I would definitely pick up the Riposte maneuver, so when you get attacked and it's a hit use Uncanny Dodge and if it's a miss use Riposte to Sneak Attack back as Swashbuckler.
also can throw in "Brace" for a similar function, when an enemy moves up to you, use your reaction to attack it. sorta like polearm master's thing, but you can apply SA as a swashbuckler with it
5:58 Multiclassing into fighter grants martial weapons. Unless you specifically want heavy armor, you should start rogue. You'll still get martial prof.
Generally speaking, you'll want a level split of Fighter 11/Rogue 9 or Rogue 13/Fighter 7. With minor variations, you can usually squeeze 6 ASIs out of them depending on what you want out of your character, but you should also be aiming to make your build as SAD as possible, so six ASIs will typically give you plenty of stats as well as a feat or two to add flavor and utility to your builds. Edit: As a general point of reference, always take 6 levels of Fighter if it's one of the classes you're multiclassing. That extra ASI is incredibly useful and almost always worth missing some other feature. Situational Edit: For the Arcane Assassin, absolutely sink one ASI into Sharpshooter. Negate partial cover, negate long distance disadvantage, and then pair that with one level of Twilight Domain Cleric to push your Darkvision out to 300 feet. God, that's disgusting. I'm gonna do build it real fast and then never play it. 😂😢 Character link: dndbeyond.com/characters/105024182 Made her a Wood Half-Elf to get Mask of the Wild and Elven Accuracy, with Charisma to throw in 5 levels of Hexblade for some handy spells and invocations, includong Armor of Shadows and Eldritch Smite for extra damage. Has Sharpshooter and everything.
My fav Rogue/Fighter build was a Battle Master / Scout. Maneuvering Attack and Trip Attack were the character's most used maneuvers and these really helped our Sentinel tank position early and get advantage on prone enemies. The PC was also quite the skill monkey with Survivalist and an extra artisan tool proficiency.
I have a level 5 Dwarf Swashbuckler Rouge and I am about to take Fighter 1 for level 6. Nobody chooses Dwarf for a rogue, I know but he has been a beast so far! That Pirate Swashbuckler Samurai Rogue Fighter is on the horizon! Oh and… he’s a about to experience his first change in the next few sessions I think, after being bit and contracting lycanthropy :)
Personally, one of my favorite Fighter/Rogue multiclasses is a Battlemaster/Scout character (I'll be honest, I have a massive soft spot for the Scout Rogue). It'd primarily double down on the flavor of scouting ahead of the party, using the Battle Master's Tactical Assessment maneuver and Know Your Enemy feature to maybe help get some info on any enemy camps, enemies, etc, while providing expertise in Stealth, Nature, and Survival checks, retains a lot of the Rogue survivability, and is quite capable of providing consistently solid damage output. In fact, when I'm thinking of class builds to achieve that LotR type of Ranger, it's one of my go-to builds.
I have a character named Cassius, primarily a thief but also a psionic assassin. Both outside of combat he’s very useful when needing to get into places, in combat he’s a menace. His build is 9 levels in Soulknife so he can teleport around, 6 levels in Whispers Bard for the extra damage from the Bards Psychic Blades feature being powered by his Bardic Inspiration die, and 5 levels in Psi-Warrior. And since he’s a knife thrower he has Dueling (Since Dueling only states that you need to make an attack with a melee weapon, and not a Melee Attack, and since the Soul Blades are Melee Weapons, they get the +2 to damage, and he also has the Thrown Weapon fighting style, for that additional +2). When his Dex was maxed out he had a +9 to his damage rolls, so with all of his attacks he’d be doing at the very least 30 damage, just from the blades, not counting in the additional 3d6 from the Bard’s feature, or the Psionic Strike. All the while not leaving a single mark on the body. My favorite thing about Cas was that he also had the Actor feat, which when paired with the Bard’s Mantle of Shadow feature, expertise in Deception, and guidance made him excellent at impersonating people as well. Build was M.A.D as hell but still fun.
Did you consider also dipping paladin? I love the idea of wrecking them with a divine smite, smite spell, sneak attack and psychic blades without leaving a mark. Whispers does allow you to than turn into them and what creature would survive something like that? The 2 work really nicely together (paladin like duel wielding, get the dueling fighting style, but not the dual wielding fighting style. With soulknife you can duel wield without needing that fighting leaving room for dueling style. If you have a way of getting fog cloud, from Triton or ally etc I do like the blind fighting style) and either fighter or bard is of course always something that you can add to a build with paladin.
My choice for a race here would be Bugbears. The extra reach with their long arms really allows for some interesting plans (sentinel is busted here) but also, if you're going for the sniper archetype, the Bugbears extra 2d6 from surprise attack is devastating. Also helps that Bugbears are my favourite race
Level 17 assassin rogue. Level 3 champion fighter. 3 champion fighter for the increased chance to crit, which is always fun and really useful. 17 assassin rogue for assassinate, maximised sneak damage, all the useful rogue features like evasion and death strike. I'd have to call it "A Grizzly Death." Because grizzly bear, bugbear. And because a grizzled stump is likely all that's left after a headshot
I’m pretty sure the long arms only works on your turn, so it wouldn’t matter too much to the opportunity attacks of sentinel. You’d still have ur normal finesse rapier range, unless ur dm allowed you to have long arms at all times rather than specifically when you attack.
@@agedgouda8809 if its when you attack that would account for reaction attacks as well wouldn't it? Its still you attacking even if its not your turn.But I've also had dms rule it that I always have long arms anyway because its silly to think Bug bears arms just shrink when they aren't being hostile.
My current build is Assassin + Rune knight. While it’s hard to sell from a flavor perspective, the cloud rune allows advantage on all sleight of hand and deception checks, which is super handy in day to day utility stuff, by tasking five levels in fighter and then the rest in rogue, I can action surge on the first round for four critical hits on a surprised enemy, doubled sneak attack damage, other rune damage if I’ve taken another, as well as the poisons I personally use. I did 166 damage in one round last session at level 11!
A Halfling Arcane Assassin Rogue/Arcane Archer Fighter with the Luck Feat would be NASTY!!!!!!!! Throw in Magic Initiate for Druid get Guidance and Mold Earth (instant full cover). Lots of great choice for the level 1 spell. Also take Fey Touched for Misty Step and Silvery Barbs for even more dice manipulation 😁
I've done a few of these. The Thief/Battlemaster for a non-magical battlefield healer is pretty good, I used vHuman to get Healer at lv1, then went into Fighter after Rogue 3, taking Crusher at lv4 to make sure I wouldn't have to burn a Pushing Attack to always move enemies into stuff like caltrops with my sling attacks. Thief/battlemaster is also pretty good for a bounty hunter style build, with crossbow expert and sharpshooter you can throw a net at either close or long range without disadvantage, even as a bonus action with Quick Toss. Upon seeing the comment about action surge on this video, that got me thinking of net toss with Quick toss, 2x hand crossbow shots vs a restrained opponent, action surge, ready an attack if they try to escape the net. Another build that crossed my mind was a Hobgoblin Mastermind 3/Battlemaster X, where you could use the help action as a bonus in general, occasionally peppering in the hobgoblin help buffs, and use one of your attacks to deliver your own sneak attack, and commander's strike to hand off your other attack to an ally, buffed with advantage from your help.
re Battle Master vs Samurai (9:43) If mainly you're concerned about getting advantage the Battle Master can get four of them per long rest vs the Samurai getting three per long rest. Also, Battle Masters can sneak attack on enemy's turns using Riposte or Brace.
Be a Harengon. Take the Alert feat asap. You should be going first all the time. The Harengon gets that leap away ability too. Just in case you’re stuck between a rock and a hard place
This was a triple multiclass with a dip in a fourth. Twilight Gloom Assassin Master. 8/8 split between gloom stalker and Assasin, 4 in Fighter for action surge and other features (you pick whatever subclass) and one level in Twilight cleric. Take sharpshooter feat and now you have a 300ft range Assasin that sneak attacks with advantage in dim light against darkvision but can also shoot you from 300 ft away with his Longbow. Having trouble remaining invisible to dragons? Have no fear, just stay 300 ft away. Change positions after your first shot with the extra 10ft movement and attack your opponents from so far away they have no idea what hit them. Then vanish into dim light and do it again.
I've been wanting to do soulknife psi warrior ever since tashas came out. This week i start a level 6 to 12 game playing a reborn soulknife psi warrior who's whole thing is just being a master thief. Memories from another life plus psi bolstered knack makes it so hard to fail skill checks and the telekinetic movement feature makes stealing so much easier. I also thought about the potential of being locked in a jail... literally none of your features require you to have any weapons, gear, focuses... so you can telekinetic movement a set of keys to you and use psychic blades to fight your way out. On top of being the group skill monkey, telekinetic moments can get allies to and from positions super easily and I personally find the protective field to be better than uncanny Dodge since it's more consistent and doesn't have to target yourself. Between psychic blades, skill boosts, telepathy, telekinesis, awesome damage boosts, and awesome ways to protect allies, I really think this is one of the most overall and all around useful rogue fighter builds in any party. Reborn is just an extra cool touch to it as well since you can watch over the party as they rest and get extra dice to skill checks. And with thrown weapon fighting style, you get quite an amazing built in psychic kill shot at 60 ft range, not even accounting for psionic strike.
You don't lose ASI if you lvl up right. Take 12 levels in rogue and with rogue extra asi in 10th you have the asi increase at 4,8,10,12 levels. Then take 8 levels in fighter you get their asi level at 4,6,8 which is a total of 7 which is the same as straight fighter.
I personally think the Samurai part of Ronin can be replaced with Battle Master. Using the Feinting Attack action, you get advantage on your next attack on another creature within 5 feet and you get to add your superiority die to the damage. It's exchanging temp HP for damage, so you'd have to lean a bit more into Con or AC, but it's an excellent way of making your numbers more numbery.
I think instead of arcane archer, id go battle master and then by level 8 youd have 4 attacks, all crits which you can add a superiority dice to for an insane nova round and with the ambush fighting style you can add your superiority doce to initiative to help ensure the assassination
I recommend rogue 1 or 2, gloomstalker ranger 5 , then back to rogue for the rest of the byild. Scout rogue works well, but thief, assassin, and arcane trickster work well too. At character level 5, you're invisible in darkness and have 2 attacks the first round if combat. After 5 levels of ranger, that's 3 attacks the first round, and 2 every round after that. +1 to both if using crossbow expert with a hand crossbow. Gloomstalker gives a bonus to initiative based on wis so that'll help you go first, so it can be a good assassin build. 5 levels of ranger also gives you Pass Without Trace for +10 to stealth to help get surprise
My favorite multi-class thusfar was a varient human fighter rogue that took the Tavern Brawler feat to be a sort of Gladiator type fighter. I chose Battle Master and Swashbuckler as the subclasses, this allowed me to be quite versitile with positioning and while using only a short sword could let me grapple opponents while stabbing them repeatedly with sneak attacks. Can't say it's the most powerful but combat was always engaging... unless we were fighting something that was too big, not the best then. Still a fun build though, would be great for a campaign where you only fought humanoids.
I went with something similar. My variant human was lost in the fey wild. In spite of the time spent there, he struggled to adopt traditional magic, but was trained in traditional combat anyways. As he grew, the fey wild left him boon as a sign of friendship from faerie dragons and a child of the fey wild, which was a reflavored Aberrant Dragonmark. When the time came, he did develop his own magic powers, but it was a little different. He took up Echo Knight and Soulknife because those are two subclasses that are kind of magic, but don’t use mental ability scores. The appearances of the subclass abilities and the Aberrant Dragonmark were given a gentle glow from various shades of blue, indigo, and violet as a reminder of the faerie dragons that protected him as a child. In short, he played like a slippery little bastard that would warp around the battlefield and refuse to be pin downed and attack with magic blades every once in a while; either from the Soulknife traits or the Sword Burst from the Dragonmark. It wasn’t the most overpowered build, but it was definitely really fun. Speaking of which, Sword Burst is really underrated.
I'm about to do something similar but going with Rapier and Strength, Magic Initiate, Shield Master bracer to attack with sneak attack rapier with booming blade, move and then bonus action throw a haymaker with the bracer shield to knock prone guy in front of fighter then move back while talking trash.
I've been working on something similar but I went with the rune knight subclass and goliath race both for flavour and the fact that with the goliath feature (can't remember the name currently) let's me grapple huge creatures and using the enlarge spell he can in theory also grapple gargantuan creatures. Rogue also gave me expertise in athletics and since I am focusing on strength means that he will very rarely be unable to grapple an opponent. Still don't know what rogue subclass to go yet though as I think most can work so I'm open to suggestions.
I like the idea of combining soul knife with either eldritch knight or rune knight. If we want more rogue we take rune knight (minimum of 7) if we want more fighter we take eldritch knight (11 to 13) assuming on a build to 20.
Gerald Worthsome: V. Human ranged 7fighter(samurai)/1rouge with a heavy crossbow, sharpshooter, and crossbow expert. I'll also use a hand crossbow with a shield if I need to tank. Been very lucky on hp dice, so I have strong hp. The rest of the party are spell casters, so they need me on the front line; funny since it's a ranged build. I plan on getting at least 11 levels in fighter and 3 in rouge(assassin) before the campaign ends. Strong ranged damage output paired with lots of hp+ temporary hp from fighting spirit makes for a character that can take hits and dish them out. Should also note that the campaign is a stealthy/rouge-based campaign, so character strength is heavily dependent on what type of campaign you are playing in. I think a ranged samurai assassin can be very strong since it consistently gives you ways to gain advantage.
I'm about to play a character that has 11 levels in assassin rogue, and 3 levels in eldritch knight fighter, designed as an infiltration expert that can walk up to guards, be patted down while wielding no weapons, and then spawn a rapier once inside and about to kill someone
Party of 3 here and currently a mark of shadow elf lvl 4 assassin. I’m revolving around daggers primarily with a touch of range because most times that just works better. I have elvin accuracy feat so far and I maxed out my dex already. The arcane archer looked good for that big damage but can’t revolve that on daggers.
Thanks for your awesome videos! Great job. Im deeping in a rogue-shadow sorcerer multiclass. Just got 5 levels in rogue (arcane trickster so I got shield, absorb elements and find familiar for fun), and waiting to get 3 levels in shadow sorcerer to get Darkness spell, cast it with sorcery points, so I can see through my own darkness, gettin advantaje with booming blade and stepping back every turn without triggering oportunity atacks as I am in heavy obscurement. I have boots of elvenkind so I can hide with advantage as a bonus action . Sounds fun. 😉
You can't see through magical darkness unless you have devilsight; tremorsense and blindfighting will allow you to sense enemies, though not strictly 'see' them.
You don't have to do for dexterity as you main stat you can still do sneak attack if you use strength - the weapon just have to be finesse weapon. I was thinking of making a smugler type fighter/rouge type character with high strength with the sailor background and expertise in Athletics. I would take most of my levels in rouge with the Swashbuckler Archetype and 3-5 levels in fighter with the Battle Master Archetype. I would take the Brace and the Riposte Maneuvers from the Battle Master and Sentinel feat to get a extra sneak attack as a reaction during my opponents turn. It's probably not the most powerfull build every - I just think it would be a lot fun.
That's brutal I love it unfortunately my gm limits me to the players handbook so no such insanity for me but those sound like some really powerful builds. I especially like the samurai swashbuckler Pirate combo that sounds amazing. Once again Patrick, informative and fun. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with all of us.
Limited to the PHB sounds awful lol, so many other fun subclass/race options and I can’t believe you’re stuck with the same shit from 2015. Go get yourself a new DM lol. If someone had told me that I would’ve just dropped out of the campaign
i went rogue fighter multiclass. got to 10th lvl. i went eogue at 1st then i was switching between fighter and rogue. rogue subclass was assassin and fighter was gunslinger. i worked with my dm for approval. i miss that game. had fun
One of my favorite fighter/rogue multiclass builds is assassin rogue mixed with echo knight fighter. The reason being is that this allows you to repeated surprise an opponent during combat for massive critical sneak attacks every round simply by attacking from your echo's location then resummoning the echo next round. Such a build can readily be pulled off by 6th level with 3 levels in rogue and fighter. I'd advise picking up the skulker feat, ritual caster feat, shadow touched, and elven accuracy if you can get it. Ritual caster is especially good since it allows you to get regular advantage with the help action from an unseen servant or familiar.
Started building a new Lvl 3 Inquisitive Rogue for my party's monthly campaign, contemplating taking some levels of Battle Master Fighter to better synergize with my Urban Bounty Hunter background and use some Maneuvers for my reactions for those moments I'm up close with my rapier instead of out of range with my hand crossbow.
@@youtubecensorship842 I've actually been having lots of fun with him so far! I chose the subclass because Inquisitives get advantage to perception/investigation checks later in game. Also Insightful Fighting has been super useful, especially with Mobile for melee combat
Could consider a Rogue multiclass for my Gunslinger. Stacking Deadeye Shot for an easy Sneak Attack or using Steady Aim for auto advantage and 2 grit burned for Violent Shot could be interesting.
Soulknife 13 psi warrior 7 so you can fly go invisible teleport telekinesis telepathy plus to hit, skills, and damage with the ability to push or knock prone not to mention a way to reduce damage to Allies. The you still have 6 feats to do what you want with… but I recommend sharpshooter lucky and tough. go changling so you can change your appearance and live you best Ultimate infiltrator life! ✌️
One important correction to the multiclassing but is that going into Fighter still gives you all martial weapons! They only actually miss out on heavy armor and that’s it! So honestly going rogue into fighter is the best for Dex builds of all kinds! The only caveat is if you do any casting builds where con saves are SUPER important for utilizing the eldritch knight and arcane trickster archetypes and their limited spell slots. Though you could easily offset this by going var. Human and taking resilience CON or waiting till either class’ 4th level asi since the magic will be late to turn on anyways. Plus you have to suffice off of racial spells and feats for magic up till levels 3-5 anyways.
Technically the Assassin's class feature that grants you a critical hit, ONLY applies on an enemy that is surprised. Given that surprise rules can be highly DM dependent, and that Initiative is very important when trying to leverage the surprised condition, I doubt players would have as much fun with the Arcane Assassin as with the other builds mentioned.
I like your ronin but when I made something similar I was debating on swashbuckler or phantom and went with phantom because I enjoyed that more. I also used heavy armor, a bow, and went full into sneak. Even with disadvantage I was still rolling a +17 but with boots of elven kind it mitigated that.
I know it’s been a year since you made this, but I finally saw it, & I instantly thought of 17 lvls phantom rogue & 3 lvls echo knight fighter, get booming blade or green flame blade from a feat & just focus on a shit ton of damage, 9D6 sneak attack dice + 5D6 necrotic + dex mod damage = around 54 damage per attack with another enemy within 30ft of the target taking 17.5 necrotic damage, go any elf with even accuracy & O boy, the crit damage when it hits
Your critique of the Samurai/Swashbuckler was good but you neglected a couple of points regarding using Battle Master instead of Samurai: 1) Many of the Maneuvers available add their Maneuver die to the damage of the attack, including Feinting Attack. So, that's Advantage for the Sneak Attack, plus the weapon damage, plus Dex bonus, plus Sneak Attack dice, PLUS the Maneuver die. 2) Out of the gate, the Battle Master gets 4 Superiority dice per short rest while the Samurai gets Fighting Spirit three times per long rest. The big decision of which to take is based on whether you're going to take more Fighter or Rogue levels since Maneuvers only count for the current attack while Fighting Spirit counts for ALL attacks that turn. I love your channel. Your martini-dry sense of humor is a nice change from the typical 'I'm so zany!' style of youtuber.
My build is Rogue-Assassin(15)/Fighter-Champion(5) with Elvin Accuracy and Alert. No advantage on me by enemies I can see, reroll of a dice when I have advantage, 2 attacks per turn, and crits with either 19 or 18 roll. One of my party members gives advantage to the other party members when he's in in mele combat with an enemy and seeing that he is usually always doing that and I tend to be farther away, I get advantage often. My party really does a good job of using each others builds to choose our roles to boost the party more than just our individual selves. I am probably the weakest fighter in the party and would die first if we all faugt each other, but we do pretty good I think.
Couple things to point out that might not be clear to people. Psychic Blades and Extra Attack don't mesh well. You can only manifest one Psychic Blade per attack action, so you need another weapon for 2nd attack. Also unless you do things in right order, it could interfere with the bonus action Psychic Blade. Also, for Assassin, attacks are only critical hits if they are surprise. Not just if you go before enemy. Most tables I've played at, it is not easy to get surprise on the enemies, and in cases where you can, you're usually alone fighting the rest of the creatures for a round or two waiting for party to catch up.
I made a Rogue/Fighter Giff that uses guns. The GM has put us in a Steampunk World based on the 1920's Gangster era. Rogue I started there alternated to level 6 to get the sub-classes. I then went Assassin and CR-Gunslinger. Then went to level 4 Fighter and 10 levels in Rogue the party is level 14. Sharpshooter, Skilled, and then ASI to Dex. from Rogue. Then Gunner feat from Fighter. Was thinking about caping my Fighter levels at 5 for the extra attack a round. But will be continuing Rogue levels from then on.
for Psi-Knife you want a TCL of 16 (Fighter 7/Rogue 9) which means you get 10d8 Psionic Energy Dice for both Subclasses. What do you do with the other for levels? idk, you can either bump your Psi Warrior dice up to d10, or you can split it to go Rogue 11/Fighter 9.
Outstanding video. I have subscribed. I am about to play 3 phantom rogue 3 echo knight then phantom rogue for the rest. The echo will be the same ghost that applies in my phantom rogue part.
I'm playing a Battlemaster 3 / Swashbuckler 3 Changeling knight in a campaign right now that fights in half plate with a shield and rapier and it's been a blast. There are so many options on my turn between manuvers and cunning action. Feinting attack almost always gurantees sneak attack in niche situations where Rakish Audacity doesn't work, and I can punish enemies when they miss against my 19 AC with a sneak attack Riposte. I would also argue it's more effecttive than the Swashbuckler/Samurai combo since superiority die are more plentiful abd come back on a short rest vs fighting spirit on a long rest. Not to mention I'm the face of the party and damn good at it with 14 charisma, expertise on persuassion and adding an additional d8 with commanding presscense. I can rival and eloquence bard.
Question: how does an attack made with advantage using an assassin rogue translate into an auto crit? RAW states in order for a crit here, the creature you're attacking has to be surprised, or have the surprised condition.
This is a good channel. Just found it and I do like the format. The one thing I feel you can refine to attract more subs is to try and work on not “reading the script” as much and try a more natural flow to your talking points. It’ll come across as less lecture(y) and should build a more natural connection with your audience. I don’t mean for this to be rude, or critical…I just like your content and would like to see you grow. Thanks for the build ideas/info, I’ll definitely chew on it before I apply my first level advancement.
Hey I don’t know if this was changed or not but the assassinate feature for the assassin rouge stats that successful attacks auto crit on surprised targets, not targets that haven’t gone in combat. Thought this would be important. Loved the vid regardless
I suggest 3 levels rogue then one level fighter then 2 more rogue then the rest fighter till 5th level then rogue to 7 then fighter for the rest of the game. The one level dip just for shield proficiency
If you are making a melee fighting that isn’t a hit and run type, with steady aim you would have advantage every round you are hacking at your opponent.
I'm currently working on an 11/9 Rune Knight Fighter, Wild Card Rogue. I know it's far from optimized but it adds a decent bit of role-play opportunity. I'd love to get your thoughts on this and which feats you recommend. I'm currently only a 3rd level fighter.
So I have a build question. I have a level 2 rouge, which I plan to take the Assassin archetype as it fits his backstory. However, now that I’ve seen this video, I’d like to multi class as a fighter. My character is a bit more of a melee fighter, though, which clashes with the much more ranged build presented in the video, and I don’t entirely plan on switching to a ranged fighting style. So my question is this: what is the most optimal build for a rouge with the assassin archetype, multiclassing as a fighter, and still keeping that melee fighting style?
Looking for some feedback on a Rogue-Fighter character I'm currently playing. I'm 2-2 and trying to decide what road to go down. I'm currently using two-weapon fighting with two handcrossbows (not sure if there is a better path). I'm thinking of going assassin for my next level, but after that not sure, maybe fill out the fighter side... Which path for fighter would compliment the hand crossbow build, or should I consider moving away from those? Appreicate any thoughts.
I am thinking about a tebaxi swashbuckler rogue/battle master fighter with dual rapiers it’s why I will go fighter first to get two weapon fighting style yes I could rapiers either way but lose the level one ability to attack with a second rapier(which more likely my dm would allow me to take dual wielder feat so long as I take a background without a feat which works cause my background will be pirate) and get my dex mod to damage on second attack
if hasted does the Fighter get Action, Surge Action and Haste action, Bonus action and reaction on their turn? Both the haste and surge say you gain an action where as the hasted action is limited to 1 attack or dash/disengage etc. So for example: A hasted fighter could dash in (ba) attack(na), attack(sa) and disengage(ha).
Lets take the Arcane Assassin and give it a weird twist with CriticalRole Content. 2lvl Artificer/3lvl Inquisive Rogue/15lvl Gunslinger Fighter. You get a better Long Range and better Shots but looses a lot of Sneak Attack. But with all of the different Weapon Types you are more versitile and if you get your Hands on something like the Eyes of Eagle you could get Multiple Rounds of Bombardment even before the Enemy reaches you.
I only recently started researching this game (have not played yet) and I was wondering if this would be a good build. A Harengon fighter rogue who dashes in, attacks, and jumps back out of combat using a two-handed sword. I might also dip into monk to increase the jump speed but don't know if it can be done well yet. This probably won't be a very stealthy build, just using rogue to increase dueling capacity. Perhaps phantom rogue to move through solid walls and such, increase escape ability.
Fuck, I broke the Samurai/Swashbuckler build. I made a Harengon, and took it to Rogue 10/Fighter 8 to get those ASIs squeezed in, then added two levels of Twilight Cleric. Vigilant Blessing gives you advantage on Initiative. Hare-Trigger lets you add your PB to Initiative, and Rakish Audacity lets you add your CHA modifier to it, totaling out to +16 to your initiative *and* advantage on it. Where is a 20th level one-shot going on?
can someone explain what he means by the auto crit? It sounds like it just works if you (the rouge) attack before any creature on the field. Example: 3 goblins and you, G1 rolls 18 Init. G2 rolls 17, you roll 15 and G3 a 3, So you attack G3 and get advantage (sneak attack) because it has not had its turn yet while G1 and 2 have AND it crits? so it is no longer based on surprise??
This may be bit of a stretch, but kinda got me looking and thinking. What you think of possibly an Echo-Mind build? Effectively a multiclass between the Fighter Echo Knight and Rogue Mastermind. May be up to the DM if they'd allow your Echo to do more than just "move there and attack when I do". Like if your Echo could also give the 30ft Help action from Master of Tactics, or make use of any of your skills and be a semi-risk free scout (especially with Echo Avatar at Fighter 7, 8 for ASI) and trap remover. Could summon them to help you flank enemies though (if DM using Flanking rules), and with Misdirect, keep your Echo near you to be your "shield" as it were. Could also use your Echo as a sort of distraction both in and out of combat
So , My DM likes to promote multiclassing , So , He allows our player character's total level upto 40 , So , You have to multiclass , My DM also considers ASI according to total level rather than class level and gives us our Level 20 features at Level 18 and at Level 20 , We get the epic boon and the ASI that can be more than 20. I am planning on doing a Barbarian/Rouge/Fighter , Any ideas???
Some important things I should probably mention :- 1. You can use sneak attack any number of times you want in a turn 2. Same with reckless attack 3. Rage doesn't require a Bonus action to enter , You can just choose to enter rage 4. Action surge is applied for every single turn , So You get 2 actions starting from level 2 , Every turn , Without even a short or long rest 5. Extra Attack stacks , So , 1 Barbarian extra attack and 1 Fighter extra attack equals 2 extra attacks in total 6. Unarmored defence still works when wearing light armor (He is still thinking about this one though , He might remove it)
Oh Yeah , I am also dumping Charisma , Wisdom and intelligence , They are gonna stay at eight , Even if the build doesn't require dexterity , It is still useful for AC and Initiative
I'm having a tough time deciding what path to take for my rogue! Should I do arcane trickster with the mobile feat and maybe a few levels of fighter? Or double down on the swashbuckler few levels of fighter and magic initiate feat? Too hard to choose! Please help.
@@SkullSplitter hmm. . . Both would be fun as heck. I've gotten so wrapped up in how to optimize the character I forgot about that part honestly 😅. Swashbuckler would be the most fun! Now to choose the right feats. . .
@@ryanstough377 I'm going arcane trickster/battlemaster for shenanigans (cantrips: booming blade and minor illusion, 1st level spells are absorb elements, id insinuation and silvery barbs) though looking at echo knight also. I started rogue and will be hitting 5 levels in fighter for extra attack then back to rogue. Battle master maneuvers will probably be trip attack, disarming attack and feint/riposte (haven't fully settled on the last one). Edit: My character is a female drow called Jax in a homebrew setting with no Llolth; our DM has used the amnesia trick and is revealing our backstories as we go along. It does make roleplaying a bit more awkward because we know next to nothing about our characters or the world they are in.
Yo. I need some serious help. I'm doing a close to homebrew campaign but i haven't played in over a decade. The idea for my character is Blood Hunter/Were-bear. The dm has signed off and is actively looking for a way to make the class above a C+ tier class lol. My character is a Goliath Blood Hunter, lycan order. Goes werebear.. Is a Shipwright and is Chaotic Good. Any tips/tricks on how you might build such a class? Given that the DM is open to suggested on improving it ect. Thanks man! Anything is appreciated.
@@Almighty_Mage ...But you miss out on 2 expertise points, and 2 extra proficiency's. Depends on if you're going straight combat/survivability, or utility. I much prefer the latter.
I would definitely pick up the Riposte maneuver, so when you get attacked and it's a hit use Uncanny Dodge and if it's a miss use Riposte to Sneak Attack back as Swashbuckler.
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that's not how Uncanny Dodge works - it halves damage from an attack that already hit.
@@kylar101 Yeah, so then if you're hit, you'll use your reaction on Uncanny Dodge, and if you didn't get hit, you can use it for Riposte 👍
Riposte is nice if you find yourself fighting alone. Sentinel is nice when fighting next to a cavalier, ancestral guardian, or armorer.
also can throw in "Brace" for a similar function, when an enemy moves up to you, use your reaction to attack it. sorta like polearm master's thing, but you can apply SA as a swashbuckler with it
I hate being this guy, but the assassinate auto crits only trigger on surprised targets
5:58 Multiclassing into fighter grants martial weapons. Unless you specifically want heavy armor, you should start rogue. You'll still get martial prof.
Generally speaking, you'll want a level split of Fighter 11/Rogue 9 or Rogue 13/Fighter 7. With minor variations, you can usually squeeze 6 ASIs out of them depending on what you want out of your character, but you should also be aiming to make your build as SAD as possible, so six ASIs will typically give you plenty of stats as well as a feat or two to add flavor and utility to your builds.
Edit: As a general point of reference, always take 6 levels of Fighter if it's one of the classes you're multiclassing. That extra ASI is incredibly useful and almost always worth missing some other feature.
Situational Edit: For the Arcane Assassin, absolutely sink one ASI into Sharpshooter. Negate partial cover, negate long distance disadvantage, and then pair that with one level of Twilight Domain Cleric to push your Darkvision out to 300 feet. God, that's disgusting. I'm gonna do build it real fast and then never play it. 😂😢
Character link: dndbeyond.com/characters/105024182
Made her a Wood Half-Elf to get Mask of the Wild and Elven Accuracy, with Charisma to throw in 5 levels of Hexblade for some handy spells and invocations, includong Armor of Shadows and Eldritch Smite for extra damage. Has Sharpshooter and everything.
i preffer Fighter 5/Rogue 14/Cleric 1 with War Domain
I like 7/3 fighter rogue most games wont run much farther past 10th level expertise and sneak attack while being in the front helps out immensely
This is and has always been my favorite character type to play. Classic, potent, and fun. Always welcome at any table.
My fav Rogue/Fighter build was a Battle Master / Scout. Maneuvering Attack and Trip Attack were the character's most used maneuvers and these really helped our Sentinel tank position early and get advantage on prone enemies. The PC was also quite the skill monkey with Survivalist and an extra artisan tool proficiency.
I have a level 5 Dwarf Swashbuckler Rouge and I am about to take Fighter 1 for level 6. Nobody chooses Dwarf for a rogue, I know but he has been a beast so far! That Pirate Swashbuckler Samurai Rogue Fighter is on the horizon! Oh and… he’s a about to experience his first change in the next few sessions I think, after being bit and contracting lycanthropy :)
Personally, one of my favorite Fighter/Rogue multiclasses is a Battlemaster/Scout character (I'll be honest, I have a massive soft spot for the Scout Rogue). It'd primarily double down on the flavor of scouting ahead of the party, using the Battle Master's Tactical Assessment maneuver and Know Your Enemy feature to maybe help get some info on any enemy camps, enemies, etc, while providing expertise in Stealth, Nature, and Survival checks, retains a lot of the Rogue survivability, and is quite capable of providing consistently solid damage output. In fact, when I'm thinking of class builds to achieve that LotR type of Ranger, it's one of my go-to builds.
I think thats definitely a pretty potent multiclass. Nice for a swashbuckler to get shield proficiency but also nice for bow/crossbow rogues
I have a character named Cassius, primarily a thief but also a psionic assassin. Both outside of combat he’s very useful when needing to get into places, in combat he’s a menace. His build is 9 levels in Soulknife so he can teleport around, 6 levels in Whispers Bard for the extra damage from the Bards Psychic Blades feature being powered by his Bardic Inspiration die, and 5 levels in Psi-Warrior. And since he’s a knife thrower he has Dueling (Since Dueling only states that you need to make an attack with a melee weapon, and not a Melee Attack, and since the Soul Blades are Melee Weapons, they get the +2 to damage, and he also has the Thrown Weapon fighting style, for that additional +2). When his Dex was maxed out he had a +9 to his damage rolls, so with all of his attacks he’d be doing at the very least 30 damage, just from the blades, not counting in the additional 3d6 from the Bard’s feature, or the Psionic Strike. All the while not leaving a single mark on the body. My favorite thing about Cas was that he also had the Actor feat, which when paired with the Bard’s Mantle of Shadow feature, expertise in Deception, and guidance made him excellent at impersonating people as well.
Build was M.A.D as hell but still fun.
Did you consider also dipping paladin? I love the idea of wrecking them with a divine smite, smite spell, sneak attack and psychic blades without leaving a mark. Whispers does allow you to than turn into them and what creature would survive something like that?
The 2 work really nicely together (paladin like duel wielding, get the dueling fighting style, but not the dual wielding fighting style. With soulknife you can duel wield without needing that fighting leaving room for dueling style. If you have a way of getting fog cloud, from Triton or ally etc I do like the blind fighting style) and either fighter or bard is of course always something that you can add to a build with paladin.
My choice for a race here would be Bugbears. The extra reach with their long arms really allows for some interesting plans (sentinel is busted here) but also, if you're going for the sniper archetype, the Bugbears extra 2d6 from surprise attack is devastating. Also helps that Bugbears are my favourite race
What would you call this dread ambusher?
Level 17 assassin rogue.
Level 3 champion fighter.
3 champion fighter for the increased chance to crit, which is always fun and really useful.
17 assassin rogue for assassinate, maximised sneak damage, all the useful rogue features like evasion and death strike.
I'd have to call it "A Grizzly Death." Because grizzly bear, bugbear. And because a grizzled stump is likely all that's left after a headshot
I’m pretty sure the long arms only works on your turn, so it wouldn’t matter too much to the opportunity attacks of sentinel. You’d still have ur normal finesse rapier range, unless ur dm allowed you to have long arms at all times rather than specifically when you attack.
@@agedgouda8809 if its when you attack that would account for reaction attacks as well wouldn't it? Its still you attacking even if its not your turn.But I've also had dms rule it that I always have long arms anyway because its silly to think Bug bears arms just shrink when they aren't being hostile.
@@rocksnrolls 1 level of hexblade warlock would also give you the increased crit range, then 2 fighter for action surge and second wind.
My current build is Assassin + Rune knight. While it’s hard to sell from a flavor perspective, the cloud rune allows advantage on all sleight of hand and deception checks, which is super handy in day to day utility stuff, by tasking five levels in fighter and then the rest in rogue, I can action surge on the first round for four critical hits on a surprised enemy, doubled sneak attack damage, other rune damage if I’ve taken another, as well as the poisons I personally use. I did 166 damage in one round last session at level 11!
A Halfling Arcane Assassin Rogue/Arcane Archer Fighter with the Luck Feat would be NASTY!!!!!!!! Throw in Magic Initiate for Druid get Guidance and Mold Earth (instant full cover). Lots of great choice for the level 1 spell. Also take Fey Touched for Misty Step and Silvery Barbs for even more dice manipulation 😁
I've done a few of these.
The Thief/Battlemaster for a non-magical battlefield healer is pretty good, I used vHuman to get Healer at lv1, then went into Fighter after Rogue 3, taking Crusher at lv4 to make sure I wouldn't have to burn a Pushing Attack to always move enemies into stuff like caltrops with my sling attacks. Thief/battlemaster is also pretty good for a bounty hunter style build, with crossbow expert and sharpshooter you can throw a net at either close or long range without disadvantage, even as a bonus action with Quick Toss. Upon seeing the comment about action surge on this video, that got me thinking of net toss with Quick toss, 2x hand crossbow shots vs a restrained opponent, action surge, ready an attack if they try to escape the net.
Another build that crossed my mind was a Hobgoblin Mastermind 3/Battlemaster X, where you could use the help action as a bonus in general, occasionally peppering in the hobgoblin help buffs, and use one of your attacks to deliver your own sneak attack, and commander's strike to hand off your other attack to an ally, buffed with advantage from your help.
re Battle Master vs Samurai (9:43) If mainly you're concerned about getting advantage the Battle Master can get four of them per long rest vs the Samurai getting three per long rest. Also, Battle Masters can sneak attack on enemy's turns using Riposte or Brace.
I have not tried it yet, but here shortly I will be playing a Soulknife Echo Knight gnome. Wish me luck.
Be a Harengon. Take the Alert feat asap. You should be going first all the time. The Harengon gets that leap away ability too. Just in case you’re stuck between a rock and a hard place
No echo knight rogue multiclass?
I’m currently doing an Assassin/Champion multiclass. Can’t get enough o’ them crits.
This was a triple multiclass with a dip in a fourth.
Twilight Gloom Assassin Master.
8/8 split between gloom stalker and Assasin, 4 in Fighter for action surge and other features (you pick whatever subclass) and one level in Twilight cleric. Take sharpshooter feat and now you have a 300ft range Assasin that sneak attacks with advantage in dim light against darkvision but can also shoot you from 300 ft away with his Longbow. Having trouble remaining invisible to dragons? Have no fear, just stay 300 ft away. Change positions after your first shot with the extra 10ft movement and attack your opponents from so far away they have no idea what hit them. Then vanish into dim light and do it again.
I've been wanting to do soulknife psi warrior ever since tashas came out. This week i start a level 6 to 12 game playing a reborn soulknife psi warrior who's whole thing is just being a master thief. Memories from another life plus psi bolstered knack makes it so hard to fail skill checks and the telekinetic movement feature makes stealing so much easier.
I also thought about the potential of being locked in a jail... literally none of your features require you to have any weapons, gear, focuses... so you can telekinetic movement a set of keys to you and use psychic blades to fight your way out.
On top of being the group skill monkey, telekinetic moments can get allies to and from positions super easily and I personally find the protective field to be better than uncanny Dodge since it's more consistent and doesn't have to target yourself.
Between psychic blades, skill boosts, telepathy, telekinesis, awesome damage boosts, and awesome ways to protect allies, I really think this is one of the most overall and all around useful rogue fighter builds in any party. Reborn is just an extra cool touch to it as well since you can watch over the party as they rest and get extra dice to skill checks.
And with thrown weapon fighting style, you get quite an amazing built in psychic kill shot at 60 ft range, not even accounting for psionic strike.
I love the idea of a Rogue mastermind Barbarian build where you could play like amleth in the northman
You don't lose ASI if you lvl up right. Take 12 levels in rogue and with rogue extra asi in 10th you have the asi increase at 4,8,10,12 levels. Then take 8 levels in fighter you get their asi level at 4,6,8 which is a total of 7 which is the same as straight fighter.
This is assuming you'll get 20 levels of experience which I've never had in any campaign I've played unfortunately
I personally think the Samurai part of Ronin can be replaced with Battle Master. Using the Feinting Attack action, you get advantage on your next attack on another creature within 5 feet and you get to add your superiority die to the damage. It's exchanging temp HP for damage, so you'd have to lean a bit more into Con or AC, but it's an excellent way of making your numbers more numbery.
Too be far...battle Master is able to do ANYTHING lol
It’s an option when battle master is banned at the table
I think instead of arcane archer, id go battle master and then by level 8 youd have 4 attacks, all crits which you can add a superiority dice to for an insane nova round and with the ambush fighting style you can add your superiority doce to initiative to help ensure the assassination
Those are interesting multi-classes. I would love to see a ranger rogue multiclass next. The synergy works wonders and it improves on the ranger.
Thanks. We’ll add it to the list.
I recommend rogue 1 or 2, gloomstalker ranger 5 , then back to rogue for the rest of the byild. Scout rogue works well, but thief, assassin, and arcane trickster work well too.
At character level 5, you're invisible in darkness and have 2 attacks the first round if combat. After 5 levels of ranger, that's 3 attacks the first round, and 2 every round after that. +1 to both if using crossbow expert with a hand crossbow. Gloomstalker gives a bonus to initiative based on wis so that'll help you go first, so it can be a good assassin build. 5 levels of ranger also gives you Pass Without Trace for +10 to stealth to help get surprise
@@crownlexicon5225 if you roll well enough gloomstalker and swashbuckler is great for initiative.
@@crownlexicon5225I’ve been playing a scout/gloomstalker for a year. Highly suggested. Though I did 3 levels rogue immediately. Then 5 Ranger
My favorite multi-class thusfar was a varient human fighter rogue that took the Tavern Brawler feat to be a sort of Gladiator type fighter. I chose Battle Master and Swashbuckler as the subclasses, this allowed me to be quite versitile with positioning and while using only a short sword could let me grapple opponents while stabbing them repeatedly with sneak attacks. Can't say it's the most powerful but combat was always engaging... unless we were fighting something that was too big, not the best then. Still a fun build though, would be great for a campaign where you only fought humanoids.
Nice. But what was their name?
@@SkullSplitter Claudius, because he was heavily themed on Roman gladiators.
I went with something similar. My variant human was lost in the fey wild. In spite of the time spent there, he struggled to adopt traditional magic, but was trained in traditional combat anyways. As he grew, the fey wild left him boon as a sign of friendship from faerie dragons and a child of the fey wild, which was a reflavored Aberrant Dragonmark. When the time came, he did develop his own magic powers, but it was a little different. He took up Echo Knight and Soulknife because those are two subclasses that are kind of magic, but don’t use mental ability scores. The appearances of the subclass abilities and the Aberrant Dragonmark were given a gentle glow from various shades of blue, indigo, and violet as a reminder of the faerie dragons that protected him as a child. In short, he played like a slippery little bastard that would warp around the battlefield and refuse to be pin downed and attack with magic blades every once in a while; either from the Soulknife traits or the Sword Burst from the Dragonmark. It wasn’t the most overpowered build, but it was definitely really fun. Speaking of which, Sword Burst is really underrated.
I'm about to do something similar but going with Rapier and Strength, Magic Initiate, Shield Master bracer to attack with sneak attack rapier with booming blade, move and then bonus action throw a haymaker with the bracer shield to knock prone guy in front of fighter then move back while talking trash.
I've been working on something similar but I went with the rune knight subclass and goliath race both for flavour and the fact that with the goliath feature (can't remember the name currently) let's me grapple huge creatures and using the enlarge spell he can in theory also grapple gargantuan creatures. Rogue also gave me expertise in athletics and since I am focusing on strength means that he will very rarely be unable to grapple an opponent. Still don't know what rogue subclass to go yet though as I think most can work so I'm open to suggestions.
I like the idea of combining soul knife with either eldritch knight or rune knight. If we want more rogue we take rune knight (minimum of 7) if we want more fighter we take eldritch knight (11 to 13) assuming on a build to 20.
I'm a fighter rogue in dnd and its great
Gerald Worthsome: V. Human ranged 7fighter(samurai)/1rouge with a heavy crossbow, sharpshooter, and crossbow expert. I'll also use a hand crossbow with a shield if I need to tank. Been very lucky on hp dice, so I have strong hp. The rest of the party are spell casters, so they need me on the front line; funny since it's a ranged build. I plan on getting at least 11 levels in fighter and 3 in rouge(assassin) before the campaign ends. Strong ranged damage output paired with lots of hp+ temporary hp from fighting spirit makes for a character that can take hits and dish them out. Should also note that the campaign is a stealthy/rouge-based campaign, so character strength is heavily dependent on what type of campaign you are playing in. I think a ranged samurai assassin can be very strong since it consistently gives you ways to gain advantage.
I'm about to play a character that has 11 levels in assassin rogue, and 3 levels in eldritch knight fighter, designed as an infiltration expert that can walk up to guards, be patted down while wielding no weapons, and then spawn a rapier once inside and about to kill someone
Party of 3 here and currently a mark of shadow elf lvl 4 assassin. I’m revolving around daggers primarily with a touch of range because most times that just works better. I have elvin accuracy feat so far and I maxed out my dex already. The arcane archer looked good for that big damage but can’t revolve that on daggers.
I love this build because at just lvl 4 you can dash 3 times meaning as a tabaxi meaning 240ft of movement but it dose use action surge
Thanks for your awesome videos! Great job.
Im deeping in a rogue-shadow sorcerer multiclass. Just got 5 levels in rogue (arcane trickster so I got shield, absorb elements and find familiar for fun), and waiting to get 3 levels in shadow sorcerer to get Darkness spell, cast it with sorcery points, so I can see through my own darkness, gettin advantaje with booming blade and stepping back every turn without triggering oportunity atacks as I am in heavy obscurement. I have boots of elvenkind so I can hide with advantage as a bonus action . Sounds fun. 😉
You can't see through magical darkness unless you have devilsight; tremorsense and blindfighting will allow you to sense enemies, though not strictly 'see' them.
You don't have to do for dexterity as you main stat you can still do sneak attack if you use strength - the weapon just have to be finesse weapon.
I was thinking of making a smugler type fighter/rouge type character with high strength with the sailor background and expertise in Athletics. I would take most of my levels in rouge with the Swashbuckler Archetype and 3-5 levels in fighter with the Battle Master Archetype.
I would take the Brace and the Riposte Maneuvers from the Battle Master and Sentinel feat to get a extra sneak attack as a reaction during my opponents turn.
It's probably not the most powerfull build every - I just think it would be a lot fun.
That's brutal I love it unfortunately my gm limits me to the players handbook so no such insanity for me but those sound like some really powerful builds. I especially like the samurai swashbuckler Pirate combo that sounds amazing. Once again Patrick, informative and fun. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with all of us.
bro get another dm go have fun
@@dzr6007 FR. Multiclassing good times for life.
Limited to the PHB sounds awful lol, so many other fun subclass/race options and I can’t believe you’re stuck with the same shit from 2015. Go get yourself a new DM lol. If someone had told me that I would’ve just dropped out of the campaign
i went rogue fighter multiclass. got to 10th lvl. i went eogue at 1st then i was switching between fighter and rogue. rogue subclass was assassin and fighter was gunslinger. i worked with my dm for approval. i miss that game. had fun
A swashbuckling Samurai sounds amazing
One of my favorite fighter/rogue multiclass builds is assassin rogue mixed with echo knight fighter. The reason being is that this allows you to repeated surprise an opponent during combat for massive critical sneak attacks every round simply by attacking from your echo's location then resummoning the echo next round. Such a build can readily be pulled off by 6th level with 3 levels in rogue and fighter. I'd advise picking up the skulker feat, ritual caster feat, shadow touched, and elven accuracy if you can get it. Ritual caster is especially good since it allows you to get regular advantage with the help action from an unseen servant or familiar.
Started building a new Lvl 3 Inquisitive Rogue for my party's monthly campaign, contemplating taking some levels of Battle Master Fighter to better synergize with my Urban Bounty Hunter background and use some Maneuvers for my reactions for those moments I'm up close with my rapier instead of out of range with my hand crossbow.
My sympathies for being tricked into actually playing inquisitive or mastermind.
@@youtubecensorship842 I've actually been having lots of fun with him so far! I chose the subclass because Inquisitives get advantage to perception/investigation checks later in game. Also Insightful Fighting has been super useful, especially with Mobile for melee combat
I made an Eldritch Arcane Trickster Knight. So many spells.
Could consider a Rogue multiclass for my Gunslinger. Stacking Deadeye Shot for an easy Sneak Attack or using Steady Aim for auto advantage and 2 grit burned for Violent Shot could be interesting.
I'm currently playing a pirate hexblade 5 swashbuckler 5 echo knight 3
Soulknife 13 psi warrior 7 so you can fly go invisible teleport telekinesis telepathy plus to hit, skills, and damage with the ability to push or knock prone not to mention a way to reduce damage to Allies. The you still have 6 feats to do what you want with… but I recommend sharpshooter lucky and tough. go changling so you can change your appearance and live you best Ultimate infiltrator life! ✌️
One important correction to the multiclassing but is that going into Fighter still gives you all martial weapons! They only actually miss out on heavy armor and that’s it!
So honestly going rogue into fighter is the best for Dex builds of all kinds!
The only caveat is if you do any casting builds where con saves are SUPER important for utilizing the eldritch knight and arcane trickster archetypes and their limited spell slots. Though you could easily offset this by going var. Human and taking resilience CON or waiting till either class’ 4th level asi since the magic will be late to turn on anyways. Plus you have to suffice off of racial spells and feats for magic up till levels 3-5 anyways.
Awesome, first good use for the arcane Archer I've heard
Technically the Assassin's class feature that grants you a critical hit, ONLY applies on an enemy that is surprised. Given that surprise rules can be highly DM dependent, and that Initiative is very important when trying to leverage the surprised condition, I doubt players would have as much fun with the Arcane Assassin as with the other builds mentioned.
truth hass been spoken; all party must play your game and as you say Surprised is too much dm dependent.
Love your multiclass vids!
Huzzah!
I like your ronin but when I made something similar I was debating on swashbuckler or phantom and went with phantom because I enjoyed that more. I also used heavy armor, a bow, and went full into sneak. Even with disadvantage I was still rolling a +17 but with boots of elven kind it mitigated that.
Im currently working on a fighter/monk/assassin.3.5 he's already being the best fighter I've ever built
I know it’s been a year since you made this, but I finally saw it, & I instantly thought of 17 lvls phantom rogue & 3 lvls echo knight fighter, get booming blade or green flame blade from a feat & just focus on a shit ton of damage, 9D6 sneak attack dice + 5D6 necrotic + dex mod damage = around 54 damage per attack with another enemy within 30ft of the target taking 17.5 necrotic damage, go any elf with even accuracy & O boy, the crit damage when it hits
Your critique of the Samurai/Swashbuckler was good but you neglected a couple of points regarding using Battle Master instead of Samurai:
1) Many of the Maneuvers available add their Maneuver die to the damage of the attack, including Feinting Attack. So, that's Advantage for the Sneak Attack, plus the weapon damage, plus Dex bonus, plus Sneak Attack dice, PLUS the Maneuver die.
2) Out of the gate, the Battle Master gets 4 Superiority dice per short rest while the Samurai gets Fighting Spirit three times per long rest. The big decision of which to take is based on whether you're going to take more Fighter or Rogue levels since Maneuvers only count for the current attack while Fighting Spirit counts for ALL attacks that turn.
I love your channel. Your martini-dry sense of humor is a nice change from the typical 'I'm so zany!' style of youtuber.
My build is Rogue-Assassin(15)/Fighter-Champion(5) with Elvin Accuracy and Alert. No advantage on me by enemies I can see, reroll of a dice when I have advantage, 2 attacks per turn, and crits with either 19 or 18 roll. One of my party members gives advantage to the other party members when he's in in mele combat with an enemy and seeing that he is usually always doing that and I tend to be farther away, I get advantage often. My party really does a good job of using each others builds to choose our roles to boost the party more than just our individual selves. I am probably the weakest fighter in the party and would die first if we all faugt each other, but we do pretty good I think.
Couple things to point out that might not be clear to people. Psychic Blades and Extra Attack don't mesh well. You can only manifest one Psychic Blade per attack action, so you need another weapon for 2nd attack. Also unless you do things in right order, it could interfere with the bonus action Psychic Blade.
Also, for Assassin, attacks are only critical hits if they are surprise. Not just if you go before enemy. Most tables I've played at, it is not easy to get surprise on the enemies, and in cases where you can, you're usually alone fighting the rest of the creatures for a round or two waiting for party to catch up.
I made a Rogue/Fighter Giff that uses guns. The GM has put us in a Steampunk World based on the 1920's Gangster era. Rogue I started there alternated to level 6 to get the sub-classes. I then went Assassin and CR-Gunslinger. Then went to level 4 Fighter and 10 levels in Rogue the party is level 14. Sharpshooter, Skilled, and then ASI to Dex. from Rogue. Then Gunner feat from Fighter. Was thinking about caping my Fighter levels at 5 for the extra attack a round. But will be continuing Rogue levels from then on.
for Psi-Knife you want a TCL of 16 (Fighter 7/Rogue 9) which means you get 10d8 Psionic Energy Dice for both Subclasses.
What do you do with the other for levels? idk, you can either bump your Psi Warrior dice up to d10, or you can split it to go Rogue 11/Fighter 9.
For a crossbow fighter/rogue, which multiclass combinations would you guys choose??
Phantom+battlemaster
Outstanding video. I have subscribed. I am about to play 3 phantom rogue 3 echo knight then phantom rogue for the rest. The echo will be the same ghost that applies in my phantom rogue part.
Cavalier/Swashbuckler for me. I also play Goblin and ride a Wolf Mount, since you know I gotta.
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I'm playing a Battlemaster 3 / Swashbuckler 3 Changeling knight in a campaign right now that fights in half plate with a shield and rapier and it's been a blast. There are so many options on my turn between manuvers and cunning action. Feinting attack almost always gurantees sneak attack in niche situations where Rakish Audacity doesn't work, and I can punish enemies when they miss against my 19 AC with a sneak attack Riposte. I would also argue it's more effecttive than the Swashbuckler/Samurai combo since superiority die are more plentiful abd come back on a short rest vs fighting spirit on a long rest.
Not to mention I'm the face of the party and damn good at it with 14 charisma, expertise on persuassion and adding an additional d8 with commanding presscense. I can rival and eloquence bard.
I’m about to play this exact build.
Going shadar-kai for some teleportation shenanigans
What about an Echo knight 4th lvl, 2 lvl's of tempest cleric, heading into phantom Rouge 🤨🤔
11 levels of fighter 9 levels of rouge is how I run my build.
I thought auto crit was only if enemy is Surprised which isn’t always and basically up to DM discretion. You really didn’t mention that crucial part.
Question: how does an attack made with advantage using an assassin rogue translate into an auto crit? RAW states in order for a crit here, the creature you're attacking has to be surprised, or have the surprised condition.
This is a good channel. Just found it and I do like the format. The one thing I feel you can refine to attract more subs is to try and work on not “reading the script” as much and try a more natural flow to your talking points. It’ll come across as less lecture(y) and should build a more natural connection with your audience. I don’t mean for this to be rude, or critical…I just like your content and would like to see you grow. Thanks for the build ideas/info, I’ll definitely chew on it before I apply my first level advancement.
Hey I don’t know if this was changed or not but the assassinate feature for the assassin rouge stats that successful attacks auto crit on surprised targets, not targets that haven’t gone in combat. Thought this would be important. Loved the vid regardless
Fighter 5/Rogue 14/Cleric 1 with War Domain
I suggest 3 levels rogue then one level fighter then 2 more rogue then the rest fighter till 5th level then rogue to 7 then fighter for the rest of the game. The one level dip just for shield proficiency
Mastermind Battlemaster is flavorful nice.
If you are making a melee fighting that isn’t a hit and run type, with steady aim you would have advantage every round you are hacking at your opponent.
If your opponent just stands there, yes.
I'm currently working on an 11/9 Rune Knight Fighter, Wild Card Rogue. I know it's far from optimized but it adds a decent bit of role-play opportunity. I'd love to get your thoughts on this and which feats you recommend. I'm currently only a 3rd level fighter.
Is there a way, by feat or something, to use weapons other than rapier, shortsword ect. to sneak attack.
So I have a build question. I have a level 2 rouge, which I plan to take the Assassin archetype as it fits his backstory. However, now that I’ve seen this video, I’d like to multi class as a fighter. My character is a bit more of a melee fighter, though, which clashes with the much more ranged build presented in the video, and I don’t entirely plan on switching to a ranged fighting style. So my question is this: what is the most optimal build for a rouge with the assassin archetype, multiclassing as a fighter, and still keeping that melee fighting style?
Wouldn't you get crit damage for Bursting Arrow on the actual target, just not the "splash" damage?
Looking for some feedback on a Rogue-Fighter character I'm currently playing. I'm 2-2 and trying to decide what road to go down. I'm currently using two-weapon fighting with two handcrossbows (not sure if there is a better path). I'm thinking of going assassin for my next level, but after that not sure, maybe fill out the fighter side... Which path for fighter would compliment the hand crossbow build, or should I consider moving away from those? Appreicate any thoughts.
Check out rogue/Paladin multi class, it’s absolutely bonkers.
Thanks for the advice ! How multiclassing an arcane trickster with a fighter ? Does it worth it ?
I am thinking about a tebaxi swashbuckler rogue/battle master fighter with dual rapiers it’s why I will go fighter first to get two weapon fighting style yes I could rapiers either way but lose the level one ability to attack with a second rapier(which more likely my dm would allow me to take dual wielder feat so long as I take a background without a feat which works cause my background will be pirate) and get my dex mod to damage on second attack
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Is it possible to make a Eldritch Knight/ Arcane trickster build work?
iim thinking of doing a swashbuckler eldritch knight thats similar to alucard from castlevania as a damphr
if hasted does the Fighter get Action, Surge Action and Haste action, Bonus action and reaction on their turn?
Both the haste and surge say you gain an action where as the hasted action is limited to 1 attack or dash/disengage etc.
So for example: A hasted fighter could dash in (ba) attack(na), attack(sa) and disengage(ha).
Lets take the Arcane Assassin and give it a weird twist with CriticalRole Content. 2lvl Artificer/3lvl Inquisive Rogue/15lvl Gunslinger Fighter. You get a better Long Range and better Shots but looses a lot of Sneak Attack. But with all of the different Weapon Types you are more versitile and if you get your Hands on something like the Eyes of Eagle you could get Multiple Rounds of Bombardment even before the Enemy reaches you.
I only recently started researching this game (have not played yet) and I was wondering if this would be a good build. A Harengon fighter rogue who dashes in, attacks, and jumps back out of combat using a two-handed sword. I might also dip into monk to increase the jump speed but don't know if it can be done well yet. This probably won't be a very stealthy build, just using rogue to increase dueling capacity. Perhaps phantom rogue to move through solid walls and such, increase escape ability.
No.
Rouge monk multi class?
Fuck, I broke the Samurai/Swashbuckler build. I made a Harengon, and took it to Rogue 10/Fighter 8 to get those ASIs squeezed in, then added two levels of Twilight Cleric. Vigilant Blessing gives you advantage on Initiative. Hare-Trigger lets you add your PB to Initiative, and Rakish Audacity lets you add your CHA modifier to it, totaling out to +16 to your initiative *and* advantage on it. Where is a 20th level one-shot going on?
can someone explain what he means by the auto crit? It sounds like it just works if you (the rouge) attack before any creature on the field. Example: 3 goblins and you, G1 rolls 18 Init. G2 rolls 17, you roll 15 and G3 a 3, So you attack G3 and get advantage (sneak attack) because it has not had its turn yet while G1 and 2 have AND it crits? so it is no longer based on surprise??
PHB - 97 - Assassinate feature
@@SkullSplitter ya but the crit is based off surprise no?
Went for a arcane trickster battle master build
What are you going to name your PC Brandon?
This may be bit of a stretch, but kinda got me looking and thinking. What you think of possibly an Echo-Mind build? Effectively a multiclass between the Fighter Echo Knight and Rogue Mastermind.
May be up to the DM if they'd allow your Echo to do more than just "move there and attack when I do". Like if your Echo could also give the 30ft Help action from Master of Tactics, or make use of any of your skills and be a semi-risk free scout (especially with Echo Avatar at Fighter 7, 8 for ASI) and trap remover. Could summon them to help you flank enemies though (if DM using Flanking rules), and with Misdirect, keep your Echo near you to be your "shield" as it were. Could also use your Echo as a sort of distraction both in and out of combat
So , My DM likes to promote multiclassing , So , He allows our player character's total level upto 40 , So , You have to multiclass , My DM also considers ASI according to total level rather than class level and gives us our Level 20 features at Level 18 and at Level 20 , We get the epic boon and the ASI that can be more than 20. I am planning on doing a Barbarian/Rouge/Fighter , Any ideas???
Some important things I should probably mention :-
1. You can use sneak attack any number of times you want in a turn
2. Same with reckless attack
3. Rage doesn't require a Bonus action to enter , You can just choose to enter rage
4. Action surge is applied for every single turn , So You get 2 actions starting from level 2 , Every turn , Without even a short or long rest
5. Extra Attack stacks , So , 1 Barbarian extra attack and 1 Fighter extra attack equals 2 extra attacks in total
6. Unarmored defence still works when wearing light armor (He is still thinking about this one though , He might remove it)
Oh Yeah , I am also dumping Charisma , Wisdom and intelligence , They are gonna stay at eight , Even if the build doesn't require dexterity , It is still useful for AC and Initiative
I'm having a tough time deciding what path to take for my rogue! Should I do arcane trickster with the mobile feat and maybe a few levels of fighter? Or double down on the swashbuckler few levels of fighter and magic initiate feat? Too hard to choose! Please help.
What do you think would be more fun?
@@SkullSplitter hmm. . . Both would be fun as heck. I've gotten so wrapped up in how to optimize the character I forgot about that part honestly 😅. Swashbuckler would be the most fun! Now to choose the right feats. . .
@@ryanstough377 I'm going arcane trickster/battlemaster for shenanigans (cantrips: booming blade and minor illusion, 1st level spells are absorb elements, id insinuation and silvery barbs) though looking at echo knight also. I started rogue and will be hitting 5 levels in fighter for extra attack then back to rogue. Battle master maneuvers will probably be trip attack, disarming attack and feint/riposte (haven't fully settled on the last one).
Edit: My character is a female drow called Jax in a homebrew setting with no Llolth; our DM has used the amnesia trick and is revealing our backstories as we go along. It does make roleplaying a bit more awkward because we know next to nothing about our characters or the world they are in.
how arcan trickster subclass what is a good fighter subclass for it?
I’m building a 3.5 rogue/fighter
Yo. I need some serious help. I'm doing a close to homebrew campaign but i haven't played in over a decade. The idea for my character is Blood Hunter/Were-bear. The dm has signed off and is actively looking for a way to make the class above a C+ tier class lol. My character is a Goliath Blood Hunter, lycan order. Goes werebear.. Is a Shipwright and is Chaotic Good. Any tips/tricks on how you might build such a class? Given that the DM is open to suggested on improving it ect. Thanks man! Anything is appreciated.
how about a fighter/gunslinger rogue ??
Ah yes, the Frog
Benefit from rolling with fighter first or rogue first ?
Extra hp, heavy armor, constitution saving throw which matters less on a non caster
@@Almighty_Mage ...But you miss out on 2 expertise points, and 2 extra proficiency's. Depends on if you're going straight combat/survivability, or utility. I much prefer the latter.
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