@@Saqux yep, you can go check. It's when she's on the roof with her grandson. Season 1 actual has a lot of litte hints towards Marco, Nomai's connection to him and the danger of asteroid strikes. That wasn't in the books
@@Saqux Yep, and not only that, in S1 E1 Avasaralla says, "You were transporting stealth technology to someone in the Belt...Someone trusted you with the holy grail, the only question is, who was it?" And now we know who THAT was... Marco was the villain from S1 E1 !
Ashford, went out like a boss. it was sad. i cried. He kept his dignity, far after he knew he was done. he stared death in the face, then hocked a giant, snot filled, mouthful of spit into deaths face, over pleaing desperately for his life, as those doors opened.
I loved the way they obscured Filip (who is probably between 16 & 18) in the meeting with Esai, on the dock, in the elevator and him swearing at Bobbie and in the blurred shot on Marco's ship before appearing to get the drop on Ashford. Also, lots of Easter eggs on Bobbie's handheld terminal. A very critical character is on her terminal as she is trying to research the people involved in the selling of Martian tech. These writers, producers and creators are amazing.
48:16 "I literally don't know what's gonna happen now" Paraphrasing Marco: "You see, this has always been a problem of our kind. Even our nightmares are small"
Klaes Ashford's death was so harrowing, so poignant so heartwrenching. I felt like I was punched in my chest and was left gasping for air. To know you're end is at hand and all you can do is sing your child's favorite song as you despair in the darkness of the void. What an end to a legend, The Knife of Kalisto is no more. Let's drink that bottle of earther whiskey Klay told us to enjoy when he got back.
Fun fact: Burn Gorman (Murtry) and Wes Chatham (Amos aka "My Best Boy") were so focused on that scene Gorman actually punched Chatham in the face. Gorman was so horrified with what he did, and Wes Chatham's response was "No, no! leave it in! That was great!"
@@fakecubed Like Viggo Mortensen breaking his toe when kicking that helmet as Aragorn in Two Towers. He did not break character, but let out his pain by screaming and falling to his knees (not in the script!), as if in anguish over the hobbits‘ apparent deaths. They kept it in the finished movie.
Did you noticed that Bobbie actually met Naomi's son on Mars? Filip was the one we saw in the elevator that called Bobbie a bitch and set off the bomb.
To confirm, in the book Leviathan Wakes, Lopez says while interrogating Holden, “There are over thirty billion people on Earth.” That’s what the stakes are… well, that and anything that the Earth produces that can’t yet be made on Mars or beyond.
The song Ashford was singing is a version of Sam Hall a song about a chimney sweep "that robbed great and small" and was hung for his crimes, originally Jack Hall who was hanged at Tyburn in 1707. In the 1840s the song was rewritten and performed on stage by music hall singer C.W. Ross who changed the title.
“Like I could feel the spaces, between things.” - Don't forget: Everything that we can see (in the universe), is just under 5% of what is believed to be there. 🤯 Also: That explosion of joy, at _that_ communication near the end - Thank you ladies, for the huge happy smile you brought to my face. 😊
If you go back to Season 1, Episode 1, you'll Chrisjen interrogated an OPA smuggler who got caught with stolen stealth tech from Mars. She was trying to find out who was behind it, as her biggest fears were 'people throwing rocks at Earth', and 'Mars sharing a toothbrush with the OPA'. Now both of those fears have come to pass, and the mastermind behind that original plot is finally revealed: Marco Inaros.
I don't think that's correct. It's there to show that OPA factions are very interested in obtaining Martian military tech, especially stealth composites. But that is not where Marco's faction obtained MCRN stealth tech. That smuggler likely was not part of Inaros' faction. ********** SPOILERS for S5 and S6 of The Expanse************ The source for stealth tech for the Inaros OPA faction is the Laconian conspirators within the MCRN, led by Duarte and Sauveterre. Their conspiracy formed AFTER the opening of the ring gates at the end of S3, and especially after the discovery of the abandoned ring builder shipyard in orbit of the planet that would later become Laconia. This faction of conspirators within the MCRN saw the writing on the wall as far as the future of Mars, decided to seize the advanced alien military tech and use Inaros' faction to sow chaos within the Sol System and paralyze the governments and militaries of Earth and Mars so that their conspiracy could make its move and safely "turtle" in the Laconian system until they could figure out how to exploit ring tech. In exchange for Inaros' cooperation, they provide him with generous amounts of military tech, including stealth composites and a number of advanced warships.
@@elkapro6534 Mao already had those ships built. He didn't need any more and he would have just gotten it or developed it himself. The OPA prisoner was working for Marcos. The books were already out and with this and Chrisjen's comment about people throwing rocks was foreshadowing this series of events. It's their "Winter is Coming".
@@artboymoy just, no. Inaros story would never happen without Rings opening. He was pirate nobody in season 1, and he was still just a pawn of Duarte in seasons 4/5/6.
So many great moments in this season finale! But to watch you two from the moment Ashford was introduced in season three and you both were like who's this guy? And why is he causing problems with Drummer? Knowing what's coming and seeing you two fall in love with his character arc and witness his heroic end, as I see the tears roll down your face I know that the writers have once again pulled off their magic! R.I.P. to best damn space pirate! Beltalowda! Season five is probably some of the best damn story telling I've ever seen on screen! I can't wait to share your journey. But know that I fear for you two! This will take its toll on you both!
Ashford's final moments were tragically touching but also practical because by singing he slowly expelled the air from his lungs which would prevent them bursting in the vacuum. Love your reactions. :)
Season 3: Best action, excitment, best thrills! I agree! However, Season 5 (6) has the best storytelling, best character development and best antagonist of the show. The love/hate relationship with Marco Inaros and the abillity to persaude people and to be always one step ahead of his enemys is what makes him an interesting Villian!
You girls want to see real terror reign throughout the galaxy, welcome to Season 5 of the Expanse. As Marco aptly put it, "You still can't see it can you? Can't even imagine it.... Even our dreams are small." Marco was speaking to Klaes, but he was also speaking to us. until you go through Season 5 there is no vision big enough to capture the intensity and heartbreak it brings. The challenge to every notion we had of order in the universe. IT"S ALL BEEN BROKEN. I know you girls will love it.
Marco is such a powerful and dangerous speaker he could make almost anyone walk into hellfire and become a Mrtyr for the cause. Which is why he's so f%^king dangerous.
On the pad when Bobbi was researching, the 'blond woman' as you said had the background of 'protomolecule working group'. She was part of the Mars group in contact with Mao. RIP Ashford. Goes out like a Badass.
High on my wish list for season 4, would be a bonus content scene depicting the last two interactions between Avasarala and Arjun, but with Brian George playing Arjun rather than the new guy. Considering how close they were in seasons 1&2, their estrangement would have been nothing less than shattering.
In the books Filip is about 13 but I think he's late teens in the show, maybe 17. The casting is just absolutely perfect. Not only is he a great actor (which I assume you've already found out by now) he looks exactly like what you'd expect from a union between Marco and Naomi.
The song Klaes sings is the Belter version of "The Ballad of Captain Kidd", it's the perfect song for the greatest Belter pirate to sing as he meets his end (also the song he used to sing to his child when putting them to bed).
Lola and Milena have such a deep understanding of storytelling, that it means they can predict things that us regular humans cannot! Lol Also, I would love for them to write their own show someday, because I am confident that it would be really good! : )
Interesting how in the book series Ashford was a real butthole. In the series David Strathairn gave the character his dimensions. In the end I really liked him.
I've never watched another adaptation where the show or move actually improves on the source material. The Expanse manages it with Ashford, Elvi, Prax, and Lucia/Basia. They are all better characters in the show than in the books (in my opinion).
Yes just Yes All I'm going to say is season 3 and season 5 are both tied at first place when I rank but for completely different reasons. Honestly though ranking all the seasons is very difficult because they are each perfect in their own way.
Bobbie's hand terminal had an important Chekov's Gun for the future. I figured Esai was dead when they showed his family and made him sympathetic. I think Murty's trip back to Earth was a cycle of beat-down/auto-doc, beat-down/auto-doc, beat-down/auto-doc all the way back. When Avasarala wrote her message to Nancy Gao, she was sitting at the ornate Resolute Desk. The Resolute Desk was build from the timbers of the old British exploration sailing ship HMS Resolute. British Queen Victoria gave the Resolute Desk to US President Rutherford Hayes in 1880. It has been used as the Oval Office desk by most US presidents since then. The tradition of the presidents is to leave a personal message to their successors in the desk as they leave office. That's what we see Avasarala doing here. Season three contained two book conclusions, so it's impossible to beat. Season one had no book conclusion, leaving it the least satisfying at its finale. Your discussions continue to be very interesting. Remember when Diogo was on his uncle Mateo's ship? Mateo had been listening to an OPA propagandist talking about hurling rocks at Earth...that's what gave him the idea to toss his rocks at the Martians.
I disagree re Murty. Amos does not hold grudges. He punishes someone, then moves on (Miller)/(Clarissa). Most Importantly, Holden Would Not Allow continuous torture.
The greater the human population and the higher the state of development in terms of urbaisation, road building, power generation, intensive agriculture and so on, the more vulnerable Earth's civilisation is, because it just means that there is less and less environmental redundant back-up. So smaller and smaller disruptions are required to destroy civilisation and trigger population collapse and even species extinction. But the problem on top of that is, the huge disruptions are still going to happen on the geological schedule - supervolcano eruptions, large asteroid impacts, mega-tsunamis and whatever Black Swan events I've forgotten.
Ashford didn't shoot, not only because Marco's son was there, but also/mainly because Filip is Naomi's son. Drummer told him that Marco was the father of Naomi's child.
Galaxy spanning is a bit of a stretch. I'm pretty sure the books said the 1300 systems were all within the same general area, a couple thousand lightyears or so.
Yeah I always assume everybody in the show is older than they look - even the belters who supposedly have a shorter life span than humans now. It's clear that people live longer, but even the belters probably look younger than they really are - they might have shorter life spans on average but people's ability to look younger and life more of their lives without disability or illness is probably better, the shorter average life span is probably mostly down to belters dying young doing dangerous work and frankly murdering each other. Chrisjen is probably like 80 years old or something, Bobbie is probably late 40's, Niaomi is probably late 30's maybe even early 40's - though they do say they had Filip young, who knows what counts as young to have kids in the belt.
This season 4 has grown more and more with each pass, they foreshadow so much. The only thing that bothers me is that the writters can only imagine a form of goverment that it's a total copy of the US presidential system. I know that it is an US series, but it feels a little bit disappointing that they can't envision another kind of democracy than the USA's presidential one. BSG did the same thing btw.
The UN does not have a US presidential system, though. It appears to be more of a hybrid system. Merely having the senior executive elected by popular vote doesn't make it the American system. There are other countries that have popular votes for the senior exective even though they have parliaments.
It's like... 200y+ after today. There is a huge probability that the UN system takes a lot from the previous major governement of the faction that weighted the most in the world before the unification. So... It's not a question of imagining a new type of system, rather than describing how this corrupt and complacent system was born through the US one. It's a whole critic.
Being whisked away from the debate by security sans explanation didn't help, but the point at which Avasarala really lost the election was in the debate when she fell into Nancy Gao's trap, favoring the status quo over much needed change. When the line for anything is so long that you can literally die of old age waiting your turn, the line is too damn long, and it's past time to explore new options.
honestly, though ... i don't understand why ashford didn't go ahead and pull the trigger on marco. surely he knew that marco would kill him, so why not just shoot? it would have given him a better chance of survival and taken out the system's biggest threat at the same time. the decision to just ... not shoot just confounds me. it was so unlike ashford to me. (p.s. i love this show with my whole life regardless of any questions i have, so there's that, lol)
(and, also, that would deviate so far away from the story lines in the books that it would never get back to them. i mean, birds gotta fly, marco gotta be smarmy and sleazy and last for another two arcs)
@@elkapro6534 well ... yes and no. the asteroid storyline would still play out. i can't think of ways to debate the other plot points without spoiling the upcoming reactions for these two beautiful and smart women ... so maybe i'll see ya after they wrap season five. 😏
Season 3 was amazing but, honestly, season 5... If there was a season 8, that might beat it, but for 1-6, 5 is my favorite, but very closely followed by 3. I can not wait.
Through YT clips I've developed a real respect for Mike. Not so much for Slippin' Jimmy. For all of me, I'd love a spin-off series: The Ermantraut Show. Just wall to wall Mike, with occasional cameos by BCS regulars.
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"One of us is wrong, I think it's you. But I hope it's me" This is one of my favorite quote from this show honestly.
Epic phrase.
Curiously I told a version of that to my ex-girlfriend once regarding Chavez (we are venezuelan) before leaving the country.
Sadly...
Especially since most of the fuqqery is built on people insisting they’re 100% in ideology and/or execution
“I worry about people who throw rocks”
-Chrisjen Avasarala Season 1 Episode 4
Really?
@@Saqux yep, you can go check. It's when she's on the roof with her grandson. Season 1 actual has a lot of litte hints towards Marco, Nomai's connection to him and the danger of asteroid strikes. That wasn't in the books
@@Saqux
Yep, and not only that, in S1 E1 Avasaralla says, "You were transporting stealth technology to someone in the Belt...Someone trusted you with the holy grail, the only question is, who was it?"
And now we know who THAT was... Marco was the villain from S1 E1 !
@@snarflcat6187 damn, ive watched expanse like 5 times but i never considered that
Ashford, went out like a boss. it was sad. i cried. He kept his dignity, far after he knew he was done. he stared death in the face, then hocked a giant, snot filled, mouthful of spit into deaths face, over pleaing desperately for his life, as those doors opened.
Ghost Knife Of Calisto, out.
The way he turns to face the opening airlock... Bossmang.
I loved the way they obscured Filip (who is probably between 16 & 18) in the meeting with Esai, on the dock, in the elevator and him swearing at Bobbie and in the blurred shot on Marco's ship before appearing to get the drop on Ashford. Also, lots of Easter eggs on Bobbie's handheld terminal. A very critical character is on her terminal as she is trying to research the people involved in the selling of Martian tech. These writers, producers and creators are amazing.
I must have missed it, who showed up?
@@mlgnerd13 probably someone named "Winston Duarte", it's only a name now, so don't look into it if you want to avoid spoilers.
48:16 "I literally don't know what's gonna happen now"
Paraphrasing Marco: "You see, this has always been a problem of our kind. Even our nightmares are small"
Klaes Ashford's death was so harrowing, so poignant so heartwrenching. I felt like I was punched in my chest and was left gasping for air. To know you're end is at hand and all you can do is sing your child's favorite song as you despair in the darkness of the void. What an end to a legend, The Knife of Kalisto is no more. Let's drink that bottle of earther whiskey Klay told us to enjoy when he got back.
Fun fact: Burn Gorman (Murtry) and Wes Chatham (Amos aka "My Best Boy") were so focused on that scene Gorman actually punched Chatham in the face. Gorman was so horrified with what he did, and Wes Chatham's response was "No, no! leave it in! That was great!"
Honestly some of the best acting is done during those moments when actors actually get hurt and work through it while the camera keeps rolling.
@@fakecubed Like Viggo Mortensen breaking his toe when kicking that helmet as Aragorn in Two Towers. He did not break character, but let out his pain by screaming and falling to his knees (not in the script!), as if in anguish over the hobbits‘ apparent deaths. They kept it in the finished movie.
Did you noticed that Bobbie actually met Naomi's son on Mars? Filip was the one we saw in the elevator that called Bobbie a bitch and set off the bomb.
To confirm, in the book Leviathan Wakes, Lopez says while interrogating Holden, “There are over thirty billion people on Earth.” That’s what the stakes are… well, that and anything that the Earth produces that can’t yet be made on Mars or beyond.
You two are going to love Season 5 and 6 so much
Yes, and they are going to hate Marco with every fiber of their beings.
The song Ashford was singing is a version of Sam Hall a song about a chimney sweep "that robbed great and small" and was hung for his crimes, originally Jack Hall who was hanged at Tyburn in 1707. In the 1840s the song was rewritten and performed on stage by music hall singer C.W. Ross who changed the title.
“Like I could feel the spaces, between things.” - Don't forget: Everything that we can see (in the universe), is just under 5% of what is believed to be there. 🤯
Also: That explosion of joy, at _that_ communication near the end - Thank you ladies, for the huge happy smile you brought to my face. 😊
If you go back to Season 1, Episode 1, you'll Chrisjen interrogated an OPA smuggler who got caught with stolen stealth tech from Mars. She was trying to find out who was behind it, as her biggest fears were 'people throwing rocks at Earth', and 'Mars sharing a toothbrush with the OPA'. Now both of those fears have come to pass, and the mastermind behind that original plot is finally revealed: Marco Inaros.
THIS IS COMPLETELY WRONG! That stealth tech was used to make Amun-Ra class stealth frigattes that destroyed Cantenbury and Donnager.
I don't think that's correct. It's there to show that OPA factions are very interested in obtaining Martian military tech, especially stealth composites. But that is not where Marco's faction obtained MCRN stealth tech. That smuggler likely was not part of Inaros' faction.
********** SPOILERS for S5 and S6 of The Expanse************
The source for stealth tech for the Inaros OPA faction is the Laconian conspirators within the MCRN, led by Duarte and Sauveterre. Their conspiracy formed AFTER the opening of the ring gates at the end of S3, and especially after the discovery of the abandoned ring builder shipyard in orbit of the planet that would later become Laconia. This faction of conspirators within the MCRN saw the writing on the wall as far as the future of Mars, decided to seize the advanced alien military tech and use Inaros' faction to sow chaos within the Sol System and paralyze the governments and militaries of Earth and Mars so that their conspiracy could make its move and safely "turtle" in the Laconian system until they could figure out how to exploit ring tech. In exchange for Inaros' cooperation, they provide him with generous amounts of military tech, including stealth composites and a number of advanced warships.
@@elkapro6534 Mao already had those ships built. He didn't need any more and he would have just gotten it or developed it himself. The OPA prisoner was working for Marcos. The books were already out and with this and Chrisjen's comment about people throwing rocks was foreshadowing this series of events. It's their "Winter is Coming".
@@artboymoy just, no.
Inaros story would never happen without Rings opening. He was pirate nobody in season 1, and he was still just a pawn of Duarte in seasons 4/5/6.
@@elkapro6534 THIS IS COMPLETELY WRONG. MAO ALREADY HAD STEALTH TECH, SO WHY WOULD HE HAVE TO STEAL IT !?!
THAT WAS MARCO !
So many great moments in this season finale! But to watch you two from the moment Ashford was introduced in season three and you both were like who's this guy? And why is he causing problems with Drummer? Knowing what's coming and seeing you two fall in love with his character arc and witness his heroic end, as I see the tears roll down your face I know that the writers have once again pulled off their magic! R.I.P. to best damn space pirate! Beltalowda!
Season five is probably some of the best damn story telling I've ever seen on screen! I can't wait to share your journey. But know that I fear for you two! This will take its toll on you both!
Marco's line "even our dreams are small" was said by the belter Avilasara tortured waaaay back in the very first episode of the first season 😲
What?!? Seriously? Mind blown 🤯
Ashford's final moments were tragically touching but also practical because by singing he slowly expelled the air from his lungs which would prevent them bursting in the vacuum. Love your reactions. :)
Season 3: Best action, excitment, best thrills! I agree!
However,
Season 5 (6) has the best storytelling, best character development and best antagonist of the show. The love/hate relationship with Marco Inaros and the abillity to persaude people and to be always one step ahead of his enemys is what makes him an interesting Villian!
I think Ashford didn't shoot because he thought it was more important to coax Marcos into giving away plans than it was to save his own life.
Lola: "I'm so sick of the tragedy"
Me: 😬
You girls want to see real terror reign throughout the galaxy, welcome to Season 5 of the Expanse. As Marco aptly put it, "You still can't see it can you? Can't even imagine it.... Even our dreams are small." Marco was speaking to Klaes, but he was also speaking to us. until you go through Season 5 there is no vision big enough to capture the intensity and heartbreak it brings. The challenge to every notion we had of order in the universe. IT"S ALL BEEN BROKEN. I know you girls will love it.
I'm very sad that this particular twist in the story was spoiled for me around season 2, by somebody who read the books.
Marco is such a powerful and dangerous speaker he could make almost anyone walk into hellfire and become a Mrtyr for the cause. Which is why he's so f%^king dangerous.
On the pad when Bobbi was researching, the 'blond woman' as you said had the background of 'protomolecule working group'. She was part of the Mars group in contact with Mao.
RIP Ashford. Goes out like a Badass.
Amos' "Thank you" was great. Now he can genuinely say that Murtry swung first. That grin was terrifying, the empty eyes...
Burn Gorman actually accidently hit Wes Chatham in the face during that scene. They kept the take because how great Wes' reaction was.
@@jrich749 Oh, that's cool! Thanks for the tidbit!
High on my wish list for season 4, would be a bonus content scene depicting the last two interactions between Avasarala and Arjun, but with Brian George playing Arjun rather than the new guy. Considering how close they were in seasons 1&2, their estrangement would have been nothing less than shattering.
In the books Filip is about 13 but I think he's late teens in the show, maybe 17. The casting is just absolutely perfect. Not only is he a great actor (which I assume you've already found out by now) he looks exactly like what you'd expect from a union between Marco and Naomi.
"All seasons are better than most shows." Fact!
The song Klaes sings is the Belter version of "The Ballad of Captain Kidd", it's the perfect song for the greatest Belter pirate to sing as he meets his end (also the song he used to sing to his child when putting them to bed).
The way these two have reacted to the show thus far, I can tell seasons 5 and 6 will be their favorite seasons.
Not surprised Milena loves S2, that's Bobbie's season.
Lola: I feel like we're gonna lose half of that 30 Billion
Milena: I don't think so
Book Readers: *Sweating*
Saying goodbye to two of my favorite characters, Ashford and Miller! :(
Lola and Milena have such a deep understanding of storytelling, that it means they can predict things that us regular humans cannot! Lol Also, I would love for them to write their own show someday, because I am confident that it would be really good! : )
So true
"us regular humans" - Who you callin' a human[!] 👽
😛
Interesting how in the book series Ashford was a real butthole. In the series David Strathairn gave the character his dimensions. In the end I really liked him.
I've never watched another adaptation where the show or move actually improves on the source material. The Expanse manages it with Ashford, Elvi, Prax, and Lucia/Basia. They are all better characters in the show than in the books (in my opinion).
@@ChipMatthews That's because the original authors worked on the show. They were able to improve on their own work.
@@ChipMatthews not to mention Drummer
It's crazy how much better the show made Ashford from the books
Yes just Yes
All I'm going to say is season 3 and season 5 are both tied at first place when I rank but for completely different reasons. Honestly though ranking all the seasons is very difficult because they are each perfect in their own way.
I haven't watched Expanse but I'm thinking to start just to watch your reactions 😂
Stayed up until 3 am binge watching these reactions. Totally worth it.
The song Ashford sang is the song he used to sing to his daughter and was previously referenced in the show.
Season 1, Episode 4 Christjen on her roof: "I worry about people who throw rocks." It all ties together.
Domonique Tipper who plays Naomi Nagata is 37 btw
Bobbie's hand terminal had an important Chekov's Gun for the future.
I figured Esai was dead when they showed his family and made him sympathetic.
I think Murty's trip back to Earth was a cycle of beat-down/auto-doc, beat-down/auto-doc, beat-down/auto-doc all the way back.
When Avasarala wrote her message to Nancy Gao, she was sitting at the ornate Resolute Desk. The Resolute Desk was build from the timbers of the old British exploration sailing ship HMS Resolute. British Queen Victoria gave the Resolute Desk to US President Rutherford Hayes in 1880. It has been used as the Oval Office desk by most US presidents since then. The tradition of the presidents is to leave a personal message to their successors in the desk as they leave office. That's what we see Avasarala doing here.
Season three contained two book conclusions, so it's impossible to beat. Season one had no book conclusion, leaving it the least satisfying at its finale.
Your discussions continue to be very interesting. Remember when Diogo was on his uncle Mateo's ship? Mateo had been listening to an OPA propagandist talking about hurling rocks at Earth...that's what gave him the idea to toss his rocks at the Martians.
I disagree re Murty. Amos does not hold grudges. He punishes someone, then moves on (Miller)/(Clarissa).
Most Importantly, Holden Would Not Allow continuous torture.
It's great fun watching you two react to the show. I always look forward to your reactions.
Congratulations for the 200K SUBS !!! well deserved :)
At least Lucia got away from a trial, something that everyone seemed to want a few episodes back...
Holden's out for her was excellent.
I'm so excited for you two to watch season 5.
The greater the human population and the higher the state of development in terms of urbaisation, road building, power generation, intensive agriculture and so on, the more vulnerable Earth's civilisation is, because it just means that there is less and less environmental redundant back-up. So smaller and smaller disruptions are required to destroy civilisation and trigger population collapse and even species extinction. But the problem on top of that is, the huge disruptions are still going to happen on the geological schedule - supervolcano eruptions, large asteroid impacts, mega-tsunamis and whatever Black Swan events I've forgotten.
Ashford didn't shoot, not only because Marco's son was there, but also/mainly because Filip is Naomi's son. Drummer told him that Marco was the father of Naomi's child.
The final moment in the episode when you realise not all the belters are the good guys just because they were the victims of oppression.
*JAJAJAJAJA* i don't even watch this but that thumbnail deserves a like anyway 😂😂😂
The next two seasons are also of the finest quality.
Aw... you know that Drummer is gonna be PISSED!
Season 5 is my second favorite
Galaxy spanning is a bit of a stretch. I'm pretty sure the books said the 1300 systems were all within the same general area, a couple thousand lightyears or so.
Goody, goody, goody! Let's go with season 5!
The thumbnail is epic 😂
If I were Amos (Wes Chatham), I'd be jetting to Serbia if I saw this.
Well Wes does have a wife and kids, but they should watch ua-cam.com/users/TYandThatGuy
"There are no men like me...only me." - Jaime Lannister
There is only Amos...
Go back and look at 15:55.
THATS PHILIP who killed Esai and set the bomb.
sadly that is something REALLY hard to spot on the first watch, but it is great 👌
@@Dene181 …which is exactly why we veterans clue the n00bz in… 😇
Yeah I always assume everybody in the show is older than they look - even the belters who supposedly have a shorter life span than humans now. It's clear that people live longer, but even the belters probably look younger than they really are - they might have shorter life spans on average but people's ability to look younger and life more of their lives without disability or illness is probably better, the shorter average life span is probably mostly down to belters dying young doing dangerous work and frankly murdering each other. Chrisjen is probably like 80 years old or something, Bobbie is probably late 40's, Niaomi is probably late 30's maybe even early 40's - though they do say they had Filip young, who knows what counts as young to have kids in the belt.
19:43 the nostril flares 🤣
I like when Murty gave Amos a reason to hit him. An Amos´ grin: Than you!
The dream of Mars isn't dead. It's about to be writ large!
This season 4 has grown more and more with each pass, they foreshadow so much.
The only thing that bothers me is that the writters can only imagine a form of goverment that it's a total copy of the US presidential system. I know that it is an US series, but it feels a little bit disappointing that they can't envision another kind of democracy than the USA's presidential one.
BSG did the same thing btw.
The UN does not have a US presidential system, though. It appears to be more of a hybrid system. Merely having the senior executive elected by popular vote doesn't make it the American system. There are other countries that have popular votes for the senior exective even though they have parliaments.
the globalists want a system where the UN rules every one. That's their agenda
It's like... 200y+ after today. There is a huge probability that the UN system takes a lot from the previous major governement of the faction that weighted the most in the world before the unification. So... It's not a question of imagining a new type of system, rather than describing how this corrupt and complacent system was born through the US one. It's a whole critic.
Being whisked away from the debate by security sans explanation didn't help, but the point at which Avasarala really lost the election was in the debate when she fell into Nancy Gao's trap, favoring the status quo over much needed change. When the line for anything is so long that you can literally die of old age waiting your turn, the line is too damn long, and it's past time to explore new options.
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Get ready, ladies! Because shit is about to shit the fan!
Where is Better Call Saul? :c
Hahaha one of the funniest thumbnails of the channel🤣
I see Better Call Saul 6x9 was so impressive that you forgot about next 2 episodes 😂
Why is Amos the one always getting shot?
Can't wait for season 5!!!
I adore your wonderful reaction my lovely Lola and Milena!! 🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️❤️
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Look at you guys.. fawning over Marco Inaros 😄
You need to check that guy who called Bobby a Bitch from the elevator ;)
Based on your Amos predictions for S5, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Did y’all stop watching the boys?
Yeah I think they said they were just too busy. They will return to it at some point though.
It will be such much more interesting from now on, love it! 👌😊
Next season is my favorite!!!!!! 😭😭😭
you are going to love season 5
I miss the BCS reactions 🥲
Better Call Saul?
Damn, you guys really like that show. I see this comment so often on almost every other video.
I've been checking every hour or so! They're two episodes behind now
@@_zurr not only do we like it, its turn should have come some time ago, and they have not uploaded, just expanse and fullmetal
I'm not done watching s5 yet, so yall are gonna have to slow down :D
honestly, though ... i don't understand why ashford didn't go ahead and pull the trigger on marco. surely he knew that marco would kill him, so why not just shoot? it would have given him a better chance of survival and taken out the system's biggest threat at the same time. the decision to just ... not shoot just confounds me. it was so unlike ashford to me. (p.s. i love this show with my whole life regardless of any questions i have, so there's that, lol)
(and, also, that would deviate so far away from the story lines in the books that it would never get back to them. i mean, birds gotta fly, marco gotta be smarmy and sleazy and last for another two arcs)
because Filip would take Marco's place, and nothing would change at least until mid season 5.
@@elkapro6534 well ... yes and no. the asteroid storyline would still play out. i can't think of ways to debate the other plot points without spoiling the upcoming reactions for these two beautiful and smart women ... so maybe i'll see ya after they wrap season five. 😏
Better call Saul!!!
Are u guys having problems watching better call saul? I'm eagerly anticipating your reactions to episodes 10 and 11
Imagine Ashford shot Marco, so Filip would have to take over for him.
So much crying coming in S5 and 6
would be cool to react "(The Expanse) Drummer and Ashford | Live as a Belter" by zurik23m
They should react to all the zurik23m Expanse tribute videos
@@Cbricklyne Their tear ducts would be broken but I agree
"Bosmang Camina Drummer - THE EXPANSE - For Beltalowda!" if you haven't seen it already 👌
where is BCS?
Season 3 was amazing but, honestly, season 5... If there was a season 8, that might beat it, but for 1-6, 5 is my favorite, but very closely followed by 3. I can not wait.
Berserk 1997 please
Season 2, Season 1, Season 3, Season 4, Season 5, Season 6 for me. Character building is not what I am looking for in a sci-fi show.
What about bcs??
Vacation...
Through YT clips I've developed a real respect for Mike. Not so much for Slippin' Jimmy. For all of me, I'd love a spin-off series: The Ermantraut Show. Just wall to wall Mike, with occasional cameos by BCS regulars.
Better call saul???? 💀💀💀
Ok, you're already two episodes behind on Better Call Saul. None of the other shows matter.
They’re on vacation. They explained in a previous episode.
@@ryankm4056 But they're doing other shows...
@@rong2912 these episodes were filmed before they went on vacation.
Quick style wedding dance reaction please please!!!!
"extraordinary attorney woo" reaction plz~~~
Better call saul reacion upload
Please watch the leftovers
the planet is a world city an Ecumenopolis
I like your reactions, I hope you can watch demon slayer / kimetsu no yaiba next time and give your reactions please