news? We are talking about Logan Paul being a complete utter idiot whose moral compass is so twisted he can't see where to draw the fucking line on how far he should go to get more views on his vlog.
Yeah because you are telepathic and know that he was absolutely 100% trying to look for a dead body rather than just make a "spooky" video. Because, you know, there is no possible way that Logan tried to do something else than the absolute worst thing you can imagine. Makes sense.
Dude, Logan Paul literally thought his vlog was dope as fuck prior to all the backlash, he thought IVE DONE SOMETHING NOBODY ELSE HAS EVER DONE, but really we were all watching thinking what kind of cretinous people actually film and upload this shit? Does it matter if he didn't think he was gonna find a body? His reaction to doing so clearly shows he was hoping he would, which is seriously, seriously fucked up.
The Bear that wrestled Khabib His reaction didn't show that he wanted to find a dead body, judging from your comment you probably already weren't a fan of Logan and are just trying to make him out as bad as possible. He was joking around to make the situation more manageable since he literally just found a dead body. I don't think he should of posted the video but don't publish your cynical opinions of the guy as facts because you don't like the guy.
How High do you need to be to justify Logan Pauls actions in that video.
Shawn Zamir FFXV Idk bro, could've been that Vader or Yoda OG because Joe is out of his fucking mind here
Mos Definitely Dark definitely has not come down yet
Rogan looks so fucking high, doesn't he?
Rewatch the video. He never justified, he tried to make that clear by literally saying that he wasn't defending Logan's actions.
Donald COWBOY Cerrone but you're talking all loud and bad on the internet. SMH. I bet you get bet up a lot. I'm sorry you got picked on as a kid. It would be horrible if you ever want on a trip to this Forrest.
damn. JR really dropped the ball on this one. i understand seeing a controversy from all angles, but there's only one right side here, and it's clear to most of us, and should certainly be clear to someone of JR's age and experience.
It isnt clear. You say they were laughing and joking to attempt to be malicious or because they have no regard for that persons life. I say you don't fucking know how you're going to react if shit like that goes down in front of you. Let me be clear, I am not defending him. He is dead wrong for uploading this video and teasing it before uploading it. Regardless of his intentions. Having said that im not gonna crucify the dude because him and his friends had a real reaction to something horrible.
Then you don't understand what he was saying at all, he literally says "I'm not defending him and it's not something you should do." what he said was its weird how we can joke about death unless we are standing next to the person. And he said he doesn't understand that about why we think that way.
not even mentioning the massive disrespect to Japan and its people's culture. his previous vlogs in the country have been ultimately more disrespectful than even Jackass: the movie when they went and did a couple of silly, stupid sketches in japan.
People are choosing to be pissed off. And there is not on right side becuase people will always have different opinions you fucking moron.
Rogan trying to be a contrarian again.
**defends logan paul** "im not defending him..."
Nah he wasnt defending him
6 years later 😂😂
@@aadambaxx Bro you answered 😂😂😂
@@toolazyforname4234 gotta show up for the boys!!
I mean at least watch the video and then talk about it.
s a m p l e t e x t they should so they can get more/better information.
you think a guy worth $53 million has time to watch some vloger on youtube?
dewil6661 then don't talk about it, who gives a shit how much money he has?
johnnyreality well, they have to talk about something
dewil6661 he should talk about what he knows then dummy.
Joe "everyone is going left? I'm going right" Rogan
Abdul hassan hes a maverick
Lol
That's why most people watch him. The fact that he can look at things from all angles rather than just do what everyone else is doing is why he has amassed such a wide and diverse fanbase. He doesn't follow the crowd but instead examines the situation to come out with his own opinions. Also, he's funny.
2% of people are going hard-left, 2% of people are going hard-right. The rest of us are becoming victims of these stupid marginal groups of trolls. Oh, good grief! The Internet is bad.
Josh Josh it's a fine line between "looking at things from all angles" and just being contrarian. Joe Rogan types tend to be the latter. I'm not trying to start an argument but "American Libertarian" dudes thrive on being contrarian and playing devil's advocate because it makes them feel superior. You know I do think it is important to consider different points of view and opinions and not believe everything that you're told, but sometimes even the "mainstream crowd" gets it right. Basic human decency is more important than being a badass maverick or whatever
Joe Rogan on the Logan Paul Controversy.... Without watching the video.
he should watch the video first
Thats why its called "on the controversy" not "on the video" and also maybe nobody endorses laughing and selfies of a hanging corpse
And still realizes everybody is probably overreacting. If you watched the video honestly oh know Bryan, like a lot of people, are adding shit that didn’t happen. They don’t laugh at his blue hands they were mentioning them while trying to see if he was alive. They didn’t laugh or make jokes about the dead body they were mortified, looked into the camera and said sucide is not a joke. He also put disclaimers and and intro and depression and sucide with the sucide hotline number. Also he didn’t monitize the video and made it clear. So really Bryan has never seen the video or is dishonest which is the case with you too probably
2Pactopus chill bro
I mean Redban was the one who brought it up without watching it in the first place, and Brian's explanation of it was worse than what actually happened.
I was excited to see this video to hear Rogan's opinion andd..... gotta say.... pretty damn disappointed..
"Uhmm... Yeaah... Why... I don't understand... Uuuhhhmm... I'm not saying... Like..."
What the fuck even is this video!?
Why are you disappointed in how he views things? Can you not form YOUR own opinion? Do you need joes help and guidance? Were you hoping for him to be outraged just the same as the rest of the world? He's reacting to the CONTROVERSY over logan paul, not logan pauls video itself. How could he give an opinion when he's never seen the video?
I totally agree with you bro
He was too high to even give a opinion on this
I just clearly stated that I was disappointed in his response.... you jumped up to conclusions as to WHY I'm disappointed... so calm down for a minute... are you done..? Do you feel better now...? The reason as to why I'm disappointed is because he just didn't say much at all to be honest... He didn't see the video at all and doesn't seem to even know much about the whole Logan Paul thing anyways (which is FIIINE, before you get allll up in arms about that...) He just usually has some deep shit to talk about regardless on WHAT his opinion is... it was more like an "Oh I don't know who this is, some UA-cam kid" didn't really seem to give two shits on the subject anyways. Again, which is fiiiiiine! He couldn't really give us an opinion... I just expected some more deeper shit as per usual... So you can just relaaaaax on your all caps-ness and take a breath.
Joe Rogan is questioning why people are offended? Anyone with a conscience would know why. There's no need to question this.
Rogan Paul.
this is great.
Lol
Joe Logan
Joe Paul
you gotta understand where he's coming from though, I think hes talking the social aspect of all this, everyones fucking up in arms? He's like eh, he did something shitty, everyone does, everyday, so why is this guy getting fucking murdered all over social media/the news?
Or atleast that's what I'm thinking hes thinking, cause I'm thinking that lol
Joe, if you watch the video. he's not genuine at all. and he said it was UA-cam history.
Austin Full I find your lack of empathy...disturbing
You just dont upload footage of dead people without their families consent. Especially if its someone from a different culture where privacy is very important, and even more when the person you find killed himself. A really sad and dishonorable thing to try and capitalize for views (or ANY other type of attention). There's no excuse for what the man did, it was wrong.
Michiel Prak were all gonna die the fact we're acting like seeing dead person shouldn't happen is dumb
I'm Demise People like you are the reason they have "do not drink" warnings on bleach bottles.
I'm Demise it's not about we all gonna day. The guy killed himself. Do you know the state he was at to do that and on top of that a guy comes a film your dead body and make jokes around you. C'mon dude is not humain thing to do.
Thats not the problem here. Were specifically talking about someone who killed himself laying around in an area which is famous for people killing themself in it. I think it's wrong to enter such an area just for attention and views. I wouldn't mind if he went in there but excluded the footage of the dead guy, explaining in the vid he did find one but out of respect for the family turned off the camera and went home. And even if you do upload the picture, at least be respectful instead of thinking about a fucking thumbnail with it......
Its more a "why do this thing?" kinda upset, not a "oh dead people are gross and scary" kinda upset. The fact so many people just dont get that shows a lot havent watched the footage OR have a very low emotional intelligence.
He says in beginning of video he’s not monetizing it for obvious reasons I don’t see the issue other than he has a young audience , but that aside he’s basically a journalist reporting on what he sees
you just don''t get it, they showed a dead body of a guy who hung himself, IN japan's suicide forest, a place that is to be RESPECTED, according to the Japanese, and disrespected japans culture, they LAUGHED at the dead body made jokes, and made humor, which is DISRESPECTFUL, He was very disrespectful towards the man who told him he should not be in that area. IT IS A CLEAR EXPLOITATION OF A VERY VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. Regardless of whether or not your offended by the images , they VIOLATE youtubes guide lines, plus pual logan showed blatant disrespect for the dead. you are obviously OK with laughing at a suicide victims body , in a place who's culture dictates that area and it's victims are to be respected, every one on youtube MUST respect and obey the youtube guide lines whether or not youtube/google gives them rule exemptions and celebrity immunity. IF i had posted a video like that , that video would be taken down and my channel would be suspended, but NOT youtube celebrity paul logen, he can be as disrespectful as he likes because he's corporate sponsored youtube celebrity paul logan.
Discord exactly, not only on youtube but the whole world seems to embrace stupid these days its incredibly sad.
Discord Hey dipshit! Have you not seen the absolutely horrible and fucked up videos on UA-cam?! This is nothing. Are you clueless and hypocritical?
Why are the Japanese committing suicide?
Too much work and debt. People finding it hard to socialize and make friends then become hikikomori.
just becouse YOU capitalise so much of the BULLSHIT you write doesnt make it hit home any harder dude.
Joe’s not getting it.
I honestly couldn’t see anything wrong it till I imagined one of my brothers hanging from that tree.
And for some self absorbed UA-camr like Logan Paul to find him and post a UA-cam video of himself randomly laughing while looking at my dead brother and saying, “this is the craziest thing *I’ve* ever seen! Wow *I* can’t unsee this! This is by far the craziest and most surreal vlog *I’ve* ever made.” *Me me me*
Man, get over yourself. My brother’s literally hanging from a tree and all you can say is “wow, this is the craziest video I’ve ever made for my UA-cam channel”?
Thats the issue.
Makes sense. I think that perspective would change joes mind.
Connor Fin thanks man, glad you agree
Yeah, you are right but rogan went face first in this topic with zero knowledge so yeah.
From that p.o.v. if a crazy killer was hunting you down, are you going to be thinking about his family? About the abuse he may or may not have had in his life that made him this way to hunt you down? Or are you going to say to yourself, this is fucked. Im fucked. This is the craziest moment of my life. If i survive this..blah blah..the problem is you put yourself not in logan pauls shoes, but on the opposite end that gives you a biased sensitive viewpoint. In pauls shoes, its a crazy thing to witness, and if you watched his vlog he preached soo many times in that video about how suicide isnt the answer, how its not funny, he hit some real points. It wasnt a mockery of a dead guy hanging like how people are playing it out to be.
Mickey Jewnyear
A youtuber posting a video and an interaction with a potential murderer are clearly two totally separate issues.
Yes, you’re still allowed to feel sympathy for the a killer’s life but that’s not incredibly useful when someone sincerely threatens your well-being. If someone is displaying clear intent to fatally harm me, It’s best if I ignore any peripheral details surrounding me, including those that may have lead this person to attack, and focus on how I can preserve my life in the moment of chaos. And that’s not cruelty or a lack of empathy, that’s wisdom.
In the case with Logan Paul, he clearly uploaded the video for views (as he does with all videos.) There’s nothing wrong with desiring a strong following and viewership but that doesn’t exempt you from moral etiquette. The big picture here is that the suicide of someone’s child, friend, brother, etc. is a tragedy that should be treated with the victims loved ones most at mind. They get the say in wether or not you can use the footage of their child, loved one, etc. not you. That’s just a matter of respect.
You don’t get Carte Blanche with something like that without paying the price for it. And there’s been enough said about this in the media and elsewhere to show that there is a price to be paid for disregarding the respect of the family (I don’t think Logan intentionally disregarded the family, but you don’t have to be aware of a wrongdoing for it to be wrong.)
If someone can’t se how it’s disrespectful to the family then we’re reaching a point called “wit’s end.” If you don’t understand how posting a video of someone’s dead child on UA-cam could be considered insensitive, then I’m not sure how I can explain it. I’m at my wit’s end.
As for Logan’s side: I totally understand, I would’ve been at a loss of words and probably would’ve said around the same things he said. I also may have made some unbecoming jokes in the moment because I, too, tend to combat “real” moments with shots of humor. That being said, I MOST DEFINITELY WOULD NOT HAVE POSTED IT.
The respect for the family and friends to the privacy of their tragedy should always take precedent over any benefit I may gain from exploiting it.
It’s like itching to tell a good joke at a funeral when everyone else is tearful and mourning. Yes, the joke may be great, but there’s a time and a place for everything and it’s demonstrably disrespectful to ignore the sorrow of those mourning in favor of a good laugh.
Even though the video was replete with warnings against suicide and the severity of it, I think wisdom would tell you that no measure of reassurance of the gravity of suicide gives you warrant to exploit the tragedy of someone.
I didn’t see Logan do anything overboard-insensitive in the video, but I certainl would not have posted it.
"I don't see anything wrong" then goes on to saying why it's wrong at the end. Genius.
joe trying to be smart
fk bold head bastard
You didnt listen....he didnt know if it was wrong until the dude told him....so yeah its fucked up
You’re a complete moron. He’s figuring out as he goes along. People like you are all the world’s problem capsuled in a human body, no respect for slow careful thinking.
He is most likely baked off his ass at the time of this too lol.
Joe is high
ivan denona High as f&u$!... and that outfit ain’t helping either
Yuuup
Or he's that naive and stupid. I hope he's just stoned af.
karl jonson He was stoned as fuck for this video, he even mentions how stoned he is in the podcast.
oh please. you dont smoke as long as joe does and not know wtf your saying you must be 12.
Joe, it’s important not to be so open minded that your brain falls out.
No. You must. That is what we do in democratic countries. Analyse, inspect, try to find the truth. Why do people in Japan want to die?
No, Rogan just didn't get the full context and completely missed the point while espousing his pseudo-philosophical bullshit
lol, wise words...
@gee dee If he didn't have the full context you cannot blame him for not getting the point. I'm sure if he saw the video and was provided with information surrounding it, his opinion wouldn't be the same. He is just giving his opinion on the limited info he had.
Are dead bodies disgusting and the people who fuck around with dead bodies disgusting? What a progressive idea that’s never existed since the Middle Ages.
Gallows humor is a thing, it’s a coping mechanism. Nervous laughing is one thing, making jokes is one thing, but the thing that bothered me about the Logan Paul thing was how obviously giddy and pumped he was(and the girl, too) about finding a body. They couldn’t hide their excitement.
WTF JOE.
Joe, you need to watch the video.
FUCK JOE ROGAN!
And the other japan vlogs right around the new year
Joe is off his rocker sometimes, finding a way to justify this. Even Redban is taking this serious and it’s Redban who takes nothing serious. I’m convinced the isolation tank and all the steroids to Joes head made him emotionless.
It's called civil suit mitigation.
They probably are represented by the same agency
He said it was "a terrible idea" and "you definitely shouldn't do it" - he wasn't so much justifying it as offering an alternative (stoned) opinion.
Triggered snowflake. Listen to Joe Rogan..... he clearly states people shouldn’t make fun of suicide.
Jerry M Yeah but HOW THE FUCK he can't see what's wrong about it or "why are people outraged"?! I know he's stoned but he's not that stoned.
I like Joe, but he was being a hypocrite. When Chester Bennington died he didn’t want Eddie bravo to talk about it “out of respect” yet joe acts like everyone is crazy when Jake Paul films a dead guy.
Chris Hansen I was getting ready to say the same thing. Don’t get me wrong I love Joe but this is hypocritical
.... he sais it's weird that we.... key word... we... have outrage about stuff like that. He was questioning himself too. He often asks questions like that... so how is that hypocritical?
Good fucking point....
Chris Hansen those are 2 different things
That was an important dead guy
In Logan's "apology" he said "I didn't do this for views. I GET VIEWS". That alone is a red flag. He definitely did it for views. I get the thought process, that it's the BIG THING that'll be"original". But even in the apology, he had to mention his view count, which also included a peace emoji (as a 'peace out') and a hashtag that promoted himself. Didn't hashtag a suicide prevention reference or anything. His apology was damage control, and nothing else.
Wow. His lack of conviction is depressing.
I find your lack of empathy...disturbing
I’m no bleeding-heart snowflake, and I’m definitely a champion of free speech, but what this kid did is reprehensible. Next time, do research (actually watch the video in question) before opining on a topic. Otherwise, you’re bound to look like an apathetic fool.
is that what anti-sjws call themselves these days "champion of free speech" LMFAO
Your dad calls me his "bottom of the box twinky" ;)
_"I’m no bleeding-heart snowflake, and I’m definitely a champion of free speech..."_
Fuck me, call yourself what you may but this is some white knighting right here
Teeb Seeb I was addressing HIS FANS you MORONS. I’m neither democrat nor republican, I think they’re BOTH bought by the system and I don’t even vote. So go bark off elsewhere.
im neither...i just think its hilarious that the reactionaries are as ridiculous as the SJWs...like you literally think you're some knight or soldier in some front line...it's the fucking internet..you live in your mom's basement..you and the SJWs are the fucking same...it's so fucking sad.
Joe needs to get off the junk
+Mr. Sotack #Pray4Joe
spacemanshan was that English or...
He's becoming a burn out..
He does seem spacey as fuck lately. Not because he's wearing a 8-year-old's halloween costume, but because he can barely turn a thought into an intelligent sentence anymore.
TJIMC sleems like he's getting a bit "slowwww"
Needs a detox from the weed.
Joe, you thought it was so disrespectful to even talk about Chris and Chesters death with Eddie Bravo. What if the persons that found their bodies took a video of it, laughed and posted it on youtube for clicks. I'm sure that would have been disgusting to you and should be. But that guy in Japan was a real person too Joe. Man I love you and agree with most of your opinions but not this time at all. Don't start to sink to that level.
Joe doesnt have to have the time to give a fuck about what an immature little fuck does. seriously, why do you care so much? does your life suck that bad?
GUCCI GANG - If he doesn't care then why are here to defend Joe? Why are you so triggered by this guy's opinion of Rogan? Does your life really suck that bad you had to defend someone you don't even know or care about? LMAO! See what I did there?
Maplenerd22 because that is all you fucking see its so damn annoying and people go after other peoples neck for not caring as much as they do
OMG retards acted inappropriately when confronted with death, stop the presses bitches, fellow retards need to react to the reaction.... jesus....
@Ian Pittman - Are you talking about Joe Rogan? LMAO!
For those who feel rubbed the wrong way by Joe's words, I believe he was trying to grapple with how human beings receive this kind of content on a more abstract level than is usual. There are a range of reactions to content like this and I think he was trying to see things from different, albeit less sympathetic, perspectives - even emotionally disassociated ones. I'm not disappointed by Joe's words and I don't think he was too high. I think he has a very popular show and people sometimes take his casual thoughts while he's feeling around an issue as his conclusive stance on it.
Let's not jump on people for saying things that deviate from our own thinking. Let's try to step into their situation and ask ourselves, beyond our first reaction, why someone might be saying what they are. We can always come back to our emotions after stretching our empathy.
Cheers :)
very well written 👏 and i agree 100 percent with this ❗️
i know this is a very late response lol you probably won’t see this, but i hope that you do!
Maybe watch the video first yourself joe?
hes not a 13 yr old girl to know who he is
R yt this time..its valid to watch
not to mention he was obviously stoned. Let's be honest, how coherent and reasonable are YOU when under the influence? Joe couldn't focus on the subject with any grounding seriousness, that's why he said the things he said. Even stuff like "I'm just exploring the possibilities" is obvious stoner talk. I mean, if a full on scale tragedy happened and you were dozed the fuck out of your mind, there's no way you'd be able to comprehend the situation fully and/or feel sad about it. Same thing here.
ricoco7891 wow I think your trolling so I’m just gunna stop here
While I don't agree with Joe here, I don't think he's fully aware of how Logan is and how delusionally obnoxious he is. I think if Joe had seen his videos before and knew who and how he was, he would feel the way we all feel. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
RedTV8888 THANK YOU!!! 👏👏👏
I wasn't offended by it. I was just annoyed with how incredibly tactless he was being. Every shot in that forrest had to be set up. He had to tell the person with the camera "Ok shit theres a dead guy over there. Film me walking up like I just saw it and let me react to it like it's a real reaction, and then we'll take the camera over and film it." So not only was the stuff he filmed tasteless, but the process behind planning it was even more so. But even if we were to focus on what was shot, there are so many kids now, in an already decently emotionally inept and tactless generation, that are going to watch this and think this is totally ok. I hate to sound like an old fart, but this is not how an adult should act, and the young people who have yet to reach that point in their lives now think that it is. So that's my biggest problem. Of course I expected this shit from him. He's annoyed the bejesus out of me ever since he became vine famous. But the fact that this is how he acts on such a large stage is what bothers me.
Fair enough
Joe is one of these Free Speech Warriors where he thinks no one should ever be held accountable or criticized for anything they say and no one should be offended. Its free speech taken to a psychotic degree.
Sean Green uhhhh, Joe criticizes things all the time. And this is more about actions made concerning a dead body, not really about what was said. WTF video did you watch?
But isn't this logan kids fan base 90% children? He knows that.. Obvious click bait attempt. Of course a child would click on that video and they don't need to see that kind of material. It's fucked up man.
Joe looks like he took a few too many tokes.
Sean Hyde i think thats why hes wearing a nasa space suit 😂
He always get blasted with this guy
Unfortunately Joe is so eager to jump on the anti-political correctness bandwagon that he ends up occasionally making excuses for people who actually deserve to be criticized. A lot of the time he's right: these lynchmobs that spring up when somebody says something politically incorrect are a problem. But it's hardly surprising this douchebag got criticized for what he did.
He went out of his way to find a guy who'd committed suicide and showed it in a UA-cam video just to get clicks, in the process disrespecting the victim and plastering somebody's relative's face all over the internet. It's beyond despicable to put somebody's family through that just to get a few clicks on UA-cam. This isn't about political correctness this time, it's just about having basic decency. That little shit has none and he deserves all the hate he's getting.
Joe literally said he had no idea who Logan Paul was, and that he was not making excuses for him. Its crazy how people will hear what they wanna hear regardless of how many times you repeat the same shit over.
Seems a little bit stoned off his bicky to me. Prob got the gear from Logan.
WhyNotGuy what?
Joe, the professional devils advocate
R Did he not in the beginning say he read the story or am I retarded?
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
Pretty low Joe. Should watch the video first before you throw some insight. All of them were clearly smirking and laughing.
Last thing you're getting from Rogan Paul is insight
It wouldn't be funny if it was your loved one hanging there, Joe.
Jamie is SO off. There was no photo posing with the man. So many people have done ghost hunting videos and never came across a body. Logan did. Nobody knows how they’d react in that situation. He seemed nervous and unsure if it was real and some people laugh nervously but he didn’t make fun of the guy and show his blue hands and all that. I watched it all when it first came out and many other documentaries about the suicide forest.
The thumbnail was literally Logan with a shocked pikachu face and the dude hanging in the background.
And yeah. Maybe nobody came across a body and Logan did. The problem is Logan INCLUDED it, while giggling.
Yeah, people will sometimes laugh out of nervousness with the uncomfortable nature of a situation. What people don’t do is make a video with a hype intro, have a good time in the first half, walk into a forest known for suicides, find a dead body, laugh, and PUBLISH that video online and monetize it.
This weird defense of Logan that still exists for that video is unreal and disgusting. That dude was and still is a complete garbage human being.
I appreciate that Joe takes a moment and thinks on his own about any issue, before just going along with what the collective opinion is. It's always refreshing to see someone do that. HOWEVER, when 'exploring different perspectives' as he put it, it is also important to gather the essential facts first. Or else, you're not really exploring and discovering, but just walking around groping in the dark. Since he didn't know anything about what the actual problem was, this whole conversation came out a bit... silly. I'm not going to judge his views on this matter based on this clip, but I would be curious to see what he thinks when he DOES know exactly what the issue is.
And what's the issue?
Hearing about Logan Paul filming a suicide victim in Japan and then putting the video on UA-cam is enough information for a clear judgment I think.
This is a business model. Irreverent act followed by apologies, and repeat. He will likely benefit from the publicity.
For sure
Joe even said it himself - they are participating in it by just talking about it. As well as you and I by clicking, watching, and commenting on it. Fuck.
He gained 80k subscribers yesterday and he's usually between 30k and 50k per day. So ya looks like it helped him.
I wish I had never heard of this Logan Paul guy. I saw some of his videos and I found him quit annoying and idiotic. I don't even know how he has a fan base.
Joe "legalise cocaine"Rogan
KCJones you're joking me right?
Bill Gates He actually said that before which is mental .
KCJones i mean the legalising weed thing,, yeah I can see logic to that but coke, 😂 😂 😂
Bill Gates I always knew you were a smart man.
KCJones throw away your iPhones dude.. 😋
Killing babies ok but suicide is wrong?
yh
Both are wrong
I love how everyone is apparently missing joe's point he was trying to make about the arbitrariness of being respectful in this specific way for this specific type of death, for suicide victims as opposed to other types of deaths we hear about all the time, and just blasting him for not repeating the same drivel that everyone else is that if they found a body and were in a state of shock they'd be perfectly orderly and considerate about the situation. I think Logan fucked up big time in plenty of ways but his reaction to a shocking event with freaked out laughter is completely normal, do you think soldiers don't make morbid jokes and shit in response to atrocities they see and know are horrible?
Yea but LOGAN PAUL ISNT A FUCKING SOLDIER
@@sicthemutt people on IG record killings and people getting beaten everyday and nobody makes a big deal
@@sicthemutt How do you know he hasn't seen morbid stuff? Do you stalk him or smtn?
Also Logan Paul goes to Japan; into an infamous forrest for its many suicide victims; finds such suicide victim; laughs and makes jokes with his "friends" about it; posing with the dead body; let the video get edited; and then uploads this video on youtube, where first of all his very young fanbase can see it...
Sorry but you don't need all the information to see that this is just horribly wrong on so many levels.
Y’all is high. I think there’s gonna be some blowback on this one.
mc moto From who? From where? In the fucking comment section on his videos. "Blowback".
Also his content is aimed at children! !!
Sarah-Jayne Mcdonald no it’s not, just happens to be that more children watch UA-cam
So what? Most kids especially in the internet age are exposed to porn, gore, violent shooting games and movies that contain all of those things at once. A hanging body doesn't exactly shock kids anymore.
It’s all kids and he knows it but yet still decided to show them a hanging Japanese dude like wtf
I don't he is aware of that.
If he knew. I am sure he would understand the outrage.
*Can we get much HIIIGGGHHHEEERRR, SO HIIIIGGGGHHHH!*
Holy crap a legend!!
What makes this outrageous is the fact that he did this in Japan. We cremate our dead in Japan. There are religious and cultural implications that make viewing someone's corpse extremely disrespectful. That's not even considering the difference between a natural death and one of suicide. Our children don't even behave this way in public in Japan. The issue isn't about the public's sensitivities. The issue is the lack of sensitivity in Logan Paul.
Was this podcast removed? I can’t find it
Sometimes it's not the "outrage machine". Sometimes someone does something that is just indefensible. I can't tell if Joe is just too high here or if he really is just turning "going against the grain" into his formula now. It's not about seeing something you don't want to see - think about the dude's family who is probably going to see this. And then there's the issue of UA-cam letting the video get to trending even though it violated their terms while they shit on smaller channels for much less.
Not only that but it is partly about "Seeing something you dont want to see" because both the logans audiences are under 15s, they like watching prank videos, they like watching people get hit in the balls with a soccer ball, or hit with a tazer or stuff like that. They thought they were going to get more of that, now these children were exposed to something that no one at that age should have to be exposed to. Not only that, it was handled so poorly by Logan.
Kids think its cool because it makes them feel "adult" that they saw something like that, but as someone who is much much older now, I personally realize that you grow up way too fast. Its something that is always told to kids, and they never believe it, you should cherish your youth, and this is just another thing forcing children to have to deal with "facts of life" that they shouldn't have to think about.
Now, I dont believe in censorship, I know when i was 14-18 growing up in one of the firstt generations to have access to the internet at home, i did a lot of fucked up shit. I'm not trying to be a hypocrite, if a 15 year old wants to go look at shit like that, fine, if they think they can handle it fine. If their parents arent doing their due diligence fine. But that doesn't mean this kind of stuff, real life death and all the baggage that comes with it should be shoved into their sub box because some fuckface who should know better thought it was cool to video a dead body and post it to youtube.
Joe Rogan is both a burn out pot head and a "going against the grain" person, even if something is purely wrong, Joe will defend it... just as long as he never agrees with the masses. Thats basically his mindset
From watching Joe's show only a few times here and there, it just seems like he likes to talk about societal tropes a lot..
Don't get me wrong, I used to get a lot out of Joe's podcasts. But he's been going further and further in this direction, which is just plain lazy in my opinion and goes against everything he supposedly stands for. I wouldn't say he's a burnout; he's clearly a successful dude who has made more money than most people in the comments can hope to. This whole clip pissed me off because of his intellectual laziness. He didn't even try to understand the situation and mostly talked over Redban even though he clearly knew more about what was going on.
@Comeybowl True! He didn't look into the logan paul situation at all.
Joe is clearly high here
Nicholas Martin no....just using common sense to realize logan’s intent wasnt bad, but turned out bad, its the truth, and people dont like it, they wanna see someone at a high point with success, fail and drop down to nothing, “hate”
Fakoh his intent wasn't bad?
I think you must be lucky to not have seen the other shit he was pulling in Japan to get views. The guy gives zero fucks about people and what stuns me more than the "Logan Paul should die" outrage are the idiots like you that can't see he's Disney channel acting and using a dead body as a prop to gain views.
Maybe next time he can fuck off back to the US and crash a funeral, pop open the casket , do some edgy jokes then make a couple of cuts with his "fam" to talk about suicide because "good intent" makes it better right?
Joshua McCoskrie as long as he isnt hurting anyone hes good lol who cares...and how would he use the dead body for views if he demonetized the video....idiot
Fakoh Not hurting anyone? Are you serious? Just think about all the families of suicide victims in that forest.
I'm actually agreeing with you to some point about his intention and hate, but in here the problem is about his behaviour that disrespecting other cultures, especially a really heavy cultured country like japan. The people there are taught to be respectful and considerate to others, then there he comes and just fuck around with everyone, like how he was being loud and obnoxious inside a temple, throwing money in a disrespectful way, playing around with foods on the middle of the street, leaving it on a moving car.
Weren’t people mad because of the age of his audience?
Nicole Parreira ya mostly preteens
Nicole Parreira His audience is a bunch of brian dead retards.
Also because he's a sociopat.
No because you don't film a dead body up close, cracking inappropriate immature jokes, using the body for views, exploiting the suicide of a person from a culture KNOWN for privacy around all things including suicide (hence the Forrest) AND also having an audience of kids and brain dead cretins.
You seem to of missed many points here. It's not just the age of his audience who worship the ground this sociopath walks on.
It's so many aspects that a shockingly large number of people seem to have missed, don't know or simply don't care about.
+booty2k he's not a journalist FFS doing war corresponding and he is not a documentary maker.........he is a basic bitch vine douche who vlogs to kids and morons.
Even the Vice documentary on that Forrest didn't show freshly dead corpses.
Wtf is wrong with some people? Are there honestly that many sociopathic assholes and pure idiots in this world?
Looks like it.
Joe Rogan making comments without seeing the video first. He and that Logan kid should team up.
While I usually agree with Joe on most things, I don't know about this one. Joe didn't make it clear how he feels in this case, but didn't really seem like Logan did anything wrong. If you think there is nothing wrong with what Logan did with his actions and with this video, you must either be a fan of his who is blinded by that same fandom, or you just don't care. Either way, I implore you to look it from the perspective of someone who has dealt with or could possibly deal with suicide at some point. What he did was terrible, and its kind of sad that it will barely be a speed bump in the overall trajectory of his career. I'm not wishing any harm or misfortune to come his way, but i hope he takes this time and the response he received as a time of reflection, and truly grows from this mistake.
100% agree
Idk, the point is he just seemed way too nonchalant about it. If I was in that situation, as a grown ass man, I’m first running and immediately checking his pulse. If he’s really dead I’m immediately calling the cops and probably breaking down. He just seemed wayyyy too lighthearted about the whole thing
I see what joes saying, but at the same time he doesn’t know those Logan Bellends audiences are about 10-14! They don’t need to be seeing it.
Gambit exactly mate, they've got fans as low as 7 and 8 watching that shit, plus their predatory merchandise tactics are disgusting as well, watch H3H3s latest podcast for more on that! My daughter's 8 and if I found out she was watching them and had seen that video I would be deleting UA-cam kids off the tv, only Netflix kids account for her. Luckily for her I'm an attentive father so I make sure I know what my daughter's watching!!
fuck those little bastards. They're the retards of the next generation. Fuck em and their dumbass Millennial parents.
Then they shouldn't watch the video. There where plenty of warnings.
look you sad racist man, imagine this..... you're 10.... a video says WARNING DEAD BODY DO NOT WATCH..... and it just so happens to be one of your favourite youtubers... OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN IT! god you're thick! racists eh XD get back to school.
Exactly they watch it because they want to watch it. If they didn't want to see a dead body they should have heeded the warnings. Also judging by the fact that the video had a good like/dislike ratio when it was up I don't think the kids where very upset about it.
Nice assumption that I am racist just because of my youtube name. Also nice assumption of my gender you sad sexist person.
Dang, I really lost respect for Joe watching this and I'm a long time listener. There is no justifying what Logan did. That man is a human, with family who didn't deserve to have his lifeless body mocked the way it was. Logan is heartless and deserves every ounce of backlash he's getting.
Who cares.
@@J_Clean_1996
You watched the video, spent time reading the comments and took the time to reply, so I'd say you are the one who cares.
@@prankgirl9112 Woah, that was such a good one.
Did you just make that up?
@@J_Clean_1996
You sound like a 10 year old. Don't comment until you're older. You'll make less of an ass out of yourself in a few years.
@@prankgirl9112 You're the one that's literally crying on the internet about what some UA-camr did; so that's a pretty interesting take.
Anything else?
It's in poor taste.
Add to that an extra chromosome and you have a textbook description of Logan Paul.
Joe, I love that you are so measured in your thought and weigh things out before jumping in. In the case of Logan Paul he has a long history of doing what puts money in his pocket and thinking very little about others in the process. He just doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.
Joe trying to be too edgy here. If it was joe's wife or one of his kids dangling from a tree and a bunch of japanese tourists started laughing at them on camera, i doubt he would find it all that amusing.
Yeah, exactly... wow joe! you're so edgy! Joes the man! Never thought of that joe! Fuck out here, Joe Rogan is a heartless, inconsiderate, illogical fuck as well. He deserves to have his wife, or brother, or children in that situation with a celebrity youtuber laughing near them in excitement, and joy, with millions watching... I wonder how he would feel.. inconsiderate fuck.
Titan Army I don't think he found it amusing to begin with. lol you're reaching at this point because the man didn't say exactly what you wanted him to say. #petty
I am not saying he found this case amusing, so you are reaching at a point i never made to begin with. He questioned whether it was wrong to joke near a dead guy or show people something they didnt want to see and couldnt grasp why people would be upset by such things. I doubt he wouldn't be "upset" about people joking around his dead wife or kid. Not that hard really. #pettier
Titan Army lol if you're going to spew bullshit, at least stand by your bullshit. Don't retract it as soon as somebody points out how silly it was #ThAtSn0twHatImEaNt
Titan Army #triggered
Try not to flame Joe here too much, obviously if he did his research he would have said something different.
He should've moved on after he said he didn't watch it.
He should be flamed for commenting on something that he didn't do his research on.
Anyone who is trying to really flame Joe here should focus their attention elsewhere...
why should we? Because you think so? Not a good enough reason for me to be honest. I don't know you nor do I have any real perspective on your opinion.
because the main issue here is about suicide and depression not about how a podcaster made an honest mistake.
Yeah Joe "he just showed up and the guy was dead" Joe is just looking at it from all perspectives. Nice commentary coming from a celebrity in a space suit high as a kite. Legend mate
Careful Joe....Careful
Vivek V having your pic as the joker made this comment 10x more intimidating
@@user-qo8bk2jr9c LOL
And now Logan is trying to fight everybody.
Got to agree with Joe on this, the whole thing is wrong. But the level of outrage is way too far.
Lol Rogan totally missed the point. It was a total lack of respect for the deceased and his family, obviously none of whom consented to the exploitation of the corpse.
Joe........ what are you even talking about????
Shocking how someone with one of the biggest podcast need to think that long to find a response and tries visibly that hard to find an excuse to this.
Logan Paul filmed a suicide victim in Japan and uploaded the video on youtube. Thats it. You don't need any more perspectives or seconds thoughts on this topic, when everyone with a normal understanding of moral knows, that this is obviously just wrong.
And let not get started of all the people here in the comments trying to defend Joe Rogans thinking process here. I also like to think about different topics more skeptical, but not when the whole picture is that clear.
that video was definitely demonetized 😭
“ Filming a dead guy that committed suicide
to raise awareness about suicide “
Seems pretty Idiotic to me
jalewis210 Yep, Idiotic...
dolly drill Right!
I smoke heroin to raise awareness for the opoid epidemic my guy. Don't hate.
Rogan's been losing it these past few months tbh .. been listening for around 4 yrs
Exactly what I thought. He's getting higher and higher in every podcast and losing his train of thought.
I think he knew how people would react and did it purposely to get himself in the news. As the saying goes, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Its the same shit Pew Die Pie pulls when he posts the Nazi stuff. I think that was done for the purpose of drawing attention to his channel as well. These kids will just keep pushing things more and more to get views. And if you criticize them, then their cult-like following will attack you. lol The UA-cam generation is becoming a generation of sociopaths and i'm sad to be part of it.
Sean Green Rogan doesn't pull stunts like that for attention, I'm finding myself disagreeing with his views lately for some strange reason.. he's just been off mentally. You'd notice it more if you listened to him as much as i did. I don't hate him or anything he's just acting different
BearLionMan I get what you’re saying dude. Maybe he relies too much on alphabrain lol
@ BearLionMan I'm talking about Logan Paul. I actually misread the OP's comment and thought he said Logan instead of Rogan. lol
Logan Paul is a goofball disrespecting the dead...
Was the dead guy a real guy?
Joe is ready to jump into a nasa spacecraft after the podcast
That’s why I love you Joe Rogan, you always look at all the different perspectives and don’t just agree with the crowd
Joe it’s one thing to view all perspectives which a lot of us do naturally, but come on dude! I don’t care WHY Logan did it!! What if this was someone you loved? How would you feel if that person was being exploited for money?
Michele M I don't think that was Logan Paul's intent to make fun of a dead body... He just happened to be in Japan and went to the suicide forest and stumbled across a hanging corpse... But Paul very well mentioned in the video about suicide awareness and for those that are in a suicidal state of mind then he is there for them... I don't think the video is that bad... People read into it.. As they do with other things...
No it wasn't bad. He just made fun of the dead, hanging man, laughed at the corpse, along with his amazingly intelligent posse, and posed with it! Oh, and he didn't call the police. He continued filming and DID NOT edit out the body. So, you're right it wasn't that bad. I'm sure the family was sympathetic to Logan too. SMH
Michele M except he did call the police. He didn't make money off of it because it wasn't monetized and he never made fun of a dead body lmao. 😂 I don't even like the dude and I can see all of that
Great video Joe, very respectable perspective you have, most simple people are blinded by hatred to see that the video is nothing more than a guy reacting to a situation, the dead guys dead and he is no longer in this aspect of our existence (material), the end.
@Aravind Krishna you can joke after and still I would find that weird. But you do NOT joke about dead in front of a dead person while FILMING IT and you dont upload that shit. Like have some respect bro
What a stupid comment.
Would you like the thought about someone filming one of your loved ones dead, making jokes about the situation right next to the corpse and then showing the video to millions of people on youtube?
Social Media is SOFT AF
He broadcasted it to millions of KIDS. THATS THE ISSUE.
People behave in strange ways when faced with something as traumatic as seeing the hanging body of a dead man, I can forgive Logan for that. The problem is he published it for all the world to see especially for the victims family, it was disrespectful.
The only logical comment I've read.
right? everyone else here is on the wagon flaming everyone that thinks otherwise?
Why aren't you here with your pitchfork? You must be on logans side? you're a heartless piece of shit! YOU'RE JUST AS BAD! And so it unravels lol
The Pleblian Victim family?? The body was just a random corpse.. A Random corpse hanging in the woods that nobody knows which family it belongs too... As for Logan Paul I hope he will be okay I think the hate is getting out of hand a bit.. People read too much into things and judge based on there own perspectives... That's not an accurate way to assess someone's character
Bullshit... He sensationalized it and didn't pull any thought into the repercussions, which tells me enough about his character.
The Pleblian I think logan figured that since he post graphic content on his channel at the majority of the time then his audience will be okay with the "suicide video"... With the apology and his merciful statements in the video torwards ppl who suffers from suicidal thoughts...
He seems to be kind-hearted, we kinda live in a too quick to judge type of society... The people who are mocking Logan Paul for this are no better then him.
I always thought what Logan Paul did wasn’t the worst thing and people and the media did attack him excessively, he apologized donated to charity made a documentary. If people still can’t forgive him somethings wrong here. When a person is going to commit suicide or people find a dead body they all record it on their iPhones. For example when xxxtentacion died there was video of him dead on his car which someone shot don’t see that person getting a lot of shit for it.. don’t get me wrong I do think what he did was wrong but the reaction and outrage from the community and media wasn’t justified
Bro wtf the podcast isn’t even over!!!
Politikz I GOT MY HAND ON MY GAT, GOT MY HAND ON MY CRACK, GOT MY HAND ON MY CAT, GOT MY HAND ON MY STACK, FUCK DRAKE, REAL HIP HOP
Wow Joe really shrugged that off. He's the first influential person I've seen to practically dismiss it. "Yeah you shouldn't film a dead body" wtf kind of reaction is that
Joe Rogan and dana white always confuse me 😅😂😂
Logan Paul looked at the dead body, laughed and said it’s because this is how he copes with the situation, and then edited the video, and published it. Also made lots of dead people jokes.
IlluminateThePath woah he's the only human on earth to make jokes about dead people. Heck I was joking around right in front of my dead grandma as my mom did CPR to lighten the mood
What the fuck is Joe talking about lol
BlakeBiundo high as a kite
He was high haha.
Damn I was really expecting Joe to go in…
A lot of people laugh in the face of trauma.
There are many reasons behind not shooting or airing dead bodies. Obviously it’s rather graphic, and disrespects the dead and their family - which could sue the broadcaster. It also could be considered a violation of privacy.
He was laughing next to the body. Idk maybe he had a nervous reflex defense mechanism to seeing a dead body.
charlieq2012 true, humor is a coping mechanism and it's very annoying to see people criticize him for laughing