I really appreciate when people try to be neutral because it often requires an active effort to examine your own beliefs and that of others but when terrible ideas and ideologies attempt to show their ugly faces in near the legislative body of any nation they need to be called out regardless of neutrality so props to you on that
I can oft find neutrality in spite of ones beliefs is smth that actually can be more offputtin to me. Even here with Rewboss, i wudntve rly thowt of any of his vids as truly neutral without any consideration for his generally progressive views (which even when he's accused of bein too far right, are still generally progressive views; just maybe not "the most" progressive) If he was bein neutral on topics like the history of the rise of nazi power in Germany, that wud be extremely offputtin to me and wudve likely meant an unsubscribe. Bcuz exactly as you pt out, theres a time when neutralness must be removed; else it makes the audience more likely to believe youre their fellow X who stands for the thing that you shudntve been neutral about. Which results in the audience base becomin more full of extremists who have views you, the creator, openly disagree with; drivin away more likeminded folk, and makin it even more likely that a lack of neutralness from you will result in an implosion of your channel, esp in the comments section of the vid This is why i particularly love to see creators bring up their major complaints, as relates to "political" stuff, and makin it known to their audiences that there are some clear limits to where theyll be neutral I do generally prefer more left wing channels bcuz they are more likely to have ppl both in the audience and creatin them who call out actual injustices (see any bigotry, capitalism exploitin, etc) in the world; as opposed to perceived injustices (like thinkin queer ppl are pedos and need to be kept away from public view) based on fearmongerin and misinformation I know that most wud easily consider John Green a liberal, and thats true, but even he does come at stuff with his best attempts to at least explain the reasonin of the other side from a pt of neutrality Like when he called out major drug manufacturers for tryin to extend their copyrights and thus maximise their profits by chargin as much as they can for vitally necessary life savin medicine that cud, if not for capitalisms fault, stop 5 million ppl a yr from **dying** to tuberculosis; a curable disease, that we have the technology and the means to cure, but not the wherewithal. Not when megacorps hold the patents and dont feel a public pressure to put ppl over profits for once I dont truly come at this from a place of neutrality bcuz it enrages me so, but John still at least made a pt to explain how ofc thats what the drug companies are gonna do; they care only about profits and appeasin their shareholders. Its the system that causes the problem to exist, and while we can still blame the company; we shud also aknowledge how the systems need to be changed to prevent this entirely... Bcuz the capitalist companies dont care about anythin but profits And its even worse here given that the research fundin for the drug, that they now hold a patent on and have for decades, like all such research into meds; was overwhelmingly paid for by public funding, govt aid, our taxes. We the ppl paid for the drug, but they the company get control of the drug bcuz they provided the scientists, who we paid. In the case of bedaquiline, the drug in question, over 90% of its fundin came from the public. Theres no way to be truly neutral about the wrongness of a company, which paid a tenth of the fundin into its creation, gettin to hold a patent and then extend it further by usin a secondary patent for smth that was absolutely vital to the drugs use, but which gets to have a longer copyright bcuz of legal shenanigans... On a medicine which cud save millions of lives a yr in countries which are ravished by this disease that we in our ivory towers in Europe and North America need nvr fear, for we have simply all been vaccinated against such, despite the high cost of such. Capitalism values us more after all.
We (German citizens) just have to face the fact that there are people in Germany that are actively and seriously working to create a right-wing government (again). And we should not dismiss them as incompetent idiots! Back in the day, people didn't take the NSDAP seriously enough in its humble beginnings. And we are about to make that same mistake (again)! The AfD used to be a small idea... now they are raking in percent after percent... slowly, but increasingly... it's not funny anymore.
Over 20% depending on location. Why would you assume any specific group to be wrong before yourself? 20% left, 20% right - it feels perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@@romank90 I judge right and wrong according to my set of values and morals. And in my book, the values right wingers stand for are wrong. I’m not an authority in this of course, but I have my opinion. And luckily, most Germans share that sentiment… yet. And we lost that so-called balance once in the 1930s.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
@@StormGuy.Productionsjudging from this video alone. There is no left winged bias at all. The identitarian thing is scientifically stupid. I’m gonna watch some other videos to get what you mean
Why Greenpeace was involved: Correctiv has about 15 journalists altogether, so to cover a story this big, it was necessary to add more experienced investigative reporters to the team. Greenpeace has a team of professional investigative journalists and this team was recruited to the case.
The scary thing is that Austria seems to be a few years ahead of Germany in those developments. Herbert Kickl, leader of the right-wing FPÖ and ahead by quite a margin in election polling, was asked about that meeting in an interview on television. He said that he can't answer anything about it, because he wasn't there, but he still insisted the Identitäre Bewegung is just an NGO with a right-wing attitude and then openly confirmed that he agrees on stripping away citizenships of migrated citizens. The reporter pointed out that this wouldn't be possible within the human rights decleration (Austria outlaws dual-citizenship with only a very small number of exceptions, meaning those people wouldn't have a citizenship at all) and Kickl just stated that they will find a way to make it legal. And that was the most shocking thing: They're determined to find ways making things legal which are against human rights... ua-cam.com/video/XrFlar1S8z8/v-deo.html
Unfortunately I was observing that trend in Austrian politics for many years already - certainly more than 20 years. The Austrian president Kurt Waldheim wasn't an accident. And the FPÖ has been playing a quite strange role among political parties of Austria after WWII.
ofc Austria is a few years ahead. Austria did the whole 'continuous forming of _grand coalitions_ ' thing decades earlier than Merkel did in Germany thus forming a new party-political landscape and giving new far-right (much less so far-left) extremist parties an opportunity to rise. there will come a day like in Austria in the early 2000s when the major conservative party builds a government with the new far-right party like the ÖVP did with the FPÖ. then the foul corruption of their new ministers will rock the country. this all is going to happen as the voters are uneducated and frustrated enough to give their protest vote to criminal chancers, tricksters and demagogues
> openly confirmed that he agrees on stripping away citizenships of migrated citizens Quite specific migrated citizens though, which (from his words) despise Austria, its laws and culture, exploit its finances and basically failed to integrate.
The actual sickness is : If you have a problem with Germans being a minority in their own country and don’t want more Government control over everything…than you literally are the same thing as a N*z*. What a ridiculous time to be alive.
Meeting introduction: "how do we finish what our ancestors started 80 years ago?" Obviously, they were talking about how to make Germany self-reliable concerning its energy production.
i'm a follower of your channel for several years now, even though i rarely commentate. i think your analysis of the current polititcal situation here in germany has been spot on. it's not easy to stay objective on these topics, but you did it once again very well. keep it up. :)
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
@gtrdxz Yeah because right wingers don't "cancel" people... unless they're not white, immigrants, or any of the hundreds of traits that make people undesirable in their eyes lol
@@gtrdxz Oh bo ho 😂 ironically enough, they were the ones who promoted their own problems this time around. Don't know why they go on other people's when they know their biggest gaf. I state, let's get them in Texas too but they be cowards to call it out and it can definitely be easy on that end if they just allow the regional Spanish and natives and Irish/anglo take back reigns over the lower region they never had control over.
Ah yes, mankind doing its best again at slowly destroying the peaceful things they created with so much care and effort... Truly the cycle is repeating itself.
The AFD being split in moderates and right wing extremists is completely irrelevant. It's the far right extremist wing of the AFD telling the direction to go and making the decisions. The moderate wing is present only to feign adherance to our constitution.
The AfD has split itself multiple times. Each time it was the "moderates" leaving the party and trying to start their own short-lived movement, while the party went further and further into the extreme. It might be well off the constitutional spectrum before anyone of importance notices.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Unfortunatly, they don't admit or try to hide to be not united. And only cause they don't refuse their few extremists, the entire party is considered extremist.
Do you think these things are: (1) FracResrBkng/PrvteFdrIRsrv*. (2) GreatRast/1PoIeWrId/NW0. (3) That the Ger.BDran 500 Fake FrRcht Accs & cIick frms (I used to have an exmp). (4) Media CntrI (I used to have a longer MckngbrdSers; 5 exmps of speaking in unison (rn only have 2 & the admittance)). *They admitted they caused l929.
I cannot believe I heard here - an Austrian right wing speaking in a meeting in Germany 🤢🤮🤯 As an Austrian myself always challenging with the past my stomach is turning. Hitler was stripped off the austrian citizenship and gained his power in Germany - is the history repeating? In those days they german people always said too: it is not possible that such individuum can get the power - we have strong laws. Don’t care about him - it’s only a grouser. Please stand up - don’t let it repeat. Love from Austria 🇦🇹
If you happen to throw Sellner or any other right-wing nutjob out of your country, please don´t let them go to Germany. We don´t need another Austrian ruining both of our beautiful countries.
@@mikethespike7579 Hitler always wanted to go to Germany and gain the german citizenship. He went to Germany, a time later he joined the bavarian army in WW I. After the war he was prisoned in Germany and the german government wanted to deport him back to Austria. The Austrians knew him as a troublemaker (my grandfather told me he was also in jail in Austria) and refused to take him because he was about 10 years in Germany and joined a foreign army. So he was stateless till short before the election in Germany. He desperate wanted to get the german citizenship - because he couldn’t be elected without it. The Germans refused multiple times but with the help of friends and a trick he got it - I think only a few days before. My mother always said: We chaised him away - the Germans made him great.
So und nicht anders schließe ich mich deinen Worten an. Ich befürchte in 9 Jahren und 2 Wochen haben wir wieder einen Fackelzug durchs Brandenburger Tor wenn das so weiter geht. Wahrscheinlich noch getarnt als Kulturauslebung zum 100 jährigen.... Darf jeder selbst darüber nachdenken was gemeint ist 🤯
@@joachimfischer7444 Was meinen sie denn? Und kannst du sicher sein das zu wissen? Weiter noch: Ist es nicht grundsätzlich gruselig wenn der Geldadel und Rechtsextreme sich heimlich wie eine Geheimgesellschaf treffen um unter Ausschluss der Öffentlichkeit die Zukunft Deutschlands zu planen?
I am an immigrant, a well educated, highly skilled engineer. I studied here, paid taxes while as a student since I worked as well, and have been working full-time since 2019. I am damn sure, I have positively impacted the German system through my taxes, law abiding life and my output as an engineer in the German tech market. In return Germans or Germany has never been unfair to me in any way and I love the country and want to apply for citizenship ( my home country is not in emergency, or war torn or an unlivable place, in fact it's one of the fastest growing economies and in some aspects ahead of Germany, i.e. digitization). So it hurts to see that things are going south. BUT, on the other hand I also observe what SOME illegal immigrants are doing to the system. These actions are even visible on the streets and in day to day life. I feel annoyed and irritated as well because they have ABSOLUTELY zero respect for the law of the land, the culture of the land and the way of life here. Does that mean I support the right wing , absolutely not!! To me, the problem lies in the very aspect of humanity that humans are always attracted to the extremes of whatever. Balance is something that we never achieve. I hope and pray that I can grow old in Germany, and keep munching on my sauerkraut, steinoffen bread, and keep complaining about everything 😅
@@ankapabu2834 aber natürlich... Deutschland und die Deutschen sind immer nett zu mir gewesen... Auch mir tut es weh, wenn ich sehe, dass etwas in Deutschland falsch laüft...
@@Basicguy1798 Aber welche Partei soll man denn wählen, wenn gerade die Altparteien den deutschen Pass verschenken wollen und es auch keinen Einbürgerungstest mehr geben soll? Das was Martin Sellner in seinem Buch beschrieben hat über die Abschiebung in drei Schritten, betrifft die allermeisten Doppelpässler und Ausländer nicht. Es geht expliziet um die Menschen, welche erstens weder eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung haben noch einen anderen Status, welcher den Aufenthalt in Deutschland legitimieren würde und dazu kommt, dass es den ein oder anderen Menschen hierhin treibt, welcher die Demokratie ersetzen will. Also quasi in Deutschland leben will... ohne Deutschland. Laut unserer Verfassung ein No-Go.
@@newwaveinfantry8362 Ultimately? The person making the statement I guess? I don't really see that as an issue. If someone genuinely, based on facts, and having thought it through thinks both (or more) sides of an argument have a point. Fine. Nothing wrong with that. The problem is the tendency of some people to only ever position themselves in the center of any spectrum because they somehow think that's inherently where the reasonable logical position must be and that "they both have a point" applies to absolutely every situation ever.
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
I recently moved to German because I took a job. Your videos and shorts have been phenomenal to help me stay informed, especially since my German is still very bad, so It is difficult to read news in German.
I don't know if you know already, but if you want to stay up to date on german news you can watch/read DW news. They are producing news funded by the german taxpayer in many different languages including English and German. Might help you out :)
@@gfrewqpoiuYou are better off not taking anything german news gov funded too seriously, it always involves government narrative woven in as "debate subject".
I am really worried about how far they could take this if they ever gain power. I was born as a dual citizen so it would also affect me. But to be honest, if we ever get to this point I would probably leave Germany voluntarily.
So you are either US Murican, Israeli, Turkish or Swiss + German. Which one are you? Otherwise you are a criminal. Because even Iranian citizenship is taken off when becoming German. Even when Iran does not accept that.
Look locally, and pretend all those stars and stripes are schwarz-rot-gold. You will, _again_, say, "again, Germany?" It's happening throughout the West.
Lol - I get it's a joke, but Switzerland as radical centrist? Not really accurate (besides the location) - think farther right... though more right wing populist than authoritarian. @@Taalul
Andrew, I appreciate your strive for objectivity very much, and I think you are doing a very good job. Yet, as you said, sometimes you simply have to take a standpoint, because not doing so is chosing a side in itself. And again, you have made your standpoint very clear, and while marking it as definitely taking a side, you also have firmly based your arguments on facts and objective criteria. This is how responsible journalism should do political commentaries. Thank you and keep up the good work!
When I told my acquaintances and colleagues about my gut feelings regarding the far right wing and what they might possibly aim for, I was laughed at and got the reply that such a thing could never happen again because of Germany being a democracy. I looked at them in shock and disbelief. Their naivety was what irritated me. Now it seems to me that ABBA's song was right ("...the history book is repeating itself..").
If you want a particularly prescient ABBA song, I would suggest "The Piper". It's not widely known -- it was a track on the Super Trouper album -- but it's really dark.
Yes, history _is_ repeating itself - for instance in 2021/22 with that _invredible_ hatred against the _"unvaccinated!"_ Or right now, when there are muslim migrants ranting "Kill all jews" _in German streets!!!_
Now put things in perspective. Yes, we do have a big group of right wing radicals here. Yes, they have been growing in numbers during the last years. But no, they are by no means the majority. And no, our right to vote for other parties has not gone away yet. It is an awakening call, yes, but a radical right party can still be stopped by all democrats here.
@@yvonnehorde1097 In 1930, the NSDAP got just over 18% of the vote. In July 1932 they got 37%, in November 1932 they got 33%; and in March 1933 they got 44% of the vote, used a controversial decree to give themselves an absolute majority, started imprisoning opposition politicians, and dismantled the entire democratic system from inside. In the November 1933 election it was the only party on the ballot paper. All this despite repeated attempts by other parties to prevent a Nazi government, or at least one with Hitler as chancellor. At the moment, we have to hope that the democratic order is a little more robust this time around; but since one analysis has now shown how a single party could legally bypass the provisions of the Basic Law and give them the power to unilaterally change it, we also have to hope that whatever anti-democratic government gets in is too chaotic or too stupid to actually go through with it.
@@_jpg The point about cultural appropriation is what are you doing with it. It's true, that some identifying as left are a tad bit oversensitive. That's more a reason of they identify as left, without having an actual method to determine what is left. They see you wearing a beret and a striped shirt, despite not being french and they loose their shit. I identify as far left btw. and I hope it says something to you that I can identify that problem. On the other hand we have the Karl Mai Spiele in Germany about indigenes peoples of north america. Those are based on a romantic fantasy of what this culture looked to the author Karl Mai *and* the people participating in this trend tend to berate actual indigenous people who dare to criticise them, "because they want to protrait them positively". Cultural appropritation is therefore a complex topic with many angles and viewpoints. You can be right and wrong on very different levels and no one answer will always be correct.
Sadly there are countless expamples where cultures didnt mix but got destroyed by another one. The migration of the Indo-Europeans, the invasion of the Anglo-Saxons, the colonization of the Americas, the Islamization of Lebanon. In addition, the low birth rate of the original population compared to the immigrants leads to the original population disappearing completely over time.
Positiv überrascht von dem Kanal. And it helps talking about current things in Germany with acquaintances abroad with German roots who want to know a bit about topics in Germany. Viel Erfolg weiterhin!
And another thing to consider is where these people decided to hold that conference. Because not that far away is the Wannsee, where in 1942, another far-right group held a meeting together with similar ideas.
Props for avoiding the name of that right-wing part of the CDU/CSU. The term "Werteunion" (values union) is not a lot better than "Alternative für Deutschland" when it comes to false advertisement.
I think it fittingly points at the cultural secularism of German politics. The CDU is no longer discussing christian values and the only value we really have is liberalism wich is supposed to provide infinite space for all and everything. We have reached the point where Correctiv spreads the idea that sharia law is in line with democracy despite the European Court of Human Rights ruling the exact opposite.
well, thank you for being plain here. Clear and concise talk about where we are heading is absoluty imparative. And the massiv waves of Antifascist demonstrations are giving me a little hope that we might yet avoid turning the clock fully back a whole century. But as you said: this will take a lot of effort from all of us, not just a few demonstrations for a while....
@Th0rodin Then you are blind the clock was turn back to DDR Time a while ago. Democracy will come back only with the AFD. We have a antidemocracy Regime right now. The AFD is the only political party who adhere to German law.
I can remember protest signs from early in the Trump years with "Am I a white enough immigrant for you, Mr. President?" on them. Exaggeration then, perilously close to becoming reality in a lot of places now.
The danger of this becoming ideological purification is not small. Björn Höcke wrote in the book "Nie zweimal in denselben Fluss" that he not only thinks foreigners should leave, but that persons who don't protect our culture from islamization should go with them.
Wobei ich Islamisierung in der Tat auch sehr ablehnend gegenüberstehe. Wobei ich darunter nicht verstehe, dass ein paar mehr Leute mit muslimischen Hintergrund hier sind, aber Leute, die das Kalifat fordern, sind für mich nicht Flüchtlinge oder Immigranten, sondern Invasoren, auch wenn sie formal legal eingewandert sein sollten.
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 Yeah, we should have addressed that problem 20 or 30 years ago. Now we're in a mess. I honestly don't even know, how we can get out of this while keeping our own moral integrity intact.
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 No one in the rest of the republic, who is a democrat, supports islamism. That is just a right wing talking point to muddy the water like: "Oh, you are not with us? So you are in favor of islamisation!" when talking about if you just should straight up imprison every muslim or not. So the arguments aren't linked. It's strawmaning.
@charleswhite758 Since you mention India, right now their country is undergoing unrest and uncertainty with a Hindu nationalist party (BJP) overriding the rights of the hundreds of millions of Indians who are not ethnic or religious Hindus and normalising the view that they are "different" or "less committed to India" than "proper" Indians. So yes, these identitarian politics are incredibly reductive, offering no real solution beyond blind exclusionism and reactionary politics. If you want to do something about culture, you would volunteer at museums, at language institutes (perhaps help immigrants integrate, eh?), and at schools. If you cared about job availability, you would direct your anger at the incredibly small amount of companies that control a majority of your country's job market (and have used their position to outsource everything under the sun) rather than the families trying to make end's meet. And so on. Never stop looking for better solutions than the ones presented to you.
I liked your view on the matter, however, I think we should not look at the issue in a simplistic manner. I understand the examples of food you gave, but it would be very simplistic to reduce the cultural problems in Germany to this. I think there should be real talk between right and left in Germany on the political and social levels to understand the deep rooted fears and issues and not gloss them over with a food illustration. The reason I am saying this is because people who never voted AfD are voting for them because they have a real problem with how the country is going, especially with the issue of refugees and the cultural problems some cultures have brought to Germany. I mean sure, you're British, but you cannot say your culture is no different from a culture of certain people (not all) coming from Pakistan or some other Muslim country... With that said, I believe that diversity is a good thing when you respect the culture and traditions of the people hosting you and when you respect the rule of law and you are a productive part of society. BTW, this is coming from a Middle Easterner who lives in Germany. I came to Germany because it is Germany, I don't want it to become like the place I came from.
6:50 Okay, I was taken aback by everything... But this setence "The Cultural Purification of Germany" No, please for the love of God do not let any of these people gain any semblance of power
With no word did they ever talk about an ethnic reason for the proposed expulsions. It only affects illegal migrants and those not wanting to integrate into society.
We don't know what was or wasn't said at the meeting. We do know the main speaker was an Identitarian, and Identitarians believe in expelling people who are not culturally pure, regardless of whether or not they want to integrate.
explain that to finnish dude. Why surely you had some stupid implementation things in past but past is past and you have learned right? Its just slight curve towards right ok nothing to worry about. Past hick ups are past and you have learned from those I am sure that if you give this a honest try things will go way more smoothly. You never know until you try?
@@rewboss I listend to what the Identitarians want and they never propose getting rid of everyone no beeing ethnic german. What they want and what is completely reasonable is that germans should be the ethnic mayority in Germany same as swedes in Sweden or kenyans in Kenya.
The argument that this government would "make a mess of nearly everything it touched" is a convenient one. None of the conflicts that are currently breaking out in public are new. The problems currently being discussed in public, from the financing and subsidization of agriculture to the inadequate staffing and crumbling infrastructure of the German railroads, to the too hesitant legislative changes for framework conditions towards more climate protection and the dependence on fossil fuels revealed in the Ukraine war, to the financial restrictions on action imposed on the state by the so-called Schuldenbremse, all these problems have one thing in common: they were able to become so acute because the previous government put off pressing issues. Unpleasant conflicts were avoided and instead the impression was created that our collective social and individual actions could simply continue without major changes to our personal habits and without social change. The superimposition of several intensifying crises is now exposing the country's inability to have debated the necessary changes in good time and is therefore making us more vulnerable to simple populist pseudo-solutions. The Ampel may present an unfortunate picture with its conflicts, but at least it is not turning a blind eye every time, as was usual in the previous government. In fact, a lot of government decisions make me incredibly angry every day. But even with all the conflicts between the FDP and the Greens, for example, the course is being set at the working level in many unspectacular projects, as shown by a study by the Bertelsmann Foundation, which writes that the Ampel government has been more successful in delivering their promises at half time, than previous governments had been. To say they "make a mess of nearly everything they touch" is a really convenient excuse not to discuss the role of the media in the public discourse.
Sadly, the public really does not see it that way. If the economy is doing badly, it is always blamed on the current government, not any previous one. I honestly hope by now that next election either the AFD is banned from running or is somehow still blocked from getting into a coalition with the CDU, otherwise I will be seriously considering to move to my fiancée in the Baltics because she could not safely move here like we originally planned.
I heard about this a few days ago. My ears perked up when I heard the sentence "Austrian right wing activist speaking on a secret conference in Germany".... Yeah I think we had that before and it didn't go so well.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
The "secret meeting" wasn't that secret, because Martin Sellner read from his book to the audience. If it's so scandalous and important, then why did the media wait 46 days to inform the public? By the way, the people who attended the book-reading might press charges against the spyers, because the behavior was against the law.
People who have migrated to other countries but are not from war-affected areas should be allowed to return to their home countries and contribute to their development. On the other hand, those who have fled their nations due to ongoing wars should respect the laws of the host countries they have migrated to and not demand the same rights as the citizens of that country, and return home once peace is restored. They should focus on learning how to promote peace within their own nations and with their neighboring countries to prevent future wars and mass migration. It is crucial for them to return home and to hold their leaders accountable for development, especially in regions rich in resources like Africa and the Arab world.
And you are who to demand that my country is homophobic and misogynistic as f*ck and I will stay here or any other country that's not a sh;thole like my country of origin
Thank you for speaking out! I know full well what this might entail in future for you in the comments. So THANK YOU! We need to be speaking out against these things to make sure things are not repeating from near 100 years ago.
i know Martin Sellner. he is a known far-right activist in Germany, and especially in Austria. but i also think that Andrew exaggerates Sellners influence on the AfD a bit in this video here. the "Identitäre Bewegung" group isn't that big, even though still dangerous and probably well connected with other far-right groups. either way, we still should be cautious.
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That an Austrian is telling Germans how to get rid of unwanted people, is kind of funny and truly disturbing at the same time. He is by the way so right, that he is still banned from X .... which says a lot.
Doesn't anyone remember what happened the last time an Austrian said stuff like this? And doesn't this Austrian realise the irony in this ideal, clearing Germany of it's non-German residents would mean he would have to leave too.
Very good video. Thanks! I will not comment with my political points here (I fully support your arguments, though) in order to keep the comment section clear from this. I agree seeing warning signs in politics. Thes should be taken seriously in the future, as people are feeling less safe, due what is happening in the world, while having increasing costs for energy consumption and daily life. I hope the government acknowledges this and will react with the right decisions. History must not repeat.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
The increased popularity of the AfD is scaring me. While I am not muslim, I am an American citizen who had been saving and working up for over a year to move to Germany. I worry for my future self and all the other immigrants who just want to live in peace. As a side note, I find it a somewhat eerie coincidence that one of the AfD political activists is originally from Austria.
Since you are an American citizen, you have nothing to worry about. The issue are the terrorists who posed as refugees and have infiltrated in Germany.
Sehr sehr gut gesagt und in jeder Beziehung 100% auf den Punkt gebracht! 🤗 Dein Video war erholsam im Kontrast zu dem ganzen Geseier um besorgte Bürger und "Man darf doch die Enttäuschten nicht als rechts diffamieren!!1!".
Ganz genau! Man muss die "Enttäuschten" als "rechts" diffamieren, denn nur links ist lieb! So funktioniert schließlich Demokratie: Links = gut, rechts = böse! Ist doch wohl klar!
What I find very interesting and unfortunately have not really heard on the subject so far. Is that the plan discussed at this meeting is the madagascar plan of the nazis before the holocaust was decided.
*Please don't believe these toxic propaganda lies!* None of it is true!! It's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
This step is simply omitted, we compare to the Holocaust and the Wannseekonferenz directly. The madagascar plan is not very popular, not well known in Germany.
The AfD has moderate and radical factions? I would say it is more accurate to say that it has radical and extremist factions. The radicals may be "moderate" compared to the extremists, but I wouldn’t really call them "moderate" in any other context (and also have been getting less and less influential in the party over the years). Even the most "moderate" people in the AfD deny climate change, are "sceptical" of vaccines, want to crack down hard on immigration, particularly that of muslims, want massive cuts to the welfare state, and also endorse and defend pretty much everything the extremist wing of the party says and does and publicly deny that there is anything wrong with it. The most "moderate" AfD members may not have been recorded publicly saying that immigrants should be "shot" sent "to gas chambers" or "beat up back to Africa" (translated original statements from Beatrix von Storch, Christian Lüth and Dieter Görnert, all AfD), but that could be just as much a result of pure dumb luck for them as of them actually having more "moderate" ideology.
These are relative terms. The moderate faction is moderate relative to the average for the party, not for the entire political spectrum. When you drive your car in the right-hand lane of the autobahn, the left side of your car is further right than the right side of the car in the next lane. That doesn't mean your car has no left side.
@@rewboss Yes, of course I understood that. I was just noting how weird the term "moderate" now sounds when applied to the AfD, since there are no actual moderates left in the party. This is considering that it is quite common for wings of political parties to be referred to using terminology specific to that party depending on where its range of political positions is perceives to fall on the overall political spectrum, e.g. the Greens are usually divided into "realos" and "fundies"; it wouldn’t be inaccurate to talk of moderates and radicals, but people hardly ever do. Or the Republican party in the US, where it is by now probably most common and appropriate to distinguish between "trumpists" and "anti-trumpists". Using descriptors like "moderate" and "radical" irrespective of the party can be misleading in cases where either neither, or both, are actual political radicals. While it’s always possible for one group of people to be *more* radical than another (e.g. the extremist wing of the AfD is even more radical than the rest, who are "only" radical), that can easily be conflated with whether one considers either of them radicals or not.
And with anyone who, in the eyes of the regime, hasn't properly "assimilated" into the local culture. At some point, that might be said to include any and all dual citizens, or people who criticize aspects of German culture, or don't fully buy in to the regime's official doctrine. This is how it began before. There is no reason to think it won't happen again.
"Remigration" is just an euphemism for "deportation" and of cause the AFD ist talking about getting rid of EVERYBODY, who are not "pure" Germans. Everybody with an migratory background is a threat for the pureness of the german "ethnic" (race) in the eyes of the AFD. And this meeting in Potsdam proofs that once and for all
Yes, your videos have become more politic, and that is a good thing. Anyone should use their popularity to communicate what's going on and make a point for democracy. Greetings from Lübeck, Marcus
Wow!!!! Having visited Germany last in 2019, I’m not surprised that these “discussions” are taking place. Outside Berlin and Köln, I met some people with cultural ideas that clearly excluded immigrants from some cultures. It wasn’t even particular countries but cultures. So what is going to happen with the Turkish communities that have liven in Germany for many years??? How is going to do the work these people do seeing so many Germans see these mobs as “beneath them”. Perhaps this discussion is happening because the German economy is not apparently performing well. But hasn’t’t this same discussion happened recently the last time the German economy “went south”????? I believe this is just the latest incarnation of some Germans blaming the Auslanders for the country’s woes……. Andrew, vielen Dank für die Information. Grüße aus Australien. Tschüss.
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
The golden age in the Netherlands had anything to do with all the immigrants that fled to Netherlands. Immigrants make a country interesting. Some of our funniest comedians are children of immigrants. And we have saté, and the kapsalon and Fernandez.
@@gargoyle7863 Man suffers the most from the suffering he fears. How big is the probability something happening to you due to this people? These are irrational fears. The probability getting hit by a car is larger. The people who suffer from those fears, better seek some counselling.
@@jannetteberends8730 Humans are no robots. It's our instincts to asses how harmful other people might be because they are deliberate acting beings. Cars are not, they are objects only.
It's so weird to see that Austrian guy again. I saw a video about him 4 years ago and proceeded to forget about him because I thought he was not going to worth noting.
There is a clear difference between the cultures of europe and the cultures of the middle east. To say that because we have chips in the uk and it doesnt originate here doesnt mean a unique british culture hasnt been established.
@@rewboss I agree. Culture will change overtime however in my opinion it should have a sense of continuity. Replacing one culture with another is change, but there's no continuity of culture there, it's complete replacement.
Multiculturalism is to not require an individual to integrate. In places where foreigners have become a larger percentage of that area's population, the culture has been replaced overtime.
what are the Germans? the Germanic tribes that attacked the Romans? The Allemans who live in the southeast? The Bavarians, who historically belonged to the Austrians? The Slavic people who lived east of the Elbe and submitted to the Germanic peoples in order to have peace? The Danes who found themselves in the German Empire after the border was moved? The East Frisians who live west and east of the German-Dutch border? The Poles who found work in the Ruhr area? The Italians who run the ice cream parlors in the summer and whose fathers built our country? The Muslims who sell the delicious "German" Döner? The Muslim greengrocers who sell all kinds of vegetables? To name just a few...
"what are the Germans? " "The Italians who run the ice cream parlors in the summer and whose fathers built our country?" you answers your question already yourself
I always don't think it's the government who messed this up. At least not the current one. I see there are many people making them responsible for the issues in the country, but we are in a state of crisis, which is also because Germany failed to reduce dependency on russian energy, which is nit the current government's fault. What is the case though, is that whenever there's a crisis, people start to blame the government. There were also massive media campaigns in newspapers like the BILD, who made a series of Headlines and posts against the country's minister for the economy, Robert Habeck. This spoke to an already angry populace.
the difficulty for Germans is their complete subjugation towards ideology promoted from Washington and towards political goals of Washington that are incompatible with the goals of that people they are destined to perish ..and maybe they deserve it but the damage they will do to europe in their last years of existing is what is for me ...problematic
As someone whose personal ideology and beliefs do not align with any of the major or minor ideologies, I don't know how to feel about this, and the state of the world as a whole. Germany had been, at one point, the nation with the highest immigration in Europe, and, simultaneously, the highest rapes per capita in the world. Now, Sweden claims both those titles, which is very much proof that a lenient, open-border policy stance on immigration is linked directly to a rise in crime, let alone a housing crisis. I live in Australia, and we are currently facing a dire housing crisis, with a government that is trying to push through upwards of 1 MILLION immigrants in the next few years. It does not take a rocket-scientist to understand just how dangerous it is to let in immigrants without a SIGNIFICANT level of screening. Now, I should make myself clear, I believe this concept of preventing the mixing of cultures is absurd. I am by no means a racist or white supremacist. I am merely someone who sees things for how they are.
Immigration does not cause a rise in crime, improper integration does. Sweden does not put in the effort or make it easy for foreigners to integrate into their society. The U.S.A. makes it very easy and it goes well, most of our crime is not from first or second generation immigrants (but those who have been "Americans" for many generations).
Sweden has been the "rape capital" of Europe for literal decades before the immigration crisis. Yet the far right picked on that fact and decided to blame it on immigrants. You're facing a housing crisis because your country is not building houses and are letting greedy corporations keep the houses vacant in hopes of the house prices increasing. You claim that you're not racist or white supremacist, but quote literal neo nazis and the OLDEST racist trick in the book that "IMMIGRANTS ARE STEALING OUR JOBS AND HOUSES!!!" hysteria.
@@fortheloveofnoise uhm, what? sweden does not put in the effort? they were the most liberal in all of europe, feeding, paying and housing refugees while they (shouldve learned) swedish. the populace was welcoming and warm. sorry, if that didnt help, and it sure didnt, then nothing will. the main problem is the speed. integration can only be improper if its over 1000 people every month - germanys BAMF was helplessly overloaded most of the time since 2015. make a screening and limit migration to 1000 monthly and it could work
@@fortheloveofnoise proper integration cannot and will never happen at the pace and way it is done. It also assumes that the people arriving want to "integrate", which is just that - an assumption.
"I am merely someone who sees things for how they are". I'm not sure if you need glasses, if you need a course in basic statistic or if you just heard something and simply repeat it. But your whole argument is based on an allegedly correlation between high immigration and high rapes per capita. So how can it be that since 2004/5 the rapes per capita in Germany is going down strong and the immigration rate goes up strong since 2007/8. Sorry, but your precondition for your whole argument is week to non-existent. I see this style often and am very surprised that nearly nobody in the comments takes even 5 seconds to fact check the pre condition of a chain of arguments ... And I'm not even trying to ask how you correlate a housing crisis (what is that actually?) directly with an immigration rate. I'm still well aware of the "housing crisis" 2008 in the USA.
A politician, a business leader and a far right extremist walk into a hotel in germany. He orders a room for the night. I'm already sorry for where germany seems to be going the next decade.
Amen, brother! There's only one thing in History that always stays the same: the fact that history is about change all the time, always. Trying to 'freeze' and fix cultures in time is about as useful as trying to abolish gravity.
hot take: I don't think the current government is doing any worse than the ones before. There is also some external data suggesting the Ampel actually realised a lot more of their goals than most coalitions before them. And no, I didn't vote for them. Nor am I saying they're doing a good job. But I just don't see why the media is battering away at them constantly.
“Massive scale migrations of people is totally normal and historical and not a big deal!” First example is the literal genocide of a continents worth of people. Me: “Huh.”
When I heard about this meeting, I was deeply upset. Later on at least nobody can say "Oh, I didn't know about the ambitions of the AfD." ... If the AfD ever wins a federal election, I will leave Germany. My project employer at work is a Swedish company, maybe they will take me in or I have connections to Canada. I'd be thrown out of AfD-Germany even though I have no ethical background. Simply because I could still no longer feel safe. I like to share in public what I think about the AfD and right-wing radicalism in general and I'm gay, so I don't represent the "classic family image" and would therefore be very high up on the deportation list anyway. We've already joked sarcastically among our friends that at least we wouldn't have to worry about heating costs after deportation to the "model state" in North Africa.
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
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Rewboss emphasized that at this point, all we have are allegations and speculation. I wouldn't put it past the AfD (or at least those parts of it) to plan for deportations, mind you. But… allegations aren't "Mein Kampf" (which hardly anybody read back then).
I am a white American guy who has been living in Germany for more than a decade and speaks fluently, and at least in my experience we aren't really what right wingers really mean when they talk about foreigners. Or at least they talk about foreigners directly to me as if I don't really count as one. But I suppose that is something that can easily turn into "They came for the XYZ, and I said nothing." Anyway one of the reasons why right wing groups are getting traction is that there are some very real problems such as potential overloading of Social Services and subsidy funding problems. The AfD is discussing terrible, nationalistic, racist solutions to those problems, and nobody else is really discussing them at all. For example what to do with refugees and how to deal with funding refugee programs is a big issue whether or not you think it's a good idea to take them in. But the mainstream political position seems to be to just ignore that the system is overloaded entirely and frame wanting to even talk about it as being racist or xenophobic. I don't agree with the AfD or the right wing about the cause of the problems or the solutions, but I can see how if people find these problems serious they might be attracted to the only people who are really talking about them as if they are problems.
Astonishing analysis by an American. Actually AfD is more like US-Republicans; and germans never really like them as beeing old-fashioned or too religious. So I expected, AfD must look more "normal" to Americans. It's a bit like seeing problems where no problems are. It's impossible to solve imaginary problems based on feelings or rumors. And it's about beeing inpatient. Solutions that take 2 years are simple not accepted as solutions. This is what makes people radical.
@@holger_pI never said that AfD seemed "normal". Understanding the reasons for a group's existence is not the same thing as normalizing it or finding it to be normal or acceptable. I also find your characterization of "imaginary problems" and "seeing problems where no problems are" is a bit overly antagonistic. It is impossible to deradicalize somebody without even attempting to take them seriously or speak to them at eye-level.
@@holger_p And maybe to clarify my position a bit more: as long as people are willing to engage in good faith argument, I am willing to talk to them. There are a lot of people who are not AfD, and not even really radical who I have heard repeating AfD talking points. Should I just dismiss it as "Stammtischgeschwätz", or should I actually talk to them about it? One of those two things seems more productive than the other.
@@timseguine2 I told my expectations, added by my surprise you don't fullfill it. You know the fear to flight ? This is such kind of imaginary problems. It exists, yes, but at a very very low chance. If this is a reason for you to not fly, or shake legs while flying, you need psychotherapy. That's the kind of problems these right wing people have. They are unable to evaluate likelihood. Rate of murder goes permantly down in Germany in the last 20 years, or stays constant, but they tell you it's going to increase. They mutually confirm themselvese and so they start these kind of legends. (It has halfed in the last 20 years, from 400 to 200 - per year all over germany. If we had US-conditions it would be 5000, and USA is still not considered a dangerous country to live in) You cannot talk to people, if you have no common ground. If one is claiming "god made earth in 7 days" (not a popular thesis in germany), he will stay stuborn and there is no way to change his opinion. Talking is just completly useless. This is where a psychotherapist would come in, but you cannot apply them to 10 million people. The topic is, to remove brain-washing of people, that's a very tough job, actually nobody has a solution. Beeing right, or populistic to be exact, you follow the same strategy as religion. People just believe. No approach to come up with logic, facts or discussions.
@@timseguine2 "Good faith" is the reason of the problem, not the solution. You need people to reconsider themselve, people admitting, they might be wrong. Scientists are always able to do so, but those right people don't. Somebody telling you in good faith, that 2+2=5 are not worth, talking to, unless they are willing to learn and to correct themselves. But the approach of Populistic parties always is "It's good as you are", "Stay as you are", "It's not your fault", "It's somebody elses fault", etc. That's their believe. Nobody requires to understand anything, nobody needs to think. It's just about feeling good. It's as hard to change, as getting somebody away from drugs.
*Please don't believe these toxic propaganda lies!* None of it is true!! It's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
I am with patrickhanft here, saying that a lot of the mess we are currently facing is due to too much "Weiter so!" during the Merkel era and even the years before. Which too successfully secured wealth to the country, creating a false feeling of security, way too long. I think, currently, we are facing the following problem: Had the current crises hit all within the time of the CDU or the Great coalition of CDU/SPD, and would have exposed all the things that were in the wrong in the country at that time, people also would have protested, but they would have been able to turn either to the left OR to the right in order to do so. With a moderate leftist government in place that in addition somehow is very bad at selling their work even where they do succeed, and a far left that seems to have dissapointed, the only way people with moderate views can turn now is right. Or at least it is more likely that they will. I daresay that even a strong CDU would not be too good for the country, as more "Weiter so!" would certainly be detrimental. Unfortunately, they do not look too strong right now, and I think that at least some people know that a lot of the current mess was also a result of the previous governments. And there comes the so called "alternative". The whole situation is a veritable mess.
It's not the security missing, or you don't use the word very exact. What's gone stale is the quality of prediction, the forcastability of future is unsure, but not necessarily insecure. If people require the governement to influence the oil price or similiar, they are just nuts. Some believe they made inflation by purpose. And as more they mutually confirm this thinking, as more are going to believe it.
@@holger_p I agree that I was probably using the word in a wrong way. However, I was referring to the past more than to the present. Everyone felt that the future was indeed more predictable and that nothing too bad would be happening to us. So everybody felt - _safe_ , I guess would be the better word. And they wrongly assumed that this feeling was here to last. While actually it could have been foreseen that this was not the case as a decent part of the rest of the world was slowly crumbling.
@@marge2548 Yes, but your "feeling" is more like rumors, nobody made experiences. It's like they heard something by somebody, and missevaluate the likelihood of reoccurence. That's enough to loose the feeling of safety, but actually they are not loosing safety. The only real thing happening to everybody, is inflation, but that's also worldwide, not really local politics.
@@holger_p I completely agree. :) Maybe I did not get my point across very well. My impression is that people somehow connected "safety" with the idea that things would never change for us, as for too long, the (misleading) impression was created that this was what was going to happen. And then it didn't. Anyway, as I said: I am completely with you, here.
@@marge2548 Safety and Security is the same word in German, maybe It's my fault. People complain about both missing, but only safety loss, in matter of things are unpredictable changing, is real. While security/criminality is almost unchanged, but artificially blown up by right wing "prophets".
Spain wouldn't be Spain if we hadn't spent the last... uh... since the Peninsula first got two human tribes... mixing with anybody who happens along. For that matter, neither would Germany!
This is always the problem with these kind of zealots. What date are you going to put on the closing date for legally being part of the true people. The likes of Putin will use one date, others another date. I think it is an insane idea, but IF the leaders of the world could actually agree on a date, 1066, 1400, 1879, 1918, then it would still be a daft idea, but at least we would all know where we stand.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
So raping kids is fine to you becourse it has happened before? So everything that has happened in the past is ok to happen again, is that your opinion? Just becourse it happened once doesnt mean we should be fine with it happening again.
"A far right activist from Austria..." That reminds me of someone else from the same part of the world in the same occupation doing the same thing. It didn't end well...
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Isolated cultures. Hum... Easter Island maybe? The North Sentinelese. And the Inuit were pretty isolated too. However it is probably not a wise idea to take much inspiration from cultures of a couple of thousand people living quite that remotely.
@@ronin667 Not China. All Austronesian peoples (of which the Polynesians are a part) of today are thought to have originated in Taiwan, and some of them still live there.
I like the North Sentinelese: "in 2018 an American Christian missionary, 26-year-old John Chau, was killed after he illegally attempted to make contact with the islanders" (Wikipedia). Missionary-eating cannibals. That tribe must be protected at all cost!
An Austrian coming to the potsdam to pitch the idea for deportation sure sounds like something a really bad fiction writer would use as the prelude to the novels third world war, yet here we are. Seems like History is far less creative and much more repetitive then we think.
ah yes..germans ..from wanting to end some European populations in name of ideology ..to wanting to end all European populations in name of ideology and as always "they do not know " and all folks opposing the government are "extremists" opposed to the very existence of the society
I really appreciate when people try to be neutral because it often requires an active effort to examine your own beliefs and that of others but when terrible ideas and ideologies attempt to show their ugly faces in near the legislative body of any nation they need to be called out regardless of neutrality so props to you on that
I can oft find neutrality in spite of ones beliefs is smth that actually can be more offputtin to me.
Even here with Rewboss, i wudntve rly thowt of any of his vids as truly neutral without any consideration for his generally progressive views (which even when he's accused of bein too far right, are still generally progressive views; just maybe not "the most" progressive)
If he was bein neutral on topics like the history of the rise of nazi power in Germany, that wud be extremely offputtin to me and wudve likely meant an unsubscribe.
Bcuz exactly as you pt out, theres a time when neutralness must be removed; else it makes the audience more likely to believe youre their fellow X who stands for the thing that you shudntve been neutral about.
Which results in the audience base becomin more full of extremists who have views you, the creator, openly disagree with; drivin away more likeminded folk, and makin it even more likely that a lack of neutralness from you will result in an implosion of your channel, esp in the comments section of the vid
This is why i particularly love to see creators bring up their major complaints, as relates to "political" stuff, and makin it known to their audiences that there are some clear limits to where theyll be neutral
I do generally prefer more left wing channels bcuz they are more likely to have ppl both in the audience and creatin them who call out actual injustices (see any bigotry, capitalism exploitin, etc) in the world; as opposed to perceived injustices (like thinkin queer ppl are pedos and need to be kept away from public view) based on fearmongerin and misinformation
I know that most wud easily consider John Green a liberal, and thats true, but even he does come at stuff with his best attempts to at least explain the reasonin of the other side from a pt of neutrality
Like when he called out major drug manufacturers for tryin to extend their copyrights and thus maximise their profits by chargin as much as they can for vitally necessary life savin medicine that cud, if not for capitalisms fault, stop 5 million ppl a yr from **dying** to tuberculosis; a curable disease, that we have the technology and the means to cure, but not the wherewithal. Not when megacorps hold the patents and dont feel a public pressure to put ppl over profits for once
I dont truly come at this from a place of neutrality bcuz it enrages me so, but John still at least made a pt to explain how ofc thats what the drug companies are gonna do; they care only about profits and appeasin their shareholders. Its the system that causes the problem to exist, and while we can still blame the company; we shud also aknowledge how the systems need to be changed to prevent this entirely... Bcuz the capitalist companies dont care about anythin but profits
And its even worse here given that the research fundin for the drug, that they now hold a patent on and have for decades, like all such research into meds; was overwhelmingly paid for by public funding, govt aid, our taxes. We the ppl paid for the drug, but they the company get control of the drug bcuz they provided the scientists, who we paid.
In the case of bedaquiline, the drug in question, over 90% of its fundin came from the public.
Theres no way to be truly neutral about the wrongness of a company, which paid a tenth of the fundin into its creation, gettin to hold a patent and then extend it further by usin a secondary patent for smth that was absolutely vital to the drugs use, but which gets to have a longer copyright bcuz of legal shenanigans...
On a medicine which cud save millions of lives a yr in countries which are ravished by this disease that we in our ivory towers in Europe and North America need nvr fear, for we have simply all been vaccinated against such, despite the high cost of such. Capitalism values us more after all.
@@SylviaRustyFaenobody is reading all that
@@ismailucar20 As a person who normally tries to read long comments, even I have to agree.
Perfect comment, one could think it were written by an AI
@@ismailucar20 Whatevs, some folk will and i aint writin it for folk who cant stand readin a long comment
Far-right activist from Austria speaking at secret meetings in Germany?
I love the 20s
100 Years and once again were here
We (German citizens) just have to face the fact that there are people in Germany that are actively and seriously working to create a right-wing government (again). And we should not dismiss them as incompetent idiots! Back in the day, people didn't take the NSDAP seriously enough in its humble beginnings. And we are about to make that same mistake (again)!
The AfD used to be a small idea... now they are raking in percent after percent... slowly, but increasingly... it's not funny anymore.
But they are so wrong in so many things - I just can't take them serious at all.
@@gruffelo6945
They are only wrong from your point of view.
To ~10-15% of Germans, they are not wrong… they are… right (pun intended).
Over 20% depending on location. Why would you assume any specific group to be wrong before yourself? 20% left, 20% right - it feels perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
20%? Try 30%+ in eastern Germany@@romank90
@@romank90
I judge right and wrong according to my set of values and morals. And in my book, the values right wingers stand for are wrong.
I’m not an authority in this of course, but I have my opinion. And luckily, most Germans share that sentiment… yet.
And we lost that so-called balance once in the 1930s.
This channel has been my greatest source for easily digestable lessons on german culture
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
he obviously has a very strong left wing bias
@@StormGuy.Productions We're pushed to it by the evils of the far right, lad.
@@StormGuy.Productions yeah but UA-cam has that too
@@StormGuy.Productionsjudging from this video alone. There is no left winged bias at all. The identitarian thing is scientifically stupid. I’m gonna watch some other videos to get what you mean
a far right activist from Austria
oh no, not again ...
You really can't make this shit up
It’s always the Austrians that decide to meddle in German politics hahaha
I've also seen that hairstyle before I think.
Maybe he should take up a nice soothing hobby to chill out a bit. Painting landscapes, perhaps?
You guys are awersome 😂 Well done
Why Greenpeace was involved: Correctiv has about 15 journalists altogether, so to cover a story this big, it was necessary to add more experienced investigative reporters to the team. Greenpeace has a team of professional investigative journalists and this team was recruited to the case.
Ah, that makes sense, thanks.
The scary thing is that Austria seems to be a few years ahead of Germany in those developments. Herbert Kickl, leader of the right-wing FPÖ and ahead by quite a margin in election polling, was asked about that meeting in an interview on television. He said that he can't answer anything about it, because he wasn't there, but he still insisted the Identitäre Bewegung is just an NGO with a right-wing attitude and then openly confirmed that he agrees on stripping away citizenships of migrated citizens. The reporter pointed out that this wouldn't be possible within the human rights decleration (Austria outlaws dual-citizenship with only a very small number of exceptions, meaning those people wouldn't have a citizenship at all) and Kickl just stated that they will find a way to make it legal. And that was the most shocking thing: They're determined to find ways making things legal which are against human rights...
ua-cam.com/video/XrFlar1S8z8/v-deo.html
Unfortunately I was observing that trend in Austrian politics for many years already - certainly more than 20 years.
The Austrian president Kurt Waldheim wasn't an accident.
And the FPÖ has been playing a quite strange role among political parties of Austria after WWII.
ofc Austria is a few years ahead. Austria did the whole 'continuous forming of _grand coalitions_ ' thing decades earlier than Merkel did in Germany thus forming a new party-political landscape and giving new far-right (much less so far-left) extremist parties an opportunity to rise. there will come a day like in Austria in the early 2000s when the major conservative party builds a government with the new far-right party like the ÖVP did with the FPÖ.
then the foul corruption of their new ministers will rock the country. this all is going to happen as the voters are uneducated and frustrated enough to give their protest vote to criminal chancers, tricksters and demagogues
@@michaelburggraf2822And especially after Haider took over the party. By name it is the liberal party, but it's definitely nowhere near liberalism...
This proves Austria is always responsible for the bad things in Germany 😂 When WWIII comes, we have will have them to blame
> openly confirmed that he agrees on stripping away citizenships of migrated citizens
Quite specific migrated citizens though, which (from his words) despise Austria, its laws and culture, exploit its finances and basically failed to integrate.
Thank you for what you do! A German who watches you because I do not dare to look direkty at German politics right now for fear of getting sick.
I agree so much. There are so many things happening where I wonder if throwing up is a valid reaction
@@PatataMaxtexgeil dragoran
Agreed. It´s madness at this point.
...but therefore I can´t just turn a blind-eye.
The actual sickness is : If you have a problem with Germans being a minority in their own country and don’t want more Government control over everything…than you literally are the same thing as a N*z*. What a ridiculous time to be alive.
Meeting introduction: "how do we finish what our ancestors started 80 years ago?"
Obviously, they were talking about how to make Germany self-reliable concerning its energy production.
i'm a follower of your channel for several years now, even though i rarely commentate.
i think your analysis of the current polititcal situation here in germany has been spot on. it's not easy to stay objective on these topics, but you did it once again very well.
keep it up. :)
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Germany has been destroyed by migration
Berlin is no longer a German city
He is just repeating left wing propaganda which includes lying about this very topic.
“Right wing activist from Austria” should always be a concerning statement
Naw, but based off the current leftist position of cancelling people... he may get rejected from art school 🤣
@@gtrdxz serious leftists don’t cancel people. Fake leftists who just repeat what they hear on twitter do
They need to get in to art school😂
@gtrdxz Yeah because right wingers don't "cancel" people... unless they're not white, immigrants, or any of the hundreds of traits that make people undesirable in their eyes lol
@@gtrdxz Oh bo ho 😂 ironically enough, they were the ones who promoted their own problems this time around. Don't know why they go on other people's when they know their biggest gaf. I state, let's get them in Texas too but they be cowards to call it out and it can definitely be easy on that end if they just allow the regional Spanish and natives and Irish/anglo take back reigns over the lower region they never had control over.
04:43 "Should we all squeeze ourselves into Ukraine and return the rest of Europe to the Basques?!"
Me, a Basque, listening: Free real estate? 👀
Ah yes, mankind doing its best again at slowly destroying the peaceful things they created with so much care and effort... Truly the cycle is repeating itself.
The AFD being split in moderates and right wing extremists is completely irrelevant. It's the far right extremist wing of the AFD telling the direction to go and making the decisions. The moderate wing is present only to feign adherance to our constitution.
The AfD has split itself multiple times. Each time it was the "moderates" leaving the party and trying to start their own short-lived movement, while the party went further and further into the extreme. It might be well off the constitutional spectrum before anyone of importance notices.
The "moderates" that left the AfD used to be the extremists until more extreme people took over.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Unfortunatly, they don't admit or try to hide to be not united. And only cause they don't refuse their few extremists, the entire party is considered extremist.
@@holger_p It's not "a few extremists." The party is dominated by them.
I appreciate you touching on controversial topics like this. The current situation looks quite dangerous to me
Do you really, really think so?
What about the fact I can’t post my comment?
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I cannot believe I heard here - an Austrian right wing speaking in a meeting in Germany 🤢🤮🤯
As an Austrian myself always challenging with the past my stomach is turning.
Hitler was stripped off the austrian citizenship and gained his power in Germany - is the history repeating?
In those days they german people always said too: it is not possible that such individuum can get the power - we have strong laws.
Don’t care about him - it’s only a grouser.
Please stand up - don’t let it repeat.
Love from Austria 🇦🇹
If you happen to throw Sellner or any other right-wing nutjob out of your country, please don´t let them go to Germany. We don´t need another Austrian ruining both of our beautiful countries.
Hitler stripped of his Austrian citizenship? That's new to me. Maybe that's the reason why most Austrians steadfastly claim that he wasn't Austrian.
Nah it wont go wrong this time you surely have learned from past hick ups. Just give it another try
@@mikethespike7579 Hitler always wanted to go to Germany and gain the german citizenship. He went to Germany, a time later he joined the bavarian army in WW I. After the war he was prisoned in Germany and the german government wanted to deport him back to Austria. The Austrians knew him as a troublemaker (my grandfather told me he was also in jail in Austria) and refused to take him because he was about 10 years in Germany and joined a foreign army.
So he was stateless till short before the election in Germany. He desperate wanted to get the german citizenship - because he couldn’t be elected without it.
The Germans refused multiple times but with the help of friends and a trick he got it - I think only a few days before.
My mother always said: We chaised him away - the Germans made him great.
^^ der Gockel gibt hier schonmal das beste Beispiel, dass Dummheit nicht gesetzlich verboten werden kann... 🤔🤷
Gerade weil du deine Gefühle soweit wie möglichst nicht mit einfließen lässt schätze ich deinen Kanal.
So und nicht anders schließe ich mich deinen Worten an. Ich befürchte in 9 Jahren und 2 Wochen haben wir wieder einen Fackelzug durchs Brandenburger Tor wenn das so weiter geht. Wahrscheinlich noch getarnt als Kulturauslebung zum 100 jährigen.... Darf jeder selbst darüber nachdenken was gemeint ist 🤯
@@grisueitorf was Martin S___r und die AfD mit "Remigration" tatsächlich meinen, darüber habt ihr euch aber schon informiert, oder? 🤔
@@joachimfischer7444 Was meinen sie denn? Und kannst du sicher sein das zu wissen? Weiter noch: Ist es nicht grundsätzlich gruselig wenn der Geldadel und Rechtsextreme sich heimlich wie eine Geheimgesellschaf treffen um unter Ausschluss der Öffentlichkeit die Zukunft Deutschlands zu planen?
@@joachimfischer7444 Ethnische Säuberungen, ja.
@@joachimfischer7444 Nein das wäre Objektiv
I am an immigrant, a well educated, highly skilled engineer. I studied here, paid taxes while as a student since I worked as well, and have been working full-time since 2019. I am damn sure, I have positively impacted the German system through my taxes, law abiding life and my output as an engineer in the German tech market. In return Germans or Germany has never been unfair to me in any way and I love the country and want to apply for citizenship ( my home country is not in emergency, or war torn or an unlivable place, in fact it's one of the fastest growing economies and in some aspects ahead of Germany, i.e. digitization). So it hurts to see that things are going south. BUT, on the other hand I also observe what SOME illegal immigrants are doing to the system. These actions are even visible on the streets and in day to day life. I feel annoyed and irritated as well because they have ABSOLUTELY zero respect for the law of the land, the culture of the land and the way of life here.
Does that mean I support the right wing , absolutely not!! To me, the problem lies in the very aspect of humanity that humans are always attracted to the extremes of whatever. Balance is something that we never achieve.
I hope and pray that I can grow old in Germany, and keep munching on my sauerkraut, steinoffen bread, and keep complaining about everything 😅
We need more people like you 😊
Danke, dass Du hier bist, und Danke, dass Du dieses Land und seine Menschen schätzt. ❤🙏
@@ankapabu2834 aber natürlich... Deutschland und die Deutschen sind immer nett zu mir gewesen... Auch mir tut es weh, wenn ich sehe, dass etwas in Deutschland falsch laüft...
@@tzatzikiv812 thanks... I hope the government understands what kind of immigrants are actually going to build a nation and who not.
@@Basicguy1798 Aber welche Partei soll man denn wählen, wenn gerade die Altparteien den deutschen Pass verschenken wollen und es auch keinen Einbürgerungstest mehr geben soll? Das was Martin Sellner in seinem Buch beschrieben hat über die Abschiebung in drei Schritten, betrifft die allermeisten Doppelpässler und Ausländer nicht. Es geht expliziet um die Menschen, welche erstens weder eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung haben noch einen anderen Status, welcher den Aufenthalt in Deutschland legitimieren würde und dazu kommt, dass es den ein oder anderen Menschen hierhin treibt, welcher die Demokratie ersetzen will. Also quasi in Deutschland leben will... ohne Deutschland. Laut unserer Verfassung ein No-Go.
antifascism is not an opinion, is the only human reaction to fascism. great video
Good on you! Neutrality is only a virtue when both sides genuinely have a point!
And who gets to determine if they both do?
@@newwaveinfantry8362The people obviously, when one side are an obvious continuation of the nazis and their ideas.. its easy to say who is evil
@@newwaveinfantry8362 Ultimately? The person making the statement I guess? I don't really see that as an issue. If someone genuinely, based on facts, and having thought it through thinks both (or more) sides of an argument have a point. Fine. Nothing wrong with that.
The problem is the tendency of some people to only ever position themselves in the center of any spectrum because they somehow think that's inherently where the reasonable logical position must be and that "they both have a point" applies to absolutely every situation ever.
@@newwaveinfantry8362 not Magats who shill for Trump.
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
I recently moved to German because I took a job. Your videos and shorts have been phenomenal to help me stay informed, especially since my German is still very bad, so It is difficult to read news in German.
I don't know if you know already, but if you want to stay up to date on german news you can watch/read DW news.
They are producing news funded by the german taxpayer in many different languages including English and German.
Might help you out :)
It's propaganda. Don't believe the hatred!
I've been learning German for 50 years. I can chat away quite happily but I still find the newspapers a challenging read.
Welcome to Germany! Do try the potato :)
@@gfrewqpoiuYou are better off not taking anything german news gov funded too seriously, it always involves government narrative woven in as "debate subject".
I am really worried about how far they could take this if they ever gain power. I was born as a dual citizen so it would also affect me. But to be honest, if we ever get to this point I would probably leave Germany voluntarily.
Better you live now it’s not worth for your mental health
@@neverlookback1244you are in the AFD 😂
So you are either US Murican, Israeli, Turkish or Swiss + German. Which one are you? Otherwise you are a criminal. Because even Iranian citizenship is taken off when becoming German. Even when Iran does not accept that.
Thats ok bye
If you dont respect the culture of the country you live in, better leave yes.
If you are assimilated and respect the law, you dont have to be worried
As an American... AGAIN Germany?
AFD are a liberal movement. This guy lives in a fantasy. Read the AFD manifesto tell me what's so fascist about it.
Then we'll get the "come save the world from it's idiot self again Mr.Red,white,and blue! It's a lunch pale job.
Look locally, and pretend all those stars and stripes are schwarz-rot-gold. You will, _again_, say, "again, Germany?"
It's happening throughout the West.
You're too middle wing! Stop that!!1
Stop being a radical centrist!!!!!! You’re not Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
@@Taalul The video is totally left wing ,He dosnt tell you who funded correctiv !
Lol - I get it's a joke, but Switzerland as radical centrist? Not really accurate (besides the location) - think farther right... though more right wing populist than authoritarian. @@Taalul
Andrew, I appreciate your strive for objectivity very much, and I think you are doing a very good job. Yet, as you said, sometimes you simply have to take a standpoint, because not doing so is chosing a side in itself. And again, you have made your standpoint very clear, and while marking it as definitely taking a side, you also have firmly based your arguments on facts and objective criteria. This is how responsible journalism should do political commentaries. Thank you and keep up the good work!
The only difference between 1945 and 2045 will be that no one can say "We didn't know anything".
They will still say it and cover each others asses
When I told my acquaintances and colleagues about my gut feelings regarding the far right wing and what they might possibly aim for, I was laughed at and got the reply that such a thing could never happen again because of Germany being a democracy. I looked at them in shock and disbelief. Their naivety was what irritated me. Now it seems to me that ABBA's song was right ("...the history book is repeating itself..").
If you want a particularly prescient ABBA song, I would suggest "The Piper". It's not widely known -- it was a track on the Super Trouper album -- but it's really dark.
Yes, history _is_ repeating itself - for instance in 2021/22 with that _invredible_ hatred against the _"unvaccinated!"_ Or right now, when there are muslim migrants ranting "Kill all jews" _in German streets!!!_
Now put things in perspective. Yes, we do have a big group of right wing radicals here. Yes, they have been growing in numbers during the last years. But no, they are by no means the majority. And no, our right to vote for other parties has not gone away yet. It is an awakening call, yes, but a radical right party can still be stopped by all democrats here.
@@yvonnehorde1097 In 1930, the NSDAP got just over 18% of the vote. In July 1932 they got 37%, in November 1932 they got 33%; and in March 1933 they got 44% of the vote, used a controversial decree to give themselves an absolute majority, started imprisoning opposition politicians, and dismantled the entire democratic system from inside. In the November 1933 election it was the only party on the ballot paper. All this despite repeated attempts by other parties to prevent a Nazi government, or at least one with Hitler as chancellor.
At the moment, we have to hope that the democratic order is a little more robust this time around; but since one analysis has now shown how a single party could legally bypass the provisions of the Basic Law and give them the power to unilaterally change it, we also have to hope that whatever anti-democratic government gets in is too chaotic or too stupid to actually go through with it.
What you say about cultures always having mixed is spot on, and something that the likes of UKIP seem to have forgotten!
It's also something certain people forget when talking about "cultural appropriation"
@@_jpg The point about cultural appropriation is what are you doing with it. It's true, that some identifying as left are a tad bit oversensitive. That's more a reason of they identify as left, without having an actual method to determine what is left. They see you wearing a beret and a striped shirt, despite not being french and they loose their shit. I identify as far left btw. and I hope it says something to you that I can identify that problem.
On the other hand we have the Karl Mai Spiele in Germany about indigenes peoples of north america. Those are based on a romantic fantasy of what this culture looked to the author Karl Mai *and* the people participating in this trend tend to berate actual indigenous people who dare to criticise them, "because they want to protrait them positively".
Cultural appropritation is therefore a complex topic with many angles and viewpoints. You can be right and wrong on very different levels and no one answer will always be correct.
Sadly there are countless expamples where cultures didnt mix but got destroyed by another one. The migration of the Indo-Europeans, the invasion of the Anglo-Saxons, the colonization of the Americas, the Islamization of Lebanon. In addition, the low birth rate of the original population compared to the immigrants leads to the original population disappearing completely over time.
@@Dreagostini *beret
*lose
*indigenous
*fantasy
@@panzrok8701 *where
Positiv überrascht von dem Kanal. And it helps talking about current things in Germany with acquaintances abroad with German roots who want to know a bit about topics in Germany.
Viel Erfolg weiterhin!
Did you even realize that you are zwischen den Sprachen hin und her springst? 🙂
@@galdavonalgerri2101 yes.
I was undecided what to do. So I did both. 😁
@@rosaecrux the word you are looking for is 'abroad'.
@@shelbynamels973 oh thanks, that was what I intended, but swiping requires more attention sometimes or I was distracted.
He dosnt tell you who funded correctiv !
I think he is a bit sneaky !
And another thing to consider is where these people decided to hold that conference. Because not that far away is the Wannsee, where in 1942, another far-right group held a meeting together with similar ideas.
Yeah sure...🤦♀
Who is _actually_ running around on German streets, watning to kill all jews, huh....? (And not only in Germany....)
It's OK to draw strings by content, but not by location. That's kind of a conspiracy theory itself.
It's 8 kilometers away, it's absurd to claim any connection because of that.
Props for avoiding the name of that right-wing part of the CDU/CSU. The term "Werteunion" (values union) is not a lot better than "Alternative für Deutschland" when it comes to false advertisement.
I think it fittingly points at the cultural secularism of German politics. The CDU is no longer discussing christian values and the only value we really have is liberalism wich is supposed to provide infinite space for all and everything. We have reached the point where Correctiv spreads the idea that sharia law is in line with democracy despite the European Court of Human Rights ruling the exact opposite.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it
Last time far right politics and Germany mixed we had a slight issue throughout the entirety of europe
They had been a progressive third way movement.
The post-WW2 order is falling apart before our eyes, what joyous times🎉
well, thank you for being plain here. Clear and concise talk about where we are heading is absoluty imparative. And the massiv waves of Antifascist demonstrations are giving me a little hope that we might yet avoid turning the clock fully back a whole century. But as you said: this will take a lot of effort from all of us, not just a few demonstrations for a while....
@Th0rodin
Then you are blind the clock was turn back to DDR Time a while ago. Democracy will come back only with the AFD. We have a antidemocracy Regime right now. The AFD is the only political party who adhere to German law.
Does Martin Sellner paint? was he ever rejected from Art School?
NPC-homour
You’re right we need more churches in Saudi Arabia, and European cultures.
I can remember protest signs from early in the Trump years with "Am I a white enough immigrant for you, Mr. President?" on them. Exaggeration then, perilously close to becoming reality in a lot of places now.
If you don't vote for me you ain't black
@@koalabear1984 Hmmm must be that racist Trump that said it, surely Joe Biden couldn't say such a thing!
The wall is being build without Trump, so what? Trump never started a war and that is important.
The danger of this becoming ideological purification is not small. Björn Höcke wrote in the book "Nie zweimal in denselben Fluss" that he not only thinks foreigners should leave, but that persons who don't protect our culture from islamization should go with them.
Please call him Bernd!
Wobei ich Islamisierung in der Tat auch sehr ablehnend gegenüberstehe. Wobei ich darunter nicht verstehe, dass ein paar mehr Leute mit muslimischen Hintergrund hier sind, aber Leute, die das Kalifat fordern, sind für mich nicht Flüchtlinge oder Immigranten, sondern Invasoren, auch wenn sie formal legal eingewandert sein sollten.
@@jensphiliphohmann1876
Yeah, we should have addressed that problem 20 or 30 years ago. Now we're in a mess.
I honestly don't even know, how we can get out of this while keeping our own moral integrity intact.
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 No one in the rest of the republic, who is a democrat, supports islamism. That is just a right wing talking point to muddy the water like: "Oh, you are not with us? So you are in favor of islamisation!" when talking about if you just should straight up imprison every muslim or not. So the arguments aren't linked. It's strawmaning.
@charleswhite758 Since you mention India, right now their country is undergoing unrest and uncertainty with a Hindu nationalist party (BJP) overriding the rights of the hundreds of millions of Indians who are not ethnic or religious Hindus and normalising the view that they are "different" or "less committed to India" than "proper" Indians.
So yes, these identitarian politics are incredibly reductive, offering no real solution beyond blind exclusionism and reactionary politics. If you want to do something about culture, you would volunteer at museums, at language institutes (perhaps help immigrants integrate, eh?), and at schools. If you cared about job availability, you would direct your anger at the incredibly small amount of companies that control a majority of your country's job market (and have used their position to outsource everything under the sun) rather than the families trying to make end's meet. And so on. Never stop looking for better solutions than the ones presented to you.
With things as they are in the States right now, I was, Ironically, hoping to use Germany as my retirement plan.
I liked your view on the matter, however, I think we should not look at the issue in a simplistic manner. I understand the examples of food you gave, but it would be very simplistic to reduce the cultural problems in Germany to this. I think there should be real talk between right and left in Germany on the political and social levels to understand the deep rooted fears and issues and not gloss them over with a food illustration.
The reason I am saying this is because people who never voted AfD are voting for them because they have a real problem with how the country is going, especially with the issue of refugees and the cultural problems some cultures have brought to Germany. I mean sure, you're British, but you cannot say your culture is no different from a culture of certain people (not all) coming from Pakistan or some other Muslim country... With that said, I believe that diversity is a good thing when you respect the culture and traditions of the people hosting you and when you respect the rule of law and you are a productive part of society.
BTW, this is coming from a Middle Easterner who lives in Germany. I came to Germany because it is Germany, I don't want it to become like the place I came from.
The world is going crazy.
6:50 Okay, I was taken aback by everything... But this setence
"The Cultural Purification of Germany"
No, please for the love of God do not let any of these people gain any semblance of power
With no word did they ever talk about an ethnic reason for the proposed expulsions. It only affects illegal migrants and those not wanting to integrate into society.
Right wing parties here, which includes the CDU and FDP, just love to imitate the crap comming from Daddy-USA.
We don't know what was or wasn't said at the meeting. We do know the main speaker was an Identitarian, and Identitarians believe in expelling people who are not culturally pure, regardless of whether or not they want to integrate.
explain that to finnish dude. Why surely you had some stupid implementation things in past but past is past and you have learned right? Its just slight curve towards right ok nothing to worry about. Past hick ups are past and you have learned from those I am sure that if you give this a honest try things will go way more smoothly. You never know until you try?
@@rewboss I listend to what the Identitarians want and they never propose getting rid of everyone no beeing ethnic german. What they want and what is completely reasonable is that germans should be the ethnic mayority in Germany same as swedes in Sweden or kenyans in Kenya.
The argument that this government would "make a mess of nearly everything it touched" is a convenient one.
None of the conflicts that are currently breaking out in public are new. The problems currently being discussed in public, from the financing and subsidization of agriculture to the inadequate staffing and crumbling infrastructure of the German railroads, to the too hesitant legislative changes for framework conditions towards more climate protection and the dependence on fossil fuels revealed in the Ukraine war, to the financial restrictions on action imposed on the state by the so-called Schuldenbremse, all these problems have one thing in common: they were able to become so acute because the previous government put off pressing issues.
Unpleasant conflicts were avoided and instead the impression was created that our collective social and individual actions could simply continue without major changes to our personal habits and without social change. The superimposition of several intensifying crises is now exposing the country's inability to have debated the necessary changes in good time and is therefore making us more vulnerable to simple populist pseudo-solutions. The Ampel may present an unfortunate picture with its conflicts, but at least it is not turning a blind eye every time, as was usual in the previous government. In fact, a lot of government decisions make me incredibly angry every day. But even with all the conflicts between the FDP and the Greens, for example, the course is being set at the working level in many unspectacular projects, as shown by a study by the Bertelsmann Foundation, which writes that the Ampel government has been more successful in delivering their promises at half time, than previous governments had been. To say they "make a mess of nearly everything they touch" is a really convenient excuse not to discuss the role of the media in the public discourse.
Despite the constant bickering and for all the troubles the Ampel has to deal with they are rather productive.
well commented. I totally agree.
I understood he meant a potential government involving the AfD?
@@nikibordeaux no, he didn't. Hence I've been considering writing a similar comment.
I'm very grateful that someone else did.
Sadly, the public really does not see it that way.
If the economy is doing badly, it is always blamed on the current government, not any previous one.
I honestly hope by now that next election either the AFD is banned from running or is somehow still blocked from getting into a coalition with the CDU, otherwise I will be seriously considering to move to my fiancée in the Baltics because she could not safely move here like we originally planned.
I heard about this a few days ago.
My ears perked up when I heard the sentence "Austrian right wing activist speaking on a secret conference in Germany".... Yeah I think we had that before and it didn't go so well.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
You mean the famous Austrian painter
@@neverlookback1244
Yep, that's the guy.
The "secret meeting" wasn't that secret, because Martin Sellner read from his book to the audience. If it's so scandalous and important, then why did the media wait 46 days to inform the public? By the way, the people who attended the book-reading might press charges against the spyers, because the behavior was against the law.
People who have migrated to other countries but are not from war-affected areas should be allowed to return to their home countries and contribute to their development. On the other hand, those who have fled their nations due to ongoing wars should respect the laws of the host countries they have migrated to and not demand the same rights as the citizens of that country, and return home once peace is restored. They should focus on learning how to promote peace within their own nations and with their neighboring countries to prevent future wars and mass migration. It is crucial for them to return home and to hold their leaders accountable for development, especially in regions rich in resources like Africa and the Arab world.
And you are who to demand that my country is homophobic and misogynistic as f*ck and I will stay here or any other country that's not a sh;thole like my country of origin
Thank you for speaking out! I know full well what this might entail in future for you in the comments. So THANK YOU! We need to be speaking out against these things to make sure things are not repeating from near 100 years ago.
An Austrian leading Germany astray. I’m shocked.
Well said that man.
A far-right activist from Austria defending Germanic culture. Hmmmmm
3:37 Oh no, not an Austrian again! 😂
Ah come on we will get used to it ... again.
@@3141micha 🥴
Ernst Happel was a good austrian
i know Martin Sellner. he is a known far-right activist in Germany, and especially in Austria.
but i also think that Andrew exaggerates Sellners influence on the AfD a bit in this video here.
the "Identitäre Bewegung" group isn't that big, even though still dangerous and probably well connected with other far-right groups.
either way, we still should be cautious.
@@ulipeterson6112 So was the mustache guy and his movement in the beginning (that's more or less what my grandpa told me).
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I think I need to watch this video a second time. Danke 🇩🇪 ❤️
1:04 Nope. Correctiv is an organisation, sponsored by a billionaire and so called philanthropist.
Politically speaking, they are far from neutral.
Max Liebermann said on January 30th 1933: “I can't eat as much as I want to puke.” I can relate to that.
"Max Liebermann was a son of a wealthy Jewish fabric manufacturer turned banker, Louis Liebermann"
That an Austrian is telling Germans how to get rid of unwanted people, is kind of funny and truly disturbing at the same time. He is by the way so right, that he is still banned from X .... which says a lot.
Doesn't anyone remember what happened the last time an Austrian said stuff like this? And doesn't this Austrian realise the irony in this ideal, clearing Germany of it's non-German residents would mean he would have to leave too.
Very good video. Thanks!
I will not comment with my political points here (I fully support your arguments, though) in order to keep the comment section clear from this. I agree seeing warning signs in politics. Thes should be taken seriously in the future, as people are feeling less safe, due what is happening in the world, while having increasing costs for energy consumption and daily life.
I hope the government acknowledges this and will react with the right decisions. History must not repeat.
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
The increased popularity of the AfD is scaring me. While I am not muslim, I am an American citizen who had been saving and working up for over a year to move to Germany. I worry for my future self and all the other immigrants who just want to live in peace.
As a side note, I find it a somewhat eerie coincidence that one of the AfD political activists is originally from Austria.
Since you are an American citizen, you have nothing to worry about. The issue are the terrorists who posed as refugees and have infiltrated in Germany.
Sehr sehr gut gesagt und in jeder Beziehung 100% auf den Punkt gebracht! 🤗 Dein Video war erholsam im Kontrast zu dem ganzen Geseier um besorgte Bürger und "Man darf doch die Enttäuschten nicht als rechts diffamieren!!1!".
Ganz genau! Man muss die "Enttäuschten" als "rechts" diffamieren, denn nur links ist lieb! So funktioniert schließlich Demokratie: Links = gut, rechts = böse! Ist doch wohl klar!
What I find very interesting and unfortunately have not really heard on the subject so far. Is that the plan discussed at this meeting is the madagascar plan of the nazis before the holocaust was decided.
*Please don't believe these toxic propaganda lies!* None of it is true!! It's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
This step is simply omitted, we compare to the Holocaust and the Wannseekonferenz directly. The madagascar plan is not very popular, not well known in Germany.
I’m really worried about Germanys future. I hope there won’t be a point like January 30th 1933.
Well we have elections 2033, we'll see
germany will reurnn to how it was in 2003(i cant spell keyboard legs
It won't be like '45
Never again, amirite?
@@ijusthatenormiesihavenooth1164 As a german I sure hope so.
The AfD has moderate and radical factions? I would say it is more accurate to say that it has radical and extremist factions. The radicals may be "moderate" compared to the extremists, but I wouldn’t really call them "moderate" in any other context (and also have been getting less and less influential in the party over the years).
Even the most "moderate" people in the AfD deny climate change, are "sceptical" of vaccines, want to crack down hard on immigration, particularly that of muslims, want massive cuts to the welfare state, and also endorse and defend pretty much everything the extremist wing of the party says and does and publicly deny that there is anything wrong with it.
The most "moderate" AfD members may not have been recorded publicly saying that immigrants should be "shot" sent "to gas chambers" or "beat up back to Africa" (translated original statements from Beatrix von Storch, Christian Lüth and Dieter Görnert, all AfD), but that could be just as much a result of pure dumb luck for them as of them actually having more "moderate" ideology.
These are relative terms. The moderate faction is moderate relative to the average for the party, not for the entire political spectrum.
When you drive your car in the right-hand lane of the autobahn, the left side of your car is further right than the right side of the car in the next lane. That doesn't mean your car has no left side.
@@rewboss Yes, of course I understood that. I was just noting how weird the term "moderate" now sounds when applied to the AfD, since there are no actual moderates left in the party.
This is considering that it is quite common for wings of political parties to be referred to using terminology specific to that party depending on where its range of political positions is perceives to fall on the overall political spectrum, e.g. the Greens are usually divided into "realos" and "fundies"; it wouldn’t be inaccurate to talk of moderates and radicals, but people hardly ever do. Or the Republican party in the US, where it is by now probably most common and appropriate to distinguish between "trumpists" and "anti-trumpists".
Using descriptors like "moderate" and "radical" irrespective of the party can be misleading in cases where either neither, or both, are actual political radicals. While it’s always possible for one group of people to be *more* radical than another (e.g. the extremist wing of the AfD is even more radical than the rest, who are "only" radical), that can easily be conflated with whether one considers either of them radicals or not.
Noone is talking about deporting some random Englishman, "Remigration" is primarily concerned with Moslems
And with anyone who, in the eyes of the regime, hasn't properly "assimilated" into the local culture. At some point, that might be said to include any and all dual citizens, or people who criticize aspects of German culture, or don't fully buy in to the regime's official doctrine.
This is how it began before. There is no reason to think it won't happen again.
"Remigration" is just an euphemism for "deportation"
and of cause the AFD ist talking about getting rid of EVERYBODY, who are not "pure" Germans. Everybody with an migratory background is a threat for the pureness of the german "ethnic" (race) in the eyes of the AFD. And this meeting in Potsdam proofs that once and for all
Yes, your videos have become more politic, and that is a good thing. Anyone should use their popularity to communicate what's going on and make a point for democracy.
Greetings from Lübeck,
Marcus
Wow!!!! Having visited Germany last in 2019, I’m not surprised that these “discussions” are taking place. Outside Berlin and Köln, I met some people with cultural ideas that clearly excluded immigrants from some cultures. It wasn’t even particular countries but cultures. So what is going to happen with the Turkish communities that have liven in Germany for many years??? How is going to do the work these people do seeing so many Germans see these mobs as “beneath them”. Perhaps this discussion is happening because the German economy is not apparently performing well. But hasn’t’t this same discussion happened recently the last time the German economy “went south”????? I believe this is just the latest incarnation of some Germans blaming the Auslanders for the country’s woes……. Andrew, vielen Dank für die Information. Grüße aus Australien. Tschüss.
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Ask Sweden why they have so many gang shootings...
Some people seem to have overlooked that the things you conserve are dead.
The golden age in the Netherlands had anything to do with all the immigrants that fled to Netherlands. Immigrants make a country interesting. Some of our funniest comedians are children of immigrants. And we have saté, and the kapsalon and Fernandez.
and the banjo boys
But I can understand that people fear the immigration of Political Islam. It makes a country "really interesting".
@@gargoyle7863 Man suffers the most from the suffering he fears.
How big is the probability something happening to you due to this people? These are irrational fears. The probability getting hit by a car is larger. The people who suffer from those fears, better seek some counselling.
@@jannetteberends8730 Humans are no robots. It's our instincts to asses how harmful other people might be because they are deliberate acting beings. Cars are not, they are objects only.
Therefore you have the Mocro Mafia and all the drug related violance in your country
It's so weird to see that Austrian guy again.
I saw a video about him 4 years ago and proceeded to forget about him because I thought he was not going to worth noting.
Yes, national identity does matter.
what's OBJECTIVELY wrong about countries having strict immigration laws?
It restricts a fundamental freedom, that of movement.
There is a clear difference between the cultures of europe and the cultures of the middle east. To say that because we have chips in the uk and it doesnt originate here doesnt mean a unique british culture hasnt been established.
But British culture is constantly changing, and always has changed. What is your point, exactly?
@@rewboss I agree. Culture will change overtime however in my opinion it should have a sense of continuity. Replacing one culture with another is change, but there's no continuity of culture there, it's complete replacement.
@@finnogorman5683 I see no evidence of any kind of cultural replacement.
@@rewboss live in Croydon
Multiculturalism is to not require an individual to integrate. In places where foreigners have become a larger percentage of that area's population, the culture has been replaced overtime.
Figures that an Austrian would be involved again.
what are the Germans?
the Germanic tribes that attacked the Romans?
The Allemans who live in the southeast?
The Bavarians, who historically belonged to the Austrians?
The Slavic people who lived east of the Elbe and submitted to the Germanic peoples in order to have peace?
The Danes who found themselves in the German Empire after the border was moved?
The East Frisians who live west and east of the German-Dutch border?
The Poles who found work in the Ruhr area?
The Italians who run the ice cream parlors in the summer and whose fathers built our country?
The Muslims who sell the delicious "German" Döner?
The Muslim greengrocers who sell all kinds of vegetables?
To name just a few...
"what are the Germans? "
"The Italians who run the ice cream parlors in the summer and whose fathers built our country?"
you answers your question already yourself
The african hordes, throwing away their IDs?
The Allemans live in the Southwest. And Austria historically belonged to Bavaria, not the other way round.
I always don't think it's the government who messed this up. At least not the current one. I see there are many people making them responsible for the issues in the country, but we are in a state of crisis, which is also because Germany failed to reduce dependency on russian energy, which is nit the current government's fault. What is the case though, is that whenever there's a crisis, people start to blame the government. There were also massive media campaigns in newspapers like the BILD, who made a series of Headlines and posts against the country's minister for the economy, Robert Habeck. This spoke to an already angry populace.
the difficulty for Germans is their complete subjugation towards ideology promoted from Washington and towards political goals of Washington that are incompatible with the goals of that people
they are destined to perish ..and maybe they deserve it
but the damage they will do to europe in their last years of existing is what is for me ...problematic
As someone whose personal ideology and beliefs do not align with any of the major or minor ideologies, I don't know how to feel about this, and the state of the world as a whole.
Germany had been, at one point, the nation with the highest immigration in Europe, and, simultaneously, the highest rapes per capita in the world. Now, Sweden claims both those titles, which is very much proof that a lenient, open-border policy stance on immigration is linked directly to a rise in crime, let alone a housing crisis.
I live in Australia, and we are currently facing a dire housing crisis, with a government that is trying to push through upwards of 1 MILLION immigrants in the next few years. It does not take a rocket-scientist to understand just how dangerous it is to let in immigrants without a SIGNIFICANT level of screening.
Now, I should make myself clear, I believe this concept of preventing the mixing of cultures is absurd. I am by no means a racist or white supremacist. I am merely someone who sees things for how they are.
Immigration does not cause a rise in crime, improper integration does. Sweden does not put in the effort or make it easy for foreigners to integrate into their society. The U.S.A. makes it very easy and it goes well, most of our crime is not from first or second generation immigrants (but those who have been "Americans" for many generations).
Sweden has been the "rape capital" of Europe for literal decades before the immigration crisis. Yet the far right picked on that fact and decided to blame it on immigrants.
You're facing a housing crisis because your country is not building houses and are letting greedy corporations keep the houses vacant in hopes of the house prices increasing.
You claim that you're not racist or white supremacist, but quote literal neo nazis and the OLDEST racist trick in the book that "IMMIGRANTS ARE STEALING OUR JOBS AND HOUSES!!!" hysteria.
@@fortheloveofnoise uhm, what? sweden does not put in the effort? they were the most liberal in all of europe, feeding, paying and housing refugees while they (shouldve learned) swedish. the populace was welcoming and warm.
sorry, if that didnt help, and it sure didnt, then nothing will.
the main problem is the speed. integration can only be improper if its over 1000 people every month - germanys BAMF was helplessly overloaded most of the time since 2015. make a screening and limit migration to 1000 monthly and it could work
@@fortheloveofnoise
proper integration cannot and will never happen at the pace and way it is done. It also assumes that the people arriving want to "integrate", which is just that - an assumption.
"I am merely someone who sees things for how they are". I'm not sure if you need glasses, if you need a course in basic statistic or if you just heard something and simply repeat it. But your whole argument is based on an allegedly correlation between high immigration and high rapes per capita. So how can it be that since 2004/5 the rapes per capita in Germany is going down strong and the immigration rate goes up strong since 2007/8. Sorry, but your precondition for your whole argument is week to non-existent.
I see this style often and am very surprised that nearly nobody in the comments takes even 5 seconds to fact check the pre condition of a chain of arguments ...
And I'm not even trying to ask how you correlate a housing crisis (what is that actually?) directly with an immigration rate. I'm still well aware of the "housing crisis" 2008 in the USA.
A politician, a business leader and a far right extremist walk into a hotel in germany. He orders a room for the night. I'm already sorry for where germany seems to be going the next decade.
Germany started all this influx of Migrants in 2015
Wait until you find out about guest workers in the 70s
@@qwerty-xq4vx 60´s actually.. ANd now 1 in 8 "germans" is a turk.. They will hide this even further with the dual citizenship
Amen, brother! There's only one thing in History that always stays the same: the fact that history is about change all the time, always. Trying to 'freeze' and fix cultures in time is about as useful as trying to abolish gravity.
hot take: I don't think the current government is doing any worse than the ones before.
There is also some external data suggesting the Ampel actually realised a lot more of their goals than most coalitions before them. And no, I didn't vote for them. Nor am I saying they're doing a good job. But I just don't see why the media is battering away at them constantly.
The tail wags the dog. (The government does politics of the far right.)
What the black rock parties are doing anything good?
It is more important to look at Davos and about what they are doing there. There the Plans are made actually.
“Massive scale migrations of people is totally normal and historical and not a big deal!”
First example is the literal genocide of a continents worth of people.
Me: “Huh.”
Huh indeed, eh.
The genocide of native americans was not a byproduct of immigration lol.
neo nazi acts dumb, more news at 11
Thank you for the Video!
When I heard about this meeting, I was deeply upset. Later on at least nobody can say "Oh, I didn't know about the ambitions of the AfD." ... If the AfD ever wins a federal election, I will leave Germany. My project employer at work is a Swedish company, maybe they will take me in or I have connections to Canada. I'd be thrown out of AfD-Germany even though I have no ethical background. Simply because I could still no longer feel safe. I like to share in public what I think about the AfD and right-wing radicalism in general and I'm gay, so I don't represent the "classic family image" and would therefore be very high up on the deportation list anyway. We've already joked sarcastically among our friends that at least we wouldn't have to worry about heating costs after deportation to the "model state" in North Africa.
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Rewboss emphasized that at this point, all we have are allegations and speculation. I wouldn't put it past the AfD (or at least those parts of it) to plan for deportations, mind you. But… allegations aren't "Mein Kampf" (which hardly anybody read back then).
I had the same thought :(
If AFD would ever win, I would leave Germany. AFD would be the downfall for Germany, it would destroy so much.
You are going to leave probably just like all those americans who claimed they would leave if Trump were to be president.
I am a white American guy who has been living in Germany for more than a decade and speaks fluently, and at least in my experience we aren't really what right wingers really mean when they talk about foreigners. Or at least they talk about foreigners directly to me as if I don't really count as one. But I suppose that is something that can easily turn into "They came for the XYZ, and I said nothing."
Anyway one of the reasons why right wing groups are getting traction is that there are some very real problems such as potential overloading of Social Services and subsidy funding problems. The AfD is discussing terrible, nationalistic, racist solutions to those problems, and nobody else is really discussing them at all.
For example what to do with refugees and how to deal with funding refugee programs is a big issue whether or not you think it's a good idea to take them in. But the mainstream political position seems to be to just ignore that the system is overloaded entirely and frame wanting to even talk about it as being racist or xenophobic.
I don't agree with the AfD or the right wing about the cause of the problems or the solutions, but I can see how if people find these problems serious they might be attracted to the only people who are really talking about them as if they are problems.
Astonishing analysis by an American. Actually AfD is more like US-Republicans; and germans never really like them as beeing old-fashioned or too religious.
So I expected, AfD must look more "normal" to Americans.
It's a bit like seeing problems where no problems are. It's impossible to solve imaginary problems based on feelings or rumors. And it's about beeing inpatient. Solutions that take 2 years are simple not accepted as solutions. This is what makes people radical.
@@holger_pI never said that AfD seemed "normal". Understanding the reasons for a group's existence is not the same thing as normalizing it or finding it to be normal or acceptable.
I also find your characterization of "imaginary problems" and "seeing problems where no problems are" is a bit overly antagonistic.
It is impossible to deradicalize somebody without even attempting to take them seriously or speak to them at eye-level.
@@holger_p And maybe to clarify my position a bit more: as long as people are willing to engage in good faith argument, I am willing to talk to them.
There are a lot of people who are not AfD, and not even really radical who I have heard repeating AfD talking points.
Should I just dismiss it as "Stammtischgeschwätz", or should I actually talk to them about it? One of those two things seems more productive than the other.
@@timseguine2 I told my expectations, added by my surprise you don't fullfill it.
You know the fear to flight ? This is such kind of imaginary problems. It exists, yes, but at a very very low chance. If this is a reason for you to not fly, or shake legs while flying, you need psychotherapy.
That's the kind of problems these right wing people have. They are unable to evaluate likelihood. Rate of murder goes permantly down in Germany in the last 20 years, or stays constant, but they tell you it's going to increase.
They mutually confirm themselvese and so they start these kind of legends.
(It has halfed in the last 20 years, from 400 to 200 - per year all over germany.
If we had US-conditions it would be 5000, and USA is still not considered a dangerous country to live in)
You cannot talk to people, if you have no common ground. If one is claiming "god made earth in 7 days" (not a popular thesis in germany), he will stay stuborn and there is no way to change his opinion. Talking is just completly useless.
This is where a psychotherapist would come in, but you cannot apply them to 10 million people.
The topic is, to remove brain-washing of people, that's a very tough job, actually nobody has a solution.
Beeing right, or populistic to be exact, you follow the same strategy as religion.
People just believe. No approach to come up with logic, facts or discussions.
@@timseguine2 "Good faith" is the reason of the problem, not the solution.
You need people to reconsider themselve, people admitting, they might be wrong.
Scientists are always able to do so, but those right people don't.
Somebody telling you in good faith, that 2+2=5 are not worth, talking to, unless they are willing to learn and to correct themselves.
But the approach of Populistic parties always is "It's good as you are", "Stay as you are", "It's not your fault", "It's somebody elses fault", etc. That's their believe.
Nobody requires to understand anything, nobody needs to think. It's just about feeling good. It's as hard to change, as getting somebody away from drugs.
A conference in Potsdam, eh? At least it wasn't in Wannsee. 🤔🤬
Thanks for another informative video.
Oh don't you know there was an infamous conference in Potsdam as well?
*Please don't believe these toxic propaganda lies!* None of it is true!! It's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Awesome news!
I am with patrickhanft here, saying that a lot of the mess we are currently facing is due to too much "Weiter so!" during the Merkel era and even the years before. Which too successfully secured wealth to the country, creating a false feeling of security, way too long.
I think, currently, we are facing the following problem:
Had the current crises hit all within the time of the CDU or the Great coalition of CDU/SPD, and would have exposed all the things that were in the wrong in the country at that time, people also would have protested, but they would have been able to turn either to the left OR to the right in order to do so.
With a moderate leftist government in place that in addition somehow is very bad at selling their work even where they do succeed, and a far left that seems to have dissapointed, the only way people with moderate views can turn now is right. Or at least it is more likely that they will. I daresay that even a strong CDU would not be too good for the country, as more "Weiter so!" would certainly be detrimental. Unfortunately, they do not look too strong right now, and I think that at least some people know that a lot of the current mess was also a result of the previous governments. And there comes the so called "alternative". The whole situation is a veritable mess.
It's not the security missing, or you don't use the word very exact. What's gone stale is the quality of prediction, the forcastability of future is unsure, but not necessarily insecure.
If people require the governement to influence the oil price or similiar, they are just nuts. Some believe they made inflation by purpose. And as more they mutually confirm this thinking, as more are going to believe it.
@@holger_p I agree that I was probably using the word in a wrong way.
However, I was referring to the past more than to the present. Everyone felt that the future was indeed more predictable and that nothing too bad would be happening to us.
So everybody felt - _safe_ , I guess would be the better word. And they wrongly assumed that this feeling was here to last.
While actually it could have been foreseen that this was not the case as a decent part of the rest of the world was slowly crumbling.
@@marge2548 Yes, but your "feeling" is more like rumors, nobody made experiences. It's like they heard something by somebody, and missevaluate the likelihood of reoccurence.
That's enough to loose the feeling of safety, but actually they are not loosing safety.
The only real thing happening to everybody, is inflation, but that's also worldwide, not really local politics.
@@holger_p I completely agree. :)
Maybe I did not get my point across very well. My impression is that people somehow connected "safety" with the idea that things would never change for us, as for too long, the (misleading) impression was created that this was what was going to happen. And then it didn't.
Anyway, as I said: I am completely with you, here.
@@marge2548 Safety and Security is the same word in German, maybe It's my fault. People complain about both missing, but only safety loss, in matter of things are unpredictable changing, is real.
While security/criminality is almost unchanged, but artificially blown up by right wing "prophets".
Spain wouldn't be Spain if we hadn't spent the last... uh... since the Peninsula first got two human tribes... mixing with anybody who happens along.
For that matter, neither would Germany!
This is always the problem with these kind of zealots. What date are you going to put on the closing date for legally being part of the true people. The likes of Putin will use one date, others another date. I think it is an insane idea, but IF the leaders of the world could actually agree on a date, 1066, 1400, 1879, 1918, then it would still be a daft idea, but at least we would all know where we stand.
I wouldn't be surprised if they chose 1945 🤔
Thanks again, Austria 🤦🏻
How?
Thank You for bringing this up in the way you did. You had a very important message. I hope it finds the right ears 🙏🏼✌🏼
Please don't believe these propaganda lies. None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_
Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....?
Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Thank you
So raping kids is fine to you becourse it has happened before? So everything that has happened in the past is ok to happen again, is that your opinion? Just becourse it happened once doesnt mean we should be fine with it happening again.
You were right about the comment section that’s for sure.
"A far right activist from Austria..." That reminds me of someone else from the same part of the world in the same occupation doing the same thing. It didn't end well...
*Please don't believe these propaganda lies!* None of it is true - it's _not_ about "deporting" foreigners _in general_ (there are many migrants among the AfD voters as well as in the party itself!!); it's only about illegal migrants & _criminal_ foreigners. There had been participants from _a number_ of parties and groups; it was far from being an "AfD meeting", and was very loose alltogether; very loose talks; nothing "official"! Everyone claiming otherwise _is lying!_ Please also note: that so-called "secret" meeting was in November - why wait two months to publish it...? And why publish it _during the farmer's protests,_ huh....? Last but not least: that "Correctiv"-Stasi is in part financed _by the government_ - did you know _that...?_ I guess not.
Hitler actually considered himself "socialist", the Nazi Party had more in common with today's left than today's right.
Of course their main gripes are with people with darker skin. But first they come for...
Isolated cultures. Hum... Easter Island maybe? The North Sentinelese. And the Inuit were pretty isolated too. However it is probably not a wise idea to take much inspiration from cultures of a couple of thousand people living quite that remotely.
Not even Easter Island... the inhabitants were Polynesians whose origin is supposedly in what is now Guangdong/China
@@ronin667 Not China. All Austronesian peoples (of which the Polynesians are a part) of today are thought to have originated in Taiwan, and some of them still live there.
Japan tried to isolate themselves until the world came to them in the shape of a modern battleship.
@@mg4361 And of course Japan was massively influenced by Chinese culture throughout its history.
I like the North Sentinelese: "in 2018 an American Christian missionary, 26-year-old John Chau, was killed after he illegally attempted to make contact with the islanders" (Wikipedia). Missionary-eating cannibals. That tribe must be protected at all cost!
An Austrian coming to the potsdam to pitch the idea for deportation sure sounds like something a really bad fiction writer would use as the prelude to the novels third world war, yet here we are. Seems like History is far less creative and much more repetitive then we think.
ah yes..germans ..from wanting to end some European populations in name of ideology ..to wanting to end all European populations in name of ideology
and as always "they do not know "
and all folks opposing the government are "extremists" opposed to the very existence of the society