I've been going to or through Central Park for over 60 years. On Thanksgiving my daughter is coming to the city, and I'll take my grandson Nelson for his first stroll through Central Park.
Agree 100 percent on saving lives and returning gorgeous Central Park to it's original plans with those lovely bridges! Too bad Robert Moses felt he could change what Olmsted had originally designed! Moses almost wrecked Fire Island back in the 1960s by wanting to put in a highway thus destroying the natural beauty of Fire Island. Proof that too much greed and money can ruin what was originally intended! Used to live on the Upper East Side and miss NYC and beautiful Central Park...used to hang out there every weekend around Bethesda Fountain and the reservoir...also loved Shakespeare in the Park with the Belvedere Castle in the background...the perfect backdrop for historical dramas! Thanks for sharing!
Seneca Village was a settlement of mostly African American landowners in the borough of Manhattan in New York City, within present-day Central Park. The settlement was located on about 5 acres (2.0 ha) approximately bounded by where 82nd and 89th Streets and Seventh and Eighth Avenues would have been constructed. Seneca Village was founded in 1825 by free blacks, the first such community in the city. At its peak, the community had three churches, a school, and two cemeteries,[1] as well as 264 residents.[2] Later the settlement came to be inhabited by several other minorities, including Irish and German immigrants.[3] Seneca Village existed until 1857 when, through eminent domain, the villagers and other settlers in the area were ordered to leave and their houses torn down for the construction of Central Park.[4] The entirety of the village was dispersed except for one congregation that relocated,[5] and to date no descendants of Seneca Village have been identified.[6] Several vestiges of Seneca Village's existence have been found over the years, including two graves and a burial plot.[7] The settlement was largely forgotten until the publication of Roy Rosenzweig and Elizabeth Blackmar's book The Park and the People: A History of Central Park in 1992.[8] The Seneca Village Project was formed in 1998 to raise awareness of the village, and several archeological digs have been performed.[1] In 2001, a historical plaque was unveiled, commemorating the site where Seneca Village once stood.[9] The settlement was largely forgotten for more than a century after its demolition. Public attention to Seneca Village was invigorated after the publication of Roy Rosenzweig and Elizabeth Blackmar's 1992 book The Park and the People: A History of Central Park.[8] MemorialsEdit The Seneca Village Project was formed in 1998 as a collaboration between Cynthia Copeland of the New-York Historical Society; Nan Rothschild of Barnard College; and Diana Wall of City College of New York.[26][60] It is dedicated to raising awareness about Seneca Village's significance as a free, middle-class black community in 19th century New York City. The project facilitates educational programs, which engage school children, teachers and the general public, and bring Seneca Village into public knowledge.[26] In February 2001, former Parks Commissioner Henry Stern, State Senator David Paterson, Borough President C. Virginia Fields, and New York Historical Society Executive Director Betsy Gotbaum unveiled the Historical Sign commemorating the site where Seneca Village once stood.[5][15][61] The plaque is located near the modern-day Mariners Playground, near 85th Street and Central Park West.[8][9][62] In 2019, the city announced a request for proposals for a statue honoring the Lyons family, property owners in the village. The statue would be placed at 106th Street in the North Woods section of the park, and has received funding from several private donors including the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, Ford Foundation, JPB Foundation, and Laurie M. Tisch Illumination Fund.[63] Archaeological excavationsEdit Following a 1997 exhibition on the community at the New-York Historical Society, Wall, Rothschild, Copeland, and Herbert Seignoret decided to see if any archaeological traces of the village remained. They worked with local historians, churches and community groups to shape the direction of their research project on the site.[8] In June 2000, Wall, Rothschild, Copeland, and other researchers started performing imaging tests to determine if any traces of Seneca Village remained.[64] With student participation, the project conducted exhaustive archival research and preliminary remote sensing. Researchers used soil borings to identify promising areas with undisturbed soil. In 2005 the team performed ground-penetrating radar tests, successfully locating traces of Seneca Village. After extended discussions with the New York City Department of Parks and the Central Park Conservancy, officials granted permission for test excavations in the regions of the village most likely to contain intact archaeological deposits.[5] Digs took place in 2004,[18] August 2005,[18][65] and mid-2011.[8][18][66][67] The 2011 excavation uncovered the foundation walls and cellar deposits of the home of William Godfrey Wilson, a sexton for All Angels' Church,[68] and another important deposit from the backyard of two other Seneca Village residents. Archaeologists found over 250 bags of artifacts, including the bone handle of a toothbrush and the leather sole of a child's shoe.[18][67] The public location of the site in Central Park meant that guards monitored the site to ensure that it was undisturbed. Also, the archaeologists were asked to fill the holes they had dug and remove their equipment after each day of work.[67]
You would still have bicyclists, which imo, are the problem. These Spandex Speeders think the park is there for them to beat their personal best. They think they can go as fast as they want, as long as everyone else goes in the same direction. But it doesn't work that way because not everyone does. Duh!
This is what I call my sacred place, cause I come out here when I feel like being by myself. I used to come here with Karen Cross, she's kinda like my girlfriend, or used to be. We used to come out here and hold hands and talk and read books to each other with a flashlight. She don't wanna have nothing to do with me in front of people cause I don't have any money.
If you were to have taken my tour in Central Park, I would have mentioned it but this video was created in response to deaths caused by collisions within Central Park. The video is about the arches. Seneca Village, though an important piece of piece of New York City history, is unrelated to improving transportation infrastructure in the park.
I agree they should restore what they can of Central Park. I'm a former buffalonien, I was born and partly raised out in buffalo NY a couple years ago there was a bill to cut funding for some of buffalo's public parks, this was after we moved out to Dunkirk. Growing up where I lived Casanovia park use to be a every 2-3 day trip for me and my parents, we practically vacationed at the park just to get away from the hastles of life, soon after I got old enough to go places on my own 5 of my favorite places were a string of stores and places between home and the park Block buster "now closed for years" Dollar tree and Burger King and removed from the chain but way back in the parking lot was Aims "also closed for years which sucks because it was the discount Walmart of the area" number 5 on the list and just a little bit further down across the street was Cazenovia park it worries me that it was a public park and it could possibly be on the list, but on the other hand Cazenovia school was right on the edge of the park and they were landmarks because so many people played there and so many events like caz carnival happened there parades both started and ended there odds are because caz was so much so the life of the city of buffalo it was spared from the list, and hopefully instead of including it on the funding cut off list they made a new list of stuff they wanna fix and clean up and they've included Cazinovias fountain pool for the kids, I remember I use to love going there for the fountain pool then they decided to let it go and teenagers started using it for a skate park, a big crack appeared in the pool and it got so bad that crack stood up on itself. If I had the money and the knowledge that buffalo was cleaning up for the good of the people and that park was on a restoration project list I'd move back out there in a heartbeat just to go to that park everyday. I use to play on the swings and in the sand box on the teeter totter and the jungle gyms, me and my brother use to hang out by the creek. It's sad to know things may have gotten so bad and go so far down hill that buffalo is collapsing under the weight of what should be, it breaks my heart.
The Central Park Conservancy keeps renovating places they've just renovated and that were already in great shape like Belvedere Castle and the Dairy. Restoring the vision of Olmstead and Vaux while erasing as much as possible the damage done by Robert Moses sure seems like a better use of their money.
Robert Moses did some great Civil Design in NYC, but he was not an MTA fan. He had a chance to connect Brooklyn to Staten Island via the Verrazano Bridge by Subway ( like the Manhattan & Williamsburg Bridges ) but didn't. He also wanted to cut right through TriBeCa, SoHo, and Chinatown by building a freeway basically cutting right through Lower Manhattan. It would have been the Bronx Grand Councorce spanning all of Canal Street. Luckily that did not happen. That would have been great to take the Subway to Staten Island... It would also be great if the MTA would extend subway lines with dedicated stops at LaGuardia and JFK. I have taken the plane train once, but it was a hassle to connect back to the subway.
The lake at the beginning of this video is NOT Central park but Orbach Lake at Wm. H. Pouch scout camp on Staten Island NY. The near side is the swimming area and the far side is where the un-built section of Richmond Parkway was to be.
Since they banned cars from everything except a few blocks of the southeast corner on one of the roads, it's much safer for pedestrians. The only vehicles you'll see are official ones for employees doing maintenance. And as far as bicycles, it's not anywhere near as bad as people are saying. When you cross the street, use your eyes and look first. Pretty simple. The worst bikers are actually the tourists who rent the big clunky bikes and don't know how to ride them. But it would be cool to see some of those older bridges and tunnels resurrected.
Logic nobody was trying to make it into a racist situation. the loss of seneca village should be a sad thing for people of all races, it was a tragic loss of a historic place that had serious history.
If you would like to see how this should be done, talk to the people who designed the transportation web in a development called The Villages just off I-75 between Ocala and Tampa.
I just watched ''What's Hidden Beneath Central Park." As always, UA-cam titles make everything sound much, much more exciting than it turns out to be. There's nothing hidden under Cental Park. The only things this video was about was dismantling 19 century beautiful pedestrian bridges and how cross walks on the ground where people have to dodge traffic have, as a result, become much more dangerous. The clip is also about changing land in the park from one use to another where sheep. Sheep used to graze in Sheep Medow. Now people go there to sunbathe and hear concerts. Nothing is buried under Central Park. Nothing is even interesting about this clip no matter what UA-cam wants to name it to make us want to see it, hoping something really is buried under the park .
Under central park is the intersection of two massive water tunnels, in a giant room. There's an elevator to it somewhere in the park. Reporters were let in about 10 years ago.
Anyway, I'm to far, too old ,zndhzve a few money, but I'd like to go back one day to big apple, and spend some time i, CP, I really enjoy. Many thanks for thes (curious) explanations. Long live USA, NYC and Central Park. Friendly from France, a USA lover.
Central Park was originally Seneca Village. It was black owned residential property. Schools,stores and self-owned businesses were common. All done with hard work,and dedication. Most of them slaves whom fled from the South w/access throughout NYC. Instead they were driven out and then rebuilt as Central Park beginning in 1855. Sad but true.
"Another Robert Moses casualty" - All of New York City was a Robert Moses casualty. He was probably more to blame for the Dodgers leaving than Walter O'Malley.
Yes, the bridges are essential to greater pedestrian safety. It's a shame that they buried what were no doubt masterful construction. Back in those days the quality was superb both architectural and structural nd built to last.
Sorry but I wasn't complete -- end should read "structural and built to last." Add: Nice presentation. Thank you for sharing the facts of what's buried underneath the pathways traversed in Central Park.👍
It's there in pieces under the earth. Unless the city decides to dig it up, we'll not know the status. The previous park administrator didn't want to dig it up but it still may happen in the future.
Quick! If you happen to read this comment before watching the vid, run away while you still got the chance! Save 9 min and 18 seconds of your life like. Flee and dint look back!!!!!
We've actually had a new mayor for the past five years. Maybe you've heard of him, he's running for president. Don't take that to be an endorsement though.
A $29 lavaliere microphone would have saved the modern interview footage. So what was this exciting buried underground secret anyway? How did I miss that?
This is stupid they kick a bunch of people out of this area to make a park. To a modern-day visitor, the site of Seneca Village resembles much of its surrounding landscape: rolling hills, rock outcrops, and playgrounds. But what many do not realize is that this area near the Park’s West 85th Street entrance has an important history - more than 200 years ago, it was once home to Seneca Village, the largest community of African-American property owners in 19th-century New York City. The village existed between 1825 and 1857; by 1855, there were approximately 225 residents, which consisted of roughly two-thirds African Americans, one-third Irish immigrants, and a small number of Germans. As the first significant community of African-American property owners, Seneca Village provided residential stability. With property ownership came other rights not commonly held by African-Americans in the City - namely, the right to vote. When the City built Central Park, the Seneca Village residents were displaced and all traces of the settlement was lost to history. Since the 1990s, scholars and archeologists have been working to bring the history of this significant community to light. In June of 2011, a group called the Institute for the Exploration of Seneca Village History conducted an excavation at the Seneca Village site that uncovered stone foundation walls and thousands of artifacts from residents that offer valuable clues to unraveling the story of this community.
I am with you. Was expecting some interesting undeground structure, sealed of for years maybe. Well at least this guy "explain" how not many ppl today look for future. Back then they build bridges to separate pedestrians from other traffic, then in roder to help car they destroy some of them to only find out that was actualy bad idea so now they wanna put them back.
It's not misleading. Marble Arch is mentioned and it is below the park. Let me be totally clear, #blacklivesmatter. Seneca Village is super important. But, this video isn't about Seneca Village. The park goes from 59th Street to 110th Street. Seneca Village went from about 80th Street to 86th Street and was in the area where the western part of the park is. That doesn't minimize its importance. It was an enclave in a time that enclaves were crucial. Massive racism existed at the time. Far too much racism exists today. But, I'm not trying to ignore Seneca Village, it's simply not what I'm talking about in this video. There are lots of other things buried under the park. There are lots of other historical remnants in the park. There were lots of other things destroyed by the park. Again, none of that changes the importance of Seneca Village.
You failed to mention that people living in Seneca Village (now Central Park) were thrown out of their homes, schools, and businesses, by force and burtality, so that New York's elite could have a park. The park we now know as Central Park.
Too long winded so i couldnt watch, i just skipped through it after watching for 2 minutes with no hint as to what i "wouldn't believe" was under it to find out that its DUH DUH DUNNNNN... A tunnel. Yeah, properly can't believe that! Fucking amazing wonders behold.
As of 2019 the Legacy of these archways exist in the Grand Park, but unfortunately the inhabitants and visitors alike find them most useful as a convenient toilets. Thus they are used sporadically, for there proper purpose as a footpath... The Grand Park needs better and more Comfort Stations with adequate staff for monitoring security and of course the necessary cleaning... Currently they are far a part, difficult to find, and with rather sketchy individuals just hanging out... Not someplace where you would want to visit... You would think twice... Oh, I don't know, perhaps the City should offer Starbucks and others more opportunities in the park as long as they have the prerequisite of many, many toilets, which are cleaned and monitored and made available for the general public... I know, I know you can call me a capitalist pig, I get it, and thank you too.
You couldn't pay me to live in New York I've been gosh eight nine times I sent some time out on the point Montauk which I love that but New York City oh hell no I don't know how they survive I say that but I'm from I'm from Atlanta I was raised there as a young girl went to school there that's how I started my journey in life was in Atlanta Georgia outgrew it I'm a historian that live in Houston Texas and yeah I look back on my journey that it was slap the journey then I don't know how made it but I did. I truly believe God protects the ignorant because I was that girl until I got smart but I think that's everybody's Journey right that's how we grow that's how we learn and then I agree Atlanta and that's when I started my world travels travel the world I got all my diplomas that I'll ever need in life I went back to school but I'm pretty much down self-educated and I'm I am a very intelligent lady life turned me that way life has taught me everything that I know in my Journeys in life and the people that I have met and people that have touched my life and I have to say honestly everyone that I met I met for a reason and they did touch my life and I always had an instant rapport with them I want back and I'm very grateful I have no regrets not one cuz I believe I had to go through what I went through then to be where I'm at today in life and that's a good thing. Lights camera action
5:28 .. what's with that guys eyes??? ... look a bit swollen ... like his Mom just died or something :( ... plus??? What happened to his eye lashes .. they disappeared?? ... and sorry but his ears??? .. they belong on Star trek somewhere
Back in the 70s cars only went on the short bypass from west to east and vise versa. Where cycling and pedestrians were allowed there were only police vehicles. I guess they allowed cars to access the pedestrian walkways, they were wide enough for vehicles but the main reason the tunnels underneath the roadways were taken out was because women used to get raped and killed under those bridges.
Earlier designs are the base in engineering functionality, form that follows function. Later designs are mere alterations on anatomy that already existed. It is like giving a bowl resection on a obese human? Instead of losing weight, changing your diet, or creating new pathways that enhance the structural integrity Mosses decided to remove vital anatomy?
Oh for heavens' sake, build an underpass beneath the street or streets that are so dangerous. Here in Los Angeles we have had an underpass dividing Macarthur Park beneath Wilshire Blvd. since before I moved here in 1947. It can't be that difficult. Aren't the citizens of NewYork worth it?
The designers of Central Park didn't want statues in the park and one of the city's most influential park commissioners also felt the city should show more restraint in putting up statues. I tend to get upset when streets and bridges in NYC are renamed.
It is absolutely disgusting, tragic and criminal what was done to Americas cities in the 1950s 1960s amd 1970s... they were so beautiful before the civic vandals of the mid 20th century destrpyed them...
The city set up a police enforcement campaign multiple times. It hasn't solved the issue. Central Park is a masterpiece of design. If we were concerned about thrift, it would have never been built.
If the bicycles can't respect the pedestrians who can't walk or run fast enough to get out of the way of the bicycles then close the park to bicycles also. The streets DO NOT belong to the bicycles. Go ahead and troll me, i'll just ignore you and you will have just wasted your time.
They took a perfectly good classy themed hotel and ruined it, especially with that hideous giant tree root coming out of the lobby ceiling which used to be where they hung a big beautiful chandelier. And the new green and brown color scheme looks absolutely hideous as well
Also deep under CP, is Water Tunnel #3, and a valve chamber where it branches off to Queens.
I've been going to or through Central Park for over 60 years. On Thanksgiving my daughter is coming to the city, and I'll take my grandson Nelson for his first stroll through Central Park.
That Park is so Amazing... Wouldn't think that you'd see it there of all places.
Agree 100 percent on saving lives and returning gorgeous Central Park to it's original plans with those lovely bridges! Too bad Robert Moses felt he could change what Olmsted had originally designed! Moses almost wrecked Fire Island back in the 1960s by wanting to put in a highway thus destroying the natural beauty of Fire Island. Proof that too much greed and money can ruin what was originally intended! Used to live on the Upper East Side and miss NYC and beautiful Central Park...used to hang out there every weekend around Bethesda Fountain and the reservoir...also loved Shakespeare in the Park with the Belvedere Castle in the background...the perfect backdrop for historical dramas! Thanks for sharing!
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Seneca Village was a settlement of mostly African American landowners in the borough of Manhattan in New York City, within present-day Central Park. The settlement was located on about 5 acres (2.0 ha) approximately bounded by where 82nd and 89th Streets and Seventh and Eighth Avenues would have been constructed.
Seneca Village was founded in 1825 by free blacks, the first such community in the city. At its peak, the community had three churches, a school, and two cemeteries,[1] as well as 264 residents.[2] Later the settlement came to be inhabited by several other minorities, including Irish and German immigrants.[3] Seneca Village existed until 1857 when, through eminent domain, the villagers and other settlers in the area were ordered to leave and their houses torn down for the construction of Central Park.[4] The entirety of the village was dispersed except for one congregation that relocated,[5] and to date no descendants of Seneca Village have been identified.[6]
Several vestiges of Seneca Village's existence have been found over the years, including two graves and a burial plot.[7] The settlement was largely forgotten until the publication of Roy Rosenzweig and Elizabeth Blackmar's book The Park and the People: A History of Central Park in 1992.[8] The Seneca Village Project was formed in 1998 to raise awareness of the village, and several archeological digs have been performed.[1] In 2001, a historical plaque was unveiled, commemorating the site where Seneca Village once stood.[9]
The settlement was largely forgotten for more than a century after its demolition. Public attention to Seneca Village was invigorated after the publication of Roy Rosenzweig and Elizabeth Blackmar's 1992 book The Park and the People: A History of Central Park.[8]
MemorialsEdit
The Seneca Village Project was formed in 1998 as a collaboration between Cynthia Copeland of the New-York Historical Society; Nan Rothschild of Barnard College; and Diana Wall of City College of New York.[26][60] It is dedicated to raising awareness about Seneca Village's significance as a free, middle-class black community in 19th century New York City. The project facilitates educational programs, which engage school children, teachers and the general public, and bring Seneca Village into public knowledge.[26]
In February 2001, former Parks Commissioner Henry Stern, State Senator David Paterson, Borough President C. Virginia Fields, and New York Historical Society Executive Director Betsy Gotbaum unveiled the Historical Sign commemorating the site where Seneca Village once stood.[5][15][61] The plaque is located near the modern-day Mariners Playground, near 85th Street and Central Park West.[8][9][62]
In 2019, the city announced a request for proposals for a statue honoring the Lyons family, property owners in the village. The statue would be placed at 106th Street in the North Woods section of the park, and has received funding from several private donors including the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, Ford Foundation, JPB Foundation, and Laurie M. Tisch Illumination Fund.[63]
Archaeological excavationsEdit
Following a 1997 exhibition on the community at the New-York Historical Society, Wall, Rothschild, Copeland, and Herbert Seignoret decided to see if any archaeological traces of the village remained. They worked with local historians, churches and community groups to shape the direction of their research project on the site.[8] In June 2000, Wall, Rothschild, Copeland, and other researchers started performing imaging tests to determine if any traces of Seneca Village remained.[64] With student participation, the project conducted exhaustive archival research and preliminary remote sensing. Researchers used soil borings to identify promising areas with undisturbed soil. In 2005 the team performed ground-penetrating radar tests, successfully locating traces of Seneca Village. After extended discussions with the New York City Department of Parks and the Central Park Conservancy, officials granted permission for test excavations in the regions of the village most likely to contain intact archaeological deposits.[5]
Digs took place in 2004,[18] August 2005,[18][65] and mid-2011.[8][18][66][67] The 2011 excavation uncovered the foundation walls and cellar deposits of the home of William Godfrey Wilson, a sexton for All Angels' Church,[68] and another important deposit from the backyard of two other Seneca Village residents. Archaeologists found over 250 bags of artifacts, including the bone handle of a toothbrush and the leather sole of a child's shoe.[18][67] The public location of the site in Central Park meant that guards monitored the site to ensure that it was undisturbed. Also, the archaeologists were asked to fill the holes they had dug and remove their equipment after each day of work.[67]
SENECA PARK! ✊🏽
Straight up , they just gone pretend like that wasn't there before all this other ish .
In 2018, the problem was solved: NYC has formally, permanently, closed off the park to cars
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Not entirely. check this article out:
nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/01/09/city-must-protect-bicyclists-with-safe-routes-through-central-park/
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nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/01/09/city-must-protect-bicyclists-with-safe-routes-through-central-park/
There have still been collisions in the park since that time, sadly between cyclists, rollerbladers, and pedestrians.
...which is a bullshit idea.
Look up Seneca Village if you want the real history on Central Park.
Amen ! That's the TRUTH of " Central Park " .
pft. close the park to all motor vehicles and be done with it.
You would still have bicyclists, which imo, are the problem. These Spandex Speeders think the park is there for them to beat their personal best. They think they can go as fast as they want, as long as everyone else goes in the same direction. But it doesn't work that way because not everyone does. Duh!
Cymon Cyrado good luck we would still ride there if there’s a road to run on
billyfromtheusa cesspool maybe. But still the greatest cesspool in world 😎
How about you look both ways . Like your supposed to
@billyfromtheusa where do you live bud?
Seems like a no brainer. Here in Vegas they are building more and more arch type pedestrian crossings to keep people apart from traffic on the Strip.
This is what I call my sacred place, cause I come out here when I feel like being by myself. I used to come here with Karen Cross, she's kinda like my girlfriend, or used to be. We used to come out here and hold hands and talk and read books to each other with a flashlight. She don't wanna have nothing to do with me in front of people cause I don't have any money.
Seneca Village was here and the people were thown out of their homes. There are also Graves there and Central Park that are long forgotten.
the first 8 seconds is lake Orbach at Pouch Scout Camp on Staten Island
Great job everyone on completing the project.
Did they actually complete it?
Interesting you never mentioned SENECA VILLAGE the original community that existed there before the creation of the park.
If you were to have taken my tour in Central Park, I would have mentioned it but this video was created in response to deaths caused by collisions within Central Park. The video is about the arches. Seneca Village, though an important piece of piece of New York City history, is unrelated to improving transportation infrastructure in the park.
Sadly, Bob Moses ruined much of the city. He was unreasonably powerful.
Check out the "E. Michael Jones" lecture "the slaughter of cities" here on UA-cam. He did some amazing research and exposes Moses. It's fascinating.
Moses was pure evil.
I can't believe they buried that under there! Millions of lives have been saved !
I agree they should restore what they can of Central Park.
I'm a former buffalonien, I was born and partly raised out in buffalo NY a couple years ago there was a bill to cut funding for some of buffalo's public parks, this was after we moved out to Dunkirk.
Growing up where I lived Casanovia park use to be a every 2-3 day trip for me and my parents, we practically vacationed at the park just to get away from the hastles of life, soon after I got old enough to go places on my own 5 of my favorite places were a string of stores and places between home and the park Block buster "now closed for years" Dollar tree and Burger King and removed from the chain but way back in the parking lot was Aims "also closed for years which sucks because it was the discount Walmart of the area" number 5 on the list and just a little bit further down across the street was Cazenovia park it worries me that it was a public park and it could possibly be on the list, but on the other hand Cazenovia school was right on the edge of the park and they were landmarks because so many people played there and so many events like caz carnival happened there parades both started and ended there odds are because caz was so much so the life of the city of buffalo it was spared from the list, and hopefully instead of including it on the funding cut off list they made a new list of stuff they wanna fix and clean up and they've included Cazinovias fountain pool for the kids, I remember I use to love going there for the fountain pool then they decided to let it go and teenagers started using it for a skate park, a big crack appeared in the pool and it got so bad that crack stood up on itself.
If I had the money and the knowledge that buffalo was cleaning up for the good of the people and that park was on a restoration project list I'd move back out there in a heartbeat just to go to that park everyday.
I use to play on the swings and in the sand box on the teeter totter and the jungle gyms, me and my brother use to hang out by the creek.
It's sad to know things may have gotten so bad and go so far down hill that buffalo is collapsing under the weight of what should be, it breaks my heart.
The Central Park Conservancy keeps renovating places they've just renovated and that were already in great shape like Belvedere Castle and the Dairy. Restoring the vision of Olmstead and Vaux while erasing as much as possible the damage done by Robert Moses sure seems like a better use of their money.
Even after the sheep moved out and humans moved in, Sheep Meadow remains an appropriate name.
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It's rather simple. Politicians destroy everything that was designed to help people.
Leave it to any politician to fuckup anything good. That after all is the only thing that they are good at.
This use to be Seneca Village, they left that out 😑
Robert Moses did some great Civil Design in NYC, but he was not an MTA fan. He had a chance to connect Brooklyn to Staten Island via the Verrazano Bridge by Subway ( like the Manhattan & Williamsburg Bridges ) but didn't. He also wanted to cut right through TriBeCa, SoHo, and Chinatown by building a freeway basically cutting right through Lower Manhattan. It would have been the Bronx Grand Councorce spanning all of Canal Street. Luckily that did not happen. That would have been great to take the Subway to Staten Island... It would also be great if the MTA would extend subway lines with dedicated stops at LaGuardia and JFK. I have taken the plane train once, but it was a hassle to connect back to the subway.
The lake at the beginning of this video is NOT Central park but Orbach Lake at Wm. H. Pouch scout camp on Staten Island NY. The near side is the swimming area and the far side is where the un-built section of Richmond Parkway was to be.
Since they banned cars from everything except a few blocks of the southeast corner on one of the roads, it's much safer for pedestrians. The only vehicles you'll see are official ones for employees doing maintenance.
And as far as bicycles, it's not anywhere near as bad as people are saying. When you cross the street, use your eyes and look first. Pretty simple. The worst bikers are actually the tourists who rent the big clunky bikes and don't know how to ride them.
But it would be cool to see some of those older bridges and tunnels resurrected.
RIP Seneca Village
Oh fuck off, you self serving pretentious asses always trying to make simple things into racist situations.
Logic nobody was trying to make it into a racist situation. the loss of seneca village should be a sad thing for people of all races, it was a tragic loss of a historic place that had serious history.
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I only see one pretentious ass in these comments.
RIP Hooverville shanty shacks
You didn't mention that Central Park was previously a community if Black property / homeowners who were chased off of their land to make Central Park.
If you would like to see how this should be done, talk to the people who designed the transportation web in a development called The Villages just off I-75 between Ocala and Tampa.
Oh. Right. Where all the MAGA dopes ride around on golf carts. Please...
Also, yes!!! Restore the arches!
Thank you for this upload.
are they going to dig it up and restore the arch
I just watched ''What's Hidden Beneath Central Park." As always, UA-cam titles make everything sound much, much more exciting than it turns out to be. There's nothing hidden under Cental Park. The only things this video was about was dismantling 19 century beautiful pedestrian bridges and how cross walks on the ground where people have to dodge traffic have, as a result, become much more dangerous. The clip is also about changing land in the park from one use to another where sheep. Sheep used to graze in Sheep Medow. Now people go there to sunbathe and hear concerts.
Nothing is buried under Central Park. Nothing is even interesting about this clip no matter what UA-cam wants to name it to make us want to see it, hoping something really is buried under the park .
And an arch... wait for it, buried under the Park. 🙆♂️
Under central park is the intersection of two massive water tunnels, in a giant room. There's an elevator to it somewhere in the park. Reporters were let in about 10 years ago.
Anyway, I'm to far, too old ,zndhzve a few money, but I'd like to go back one day to big apple, and spend some time i, CP, I really enjoy.
Many thanks for thes (curious) explanations.
Long live USA, NYC and Central Park.
Friendly from France, a USA lover.
Central Park was originally Seneca Village. It was black owned residential property. Schools,stores and self-owned businesses were common. All done with hard work,and dedication. Most of them slaves whom fled from the South w/access throughout NYC. Instead they were driven out and then rebuilt as Central Park beginning in 1855. Sad but true.
"Another Robert Moses casualty" - All of New York City was a Robert Moses casualty. He was probably more to blame for the Dodgers leaving than Walter O'Malley.
I didn’t know that Central Park had a Marble Arch.
Hope it’s restored.
I agree with the restoration if it bettered the flow of people in the park. I miss elegance.
Simon and Garfunkel in the park was my first concert
The park is a treasure
My city of New York City is the best city on the entire WORLD!!!!
This video is 3 years old at this point and just what has been accomplished? The world wants to know.!!
nothing its 2018. what do you think people are going to do? ? ?. lmfao
Yes, the bridges are essential to greater pedestrian safety. It's a shame that they buried what were no doubt masterful construction. Back in those days the quality was superb both architectural and structural nd built to last.
Sorry but I wasn't complete -- end should read "structural and built to last." Add: Nice presentation. Thank you for sharing the facts of what's buried underneath the pathways traversed in Central Park.👍
Thank you for this wonderful video.
Thank you
it would be cool if we could uncover th ruins of the marble arch
I was their with the NPHS Marching Band for music festival in the NYC area an went to central park an I got hit 5 different times
Thank you Mr. Olmsted.
So the marble arch...is it is or is it ain't still there in some fashion?
It's there in pieces under the earth. Unless the city decides to dig it up, we'll not know the status. The previous park administrator didn't want to dig it up but it still may happen in the future.
Matt Falber - Historian! Hazah!
With all the billionaires in New York, they could get these pedestrian bridges and tunnels funded and completed in no time.
This does talk about whats under central park. The bridges etc that were buried. Sorry nothing more violent and gory.
Quick! If you happen to read this comment before watching the vid, run away while you still got the chance! Save 9 min and 18 seconds of your life like. Flee and dint look back!!!!!
Sorry you feel that way Cindy. We think it's pretty cool stuff!
Do they serve big sodas in the park or did the mayor ban that too.
We've actually had a new mayor for the past five years. Maybe you've heard of him, he's running for president. Don't take that to be an endorsement though.
A $29 lavaliere microphone would have saved the modern interview footage. So what was this exciting buried underground secret anyway? How did I miss that?
Largest mansion in world was there as other entrances were removed for subway. Now more likely nothing.
It's a pity that so few signed the petition!😵💫😳🥺😢
I am related to Frederic Law Olmsted. Never met him lol.
wow just awesome
This is stupid they kick a bunch of people out of this area to make a park.
To a modern-day visitor, the site of Seneca Village resembles much of its surrounding landscape: rolling hills, rock outcrops, and playgrounds. But what many do not realize is that this area near the Park’s West 85th Street entrance has an important history - more than 200 years ago, it was once home to Seneca Village, the largest community of African-American property owners in 19th-century New York City.
The village existed between 1825 and 1857; by 1855, there were approximately 225 residents, which consisted of roughly two-thirds African Americans, one-third Irish immigrants, and a small number of Germans. As the first significant community of African-American property owners, Seneca Village provided residential stability. With property ownership came other rights not commonly held by African-Americans in the City - namely, the right to vote.
When the City built Central Park, the Seneca Village residents were displaced and all traces of the settlement was lost to history. Since the 1990s, scholars and archeologists have been working to bring the history of this significant community to light. In June of 2011, a group called the Institute for the Exploration of Seneca Village History conducted an excavation at the Seneca Village site that uncovered stone foundation walls and thousands of artifacts from residents that offer valuable clues to unraveling the story of this community.
3:00 - An external mic. would have helped increase the audio quality of this man's speaking.
If you look closely, there's a mic clipped on the shirt. The audio track got corrupted somehow and we had to go with the camera mic. It is what it is
Yup...I've definitely smoked too much weed, why the fuck am I watching this?
sounds like it was narrated by the guy from HTME ?
Well, that was 9 minutes and eighteen seconds I'll never get back. Seriously.
tessamersus thank for watching
So you have no interest in history or culture. Where you expecting a video game?
exactly......I presume
I am with you. Was expecting some interesting undeground structure, sealed of for years maybe. Well at least this guy "explain" how not many ppl today look for future. Back then they build bridges to separate pedestrians from other traffic, then in roder to help car they destroy some of them to only find out that was actualy bad idea so now they wanna put them back.
@ tessamersus.. LMFAO!!!! I realized the exact same thing, but at four minutes and forty seconds into it. Holy crap dude.
Title misleading, Seneca Village was Not mentioned!
It's not misleading. Marble Arch is mentioned and it is below the park. Let me be totally clear, #blacklivesmatter. Seneca Village is super important. But, this video isn't about Seneca Village. The park goes from 59th Street to 110th Street. Seneca Village went from about 80th Street to 86th Street and was in the area where the western part of the park is. That doesn't minimize its importance. It was an enclave in a time that enclaves were crucial. Massive racism existed at the time. Far too much racism exists today. But, I'm not trying to ignore Seneca Village, it's simply not what I'm talking about in this video. There are lots of other things buried under the park. There are lots of other historical remnants in the park. There were lots of other things destroyed by the park. Again, none of that changes the importance of Seneca Village.
You failed to mention that people living in Seneca Village (now Central Park) were thrown out of their homes, schools, and businesses, by force and burtality, so that New York's elite could have a park. The park we now know as Central Park.
It was done brutaliy.
Too long winded so i couldnt watch, i just skipped through it after watching for 2 minutes with no hint as to what i "wouldn't believe" was under it to find out that its DUH DUH DUNNNNN... A tunnel. Yeah, properly can't believe that! Fucking amazing wonders behold.
GWPN I totally agree
3:47
Im amazed at how stupid I am for wasting 3 minutes watching the damn thing.
What did you expect? Aliens? :-D
yes i was hoping
my favorite place my husband takes me every year
You have to have a high clearance to know all this as it wasn't allowed for access out of European country or Russia or soviet.
It's horrible how Robert Moses destroyed so much including my husband's birthplace.
As of 2019 the Legacy of these archways exist in the Grand Park, but unfortunately the inhabitants and visitors alike find them most useful as a convenient toilets. Thus they are used sporadically, for there proper purpose as a footpath...
The Grand Park needs better and more Comfort Stations with adequate staff for monitoring security and of course the necessary cleaning... Currently they are far a part, difficult to find, and with rather sketchy individuals just hanging out... Not someplace where you would want to visit... You would think twice...
Oh, I don't know, perhaps the City should offer Starbucks and others more opportunities in the park as long as they have the prerequisite of many, many toilets, which are cleaned and monitored and made available for the general public...
I know, I know you can call me a capitalist pig, I get it, and thank you too.
from some of the comments here it seems like alot of people find this video at 3am. lmfao
They should do that to save lives
You couldn't pay me to live in New York I've been gosh eight nine times I sent some time out on the point Montauk which I love that but New York City oh hell no I don't know how they survive I say that but I'm from I'm from Atlanta I was raised there as a young girl went to school there that's how I started my journey in life was in Atlanta Georgia outgrew it I'm a historian that live in Houston Texas and yeah I look back on my journey that it was slap the journey then I don't know how made it but I did. I truly believe God protects the ignorant because I was that girl until I got smart but I think that's everybody's Journey right that's how we grow that's how we learn
and then I agree Atlanta and that's when I started my world travels travel the world I got all my diplomas that I'll ever need in life I went back to school but I'm pretty much down self-educated and I'm I am a very intelligent lady life turned me that way life has taught me everything that I know in my Journeys in life and the people that I have met and people that have touched my life and I have to say honestly everyone that I met I met for a reason and they did touch my life and I always had an instant rapport with them I want back and I'm very grateful I have no regrets not one cuz I believe I had to go through what I went through then to be where I'm at today in life and that's a good thing. Lights camera action
5:28 .. what's with that guys eyes??? ... look a bit swollen ... like his Mom just died or something :( ... plus??? What happened to his eye lashes .. they disappeared?? ... and sorry but his ears??? .. they belong on Star trek somewhere
Sure, build a sunken tunnel in Central Park with a water source or what most will know it as, a homeless shower.
The funny part is they don't tell who they stole the land from.
Thought u were gonna talk about the villages that were destroyed in order to build central park nevermind
He should have installed more restrooms. In the summer you can see women in the men's restrooms because there are not enough. What the heck.
Back in the 70s cars only went on the short bypass from west to east and vise versa. Where cycling and pedestrians were allowed there were only police vehicles. I guess they allowed cars to access the pedestrian walkways, they were wide enough for vehicles but the main reason the tunnels underneath the roadways were taken out was because women used to get raped and killed under those bridges.
i love how they make walking in Central Park sound as dangerous as a walk through Kabul
Its also a part of the erased passenger moving history..
In 1811 the New Madrid Earthquakes Started? Yet you say they designed the Park? Right?
Earlier designs are the base in engineering functionality, form that follows function. Later designs are mere alterations on anatomy that already existed. It is like giving a bowl resection on a obese human? Instead of losing weight, changing your diet, or creating new pathways that enhance the structural integrity Mosses decided to remove vital anatomy?
Audio too low for my system.
either re build all the overpasses or keep the park a real park and dont let cars drive through it!!!
Good idea for upgrades mabe you can donate the labor and money??
Oh for heavens' sake, build an underpass beneath the street or streets that are so dangerous. Here in Los Angeles we have had an underpass dividing Macarthur Park beneath Wilshire Blvd. since before I moved here in 1947. It can't be that difficult. Aren't the citizens of NewYork worth it?
I saw those statues, better tear 'em down.
The designers of Central Park didn't want statues in the park and one of the city's most influential park commissioners also felt the city should show more restraint in putting up statues. I tend to get upset when streets and bridges in NYC are renamed.
I agree
Central Park pop culture classic land market
It is absolutely disgusting, tragic and criminal what was done to Americas cities in the 1950s 1960s amd 1970s... they were so beautiful before the civic vandals of the mid 20th century destrpyed them...
DID I MISS SOMETHING WHATS BURIED UNDER THE PARK JIMMY HOFFOR ?
It seems you missed it.
It's Marble Arch.
Why unnecessarily spend more money when all that has to be done is to enforce the laws that go with both pedestrian and vehicular traffic?
The city set up a police enforcement campaign multiple times. It hasn't solved the issue. Central Park is a masterpiece of design. If we were concerned about thrift, it would have never been built.
A high energy bicycle accident? Thats a thing?
yes ask bono
High energy, due the fact Bono is over 80 courics in weight!
By the way he is speaking, he is not a native New Yorker.
yeah more like Conn.
Best of luck.
If the bicycles can't respect the pedestrians who can't walk or run fast enough to get out of the way of the bicycles then close the park to bicycles also. The streets DO NOT belong to the bicycles. Go ahead and troll me, i'll just ignore you and you will have just wasted your time.
so why don't they build arch ways now?
They took a perfectly good classy themed hotel and ruined it, especially with that hideous giant tree root coming out of the lobby ceiling which used to be where they hung a big beautiful chandelier. And the new green and brown color scheme looks absolutely hideous as well
Destroyed the aboriginal indigenous community of Seneca village to built central park